It's just a side thought. I'll throw it in while we're getting the mics. You'll be first in line.
Speak because it goes right hand in hand with people going through the revolving door of
wanting deliverance. I had a lady in that first... it was in that 18 month period of time. I had a lady
that I cast spirits out. She explained what was happening and this that and the other. We got...
we cast this that and she felt so free and so wonderful and this that and the other.
Came back probably two, three weeks later and went through it again because you know whatever.
And then it was probably a month later. She came back and she said, I am just so struggling.
And I really didn't know what the lady was into or whatever. You know, you don't know everybody.
She's just so struggling and she explained how she was just struggling.
She said, could you pray over me one more time and just let's just cast this out and get rid of it.
And I stepped up to her and as I stepped up to her, the Holy Spirit said, don't you dare.
I'm going. So I stepped back like, what did I do wrong?
I said, give me a second. I can't turn away and Holy Spirit, what, what?
Are we not supposed to deal with this? What's the problem here?
He said, this lady is in witchcraft and she's using you to multiply her demons
because she knows the principle. If you cast it out, it'll come back with seven worse.
And she's using the principle to gain strength in witchcraft.
And I thought, no. No, she comes to church. I mean, it's like, you know, I don't know her
really well, but I know her. I mean, she's a nice lady. So I stepped back up. I said,
I said, I just got a question because and if I'm wrong, don't be offended.
I said, but this is what I feel the Holy Spirit told me,
that you're playing around with witchcraft and you know enough about the word to know
because, because they want to gain, you know, they want to gain energy. They want to gain strength,
power. You know enough that this will create a cycle in you. And you came with one and we
prayed over you. And then that went to seven and we got rid of all seven. Well, all of them
went and grabbed another seven. So now we're at 49. And you're wanting me to pray one more time
and get rid of the 49 and multiply that time seven. So now we're in the 300s.
I said, are you doing this? You know, I'm young. I'm dumb. I'm just asking a witch to admit it.
And it was interesting. She was crying. I need, I need help. And I said that to her. She opened
her eyes and looked at me and set her jaw. You blankety, blank, blank, blank. I said,
I ain't praying for you. I'm done with this game. You know what you're doing and you're
using me. Using me to excel in the kingdom of darkness. You, you know, that's not what this
is supposed to be about. But the revolving door thing, I got that. It's just amazing the stuff
that happens if you listen to the Holy Spirit. I would have prayed for her months on end and
just loaded her up. But the Holy Spirit stopped me. So it's, it's the revolving door. It goes
along with the revolving door thing. You had to, okay, you're on. I just was curious when
you were talking about anger when we first started. Don't you think that that could
very well be the door opener that then others can come in through that anger? I do believe
that is a huge door opener. Because stopping, you know, the reason I say that is this.
And we've done a long study on it. We have a series on resolving anger. Mary teaches
resolving anger at TBO on an ongoing basis. There's, there's, you don't have to have the
answer to everything to resolve your anger. If you will confess your sin and say, show me,
it's as good as done for God, because it's forgiven. And now the Holy Spirit's been given
permission to grow you and show you and change you and develop you. And you can
deal with the person a different time. And I mean, you just have to make that first step.
But this is why I think they're tied together in Ephesians 4. Anybody who,
how do you say it? Anybody who struggles with anything in life, whether it be their job,
whether it be their bank account, or their children aren't listening, or the car broke down,
or the husband didn't call when he said he was supposed to call. And now the evening's gone,
because we were supposed to do something. Everybody's angry. Everybody's angry about something.
And it becomes, it becomes the basis for a lot of behavior.
We get angry with a friend. It becomes the basis for gossip to a different friend.
We become angry with a husband. I read this not long ago. One of the leading reasons for
unfaithfulness is anger in relationships. The wife got angry with the husband.
They couldn't resolve it, so she just went out and had an affair.
Well, if you stop and think about it, almost every form of sin has its toes dangled in anger.
They're angry about something. My parents said this to me 53 years ago. How dare they?
You've been angry for 53 years? You know how many demonic problems you've got?
According to Ephesians 4.27, you're pretty full.
Oh, you can't say that, though, because they're going to be offended.
But I'm with you, because I've tried to go, okay, I'm out hunting. I did something wrong
and the game warden caught me.
I will be angry over that, even if I was wrong.
The average guy can be angry over that for years, which opens him up.
He's got a huge dark blotch that all kinds of stuff is moving in to live,
because he's not dealing with his anger. I'm with you. I think if it's not
the foundation stone, it's one big one that goes into all kinds of directions.
Um, the average person that I know, we struggle with anger.
We're all angry about something, and we've never resolved it within the 24-hour thing.
Well, we became a landing pad.
And anything could get in. It didn't say an anger demon only could
mess with you. You just opened yourself up. You became a landing pad. Anything could get in.
And of course, we haven't talked about familiar spirits yet, but familiar spirits,
we've got, now, we pray that none of them can come in church.
We pray, Mary and I specifically pray, our familiar spirits, your familiar spirits,
your demons, they're all sitting out by your cars waiting for you.
We don't want them in here.
We want the peace of God in here, God's angels, our guardian angels. We want all that stuff in here,
but all the demons can wait outside till we come back out.
Now, even if you don't have demonic problems, you have a familiar spirit, at least one.
Their whole job is to do what a guardian angel does for you in the reverse.
They will watch you, they will study you, they will find your weaknesses, because they know you,
they've probably been in the family line. Familiar spirits are usually genealogical,
or sins of the ancestors' spirits. They've been in the family line, they know the
weaknesses of the family line, they know your weaknesses, and they work with the
kingdom of darkness to conquer you. They're familiar with you. That's why they call them
familiar spirits. Yeah, I won't go into that story, the different time.
We all have angels assigned to us, but we also all have demons assigned to us.
Angels are here to protect us, guard us, help us. Demons are here to destroy us.
They're all waiting outside. And even if you take a solid stand against them,
they're going to watch you from afar and wait for an opening. So we just can't give them one.
And if we do, confess your sins. He's faithful and just to forgive and cleanse you from all that
unrighteousness, uncleanness. You know, it's kind of a sobering thought, but
it's the way it is. So I don't know how we got on that, but it came off of anger and the foundation.
Can we have the mic back up here? Okay, can you repeat that so it gets on the recording?
There are so many people, hardly, really, honestly, very small percentage that understand that.
Because we don't like to think about that.
No, they don't. Even as Christians. No, they don't. And they can always find a place where they don't
have to ever hear about that kind of thing. But the problem is that there's spiraling.
Or they're just plain not developing into anything spiritually.
But when you say something about a familiar spirit, no concept.
So you must have concept because you were in agreement with me.
So you've had experience, heard the teaching on it before?
Cool. I'd like to hear your story. Okay, now we can go back there and get
next question. And we will talk about all these things, but
just throw them in here and there and that way you won't forget.
This goes right along with the anger. And it's just, I'm telling on myself,
but it's exactly what happened here this weekend with something.
I had to deal with on the telephone something and I felt like I'm always too
nicey-nice on the phone. Maybe if I get angry here and so I tried it.
But it took me a while to realize, well actually I felt it right away,
but as it kept going I had to repent and tell God I was sorry because I realized
letting the anger in and pretty it was has stirred me up inside so bad.
And then I was anxious and anxiety and all kinds of crappy emotions that was
happening and it all happened just because I let myself or made myself be angry.
Yeah, anger was the door. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm in agreement. I think it's huge in our culture. It's huge in the world.
Go ahead. But it's a door. Anger in itself is not sin.
God gets angry. God never sins.
But we have to learn to deal with anger correctly and we have to learn to resolve it.
Now see, when I was growing up, I heard messages on this that anger is sin.
I don't know where the adults were at that point. They should have,
somebody should have called the guy on the, you know, after the service is over.
Come here. If anger is sin, God is a sinner because God gets angry.
Anger is not sin. Handling it incorrectly and not resolving it quickly are sin.
They lead us into problems. But anger is actually a protective agent.
Sometimes we get angry about things that somebody needs to do something.
And it's our anger that motivates us to do it. Anger is not a bad thing.
But if it's handled wrong, it becomes bad. Go ahead, Molly.
When you were talking about seeing in the spirit, or you didn't mention seeing in the spirit,
you talked about our earth suit. And you said if we didn't have one on,
everyone would be able to see. We'd be spirits. Yes. Okay. So what about
seers? People who can see in the spirit. But like, okay, I was also told, I don't,
I don't necessarily think that it's true, but I, but I respect the person who told me.
And they said, you see what is in you. So if say a child is seeing angels,
but also seeing demons, is that in her or him?
I have no idea where they're basing it on. This is what I was told because
some of the early experience I had was people were seeing into the spirit realm.
And we were trying to cast demons out. We were trying to get them free.
But the amount of fear and everything that would well up because
demons are hideous looking creatures. I mean, they are just plain nasty.
And they would see them coming at them. They'd see them grabbing them. They'd see
things. So it just, it was tormenting. So that we were trying to shut that off and it wasn't working.
So the guy who helped teach me, I flat out asked him. I said, I don't know what to do with
this. We're casting everything out. We can think of them. They're just seeing in the spirit
realm and they're not seeing God side. They're seeing demonic side most of the time.
And he said, well, he said, let's go back to scripture. He was big on scripture.
It's like, it's got to be in the word or we're not going there.
And thank God he linked me up with somebody like that.
He said, go back to scripture. He says, Christians can see in the spirit realm.
How does that work? I don't know. Never thought about it.
Well, let me tell you, this is how that works. It's done by the Holy Spirit
and it probably falls under the gift of discerning of spirits.
And the Holy Spirit opens their eyes and lets them see what's going on.
He says, we are, this is what he said. He said, we're a human being who have lost, if we ever
did have humans ever did have the ability. He said, we've lost the ability to see in
the spirit realm. For the average human to see into the spirit realm is not normal.
It's not, it's not what we can do. He said, so we have to have supernatural help to do it.
God uses his Holy Spirit to give us the ability to see visions,
to see beings, to see the glory, to all kinds of things.
He says, it's done by a spirit. He said, on God's side, it's done by the Holy Spirit.
He said, if you've got somebody who is struggling with demonic stuff and they're seeing in the
spirit realm, there is a spirit in them that's giving them the ability to do that.
Until you get that spirit out, they will see in the spirit realm and it'll always be to
torment them and cause fear and all kinds of stuff.
Well, they've been either false teaching or the question was, what if they're not afraid?
They've either been taught something incorrectly or whatever, but they've accepted it as real.
For instance, the guy who taught me, he grew up in in Satan worship.
He said it was in our house all the time. He said at supper time, he said we had spirits
manifesting all the time from the time I can remember as a little boy.
My parents were in Satan worship. He said we'd be sitting and eating at supper and he said
the trumpet, they had a trumpet, nobody could play trumpet, but it was one of the
instruments used that a spirit would speak through. The trumpet would come floating through the air to
the table, so we'd all go quiet and then there'd be a muffled voice coming through the trumpet,
but we could understand what it was saying and a message would be given to us and then
the trumpet would go back and lay in the case where it was playing. He said that was normal.
He said that's just how we lived. He said I was never afraid of demons.
He said a lot of things never made sense because they're so unpredictable. They're not
like God, the same yesterday, today, and forever very predictable. They're all over the charts.
He said nothing made sense a lot of times. He said but I had no fear of them. I grew up with them.
They were around all the time. They were doing stuff all the time. You'd see them walking
through the house. You'd see them floating through the house. The pen would be writing on
a piece of paper all by itself and the message would be coming. This was just how we lived.
So not having fear is not the measurement.
What spirit is making this happen? Is this God's spirit or is this a different spirit?
Because to have supernatural, going back to the original question, to be able to see in
the spirit realm has to be enabled by a spirit beyond our spirit. Because our spirit,
we don't have that ability anymore. That's been taken away. For humans to do it,
they always credit a different spirit. Well, that's right. It is a different spirit.
So when you're doing deliverance with people, penning upon how
serious they're demonized, if you're over here in the 7, 8, 9, 10 category,
most of them see in the spirit realm readily. And that's because they still have stuff in them
that has to be gotten out. And as it leaves, their vision grows dim. They can't see much
anymore and so forth. But if they're seeing things, it's because there's a spirit in them
giving them ability to do it. And if it's freaking them out or it's keeping them in
bondage or they're losing sleep over it, it's likely not the Holy Spirit. You go back to
the character of the Holy Spirit, the fruit of the Holy Spirit. What is God's character like?
You lay that over what's happening with this person. And when it's not God, they don't
match. So then it's a different spirit. But for people to see in the spirit realm,
it has to be spirit enabled. Some spirit is doing it.
Pastor, this is the first night I've been able to attend. So I've watched other
YouTubes, but that means I don't have the questions that answers. I barely made it
if it wasn't for my family picking me up. But so I don't have the other answers or the
questions and the answers that might have been given already. So apologize for that in
advance. The other statement I have to make before the question is, I've always believed
by believe more and more that nine-tenths of existence is in the spiritual realm and
probably one-tenth is here in the physical side or some equation like that along those lines.
And you've touched on, I think, the answer to the question tonight. Several different times.
I want to ask it directly. What level of observation are we under? Is there any
private time even with God? So any, I mean guard your hearts and your minds, right? But so
any thought, any whim, even any prayer, any praise, any sorrow was always exposed to
the entirety of the spirit world at all times, even for Christians. Oh, you just opened a big
can. So let's talk about it. And all this stuff was going to show up eventually that I was going to
teach first before we went to this. But let's go with it. You've heard me say,
somebody is always watching. You've heard me say that. Somebody's always
watching as well. I'm totally alone. I'm in the woods ear hunting. There's nobody around. You're
being watched. Somebody is always watching. You've got the angelic side. If your guardian angel
is there with you, you think they might be paying attention to you. They're watching you. They
have to. They're trying to take care of you. And you're about to do something dumb. And
they're going to, like for instance, I'll give you an example. This could have been
guardian angel. This could have been the Holy Spirit. I think it was the Holy Spirit
could have been a guardian angel. I'm laying underneath the lawnmower
and I'm changing the blade. You know, sharpened it. So I had it off and I sharpened it and
I'm putting it back on. And my mind is elsewhere. Nobody does this with me, I'm sure. But I'm
thinking about different stuff and I'm trying to solve problems over here while I'm putting
the blade on the lawnmower. And I've got the wrench and I'm starting to tighten it.
And just a very loud voice ran, internal voice ran through me and said,
stop and look at what you're doing. It's like, okay. So I had grabbed the blade to hold it
because it wants to turn when you're tightening in it. I'd grabbed the blade to hold it
and I was pulling with the wrench and the sharpened side, I was pulling towards the
sharpened side. So if the wrench would have slipped, you know, it's just, I wasn't paying
attention. I was thinking about other stuff. It's like, it doesn't take a genius to put a
blade on a lawnmower. I can think about other stuff. And something said, stop and look at
what you're doing. Now that could have been the Holy Spirit. And it could have been the
Holy Spirit saying, speak up. They need to hear you. Maybe they on their own had their own
ability. We know that angels can speak to us and we can hear them. That's throughout scripture.
But we're always being watched, always being watched.
So now let's answer some of the questions. The only one who, from my understanding of what
the word says, the only one who knows our thoughts is God. He knows our thoughts because
he's God. Scripture says no thought is hidden from him. Okay? However, if, because people will say,
well, the devil can know my thoughts and I can't, except for one thing. There's one way he
can. Well, the demons know what I'm thinking. Well, they don't, except for one thing. Where do we
think our thoughts? Right up here in the brain. If they're living in us and they have enough
access to our body that they can access our brain, like the guy who, when my mom said,
when he gets angry, look in his eyes. Well, that spirit had direct access to that man's brain,
probably had access to his mouth too because he was saying things that Christian shouldn't say.
I had someone just tell me this week and I said, are you serious? They said, absolutely,
they said. I was in, I think, Walmart and someone from the church had some children with them
and I was in the other aisle and the children were acting out and they were cussing them out
with cuss words. And I was curious, who in the world would be cussing their kid up like that?
So I came around to see who this was. They recognized me and said, hi, how are you doing?
It's good to see you. Not because they come to church too. I said, they come to this church
and they're using cuss words to cuss out their children in Walmart?
Yep. I said, I don't even want to know who it is. Don't even want to know because I'm already
disappointed. What? Really? We haven't grown enough yet to stop cussing? Really?
Anyway, back to the story.
All the thoughts go through the brain. That's our interface, our spirit, its brain.
If a demon has enough access to you that it has the ability to access your brain,
it can now read your thoughts because it knows what you're thinking. It's in there with you.
It just sits there and listens to what rattles through your brain, knows your thoughts.
If they don't have that kind of access, because there's a lot of spirits that live in people
that they don't have the ability to run them, like the little boy in the Bible that
was thrown on the fire because the spirit was trying to kill them. And Jesus said,
bring them here to me to the disciples, couldn't get them out. He said,
bring them to me and you cast them out. Not all spirits are, I mean most spirits don't have
that kind of access to the brain. But if a spirit has access to the brain,
it can read our thoughts. Other than that, they just study us and they watch us.
And they're probably way better at studying people than we are because they've been
doing it for thousands of years. But you know what, if you hang around with a person 24-7
for one year, you probably have a really good picture of what that person's like.
Just by how they act out. Besides the thought.
The thought, if they don't have access to it, might not be the access point,
but it would be the remnant of the unresolved sin from a thought sin that might give the
access. Because it's not the thought itself, you can take care of that. But if there's an unresolved
remnant, they're not reading the thought, but they're moving in in the black spot.
They're moving in in the black spot and the black spot, they know why the black spot's there.
Because it's of their kingdom. It feels familiar to them. So if I'm a Christian who lies,
for instance, and God's working on me to stop lying, and I'm just like,
I'll just lie whenever I need to lie because it's nice. It works for me. It's a good tool.
That has produced a big black spot in me someplace. And lying feels familiar to them.
So when they move into that spiritual zone, they'll know what it is.
It's lying. It's stealing. It's whatever. They'll know what it is.
So now they already know you've got a problem because they can feel what they just moved
into. So now all they have to do is watch you, and they'll catch you lying.
So their job is to enhance that, to work with you on that.
Put thoughts in your head to help you get bigger and better at it,
which will ultimately be bad for us. But that's my understanding. And I don't have
all the answers, but that's my understanding. They can't read our minds unless they're in it.
And the only one who can really read our thoughts is God. Scripture says that.
That's my understanding of it. But the main question, are we ever alone? We're never alone.
We are, we are never alone. We are always being watched by at least two
angels. God's angel and our familiar, the spirit that's been assigned to us to trip us up, at least
two, depending upon, well, I got a lot of guardian angels. I've heard people say that and they might
have. That's okay. You might have a lot of familiar spirits too. You know, because all
the devil does is pervert what God does. He twists it. It's a perversion. So if God says,
I'm going to send angels to help you, the devil says, that's a good idea. I'm going to
send demons to hurt you. So, very good question. Big can of worms. Go ahead, Walt.
Okay. Is this working? Yeah.
It is.
Okay. One quick comment on the thoughts thing. I've gone back and forth with people over the
years who say, oh, I can't read your mind. And I know they interact with my thoughts
because I can pray in my mind and I will have a bodily reaction to the prayer.
They don't like it. It's a thought.
Really? Yes, really. So just a comment.
So you just to stop you right there. So you at some point have become aware of
there was something living in your flesh that wasn't supposed to be there.
Yes. Okay.
And it could be, it interacted with...
If I was close to you, I would say high five. You know how few Christians
are sensitive enough to themselves to know that.
Thank you.
That is further down the road than most.
Well, and one of the things I've been a little upset about lately is there's a prominent broadcast
of some prophetic stuff. And one of the people they feature has these reactions.
And the broadcast host is like, well, that's the Holy Spirit. I'm like, no, it's not.
It's the ones inside that haven't gone yet that are reacting to the prophecy that's coming out of
them. They're trying to shut them up. And it's, it really bothers me that the host has misinterpreted
that. But anyway, so my question is this. Now that you once you came to realize that
people need to hold their ground and you could be literally, you know, praying with people to
cast out demons, who knows how many times, how do you now decide who to pray with and who not to?
Is that just Holy Spirit saying, yes, this one, nope, this one's not ready? How do you handle
that as a minister? You know what? That's become more difficult for me now than it ever has.
And I'm going to tell you why.
We're dealing with mental health issues on a scale in our society now that is through
the roof compared to anything I've ever seen.
If the mental health issue is caused by a demon, like the guy who had Legion,
when you cast the demons out, the mental health goes away. He was sitting there with Jesus
in his right mind, it says. Before it was cast out, he obviously was not in his right mind.
However,
if a person has genuine mental health issues and you cast a demon out,
and it's not, their mental health is not tied to the demon, they have mental health issues.
When you cast the demon out, unless you really know it's God, you really shouldn't have cast
it out is the conclusion I'm coming to. Because they don't have the mental wherewithal to hold the
ground. And you just set them up to get worse. And it usually takes one to three months, for I
don't know why. That's a cycle. It's like a one to three month window. Most people who get
delivered say within two weeks it'll be back the first time to see if it can get back in.
Have you ever seen somebody with those mental health issues
that you felt needed a demon cast out? Yes, absolutely. Somehow in conjunction with healing
or something that you were able to get the full deliverance so to speak of both. Let me say it
this way, my opinion again, I don't know everything, this is just my observation. Anybody
who has mental health issues has demons because they're not mentally equipped to hold their
ground. So they're automatically going to have other entities helping them run their body or
live their life or whatever. That does not mean they're bad people because there's people who
are mentally healthy who have demons. I mean, so it's not like, oh, they're so horrible they
got demons. No, they're demons sitting here in people. Your familiars are waiting out there,
but there's demons sitting in people right here. I mean, I'm not so naive to say everybody sitting
here is clean. No, come now. Let's not get childish. The problem with the mental health issue,
and this is hard and you have to hear the spirit, if you cast it out and they can't hold
their ground, they're going to be worse off for it. And like I said, it's like a one to three
month return cycle. And all of a sudden they were doing good, they were doing good,
and then two months into it, 12 weeks, whatever it's like, they started losing it.
Because they couldn't hold their ground and the spirits came back. You say, well, they have
mental health issues. Well, yeah, but they got spirit problems too. And the spirit problems
are helping with the mental health issues. It is hard now. Like for instance, back when
this thing really got introduced to me in the early 80s, that's 40 years ago.
We did not have people taking the mental health drugs we have now. It was a rare person
that they'd be on something for depression or they'd be on something for whatever makes
no difference. It was rare. So if something manifested, chances were really good. It was
a demon. Now you've got people who are on different medications, different drugs,
they can get off. Like for instance, we had this was back
2015. Let me say 2015, 2014, 15. We had a lady, she was sitting here in the front row
and she started acting a little weird. And I thought, what is that? And she got up,
walked out about where Molly was, fell, hit the floor and started shaking and
almost like writhing with her body. And so then a few people helped her get out there.
And my oldest son was still with us at that point in every service. He was still
a praise leader. And he kind of looked at me and go out there with her.
So they got her out there. He said by the time I got out there, he said there was three or four
people trying to cast the demon out of her. And he said they barely got her into the four
year and they're already taking authority over and casting it out. And he said I
walked up there and I looked in her eyes and I said, this isn't a demon, this is a drug.
And he's really good at seeing that. Like Mary's really good. He's got the same
ability. I'm not that great. I didn't grow up with drugs.
I mean, you can be stone, stone to stone, stone. And I probably won't notice.
It's like, well, they're really happy today. Must be the joy of the lard, you know, kind of thing.
And Mary will go, they're hired in kite. It's like, no, they're not. Yeah, they are.
It's like, go up close and smell them. You'll smell pot all over them. And she's always
right, you know. But anyway, they got her out and he finally said back away.
Let's just look at this. And then she started calming down. And of course,
they thought the demons were leaving or she came back to consciousness enough.
He asked her, he said, did you take any drugs? Didn't want to admit it.
Finally, yeah, what'd you take? Or she told him, how much did you take?
Well, she hit overdose on, and I'm not going to say the drug.
This is a Christian lady. She's been Christian since I met this lady and I met this lady in
2005 or six. And if I'd name her, most of you would know who she is. She comes to church.
And she's hooked on drugs. And she took a little bit too much and had a reaction.
It wasn't a demon. It was drug related.
So to answer your question, Walt, it's getting really hard. Because if you just look at the
physical, you'd swear that woman had a demon. She was getting weird sitting up here and I
was questioning it. Is there something starting to manifest? Well, then when she went and
fell over and started writhing and shaking and quaking, it's like cast it out.
Never was a demon. She was having a reaction to drugs. So they got her off to the hospital
and they gave her some counter medicine for it and blah, blah, blah.
See, unless I was really hidden from what was going on when I was growing up,
there was nobody going to church who was hooked on drugs.
They might have taken aspirin because we didn't even have Tylenol back then.
They might have taken aspirin for a headache or maybe they had some nitroglycerin and,
you know, for heart or things like that. But I'm talking like opiates and that kind
of stuff. There's nobody hooked on that kind of stuff. So you didn't get that mixed message.
People with mental illness or are manifesting drug issues look just like demons
manifesting. It is sorcery. Drugs fall in under sorcery. It comes under pharmacia. Yeah.
And in Revelation where it talks about sorcery and anybody who messes with sorcery is not going
to get into heaven. If you look under that, it's pharmacia. Where we get our word pharmacist,
it's drugs. But it's become very prevalent. It's become very confusing. We have a lot of people
who are struggling mentally for various reasons. I think a lot of it could be
environmentally involved. There's all kinds of theories I have. Why do we have so much of the
population struggling with mental issues? I don't know. But the problem is it gets really
murky if something goes wrong and they start acting out because it's off balance.
You know, the lithium gets off. And people when they're lithium are off, you're convinced
a demon is talking through. I mean, it's just so weird. And it's like, no, actually,
they're lithium is off because they've got an imbalance. And it's hard. It's hard. I don't like
it anymore. I don't like it anymore. And I will vie on. I won't cast something out unless I know
this person can hold it. Because if they're mentally struggling and I cast something out,
I just did them in a disservice. Have you had that happen where you've had someone
where the Holy Spirit says, Nope, not now. But later on, they matured and he said no.
Yeah. Okay. And or they got their medicines leveled. I will always revisit it if I think it's
medicine involved, medically involved. I'll say, you go to a doctor and get level,
then come back and we'll look at the demon issue. Right now, I ain't touching it.
Because even if it is a demon issue, and I know they have a mental issue,
they're on something to stabilize them for whatever.
I don't know. They've got the maturity to hold it. So it's really messy. I don't like it. It's
really messy. And that's where we as Christians have to become wiser, myself included. Because
we can look like wild-eyed maniacs. As soon as something is looking strange, we're casting
demons. And the medical realm looks at us and says, you people are weird. They're having a reaction
or whatever. And that's on us. Because we're just plain not getting the training we should get.
I'm trying to learn this. I'm trying. It's not coming easily for me.
Mary pointed somebody out just last Sunday. She said, you see something?
She said, did? Greeted him. Talked to him. She said, were they on something? She asked me,
were they on something? How would I know? She said, didn't you see their countenance in
their eyes? I said, well, I looked at them, but I wasn't really paying attention, evidently.
She said, their eyes were so glassed over and their countenance was so gray.
And I didn't see it. Because I'm a farm boy who was raising the church and I've never done drugs
in my life. Why would I know what somebody on drugs looks like? You know, cows didn't do it,
so I had no exposure. I was thinking when you were saying talking about somebody is always watching
you. We are a city on a hill. And when we're just doing our job, whatever we're doing,
living our life, somebody is watching us. Absolutely. If you go out into the night sky,
if it's clear tonight, and you look up, you'll see lots of little stars, little lights,
and your eyes are automatically attracted to those lights. So we are being watched.
And then the second thing is, you've touched on it several times in a roundabout way tonight,
in Hebrews 514, it says solid food is for the mature who because of training have had their
senses who because of discipline have had their senses trained to discern good from evil.
I think it's referring to our five senses and we've seen examples of that tonight or heard
you speak of examples of people seeing demons, hearing them, feeling them, tasting them, smelling them.
Yeah. Can you feel them in your house? I mean, have you, are you sensitive enough to your house
to where you know when something shifts in your house? And you can feel it. You can feel where
it's at. You can... This is stuff that God wants us to be able to do. We should be able
to recognize a different spirit. But we're not taught about it. So therefore, we never do it.
We never practice it. We never, you know,
so hopefully we will gain some ground on that, at least us three, whatever we're working on.
I want to leave you with a scripture about we're never alone. Leave you with a scripture
and we're done. Ephesians 3.10. At some point I may develop on this,
but I won't develop on it tonight. I will leave you with a scripture though that verifies we're
always being watched. I'm going to read it out of the Amplified. It's a little more wordy, but
you'll see it. If you go back in Ephesians 3, he's talking about enlightening men and making
it plain to them regarding the Gospel and the mystery, verse 9, the mystery that was hidden
through the ages and was concealed until now has been made known to us, the revelation,
Paulian Revelation, so forth. Verse 10. The purpose is that through the church,
the complicated, many-sided wisdom of God in all its infinite and all its infinite variety
and innumerable aspects. See now, remember a little while back we said that God is infinite?
Well, right there it said it. His wisdom, the many-sided wisdom of God, infinite variety and
innumerable aspects. It cannot be finite. It has to be continually growing. Well, look
at it this way. You ever think about this? Every time a human being is born, God has somebody
new to love, so his love capability has to expand to include them. Every time somebody
new is born, God has to have a plan laid out for their life. So, he had to enlarge his,
his, how would you say, his pre-planning capability to include a new soul on the
earth that he's going to bring salvation to. He had to enlarge till they were conceived.
He didn't need to. But once conception came, he had to have something in place for them.
So, God is infinite. He's continually growing, growing, growing.
So, the many-sided off-track and many-sided wisdom of God might now be made known
to listen to this, to the angelic rulers and authorities, principalities and powers
in the heavenly sphere. This is in accordance with the terms of the internal and timeless
purpose which was realized and carried into effect by Jesus. Let me read it to you out of
the New King James. The intent was that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known
by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places.
According to the eternal purpose which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord,
which I won't go into that because that's a whole big can. We're going to open when we go into that.
The church, that's us, is being watched by the principalities and the powers
in heavenly places so that they can see God's wisdom.
Now, if that doesn't make you go, oh, dear Jesus, because how many of us live our life in such a way
that all the spirit realm, good or evil around us, can watch us and say, I see God in her.
Do you see the wisdom of God flowing out of her or him? I see God.
That's what God is trying. One of the things God is trying to accomplish through the church
is show the spirit realm his wisdom. We're always being watched. I just hope we're really not dropping
the ball too badly like the Christians who are cussing out their children in Walmart.
The spirit realm is watching that. And I bet they didn't look at that and go,
there is the wisdom of God. It's actually quite serious.
So, you want to say something? Can we have her on mic so everybody can hear?
There's one right there. It's not turned on, evidently. Try another one.
When the red light is on, you're good. When it says that all creation
groans waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God. They're watching.
Romans 8. Yep. All creation groans waiting for the sons of God to be manifest.
That's now. That's now. We're being watched.
And I'll just give you a hint. God's redemption plan is bigger than the human being.
I'll show you that from the word at some point. I won't do it tonight. But God's redemption plan
is bigger than the human being. And he wants us to witness to many creatures, beings,
as they watch us and how we live and how we operate, they can look in and say,
that's the wisdom of God. And that our life takes them back to the Father.
That's a big responsibility. So a few weeks ago you had talked about regional demons or,
you know, over a city, over a nation. I go into a lot of people's homes for work. And I
God's opened my eyes quite a bit recently on being able to see different stuff like that
between angels and demons and whatnot. And I see a lot of demons, imps in people's houses,
non-christian homes. I'm wondering, do I have much of any authority over them?
No. They don't really do anything. They just hand it and distract.
Which is sad. But it's not, that home is not under your authority. Now you've got authority
over whatever you're in there for, you know, if you're mounting something to the wall or
whatever. But the rest of the home, it's their property. It's their home. It's their realm.
They have the authority. So I'm going to throw a challenge out to you. Every house you go in,
try to find what the strong man is. What is the strong man in this house? What sticks out
as being the strongest demonic stronghold here? And practice that. It'll be eye-opening.