WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.960 Here's my question for you. And I'm going to go back up to the place where it was described. 00:12.100 --> 00:16.660 And can you give me that screen back? I want that one to come up. 00:19.100 --> 00:22.060 Sicknesses, accidents, and death come from Satan, not God. 00:23.200 --> 00:27.080 I want to ask you a question. And then I want us to rattle this around a bit. 00:29.690 --> 00:37.890 Are we saying all accidents somehow are coming from the wrong flow? 00:39.110 --> 00:47.190 Or are we saying it's not necessarily demonic? 00:49.510 --> 00:53.710 I mean, bad stuff just happens. We're on an earth where stuff just happens. 00:54.690 --> 00:59.970 Or are we saying some accidents are for God's glory? 01:02.150 --> 01:06.810 You break your neck, you're paralyzed from the neck down for the rest of your life. That was for God's glory. 01:07.310 --> 01:10.310 Are we saying that? What are we saying? 01:12.190 --> 01:14.750 And why are we saying it? 01:15.770 --> 01:19.910 So I'm going to give you why this is important before we discuss it. 01:22.070 --> 01:26.630 The stance we take on this is the fruit we're going to eat in our life. 01:31.330 --> 01:33.070 What I mean by that is this. 01:34.390 --> 01:46.530 If we believe accidents are of the demonic, we will set our faith to have as few of them as possible. 01:49.660 --> 01:55.400 If we believe accidents are neutral, we won't set our faith for anything because stuff happens. 01:55.680 --> 01:59.580 I mean, it's not like we pray against it or pray for it. It's just like, I don't know, stuff happens. 02:00.540 --> 02:06.060 If we believe that God actually uses accidents to glorify himself. 02:07.740 --> 02:13.280 You know, the guy was working at the shop and he wasn't watching what he was doing and he cut his arm off. 02:14.700 --> 02:16.700 Well, God's going to be glorified through that. 02:16.980 --> 02:20.520 If we believe that, then that's what we're going to fade for. 02:24.200 --> 02:28.920 It's going to, depending upon the stance we take, we're going to go for that. 02:29.180 --> 02:35.000 Now the question is, what is a scriptural stance on accidents? 02:35.260 --> 02:40.040 We'll just hold it to accidents. We'll stay away from sickness and other stuff. 02:40.160 --> 02:41.320 Just hold it just to accidents. 02:42.520 --> 02:44.960 For instance, let's use me. 02:46.360 --> 02:50.980 This summer, on a trip with the grandchildren, we got rear-ended. 02:52.460 --> 02:57.360 As a result, cost us $25,000 for a different vehicle. 02:58.100 --> 02:58.980 Had a vehicle. 03:00.020 --> 03:04.160 Eventually, we would have had to change it, but cost us $25,000 for a different vehicle. 03:05.100 --> 03:11.000 My wife got whiplash, caused all kinds of problems there that we're believing for healing 03:11.000 --> 03:13.400 and for total restoration, still not there. 03:15.080 --> 03:15.600 Blessing? 03:18.450 --> 03:19.610 Well, it's a neutral thing. 03:19.790 --> 03:22.750 I mean, sometimes teenagers drive and they're not paying attention 03:22.750 --> 03:24.610 and they're watching their phone and they run into things. 03:24.890 --> 03:25.610 I mean, stuff happens. 03:27.870 --> 03:28.390 Or... 03:28.390 --> 03:32.590 No, that is under the flow of death and destruction. 03:33.170 --> 03:34.490 Should have never happened. 03:38.060 --> 03:38.580 2012. 03:41.740 --> 03:42.700 Resurrection Sunday. 03:43.540 --> 03:46.360 We're going to start working on this building in about a month. 03:47.480 --> 03:49.480 We're playing football outside. 03:50.140 --> 03:54.500 And I trip over a marker on the side of the road for snow. 03:55.580 --> 03:58.440 Land on the cement, break my arm. 04:01.040 --> 04:02.060 Which one is it? 04:04.320 --> 04:07.000 Is Robert Young right? 04:08.940 --> 04:11.520 Because he's dividing blessings and curses here. 04:11.520 --> 04:14.880 That's where God permits curses, but he doesn't cause them. 04:15.400 --> 04:16.480 That's in that flow. 04:16.740 --> 04:18.940 Is Robert Young right on that? 04:19.580 --> 04:22.160 Every accident does not come from God. 04:22.340 --> 04:23.880 Somehow the demonic was involved. 04:24.900 --> 04:25.900 See, writer, is he wrong? 04:26.020 --> 04:27.540 And then if you're going to give your opinion, 04:27.720 --> 04:30.400 you've got to be willing to defend it. 04:32.580 --> 04:34.880 We got one jumping in right out of the gates. 04:36.220 --> 04:39.160 Well, it says in the Bible, I don't remember exactly where, 04:39.160 --> 04:42.220 but you will not even slip your foot on a rock, right? 04:42.420 --> 04:42.540 Yep. 04:42.920 --> 04:44.500 Okay, so I... 04:44.500 --> 04:44.880 Psalms 91. 04:45.200 --> 04:47.280 Yep, I think it could be a demonic attack. 04:47.720 --> 04:48.120 Yep. 04:48.300 --> 04:50.480 And to see, you know, and if he's going to use it to glorify, 04:50.640 --> 04:52.500 you know, like, did you witness to any... 04:52.500 --> 04:53.940 I know you witnessed to the accident. 04:54.340 --> 04:55.720 I know you witnessed to that kid. 04:57.320 --> 04:59.980 Well, that's bringing goods out of something bad. 05:00.140 --> 05:01.980 Yeah, so, yeah, but I'm... 05:01.980 --> 05:04.380 I'm just like, I will never hit a deer. 05:04.620 --> 05:05.660 I'm standing on that. 05:06.040 --> 05:08.700 And I used to drive this girl to work every morning 05:08.700 --> 05:09.700 at six o'clock in the morning. 05:09.880 --> 05:12.220 It's dark out and she would freak out because there'd be a deer 05:12.220 --> 05:13.240 and I wouldn't even slow down 05:13.240 --> 05:15.380 because I will not hit a deer. 05:15.760 --> 05:18.020 And I'm standing on that and she started to believe me 05:18.020 --> 05:19.580 after all the 20th time. 05:20.840 --> 05:21.800 You know, I mean... 05:21.800 --> 05:23.840 Speaking of deer, I'm with you. 05:24.080 --> 05:25.340 Yeah, I will never hit one. 05:25.360 --> 05:27.360 And I'm not saying it could never happen. 05:27.560 --> 05:29.260 But if it does, it's not because of God. 05:29.460 --> 05:30.280 Yeah, exactly. 05:31.040 --> 05:37.160 And the stance I take every time I get in the car. 05:38.580 --> 05:40.680 I declare what will happen and what won't. 05:41.760 --> 05:44.380 I will not hit a deer. 05:45.040 --> 05:46.240 I will not hit a possum. 05:46.340 --> 05:48.320 Possums can take the bottom of your car out, man. 05:49.080 --> 05:50.080 Like hitting a rock. 05:52.300 --> 05:53.380 Especially at night. 05:54.420 --> 05:55.360 Claim the stance. 05:55.940 --> 05:56.820 Claim the position. 05:58.880 --> 06:02.380 Now, if I'm inadvertently under the wrong flow, 06:02.580 --> 06:05.100 I can say whatever I want to say and I still might hit a deer. 06:06.300 --> 06:09.320 So there is a realm of you've got to stay obedient. 06:10.140 --> 06:14.020 But so you're coming down on the side of if an accident takes place, 06:16.940 --> 06:18.500 it's not middle ground. 06:18.640 --> 06:19.220 It's not blessing. 06:19.540 --> 06:22.040 Somehow the devil got an attack, a smack in on you. 06:22.520 --> 06:22.840 Okay? 06:24.680 --> 06:25.780 Who else got the mic? 06:26.800 --> 06:27.900 Go for it. 06:32.800 --> 06:33.880 What's the word say? 06:36.380 --> 06:39.300 The devil is out to rob, steal and destroy. 06:42.710 --> 06:43.690 So he's the author. 06:52.290 --> 06:57.350 But I come with a whole bunch of testimonies. 06:58.870 --> 07:00.290 Situations I've been in. 07:02.650 --> 07:05.730 And the midst of the mass of the Holy Spirit comes in. 07:07.710 --> 07:10.430 And it saved my life time and time again. 07:12.070 --> 07:14.150 Or saved destruction completely. 07:19.110 --> 07:28.530 So you're going to come down on the side that anything that's destruction to us is Satan is the core of that. 07:28.650 --> 07:29.750 That's the wrong flow. 07:29.910 --> 07:31.590 Somehow that has gotten active in our life. 07:31.690 --> 07:32.190 Is that what you're saying? 07:32.650 --> 07:35.670 I'm saying the word said he's the author. 07:36.610 --> 07:38.770 And that's the way I look at it. 07:40.410 --> 07:45.490 But at the same time, I agree with what's being said there. 07:47.910 --> 07:49.030 On the wall, you mean? 07:49.390 --> 07:49.610 Yeah. 07:49.830 --> 07:49.990 Okay. 07:50.810 --> 07:53.690 I'm going to stop with the bottom line is the word don't lie. 07:54.410 --> 07:54.630 Okay. 07:55.850 --> 07:59.530 And you got to go back to the word. 07:59.690 --> 08:04.010 The word says Satan's out to rob, steal and destroy. 08:05.050 --> 08:05.910 Kill you. 08:08.030 --> 08:11.610 Set you up for murder and your number of things. 08:14.110 --> 08:28.900 But when our love is for the Lord, time and time again, he'll save you in the midst of the mess. 08:29.840 --> 08:30.040 Okay. 08:30.520 --> 08:36.260 Now there may be, there's suffering you go through and stuff, but not complete. 08:36.280 --> 08:38.180 Well, maybe suffering with cancer is God's will. 08:40.060 --> 08:41.680 What is suffering then? 08:42.740 --> 08:45.080 Cancer is from the enemy. 08:45.400 --> 08:46.880 I told you, you're going to have to defend your spot. 08:47.260 --> 08:48.780 If you're going to take a stance, you're going to have to defend it. 08:48.860 --> 08:50.460 I'll give you my opinion. 08:50.860 --> 08:52.280 My mother died of cancer. 08:54.060 --> 09:00.920 And I don't, I strongly, I don't feel that lineage of her is coming on me. 09:03.240 --> 09:05.920 And I denounced it. 09:07.100 --> 09:10.420 There's never was any cancer on my father's side. 09:11.840 --> 09:12.160 Yep. 09:12.560 --> 09:13.620 Well, my mother died. 09:14.020 --> 09:18.840 I don't know any other relatives on her side, but... 09:18.840 --> 09:20.700 But you feel take a stand against it. 09:21.460 --> 09:22.000 Yeah. 09:22.240 --> 09:22.400 Good. 09:22.600 --> 09:23.260 So let's move on. 09:23.540 --> 09:24.840 Let's go to the mic to another person. 09:25.420 --> 09:30.560 Suffering, scripturally, 1 Peter 4, 1, suffering is doing God's will, not ours. 09:30.560 --> 09:32.800 That is true suffering. 09:33.600 --> 09:36.460 Suffering under sickness or disease is not scriptural. 09:36.800 --> 09:38.780 We've been bought out from underneath it. 09:39.100 --> 09:42.220 But true suffering is to learn to obey. 09:44.320 --> 09:45.040 You're up. 09:47.160 --> 09:48.380 Sorry, just that. 09:48.540 --> 09:49.620 Did I throw your thought off there? 09:49.700 --> 09:49.820 You did. 09:51.880 --> 09:55.260 I was going to say the same thing about how the enemy comes to kill, 09:55.280 --> 09:56.060 steal, and destroy. 09:56.660 --> 09:59.180 And Jesus came that we would have life and life abundant. 09:59.740 --> 10:04.680 So if you could, there's like, there's no middle ground on that. 10:05.140 --> 10:07.800 Okay. Anybody else want to weigh in on this? 10:09.260 --> 10:12.020 Once you're done weighing in, I'm going to take it some other place 10:12.020 --> 10:15.560 and you're going to have to fight your corner. 10:21.680 --> 10:22.960 I'm trying to think. 10:26.200 --> 10:30.140 Most examples of accidents in my experience 10:31.060 --> 10:35.780 are a result of unwise decisions. 10:38.760 --> 10:42.780 And I can think of either not listening or not asking 10:42.780 --> 10:44.940 what you should be doing 10:45.700 --> 10:52.380 or failure to follow common sense and wisdom. 10:52.620 --> 10:54.380 If you're not going to maintain your car, 10:54.960 --> 10:59.940 you can't blame the devil. 11:00.640 --> 11:05.480 Well, yeah, you know, it's not in God's kingdom. 11:06.040 --> 11:07.900 If you're not going to maintain your car 11:07.900 --> 11:10.440 and then say that God caused you to break down. 11:11.200 --> 11:14.080 If you're not going to fill your tank, 11:14.580 --> 11:17.260 you can't say it's God's will that you ran out of gas. 11:18.220 --> 11:19.600 And it's not just me. 11:20.060 --> 11:24.180 It's if I'm hit by a drunk driver, 11:26.160 --> 11:27.700 it might not be my choice, 11:27.700 --> 11:29.700 but it was definitely there on wisdom. 11:30.120 --> 11:33.840 I mean, the devil was involved in this somehow. 11:34.620 --> 11:37.060 Now, and I'm not saying that I'm at the mercy 11:37.060 --> 11:39.060 of what other people's choices are either. 11:39.400 --> 11:44.040 I'm just saying that most if not all accidents 11:44.040 --> 11:47.260 I can think of involve a bad choice 11:47.260 --> 11:49.480 at some point on some party's behalf. 11:49.960 --> 11:51.800 Okay, so let's pursue that. 11:51.900 --> 11:53.020 Stay with the mic just a little bit. 11:53.140 --> 11:54.160 Let's pursue that for a bit. 11:57.080 --> 11:59.820 So teenagers are prime examples of this. 12:01.460 --> 12:03.000 Adults can do the same thing, 12:03.180 --> 12:06.280 but teens are still trying to get their feet underneath themselves 12:06.280 --> 12:09.560 and they tend to make a lot of bad choices. 12:10.320 --> 12:13.020 Why? From your experience, you've raised some teens. 12:13.600 --> 12:16.060 From your experience, why did your teens make bad choices? 12:17.440 --> 12:18.680 Same reason I did. 12:18.680 --> 12:23.940 Lack of consideration, lack of training. 12:24.420 --> 12:28.560 This flow or this flow, what you're describing? 12:29.280 --> 12:31.100 That's the devil's flow. 12:31.240 --> 12:36.720 Devil's flow. Lack of obedience to when Kevin said, 12:37.580 --> 12:41.840 now it's icy this morning, slow down 12:42.680 --> 12:44.880 and don't drive like you normally do. 12:45.720 --> 12:49.500 And they go out and disobey the wisdom 12:50.200 --> 12:51.980 and they end up in an accident. 12:52.980 --> 12:55.560 This flow or this flow? 12:55.780 --> 12:56.620 It was a bad choice. 12:56.860 --> 12:57.640 It was a bad choice. 12:58.000 --> 12:59.840 The choice was of this flow. 13:01.020 --> 13:05.280 So it's still... how would you say? 13:06.820 --> 13:09.800 Demons didn't shove their car into another car, 13:09.800 --> 13:13.680 but their own sin put them in a position 13:15.260 --> 13:17.460 to make the unwise bad choice. 13:17.600 --> 13:19.040 I'm in 100% agreement with you. 13:19.560 --> 13:21.940 But the reason many times we make those choices 13:21.940 --> 13:26.760 is pride, disobedience, rebellion, arrogance. 13:27.800 --> 13:28.840 Dad thinks it's slippery. 13:29.220 --> 13:31.220 I can drive high one. I can control this car. 13:31.900 --> 13:35.600 Pow. Where does all that thinking come from? 13:36.840 --> 13:41.220 Right here. Right? Am I wrong? 13:43.540 --> 13:44.840 Okay. Back there. 13:45.360 --> 13:45.460 Okay. 13:46.460 --> 13:51.120 Okay, so back to the scenario where they were hugging 13:51.120 --> 13:54.520 and pray that this will be used for God's glory. 13:55.000 --> 13:56.820 I'm sure we've all been there. 13:57.160 --> 13:57.860 Yep, we have. 13:58.420 --> 14:00.360 So what do you tell them? 14:01.260 --> 14:02.440 That's the hard part. 14:03.040 --> 14:04.520 What do you say without offending them? 14:06.400 --> 14:08.040 That's why we're looking to you. 14:08.040 --> 14:08.560 Yeah. 14:10.080 --> 14:11.560 Here's what I've learned to do. 14:12.540 --> 14:16.220 I won't acknowledge I'm going to do what they're asking me to do. 14:16.360 --> 14:19.260 I'm not going to agree that this is a good thing. 14:20.500 --> 14:22.500 I'll just say, well, let's pray. 14:23.880 --> 14:26.100 And then I'll just pray the way I pray. 14:27.420 --> 14:29.700 And however it lands, not my issue. 14:30.980 --> 14:32.640 I'm not going to pray bad things. 14:33.160 --> 14:34.340 I'm going to pray that 14:36.060 --> 14:38.400 many times I will do this too. 14:38.580 --> 14:40.160 I will stop if the person is coherent. 14:40.280 --> 14:41.680 I'll say, what can you believe for? 14:43.160 --> 14:44.460 What are you faithing for? 14:44.560 --> 14:45.460 What are you believing for? 14:46.680 --> 14:48.380 Because no matter what I pray, 14:48.660 --> 14:50.780 if they're believing to die quickly, 14:53.680 --> 14:56.100 chances are good they're going to get what they're believing for. 14:57.380 --> 15:01.660 So let's surround that and make that as godly as we can. 15:02.440 --> 15:05.200 We don't have to address the fact they're dying of cancer. 15:06.160 --> 15:09.780 We can just address they want to die quickly. 15:10.260 --> 15:11.500 They don't want to linger. 15:11.980 --> 15:13.720 Okay, I can agree with you on that. 15:13.780 --> 15:15.700 Because if I was you, I wouldn't want to linger either. 15:16.520 --> 15:17.960 So I can agree with that. 15:18.300 --> 15:19.920 And I'll just pray the way I pray. 15:24.600 --> 15:29.360 It can be very difficult if you address the issue they brought up. 15:29.360 --> 15:32.600 If the issue is unscriptural, 15:34.000 --> 15:38.300 sometimes my experience is that's the wrong time to lock horns. 15:40.160 --> 15:41.500 Avoid the issue. 15:44.000 --> 15:45.440 Pray God's will. 15:45.720 --> 15:47.800 Pray God's best in that situation. 15:48.560 --> 15:51.680 But don't lock horns by looking at them and saying, 15:52.760 --> 15:53.600 well, this is demonic. 15:54.040 --> 15:56.160 I am not going to pray what you want me to pray. 15:56.360 --> 15:58.320 I mean, you're just, she's going to blow. 15:58.320 --> 15:59.940 I mean, that's all. 16:00.200 --> 16:02.780 I mean, these people are sensitive now. 16:03.040 --> 16:04.820 They're fragile. They're emotional. 16:05.660 --> 16:08.060 You say something like that. She's going to blow. 16:08.920 --> 16:13.580 But at the same token, I cannot come into agreement with, 16:14.380 --> 16:17.600 well, we're going to pray and believe that this cancer is for God's glory. 16:17.740 --> 16:22.580 Because now I'm opening myself up and my lineage up to something. 16:22.840 --> 16:27.020 Because I just agreed to, and now by my words, 16:27.600 --> 16:32.520 I'm going to confess something that is actually of this flow. 16:33.500 --> 16:35.040 Well, I'll just ask forgiveness later. 16:37.840 --> 16:40.240 There's a scripture on that that I found today. 16:40.480 --> 16:42.400 I can look it up for you. I never saw it before. 16:42.580 --> 16:46.480 And it's like, oh my God doesn't like that. 16:48.740 --> 16:52.200 I never saw it before. I knew it from Thessalonians. 16:52.420 --> 16:55.420 Second Thessalonians too. He talks about it a little bit. 16:55.420 --> 16:58.700 But this one, he basically says, you do that. 16:59.440 --> 17:03.340 I will see to it you suffer the curse you're doing that with. 17:04.060 --> 17:07.780 So in other words, God will watch over this thing and 17:09.220 --> 17:13.400 you just can't play with this flow and say, 17:13.440 --> 17:14.440 well, I'll fix it later. 17:15.360 --> 17:17.360 What makes you think God will fix it for you? 17:17.440 --> 17:18.420 See, that's presumptuous faith. 17:19.420 --> 17:21.260 It's like, well, I'll sin on Saturday night. 17:21.400 --> 17:23.680 Sunday morning I'll go ask forgiveness and God will forgive me 17:23.680 --> 17:24.320 and it'll all be good. 17:24.420 --> 17:25.860 What makes you think God's going to forgive you? 17:26.520 --> 17:27.460 Well, he forgives, don't he? 17:28.160 --> 17:29.740 He forgives a sincere heart. 17:30.080 --> 17:32.840 Yours ain't sincere just by that premeditated action. 17:33.040 --> 17:33.580 You're not sincere. 17:34.840 --> 17:36.520 What makes you think God's going to forgive you? 17:37.280 --> 17:39.540 Well, he has to. He does not have to. 17:42.260 --> 17:45.060 Well, when I ask forgiveness, God has to forgive me. 17:46.740 --> 17:47.140 Garbage. 17:50.320 --> 17:51.480 He don't have to. 17:51.480 --> 17:53.340 He wants to. 17:54.760 --> 17:57.420 He will, if the heart's sincere. 17:57.900 --> 18:01.640 But if this is a game, there's no forgiveness for that. 18:06.300 --> 18:08.400 Now I could go another direction on that. 18:08.520 --> 18:08.920 I'm going to wait. 18:09.460 --> 18:10.900 Somebody else, Rich, go ahead. 18:11.620 --> 18:12.260 Yeah. 18:13.220 --> 18:16.640 We have God's grace flowing down. 18:17.600 --> 18:21.100 And we have the curse flowing down on this side. 18:21.400 --> 18:21.520 Yep. 18:21.520 --> 18:27.340 So is that where chastisement comes from? 18:27.840 --> 18:30.820 Or is that a whole other different subject? 18:31.680 --> 18:33.840 Chastisement, from my understanding, 18:33.840 --> 18:39.540 is when we lose the ability to live in this flow, 18:41.160 --> 18:44.740 we can't escape this flow. 18:45.280 --> 18:47.940 Because the supernatural's not working for us 18:47.940 --> 18:50.820 because we're under discipline from God. 18:51.660 --> 18:53.460 We're being chastisement. We're under discipline. 18:54.280 --> 18:56.840 Well, I prayed for my children five times. 18:56.960 --> 18:57.460 Nothing happened. 18:58.180 --> 18:58.880 Is that normal? 19:00.980 --> 19:01.840 I mean, they're sick. 19:02.720 --> 19:04.060 They're getting ready to go to the ER. 19:04.500 --> 19:06.240 Well, I prayed for them five times. Nothing happened. 19:07.340 --> 19:08.280 So is that normal? 19:09.200 --> 19:10.560 A lot of Christians think it is. 19:11.900 --> 19:13.400 So I guess God's not going to do anything. 19:13.560 --> 19:15.700 We're going to back the horse up. 19:17.000 --> 19:23.000 God already declared what should be happening when we're sick. 19:23.720 --> 19:25.880 He already declared what His will is. 19:26.820 --> 19:31.240 When it's not happening, something's wrong. 19:32.660 --> 19:34.020 End of subject. 19:35.840 --> 19:38.020 To make excuses for... 19:38.020 --> 19:39.780 Well, sometimes God heals, sometimes He don't. 19:40.700 --> 19:41.720 You're pathetic. 19:43.100 --> 19:44.840 You're pathetic. That's religion. 19:45.680 --> 19:49.200 God already said in His word. 19:49.560 --> 19:53.500 If it's not happening, something's wrong. 19:53.620 --> 19:56.200 Because we are not able to escape this flow. 19:57.060 --> 19:59.760 Because the supernatural has stopped in our life. 20:00.320 --> 20:02.720 That can happen because you're under discipline. 20:03.640 --> 20:05.940 And the reason we get under discipline is we disobeyed. 20:06.020 --> 20:07.380 And we continue to disobey. 20:07.720 --> 20:09.240 So God disciplining us. 20:09.780 --> 20:11.940 The biggest thing that's supposed to catch our attention 20:11.940 --> 20:16.140 in God's discipline is the supernatural quits working in our life. 20:17.100 --> 20:19.480 That is supposed to be a wake-up call. 20:19.920 --> 20:22.140 For the American church, that's normal. 20:23.760 --> 20:25.980 We don't even expect the supernatural to work. 20:26.620 --> 20:29.300 In fact, there's lots of people who take that child to the doctor 20:29.300 --> 20:30.320 and never pray. 20:31.500 --> 20:33.720 Because they don't believe anything's going to happen. 20:34.640 --> 20:37.720 So they could be totally out of the supernatural 20:37.720 --> 20:39.060 and never know it because 20:39.620 --> 20:41.540 they're not even trying to live in the blessing. 20:43.220 --> 20:44.900 Because we make all kinds of excuses. 20:45.180 --> 20:46.840 Because see, here's the problem that we develop. 20:47.160 --> 20:47.980 So I'm going to jump there. 20:48.460 --> 20:50.280 If anybody else wants to weigh in on some stuff, you can. 20:50.420 --> 20:51.120 But I'm going to jump there. 20:52.500 --> 20:56.380 When we say all bad things that happen 20:58.180 --> 20:59.140 have somehow 21:00.200 --> 21:01.880 a root from this flow. 21:02.180 --> 21:03.640 And Kevin's question was perfect. 21:04.300 --> 21:08.100 Because it can show how this flow can get going in our life. 21:09.180 --> 21:10.560 It can be just plain pride. 21:12.000 --> 21:13.780 It can be just plain disobedience. 21:14.160 --> 21:15.160 It can be whatever. 21:17.820 --> 21:20.280 You know, during the worship time, before service, 21:20.380 --> 21:22.740 I said, or before the class, I was telling God, 21:23.220 --> 21:24.940 whatever you want me to share, I'll share. 21:25.140 --> 21:29.240 Give it to me. I have no preplanned examples I want to give. 21:33.560 --> 21:35.220 So this is probably God. 21:35.340 --> 21:36.040 So I'm going to share it. 21:37.420 --> 21:39.660 And this is kind of a tender one. 21:41.340 --> 21:45.340 Remember the night when I said my oldest son had a vision of the lineage. 21:46.400 --> 21:51.040 And he saw, on my dad's side, he saw my... 21:51.560 --> 21:53.620 it would be his great-great-grandparents, 21:54.320 --> 21:56.460 his great-grandparents, his grandparents, 21:58.240 --> 22:00.380 and Mary and I are not there yet. 22:00.580 --> 22:02.360 So he saw that much. 22:02.460 --> 22:04.600 Kind of like on a staircase coming down, 22:05.100 --> 22:06.240 oldest to the youngest. 22:07.500 --> 22:10.840 And he said the day in the vision, the Lord told him, 22:10.880 --> 22:11.980 he said, the day will come. 22:12.440 --> 22:13.400 Your parents will... 22:13.400 --> 22:16.760 I always look for little things that make it go, 22:17.180 --> 22:18.100 yeah, that was probably God. 22:18.460 --> 22:22.560 He said, the day will come, your parents will be gathered to their people. 22:24.180 --> 22:26.240 See, that's not American vernacular. 22:27.020 --> 22:27.860 That's scriptural. 22:28.660 --> 22:29.940 That's almost King James there. 22:30.840 --> 22:33.920 They'll be gathered to their people and they'll take their line in the lineage. 22:33.920 --> 22:34.960 It's that and the other. 22:36.120 --> 22:37.540 So he saw that. 22:37.720 --> 22:43.640 Well, something happened in that vision 22:43.640 --> 22:45.820 that I don't fully understand. 22:45.960 --> 22:48.320 That's why I don't readily share it. 22:48.360 --> 22:49.120 And it's his story. 22:49.980 --> 22:52.740 He could probably do a whole lot better job sharing it than I, 22:52.860 --> 22:55.800 but it pertains right here and God just brought it to my mind. 22:56.020 --> 22:59.100 It can be as easy as pride, okay? 23:00.200 --> 23:02.260 My great grandfather, 23:04.560 --> 23:10.860 who they say the pelts are actually more from the Jewish line 23:10.860 --> 23:13.180 than the German line. 23:13.580 --> 23:16.680 We always called ourselves German heritage, German lineage, 23:17.400 --> 23:21.800 but we had an uncle who did a deep, deep study 23:21.800 --> 23:24.960 and he got back as far as Prussia, 23:24.960 --> 23:26.400 which was part of Russia. 23:26.940 --> 23:28.260 Between Poland and Russia, 23:28.360 --> 23:30.520 there was a little section of land that was called Prussia. 23:31.020 --> 23:32.360 Phil was from there, wasn't he? 23:33.320 --> 23:34.460 Somebody was from there. 23:34.560 --> 23:36.940 I thought Phil told me his ancestors were from Prussia too. 23:37.400 --> 23:40.040 Anyway, he says you can go back that far 23:40.040 --> 23:41.080 and then you can't go any further 23:41.080 --> 23:42.920 because Russia won't release any records. 23:43.300 --> 23:45.120 They don't make anything public. 23:45.480 --> 23:46.000 It's all secret. 23:46.740 --> 23:52.020 He said, but the pelts came from an area in Prussia 23:52.020 --> 23:58.100 where the Jews had run to to escape persecution and death. 23:59.060 --> 24:00.700 So there was a settlement there 24:00.700 --> 24:04.240 and that's where we trace our ancestry back to, okay? 24:04.920 --> 24:06.500 So I say all that to say this, 24:07.360 --> 24:09.240 my great grandfather's name. 24:10.100 --> 24:11.240 No, think this through. 24:11.940 --> 24:16.080 My great grandfather's name, last name pelts, is Jewish. 24:16.440 --> 24:17.320 They say you go to Florida, 24:17.500 --> 24:19.480 you find all kinds of Jews who are named pelts. 24:19.640 --> 24:21.100 I haven't been there to figure this out, 24:21.100 --> 24:23.060 but this man lived there and he said, 24:23.100 --> 24:24.960 oh yeah, there's a lot of Jews in Florida 24:24.960 --> 24:26.920 whose last name is pelts, okay? 24:27.480 --> 24:29.060 So you got Jewish heritage. 24:29.660 --> 24:32.000 My great grandfather's last name was pelts. 24:32.000 --> 24:33.080 He was on that side of the family. 24:33.560 --> 24:35.500 His first name was Christian. 24:38.080 --> 24:39.260 Now you tell me, 24:39.360 --> 24:41.400 somebody was not trying to make a statement there. 24:44.140 --> 24:49.700 Why would you name your son Christian Jew? 24:52.870 --> 24:55.730 Because we're coming out of Judaism 24:56.890 --> 24:58.430 and we're serving Christ. 24:58.590 --> 25:01.110 We recognized he's the Messiah, okay? 25:01.710 --> 25:05.650 My great grandfather on that side, 25:06.090 --> 25:07.490 obviously I didn't know him, 25:07.530 --> 25:08.490 but from what I've heard, 25:09.430 --> 25:12.970 he was Baptist in his religion 25:12.970 --> 25:16.370 and he was very committed to God, 25:16.650 --> 25:19.450 extremely committed to God, okay? 25:20.350 --> 25:23.550 It was in 1905, I believe, was the year, 25:23.610 --> 25:24.570 or is it 1895? 25:24.930 --> 25:25.910 Might have been 1895. 25:27.090 --> 25:27.470 I don't know. 25:27.730 --> 25:28.630 He was back there somewhere. 25:30.410 --> 25:33.030 He took his horses and wagon, 25:33.270 --> 25:35.750 went to the field to bring hay home. 25:37.810 --> 25:39.730 And he had the whole thing loaded. 25:39.890 --> 25:41.270 He was riding on top of it. 25:41.310 --> 25:42.290 He was trying to get home 25:42.770 --> 25:44.490 before a thunderstorm came. 25:45.170 --> 25:46.770 He got struck by lightning and killed. 25:48.470 --> 25:49.070 Okay? 25:51.730 --> 25:56.550 That threw the whole family upside down 25:57.190 --> 25:59.210 because there was no government help. 26:00.270 --> 26:03.190 There was no social services to step in. 26:03.750 --> 26:05.890 So what they did at that time is 26:05.890 --> 26:07.770 then of course the mother was alone. 26:08.310 --> 26:09.510 She was farming. 26:09.750 --> 26:10.770 She couldn't... 26:11.450 --> 26:13.530 Many times they would marry someone else 26:13.530 --> 26:16.770 just to live at that point. 26:17.230 --> 26:18.730 It was a marriage of necessity. 26:20.590 --> 26:21.990 Well, that hadn't happened. 26:22.230 --> 26:22.790 She couldn't... 26:22.790 --> 26:23.850 They had a whole bunch of children. 26:24.390 --> 26:25.670 She couldn't keep them all. 26:25.910 --> 26:28.170 So they farmed the children out 26:28.170 --> 26:29.970 to different relatives. 26:30.710 --> 26:31.590 That was normal. 26:32.350 --> 26:33.450 Different relatives would say, 26:33.470 --> 26:35.090 I'll step up and I'll raise these two 26:35.090 --> 26:37.090 and that relative step up 26:37.090 --> 26:37.970 and raise those two 26:37.970 --> 26:39.770 and the whole family gets separated. 26:40.930 --> 26:44.790 That separation caused a lot of bitterness 26:44.790 --> 26:47.410 and problems in the family 26:48.950 --> 26:52.470 that my grandparents' generation, 26:53.550 --> 26:56.370 many of them struggled to live for God. 26:56.650 --> 26:58.390 Some flat out just cursed God. 26:58.790 --> 26:59.630 Well, nothing to do with God. 27:01.070 --> 27:03.290 And they think it's because of what happened 27:03.290 --> 27:05.170 and the bitterness they have towards God 27:05.170 --> 27:06.390 because grandpa got killed. 27:06.690 --> 27:07.990 Grandpa was a godly man. 27:07.990 --> 27:09.150 We got split up. 27:09.310 --> 27:11.450 Our lives never became normal again. 27:11.890 --> 27:14.750 And as a result, everything went sideways. 27:16.010 --> 27:19.070 So that's the story back to the vision. 27:21.470 --> 27:23.390 So this is how I remember it. 27:23.830 --> 27:25.790 Like I said, he could be more accurate with it. 27:25.830 --> 27:27.010 But he saw this lineage 27:29.390 --> 27:31.750 and it happened back in the modular. 27:32.610 --> 27:34.430 I still remember the night it happened. 27:36.210 --> 27:37.550 He was in a trance 27:38.850 --> 27:41.590 and all of a sudden he starts wailing 27:42.410 --> 27:43.650 in this trance. 27:44.010 --> 27:47.130 Just wailing, grieving, wailing. 27:48.250 --> 27:51.350 And it's like, wow, I wonder what that's about. 27:51.430 --> 27:53.110 That went on for probably five minutes. 27:53.390 --> 27:55.210 It was fairly long, four or five minutes. 27:55.510 --> 27:57.410 Just wailing and then it came to an end. 28:01.570 --> 28:02.710 So I'm curious. 28:04.650 --> 28:06.210 So in time I asked. 28:06.990 --> 28:08.350 I said, do you remember any of that? 28:08.990 --> 28:10.390 Oh yeah, he remembered it all 28:10.390 --> 28:11.670 and he could explain it all 28:11.670 --> 28:13.170 and there's a bunch I don't even know about. 28:14.090 --> 28:15.670 I said, what was the wailing about? 28:17.750 --> 28:20.970 He said, well, I saw the lineup 28:20.970 --> 28:22.710 and I know what God told me. 28:23.750 --> 28:30.170 He said, and then I knew my great-great-grandfather. 28:30.550 --> 28:31.970 I knew who he was. 28:32.170 --> 28:33.050 I knew him by name. 28:33.170 --> 28:34.270 It's like I knew everything. 28:35.170 --> 28:38.730 He said he went into wailing and grief. 28:41.170 --> 28:44.470 He said that transferred to me. 28:46.610 --> 28:49.290 So I just let it happen. 28:49.290 --> 28:52.550 And as he was wailing and grieving, 28:53.290 --> 28:56.250 I'd expressed it in the physical realm. 28:58.030 --> 28:59.810 And it was kind of a wailing 28:59.810 --> 29:00.970 and a grief of repentance. 29:02.290 --> 29:04.070 And when he was done, 29:06.910 --> 29:10.290 great-grandfather told him. 29:11.150 --> 29:14.750 He said, I have been waiting 29:14.750 --> 29:19.530 and waiting and waiting to do that. 29:20.610 --> 29:26.350 To be able to express in the realm it happened 29:27.630 --> 29:31.390 my sincere regret and repentance. 29:32.310 --> 29:38.770 He said, my wife told me, 29:40.350 --> 29:42.910 don't get the hay. 29:45.570 --> 29:47.850 I have a bad feeling. 29:48.610 --> 29:49.770 Don't go. 29:50.230 --> 29:51.070 Just stay here. 29:51.770 --> 29:55.670 He said, but in my pride and arrogance, 29:56.850 --> 29:58.410 I overruled her. 29:59.090 --> 30:00.950 And I went and got the hay. 30:01.530 --> 30:04.190 And my lineage has never been the same since. 30:08.590 --> 30:09.950 Wow, that's heavy. 30:13.820 --> 30:14.700 So getting in the road. 30:15.160 --> 30:17.480 Well, lightning strikes people sometimes. 30:17.480 --> 30:18.940 No, that was demonic. 30:20.020 --> 30:21.460 He said, well, what was the open door? 30:21.740 --> 30:22.380 His pride and arrogance. 30:23.880 --> 30:26.520 Instead of stopping and saying, honey, let's pray. 30:27.160 --> 30:28.600 If you're feeling this way, 30:29.020 --> 30:30.080 maybe God will show me. 30:30.480 --> 30:31.620 And if you just feel it strongly, 30:31.880 --> 30:32.740 I'll just go with it. 30:33.600 --> 30:34.420 I'll just skip it. 30:34.480 --> 30:35.020 I'll just stay home. 30:36.180 --> 30:37.340 The man would have stayed alive. 30:38.040 --> 30:39.700 The family would have never been split up. 30:40.080 --> 30:42.160 And he would have raised the whole works 30:42.160 --> 30:42.960 to serve God. 30:43.600 --> 30:44.820 Because that was his heart. 30:45.840 --> 30:49.260 But his pride and arrogance got him over into this flow 30:49.780 --> 30:51.940 in that particular action. 30:52.140 --> 30:53.280 Not in all of life. 30:54.440 --> 30:55.480 In that action. 30:55.780 --> 30:56.620 He went and got hay. 30:56.780 --> 30:58.620 And God was trying to say, don't do it. 30:59.220 --> 31:01.240 Because there was a trap laid for him. 31:01.420 --> 31:03.740 An attack was laid for him. 31:04.120 --> 31:05.660 And he stepped right into it. 31:05.800 --> 31:07.920 And he said, my pride and arrogance got me there. 31:08.060 --> 31:09.960 And he said, I never had the chance 31:09.960 --> 31:12.240 to express that to my God. 31:12.980 --> 31:14.140 In the physical. 31:14.140 --> 31:16.800 So there's a difference somehow between there and here. 31:17.800 --> 31:19.960 He said, I never had the chance to express it. 31:20.260 --> 31:23.600 He said, and he went on said some things about it 31:23.600 --> 31:24.060 and so forth. 31:24.940 --> 31:26.920 So I say all that to say this. 31:27.220 --> 31:30.080 It can be as simple as a prideful decision 31:32.540 --> 31:34.080 that can set us up. 31:35.920 --> 31:37.020 Because what did Paul say? 31:37.100 --> 31:39.060 We're not unaware of Satan's schemes. 31:39.960 --> 31:41.460 Schemes means plans 31:43.280 --> 31:44.760 designed to trap you. 31:45.440 --> 31:46.500 He said, we're not unaware. 31:47.320 --> 31:48.840 Well, how are we not unaware 31:49.480 --> 31:50.360 by the spirit? 31:51.880 --> 31:53.280 We have to follow the spirit. 31:54.360 --> 31:56.180 His wife heard the voice of the spirit. 31:57.600 --> 31:58.920 Out of his own pride and arrogance, 31:59.100 --> 32:00.040 he refused to listen to her. 32:00.920 --> 32:02.260 As a result, it killed him. 32:03.840 --> 32:05.500 Well, was the devil just after him? 32:05.880 --> 32:06.020 No. 32:06.920 --> 32:08.020 He was after everybody. 32:08.240 --> 32:09.220 He was after the whole lineage. 32:13.860 --> 32:15.980 So the whole thing of 32:16.760 --> 32:18.220 obeying and following 32:19.920 --> 32:22.120 to stay in this flow is huge. 32:22.800 --> 32:24.920 We can't play with this over here. 32:25.260 --> 32:26.720 Because if we play with it, 32:27.000 --> 32:29.120 you play with fire long enough, 32:29.240 --> 32:29.760 you're going to get burnt. 32:31.040 --> 32:32.140 We can't play with it. 32:32.580 --> 32:35.080 And that is the basis of blessings and curses. 32:35.300 --> 32:36.640 It's just that simple. 32:37.400 --> 32:38.960 You step into the wrong area, 32:39.620 --> 32:40.460 at the wrong time, 32:40.460 --> 32:41.920 you're going to get burnt. 32:42.800 --> 32:44.760 Sometimes burns are harder than others. 32:49.100 --> 32:49.620 But, 32:51.220 --> 32:52.060 to me, 32:53.240 --> 32:55.700 and everybody's got to make up their own mind on this, 32:56.240 --> 32:56.900 but to me, 32:57.400 --> 32:58.580 I agree with him. 33:00.460 --> 33:02.240 If something bad happens, 33:02.320 --> 33:04.800 somehow somebody got in to mess us. 33:04.880 --> 33:07.420 We stepped into a trap we were never supposed to be in, 33:07.560 --> 33:09.160 because we did something 33:09.160 --> 33:10.920 to get under that flow. 33:12.240 --> 33:14.820 And we fell right into the enemy's trap. 33:16.260 --> 33:19.020 To walk fully in God's blessing 33:19.020 --> 33:21.660 is to walk like Jesus did. 33:22.840 --> 33:24.400 There is no record. 33:24.940 --> 33:25.540 Psalms 91, 33:26.780 --> 33:28.480 God lifted him up in his hands 33:28.480 --> 33:31.240 lest he dashes foot against the stone. 33:31.460 --> 33:33.480 Jesus never stubbed his toe. 33:35.520 --> 33:37.780 Because he was completely 33:37.780 --> 33:39.340 in the flow of blessing. 33:40.400 --> 33:42.240 He never hurt himself. 33:42.800 --> 33:44.840 He never fell off a donkey. 33:46.020 --> 33:47.300 There's no record. 33:47.480 --> 33:50.420 He ever got injured in any way, shape or form, 33:50.420 --> 33:52.040 because the end of John 14, 33:52.700 --> 33:54.600 Satan had nothing in him. 33:55.880 --> 33:58.580 He said, the prince of this world is coming for me, 33:59.380 --> 34:01.680 but the world must learn that 34:01.680 --> 34:04.260 I obey the Father. He has nothing in me. 34:04.280 --> 34:06.660 That's why Jesus laid down his life. 34:06.840 --> 34:09.500 He willingly said, come get me. 34:10.740 --> 34:13.500 Because until he willingly gave his life, 34:15.540 --> 34:16.860 he couldn't be touched. 34:17.480 --> 34:18.500 That's why Paul said 34:19.380 --> 34:21.500 that after the whole thing happened, 34:22.260 --> 34:24.540 the devil and the whole kingdom of darkness 34:24.540 --> 34:26.840 was just kicking themselves and beating themselves up. 34:27.080 --> 34:29.980 Because Paul said, had they known, 34:31.220 --> 34:33.380 that killing the prince of glory 34:33.980 --> 34:36.300 was going to be their demise? 34:37.600 --> 34:39.020 They'd left him alone. 34:40.440 --> 34:41.640 But they didn't know. 34:42.300 --> 34:44.420 So when he said, okay, here's my life. 34:44.540 --> 34:44.940 I give it. 34:45.940 --> 34:48.780 They jumped in and all kinds of demonic stuff 34:48.780 --> 34:50.440 took place from influencing people 34:50.440 --> 34:51.980 to get around Pilate, 34:52.600 --> 34:54.640 to crucify him, crucify him, 34:55.040 --> 34:56.860 call a curse on themselves 34:56.860 --> 34:58.560 and their children. 35:00.120 --> 35:02.620 Call a generational curse on themselves. 35:03.160 --> 35:05.180 For Jesus, that whole thing was demonic. 35:05.840 --> 35:07.220 When you go through the process, 35:07.540 --> 35:08.880 some people have gone through the process, 35:08.980 --> 35:09.740 you can find it online, 35:10.100 --> 35:12.680 of all the things that were done against Jewish law 35:12.680 --> 35:14.720 in Jesus' crucifixion. 35:15.060 --> 35:17.180 They broke law after law after law after law 35:17.180 --> 35:17.940 to get him killed. 35:19.400 --> 35:21.380 That was demonic. That was not blessing. 35:22.340 --> 35:25.080 That was this flow. Jesus was giving his life. 35:25.840 --> 35:27.700 Satan couldn't take it, so he gave it. 35:28.400 --> 35:29.340 Had they known, 35:31.400 --> 35:32.820 that was going to happen, 35:33.480 --> 35:35.360 they'd have left him alone, but they didn't know. 35:35.480 --> 35:37.340 They took it as the opportunity to snuff him out. 35:38.160 --> 35:39.500 And he rose from the dead. 35:40.260 --> 35:42.980 And now he's conqueror, he's victor, 35:43.060 --> 35:44.660 and he's offering that to everybody else. 35:45.060 --> 35:46.700 Had they known that, they wouldn't have went there. 35:47.620 --> 35:49.640 So we know that whole thing was demonic 35:49.640 --> 35:50.960 because Paul said it was. 35:51.320 --> 35:53.160 He said they'd have left him alone, had they known, 35:53.260 --> 35:53.940 but they didn't know. 35:55.440 --> 35:58.680 So Jesus, who was literally walking in blessing 35:58.680 --> 36:02.540 with nothing ever going bad in his life, 36:03.620 --> 36:07.140 gave himself over to complete annihilation 36:08.100 --> 36:09.840 for us, paid the price. 36:12.360 --> 36:13.980 Any other questions? Any other thoughts? 36:14.660 --> 36:17.480 I have one here that was on YouTube also. 36:17.700 --> 36:19.460 So we'll go there and we'll go here 36:19.460 --> 36:21.940 and then I'll answer this one to make sure that we get... 36:21.940 --> 36:24.620 and we can stay and go over them, but go ahead. 36:25.440 --> 36:26.140 Okay, then. 36:27.520 --> 36:31.620 When we went off the mountain in Colorado on the bike. 36:34.340 --> 36:35.220 What happened? 36:35.860 --> 36:37.520 Do you have any idea on that? 36:37.900 --> 36:39.760 Because, okay, go for it, please. 36:40.100 --> 36:40.340 I do. 36:42.520 --> 36:45.180 Well, I have to... can I give a little bit of the story? 36:46.080 --> 36:48.480 Okay, so Phil wanted to drive a motorcycle 36:48.480 --> 36:50.240 and he bought a gold wing. 36:50.240 --> 36:52.220 He bought a big bike and he had never driven 36:52.220 --> 36:53.840 bikes much in his life. 36:53.980 --> 36:56.580 And he went for a big one right away, which is fine, 36:56.640 --> 36:58.660 but they handle different, you know, 36:58.660 --> 37:00.040 they're harder to control because they're heavier. 37:00.440 --> 37:00.560 Okay. 37:01.460 --> 37:03.960 So he just had it a short period of time 37:03.960 --> 37:05.560 and he wanted to go to the mountains for a drive. 37:06.100 --> 37:06.300 Okay. 37:08.440 --> 37:10.220 So he told me what it was. 37:12.520 --> 37:15.760 They were driving mountain roads, you know, 37:15.840 --> 37:18.620 like this, and it was raining. 37:20.900 --> 37:21.260 Remember? 37:21.720 --> 37:22.920 It was the roads were wet. 37:24.080 --> 37:25.660 It was, yeah, it had rained. 37:25.880 --> 37:27.000 It was wet, yep. 37:30.000 --> 37:32.840 And he knew he was supposed to slow down. 37:33.000 --> 37:33.500 He told me that. 37:33.580 --> 37:35.580 He said, I knew inside I was supposed to slow down. 37:36.080 --> 37:37.740 He said, but I was being stubborn 37:38.800 --> 37:40.080 and I'm gonna, I'm cold. 37:40.740 --> 37:42.460 So I'm gonna get there as fast as I can. 37:43.700 --> 37:45.080 So they came around the corner 37:45.980 --> 37:48.220 and if my memory is right, there was a rock 37:48.220 --> 37:50.540 on the road or something that he swerved to dodge. 37:51.740 --> 37:54.680 And going around the corner swerved to dodge it. 37:54.780 --> 37:56.920 He lost the ability to stand the road 37:56.920 --> 37:58.580 and they went over the edge. 37:58.780 --> 38:00.800 So I had to drive up and see where they went over. 38:01.700 --> 38:06.020 They were, this was, this was the mercy 38:06.020 --> 38:07.620 and the grace of God. 38:09.140 --> 38:11.620 And someday I'm gonna get to watch the video of this. 38:11.680 --> 38:12.220 This will be funny. 38:13.020 --> 38:15.000 So Bonnie's on the back, fills in the front. 38:15.760 --> 38:16.880 They shoot over the edge. 38:16.880 --> 38:17.900 There was no guardrail there. 38:18.000 --> 38:18.920 They shoot over the edge. 38:19.500 --> 38:20.620 They're going down. 38:20.920 --> 38:22.140 He said, I saw boulders. 38:22.340 --> 38:23.920 He said, and somehow I was avoiding them. 38:25.040 --> 38:27.340 At the bottom, there was a big culvert 38:27.340 --> 38:29.040 that went through underneath the road 38:29.040 --> 38:31.780 and it was a deep creek ravine. 38:31.920 --> 38:34.740 There's like 10 feet deep, maybe. 38:35.280 --> 38:36.660 And I'm guessing 15 across, 38:36.840 --> 38:37.840 because I went and looked at it. 38:39.100 --> 38:40.760 And then it goes up the other side 38:40.760 --> 38:43.060 and we're talking boulders, you know, like that. 38:43.680 --> 38:45.140 And it goes up the other side 38:45.140 --> 38:46.960 and there was a rail there, but there was an opening. 38:47.440 --> 38:48.620 And he said, I went down. 38:49.000 --> 38:49.920 I saw the ravine. 38:50.040 --> 38:50.920 I thought I was dead. 38:51.240 --> 38:53.300 I realized I'm going up the other side. 38:53.400 --> 38:55.100 I saw the opening with my light. 38:55.300 --> 38:58.440 So I just aimed for it and got back on the road. 39:01.880 --> 39:03.280 That's what happened. 39:05.100 --> 39:07.000 So they, they went down. 39:08.560 --> 39:11.120 I'm guessing it was the ravine 39:11.120 --> 39:14.680 was probably 40 feet below the road bed. 39:15.220 --> 39:15.700 About. 39:15.700 --> 39:17.880 So they went down, 39:18.500 --> 39:21.080 jumped this, I'm guessing 15 feet wide, 39:21.400 --> 39:24.060 maybe more, five feet's too much, 39:24.180 --> 39:27.660 but they went right across that, 39:28.280 --> 39:29.580 went up the other side 39:29.580 --> 39:33.080 and everything was laced with these huge boulders. 39:33.300 --> 39:35.780 I still don't see how he got, 39:36.880 --> 39:40.000 because there was no straight path for that opening. 39:41.120 --> 39:43.060 But he just said, I just aimed for it. 39:43.560 --> 39:45.220 This whole thing was a flat out miracle. 39:45.220 --> 39:47.780 It was a flat out miracle. 39:48.000 --> 39:49.920 You both should have been dead at the bottom of that ravine. 39:50.020 --> 39:51.980 Or in deep trouble. 39:52.720 --> 39:53.820 Really hurt, okay? 39:55.100 --> 39:56.740 Yep, God spared you. 39:58.000 --> 39:59.200 Why did that happen? 40:01.000 --> 40:02.040 His disobedience. 40:02.980 --> 40:04.840 He slid over here 40:05.660 --> 40:07.120 because he was being stubborn. 40:08.060 --> 40:10.820 The Holy Spirit was saying, slow down. 40:11.460 --> 40:13.160 The Holy Spirit knew what was coming. 40:14.460 --> 40:15.660 The trap was set. 40:16.620 --> 40:19.560 If you slow down, you won't have any problem. 40:20.260 --> 40:21.560 And he said, I was cold. 40:21.920 --> 40:22.900 I was cranky. 40:23.180 --> 40:24.520 It was night. It was dark. 40:25.220 --> 40:26.980 And he wanted to get where you were going 40:26.980 --> 40:27.840 and get to the motel. 40:27.960 --> 40:29.080 He said, I'm going to slow down. 40:29.240 --> 40:29.820 I can handle it. 40:30.200 --> 40:31.860 So stubbornness and pride 40:33.080 --> 40:34.340 could have killed both of you. 40:35.640 --> 40:37.100 Except you weren't done yet. 40:37.220 --> 40:38.040 He wasn't done yet. 40:38.240 --> 40:39.360 Things needed to be done yet. 40:41.420 --> 40:42.860 God's grace, God's mercy. 40:45.820 --> 40:47.540 This is an old... 40:47.540 --> 40:49.020 Anybody know who Marvin Gorman is? 40:50.200 --> 40:51.560 Anybody remember Marvin Gorman? 40:51.900 --> 40:53.540 He was assembly of God minister 40:53.540 --> 40:54.120 in New Orleans. 40:55.180 --> 40:56.860 He had a big impact on my life. 40:59.560 --> 41:02.160 He was one of the executive presbyters. 41:02.240 --> 41:03.000 He was a bigwig, whatever. 41:03.880 --> 41:05.080 Pastoring a church down there, 41:05.160 --> 41:05.560 a megachurch. 41:06.220 --> 41:07.440 He shares a story 41:08.700 --> 41:09.300 of... 41:09.300 --> 41:13.260 He was on his way home from church 41:13.920 --> 41:15.760 and the traffic was thick. 41:15.940 --> 41:16.880 He was in two lanes 41:16.880 --> 41:19.100 and he said, I wasn't paying attention. 41:19.480 --> 41:20.520 I was on the phone, 41:21.320 --> 41:22.600 early cell phone thing. 41:23.000 --> 41:24.900 I wasn't paying attention the way I should. 41:25.380 --> 41:26.940 And the... 41:26.940 --> 41:28.440 They were working on... 41:28.440 --> 41:29.860 I believe he said a bridge 41:30.440 --> 41:32.020 or something in front of me. 41:32.320 --> 41:34.000 And they closed one lane 41:34.000 --> 41:35.320 and forced everybody over. 41:35.320 --> 41:37.560 He said, and I wasn't paying attention. 41:37.700 --> 41:39.840 And all of a sudden, this car pulls over. 41:40.260 --> 41:42.360 He said, I'm going 50 miles an hour 41:42.360 --> 41:44.600 and there's nothing but a piece of the road 41:44.600 --> 41:46.120 missing in front of me 41:46.120 --> 41:47.980 with a guard on this side. 41:48.400 --> 41:50.980 The thing standing up saying, don't go here. 41:51.840 --> 41:55.000 He said, the only thing I had time to say 41:55.000 --> 41:57.220 was, Jesus help me. 41:58.180 --> 42:00.380 He said, and I blew through that rail. 42:00.740 --> 42:01.680 Pieces were flying. 42:02.060 --> 42:03.680 And he says, the next thing I know 42:03.680 --> 42:05.520 is I'm blowing through another one 42:05.520 --> 42:06.500 on the other side. 42:07.020 --> 42:08.740 And I looked in my mirror 42:08.740 --> 42:11.120 and watched one or two cars 42:11.120 --> 42:12.940 drop in behind me. 42:14.180 --> 42:16.620 And he said, God just floated me 42:16.620 --> 42:17.580 right across that. 42:20.980 --> 42:21.540 Um... 42:21.540 --> 42:24.240 It's like... 42:24.240 --> 42:26.580 I wonder if he wet himself. 42:29.620 --> 42:31.520 You know, stuff like that, 42:31.520 --> 42:32.840 once it hits you, what happened? 42:32.980 --> 42:34.380 It's like, man. 42:36.040 --> 42:37.460 But that was kind of the same thing there. 42:37.900 --> 42:38.340 You know. 42:39.880 --> 42:42.160 And then Phil told me, he said, once we got there, 42:42.280 --> 42:43.860 you were only like three miles from Buena Vista. 42:44.480 --> 42:46.060 Once you got there, he said, 42:46.220 --> 42:48.180 and I realized what really happened. 42:48.280 --> 42:49.140 He said, I couldn't stand up. 42:49.680 --> 42:52.460 He was so weak from whatever. 42:53.100 --> 42:54.740 He said, I got the bike on its stand. 42:54.860 --> 42:55.680 He said, I couldn't stand up. 42:55.720 --> 42:57.040 I had to sit down. I was so weak. 42:58.280 --> 42:58.760 Um... 42:58.760 --> 43:00.240 It's like, wow. 43:01.860 --> 43:03.320 Back. Somebody's got the mic. 43:03.480 --> 43:03.720 Go ahead. 43:04.740 --> 43:09.080 So this conversation is a little close to home for me, 43:09.320 --> 43:10.000 for us. 43:11.040 --> 43:13.100 Just regarding 2011, 43:13.220 --> 43:15.500 our 12-year-old son was killed in a car accident. 43:15.760 --> 43:16.640 Our daughter was a driver. 43:18.520 --> 43:19.740 So, I don't know. 43:19.780 --> 43:21.240 I never felt like we blamed God. 43:21.440 --> 43:23.700 I felt like Micah wasn't buckled in. 43:23.800 --> 43:25.120 He knew to be buckled in. 43:25.120 --> 43:27.280 He had been disciplined two weeks earlier 43:27.280 --> 43:28.440 for not being buckled in. 43:28.560 --> 43:30.380 So I just felt like it was his choice. 43:30.520 --> 43:31.700 God gives us free will. 43:32.020 --> 43:32.960 He made a choice. 43:33.740 --> 43:35.540 And this is a result of that choice. 43:35.720 --> 43:39.120 I didn't really feel like it was, um... 43:40.180 --> 43:40.540 I don't know, 43:40.640 --> 43:42.000 attacked from the enemy necessarily, 43:42.280 --> 43:43.340 but I didn't blame God. 43:43.560 --> 43:45.740 But going back to the beginning of this night, 43:45.880 --> 43:47.760 you talked about, you mentioned the verse about 43:49.180 --> 43:51.520 children, you know, about honoring your parents 43:51.520 --> 43:53.120 and obeying your parents 43:53.120 --> 43:53.700 so that these may go well 43:53.700 --> 43:55.200 and you may live a long life. 43:55.720 --> 43:57.620 And honestly, that's a struggle for me 43:57.620 --> 43:59.180 because Micah was very 43:59.180 --> 44:01.020 honoring of us as parents. 44:01.220 --> 44:02.680 Like, he just wasn't rebellious. 44:02.820 --> 44:04.060 He wasn't... 44:04.060 --> 44:05.900 I mean, obviously, I don't know if you see both of them, 44:05.920 --> 44:08.220 but he was a very obedient, 44:08.980 --> 44:09.780 loved God. 44:10.260 --> 44:11.460 I mean, in a statement of faith 44:11.460 --> 44:12.900 that he had written a year earlier 44:12.900 --> 44:15.600 that said he loves God with his whole heart 44:15.600 --> 44:17.760 and that he knows that there's only one savior 44:17.760 --> 44:19.460 and he knows where he's going when he dies. 44:19.920 --> 44:22.120 So he had that depth of a relationship 44:22.120 --> 44:22.840 with the Lord. 44:23.140 --> 44:24.900 And so when you think about that promise, 44:25.900 --> 44:27.260 that's a promise from God 44:27.260 --> 44:30.000 that your days may go well and you have a long life. 44:30.500 --> 44:31.320 And that's hard. 44:32.840 --> 44:34.220 There's tension in that. 44:35.000 --> 44:35.580 Right? Because 44:35.580 --> 44:37.880 if he were this rebellious kid, 44:38.160 --> 44:39.580 I mean, there are those kids out there 44:39.580 --> 44:42.020 you tell them to sit down and they stand up 44:42.020 --> 44:43.800 or you tell them to stand up and they sit down. 44:44.340 --> 44:45.400 Don't eat that and they do. 44:45.400 --> 44:48.160 I mean, you know, I've parented kids like that 44:48.160 --> 44:49.380 in the foster care system. 44:49.500 --> 44:51.500 I see them and he wasn't that. 44:51.700 --> 44:52.880 And so, like, 44:54.000 --> 44:55.980 that's hard to wrestle with that 44:55.980 --> 44:57.740 because that promise is either 44:57.740 --> 44:59.580 yes and amen or it isn't. 45:00.600 --> 45:01.680 And, you know, 45:01.880 --> 45:03.700 and is that, you know, so, okay, 45:03.800 --> 45:05.380 that promise is true unless you, 45:05.520 --> 45:07.400 you know, took your seatbelt on. 45:07.540 --> 45:09.780 I mean, you may have a seatbelt off for 30 seconds. 45:09.940 --> 45:11.200 We don't know, you know. 45:11.920 --> 45:13.360 And it's silly legal, 45:13.360 --> 45:15.720 you know, it didn't matter if it was 30 seconds 45:15.720 --> 45:17.900 or the whole 10 minutes he was in the car. 45:18.280 --> 45:19.980 But I think, you know, 45:20.060 --> 45:22.460 this is something that we've had to wrestle with. 45:22.660 --> 45:22.760 Yeah. 45:23.200 --> 45:25.380 Because God could have reached over 45:25.380 --> 45:26.680 and clicked his seatbelt. 45:27.080 --> 45:29.100 And the other three kids lived through it 45:29.100 --> 45:30.100 and with no injuries. 45:30.480 --> 45:31.760 You know, he could have prompted, 45:31.940 --> 45:34.300 but maybe he did prompt Micah 10 times 45:34.300 --> 45:36.560 and Micah didn't listen. We don't know that. 45:36.840 --> 45:38.880 But I think we've just found resolve. 45:39.100 --> 45:40.760 We have peace about Micah's death. 45:41.320 --> 45:41.740 Um, 45:42.920 --> 45:44.680 just because I know that God 45:44.680 --> 45:45.880 gives us a free choice. 45:46.120 --> 45:47.440 And for whatever reason, 45:47.580 --> 45:49.100 he didn't have a seatbelt on. 45:49.300 --> 45:51.060 So I know we've just come to terms with that 45:51.060 --> 45:53.420 from that standpoint, but the whole honoring your parents 45:53.420 --> 45:55.880 that you're, you know, that part of that promise of God, 45:56.600 --> 45:58.180 like you have to, like, 45:58.260 --> 46:00.740 do I still believe that the rest of God's promises 46:00.740 --> 46:01.660 are yes and amen? 46:01.820 --> 46:04.420 I have to still believe that the rest of it is true. 46:04.980 --> 46:05.160 Yep. 46:05.500 --> 46:07.320 That's the tension. 46:07.320 --> 46:08.040 Yep. 46:08.880 --> 46:10.640 And that's the hard part 46:10.640 --> 46:12.320 of coming 46:12.320 --> 46:14.780 from the perspective of either 46:15.280 --> 46:16.500 it's under God's flow 46:17.200 --> 46:18.820 or it's under the devil's flow. 46:18.980 --> 46:21.040 There's no in between. That's the hard part 46:21.040 --> 46:22.460 because you run into situations 46:23.040 --> 46:23.860 like this. 46:24.900 --> 46:26.780 But yet to say 46:27.720 --> 46:28.980 the accident 46:28.980 --> 46:30.360 and the death 46:30.360 --> 46:32.160 was the blessing of God? 46:32.920 --> 46:33.700 Can't say that. 46:35.260 --> 46:36.220 So if there is 46:36.220 --> 46:37.560 no gray area in the middle 46:38.480 --> 46:39.440 it had to be 46:39.440 --> 46:41.160 something opened the door 46:41.620 --> 46:42.760 for that to take place. 46:45.810 --> 46:46.790 Could have been both. 46:47.990 --> 46:49.690 Could have been either. Could have been both. 46:51.550 --> 46:52.970 The other thing is 46:52.970 --> 46:54.430 there was an accident. 46:56.030 --> 46:57.050 That's what caused 46:57.050 --> 46:59.350 the lack of seatbelt to show up. 46:59.470 --> 47:01.030 Had there not been an accident, he could have 47:01.030 --> 47:02.790 rode all the way to school without a seatbelt on. 47:02.790 --> 47:03.390 That's what happened. 47:04.130 --> 47:05.810 So there's that facet of it too. 47:08.730 --> 47:10.410 And I'm glad you brought it up 47:10.410 --> 47:12.150 because here's a good opportunity 47:14.090 --> 47:14.530 to... 47:14.530 --> 47:16.510 because the way you've resolved it in that 47:16.510 --> 47:18.530 we know where he's at, life goes on 47:18.530 --> 47:20.210 we're just going to live for God. 47:20.490 --> 47:22.030 Period. We're going to settle it that way. 47:22.490 --> 47:23.890 And it's a good example. 47:24.190 --> 47:25.050 It's a wonderful example. 47:25.850 --> 47:26.290 Because 47:27.970 --> 47:30.470 if you can't do that 47:31.170 --> 47:32.630 and you think you 47:32.630 --> 47:33.970 opened the door up 47:35.110 --> 47:35.750 somehow 47:35.750 --> 47:38.470 well now you can get into condemnation 47:39.550 --> 47:41.070 and blame yourself 47:41.070 --> 47:42.750 and get depressed 47:42.750 --> 47:44.670 and everything else. 47:44.970 --> 47:46.490 You don't want to do that. 47:47.550 --> 47:49.410 But at the same token 47:52.510 --> 47:53.650 is it a blessing 47:53.650 --> 47:54.750 or is it not a blessing? 47:55.230 --> 47:57.030 And that's the hard part 47:57.030 --> 47:59.270 of looking sincerely 47:59.270 --> 48:01.250 at what's happening in our life. 48:01.250 --> 48:03.090 These painful 48:03.090 --> 48:04.410 kinds of things happen. 48:07.460 --> 48:08.840 But if we don't 48:08.840 --> 48:10.620 take the scriptural position 48:10.620 --> 48:12.700 we end up where the church is 48:12.700 --> 48:13.480 right now. 48:14.960 --> 48:16.800 Because my guess is if we 48:16.800 --> 48:18.620 would throw that situation 48:18.620 --> 48:20.580 out to the average church person 48:20.580 --> 48:22.580 and say do you think that was God or the devil? 48:22.800 --> 48:23.380 They'd say neither. 48:24.680 --> 48:26.220 They'd say the road was icy 48:26.820 --> 48:28.500 I don't know stuff happens. 48:28.960 --> 48:30.120 It just happened. 48:30.120 --> 48:32.180 So there's a middle 48:32.180 --> 48:33.840 ground where it's 48:33.840 --> 48:35.240 neither evil nor 48:36.080 --> 48:38.160 righteous. There's just a middle ground. 48:39.100 --> 48:40.080 That's where 48:40.080 --> 48:41.220 the church has come 48:41.840 --> 48:42.680 to believe. 48:43.800 --> 48:45.900 That's why we don't take 48:45.900 --> 48:47.600 the stand we should. 48:48.080 --> 48:49.740 That's why we're as powerless 48:49.740 --> 48:51.440 and as pathetic as we are 48:51.440 --> 48:52.400 as a church. 48:53.000 --> 48:55.660 Because we've accepted 48:55.660 --> 48:57.780 the middle ground as 48:57.780 --> 48:58.160 okay. 48:59.020 --> 49:00.840 In reality there's no middle ground. 49:01.220 --> 49:03.700 But it's those kind of situations that make it really hard 49:03.700 --> 49:04.100 because 49:06.820 --> 49:07.780 how did 49:07.780 --> 49:09.680 where was the door open that caused 49:09.680 --> 49:10.660 our accident in August? 49:11.240 --> 49:13.560 Where the guy rear-ended it? Why did he rear-end us? 49:14.080 --> 49:15.400 Why were we there 49:15.400 --> 49:16.760 at the perfect time? 49:17.120 --> 49:19.140 If we'd have been 30 seconds later 49:19.880 --> 49:21.740 he would have been behind somebody else. 49:22.280 --> 49:23.720 If we'd have been 30 seconds 49:23.720 --> 49:25.640 earlier he'd have been 49:25.640 --> 49:26.640 behind somebody else. 49:27.560 --> 49:29.500 Perfect time to get smacked. 49:31.060 --> 49:32.160 That's a blessing in God. 49:32.340 --> 49:32.720 No, it's not. 49:33.840 --> 49:35.960 No, it's not. It cost us a bunch of money. 49:36.660 --> 49:37.700 It cost Mary 49:37.700 --> 49:39.340 some health issues she's been dealing with. 49:40.200 --> 49:41.280 That's not God. 49:42.420 --> 49:43.480 You can't convince me it's God. 49:43.860 --> 49:45.460 Well, how did you get in 49:45.460 --> 49:46.900 to that situation? I don't know. 49:47.200 --> 49:48.260 We missed something though. 49:49.940 --> 49:51.480 You say, well, that's too late now. 49:51.600 --> 49:53.220 You can't change that. No, I can't. 49:53.220 --> 49:54.680 But if I pay attention 49:54.680 --> 49:56.340 I might change something in the future. 49:57.260 --> 49:58.940 I can't just settle on, 49:59.040 --> 49:59.880 well, that stuff happens. 50:00.160 --> 50:01.520 Teenagers do that kind of stuff. 50:02.960 --> 50:04.020 Something's going to happen again. 50:05.200 --> 50:07.440 I have to back up and say, Holy Spirit, 50:08.260 --> 50:08.740 this 50:08.740 --> 50:10.600 was not you. 50:11.000 --> 50:12.500 You have to settle on it. You can't even go, 50:12.900 --> 50:14.800 Holy Spirit, if this wasn't you, 50:14.900 --> 50:17.180 no, this was not you. 50:18.300 --> 50:19.760 Now, yeah, good came out of it 50:19.760 --> 50:20.840 and blah, blah, blah. 50:20.840 --> 50:22.600 But that came out of it too. 50:22.920 --> 50:25.060 You know, I just 50:25.060 --> 50:26.960 played not in the mood to give 25 grand away 50:27.920 --> 50:29.180 for no reason. 50:29.580 --> 50:29.680 I mean, 50:30.840 --> 50:32.660 that to me was not a blessing. 50:33.360 --> 50:34.460 I got stolen from. 50:35.560 --> 50:36.240 That was a curse. 50:37.280 --> 50:39.300 So this was not you. 50:40.860 --> 50:42.220 So where did he get in? 50:42.560 --> 50:44.820 How did we slip over here? 50:45.220 --> 50:47.220 And like I said, like with my great-grandfather, 50:47.380 --> 50:48.460 it doesn't take a lot. 50:52.010 --> 50:52.450 Somehow 50:52.450 --> 50:53.410 we slipped over 50:54.410 --> 50:56.710 and the trap was set and we fell right into it. 50:58.450 --> 50:59.550 That's hard to admit. 51:00.570 --> 51:01.910 You know, if nothing else, 51:02.170 --> 51:03.650 it's just hard to admit and say, 51:03.810 --> 51:04.790 we miss God. 51:05.450 --> 51:08.370 It's so much more easy on our ego 51:08.370 --> 51:09.170 and our pride 51:09.970 --> 51:11.510 if we go the other route. 51:12.030 --> 51:14.370 Well, it probably wasn't God, but stuff happens. 51:14.550 --> 51:15.710 Bad things happen to good people, 51:15.910 --> 51:17.470 and I'm a good person. 51:17.470 --> 51:18.610 So bad things happen. 51:20.330 --> 51:22.030 It's just recovering our own pride. 51:23.130 --> 51:23.930 It's easier. 51:24.250 --> 51:24.730 So it's hard. 51:25.090 --> 51:26.430 I'm in agreement with you. 51:26.730 --> 51:28.930 Difficult situations come up. 51:31.270 --> 51:32.230 But you know what? 51:32.290 --> 51:33.670 We're going to have more of those situations 51:33.670 --> 51:36.470 if we don't take a stand. 51:37.130 --> 51:38.250 It's hard. It's not easy. 51:38.530 --> 51:38.730 Go ahead. 51:39.290 --> 51:41.830 Well, I was just thinking about my own life 51:41.830 --> 51:44.190 as you were talking about a lot of these things. 51:45.050 --> 51:45.610 And 51:48.290 --> 51:49.410 you remember 51:49.410 --> 51:50.770 I called you and Mary 51:50.770 --> 51:52.270 when I was going into Mayo. 51:52.510 --> 51:54.010 I called you from Rochester 51:54.010 --> 51:56.010 the night before my surgery. 51:56.210 --> 51:57.970 And we didn't know if I'd ever walk again 51:57.970 --> 51:59.990 basically if I was going to be... 51:59.990 --> 52:00.750 We didn't know. 52:01.590 --> 52:03.930 But you know what? I had such peace 52:03.930 --> 52:06.270 because I opened a door 52:06.270 --> 52:08.330 over 20 years ago. 52:08.830 --> 52:09.430 Oh, wow. 52:10.030 --> 52:12.950 I didn't do it intentional. 52:12.950 --> 52:14.910 Yeah, we usually don't. 52:15.310 --> 52:16.970 I was thrown over 52:18.290 --> 52:19.970 about a 12 foot 52:19.970 --> 52:21.710 drop by a drunken man. 52:22.330 --> 52:23.690 But I landed on 52:23.690 --> 52:24.190 sand. 52:25.090 --> 52:25.730 So 52:26.750 --> 52:29.030 I survived that obviously 52:29.030 --> 52:30.990 but then the problem started. 52:31.590 --> 52:33.670 But you know, I had to own that. 52:33.870 --> 52:35.430 I mean I had to own it a while back 52:35.430 --> 52:37.170 but now the enemy has come at me. 52:37.270 --> 52:38.690 Basically right now 52:39.730 --> 52:41.390 I'm pretty much a miracle 52:42.890 --> 52:43.670 even though 52:43.670 --> 52:45.530 I have the cane but I'm walking. 52:46.490 --> 52:49.050 And I have bones missing. I have a gap. 52:49.290 --> 52:51.070 I have muscles that are gone. 52:51.350 --> 52:53.410 Now, you know what? To God be the glory 52:53.410 --> 52:55.490 that he loved me so much. 52:55.950 --> 52:57.490 So every single thing 52:57.490 --> 52:58.490 as I look back 52:59.210 --> 53:01.290 were things that I had to own 53:01.290 --> 53:02.310 when I saw it. 53:02.510 --> 53:04.750 I don't know if I didn't think that 53:05.170 --> 53:06.090 God was serious. 53:06.730 --> 53:09.030 I don't know if I thought I could kind of walk 53:09.030 --> 53:10.830 a little bit here and a little bit there. 53:10.970 --> 53:12.450 I mean I wasn't doing it intentionally 53:12.450 --> 53:13.770 but now with hindsight. 53:14.730 --> 53:16.610 And then I was thinking about the accident 53:16.610 --> 53:18.030 that we had a year ago. 53:19.170 --> 53:19.610 And 53:20.410 --> 53:22.690 don't like red light runners and don't like 53:22.690 --> 53:23.350 to get hit. 53:23.910 --> 53:25.350 But I couldn't figure out 53:26.190 --> 53:27.870 when we got out of the car 53:28.710 --> 53:30.910 I said, well God's not done with this yet. 53:31.590 --> 53:33.090 But can I say the one thing 53:33.090 --> 53:33.930 you told me, hun? 53:34.430 --> 53:35.210 Do I have permission? 53:35.210 --> 53:37.910 He said to me 53:37.910 --> 53:39.050 a while afterwards 53:39.050 --> 53:40.610 he said, I'm sorry, Sally. 53:40.770 --> 53:42.830 The Lord told me to go a different way tonight. 53:43.510 --> 53:44.030 Oh. 53:47.500 --> 53:49.340 And he said I didn't do it. 53:51.140 --> 53:51.540 Now 53:51.540 --> 53:53.840 I'm not trying to rat on you, honey. 53:54.080 --> 53:54.780 I don't... 53:54.780 --> 53:56.140 That's such a good example. 53:56.520 --> 53:58.180 I mean what I thought 53:59.760 --> 54:00.280 drats. 54:01.240 --> 54:01.940 You know 54:03.280 --> 54:04.640 but that obedience 54:05.220 --> 54:07.720 and then I'm gonna rat on him 54:07.720 --> 54:08.960 kind of a little bit again 54:08.960 --> 54:10.540 because when he fell 54:11.300 --> 54:12.420 and had this 54:13.580 --> 54:15.040 dislocation and this bad break 54:15.040 --> 54:16.140 I had told him 54:18.460 --> 54:19.420 that morning 54:19.420 --> 54:19.980 I said 54:21.600 --> 54:22.900 don't go up on the ladder. 54:24.420 --> 54:25.860 I said I'm concerned. 54:28.100 --> 54:29.600 I said don't do it. 54:32.340 --> 54:33.300 You know 54:33.300 --> 54:34.760 and I'm not trying to sound 54:34.760 --> 54:35.740 like a little white. 54:35.920 --> 54:38.140 I get it. God will tell us. 54:38.360 --> 54:39.420 He'll show us things to come. 54:39.540 --> 54:40.100 That's scriptural. 54:40.640 --> 54:43.020 So I just want to say that 54:43.020 --> 54:44.460 I opened the door. 54:45.900 --> 54:46.860 Not knowingly. 54:47.200 --> 54:49.340 No, it's rarely we do it knowingly. 54:49.360 --> 54:51.420 But it's very serious 54:51.420 --> 54:52.140 and 54:53.060 --> 54:54.460 at this point in time 54:54.460 --> 54:56.300 where the body of Christ is 54:56.300 --> 54:57.520 God is putting together 54:58.260 --> 54:58.520 people. 54:59.680 --> 55:01.480 We can't toy with this. 55:01.600 --> 55:02.800 I mean I know you know that 55:02.800 --> 55:04.860 but I have another question that goes back 55:04.860 --> 55:05.980 when you were talking about 55:05.980 --> 55:08.520 the tithing 55:08.520 --> 55:09.400 and the different things 55:10.020 --> 55:12.140 right away I started thinking about 55:13.040 --> 55:13.560 Calvinism 55:14.580 --> 55:15.620 versus Armenianism. 55:17.920 --> 55:18.860 And I thought 55:18.860 --> 55:21.460 when you are taught one way 55:22.320 --> 55:24.180 and you have that belief system 55:24.180 --> 55:26.320 and you are absolutely have blinders on 55:28.380 --> 55:30.180 how much of the church is locked 55:30.180 --> 55:31.420 into a belief system 55:32.340 --> 55:34.460 that has come down through the tradition 55:35.700 --> 55:37.860 and don't have any idea about 55:37.860 --> 55:38.800 so much of this. 55:39.240 --> 55:42.240 And you know it's interesting many times 55:42.240 --> 55:42.560 when 55:43.800 --> 55:45.520 you offer prayer 55:46.180 --> 55:47.960 for someone who's in a financial 55:47.960 --> 55:50.120 problem. You know I'm struggling here 55:50.120 --> 55:51.900 we could lose the house. I can't get a job 55:51.900 --> 55:53.640 whatever it is and they want prayer 55:54.100 --> 55:55.600 if you ask the question 55:55.600 --> 55:56.320 are you a tither? 55:57.600 --> 55:57.900 They're not. 55:59.400 --> 56:00.480 So they're under curse. 56:00.960 --> 56:03.060 Which takes me to this. Let me answer this 56:03.060 --> 56:05.020 and then we'll go to I think someone else had a question. 56:05.600 --> 56:08.260 This came in online. Do you 56:08.260 --> 56:09.580 have to give 10% 56:10.140 --> 56:11.440 what if you don't make 56:11.980 --> 56:13.600 that much that you can give 56:13.600 --> 56:14.160 10% 56:15.100 --> 56:17.240 Well that's the beauty about tithing. 56:18.700 --> 56:19.880 Tithing was designed 56:19.880 --> 56:20.900 for poor people. 56:22.780 --> 56:24.180 That's why God said 56:24.180 --> 56:25.400 test me 56:25.400 --> 56:26.580 in this. 56:27.180 --> 56:30.160 If you will tithe I will open the windows 56:30.160 --> 56:30.740 of heaven. 56:31.080 --> 56:33.940 This is Malachi 3. And I will pour you out 56:33.940 --> 56:36.000 such a blessing you won't be able to contain it. 56:36.640 --> 56:37.720 See tithing was meant 56:37.720 --> 56:38.720 for poor people. 56:39.720 --> 56:41.080 So to answer that question 56:41.080 --> 56:43.600 what if you can't afford it? Well that could be true right now. 56:44.160 --> 56:45.300 You know today 56:45.300 --> 56:47.740 you may not be able to afford it. You might be 56:47.740 --> 56:49.740 just barely hand to mouth. 56:50.760 --> 56:51.740 Can you afford 56:51.740 --> 56:52.480 a nickel a week? 56:53.980 --> 56:55.340 Can you afford a dime? 56:55.800 --> 56:56.580 Can you afford a dollar? 56:58.240 --> 56:58.380 Start 57:00.040 --> 57:01.260 right where you are 57:01.260 --> 57:02.580 and plant that seed. 57:03.260 --> 57:05.680 In Corinthians God gave a promise. 57:06.500 --> 57:07.760 He said I will 57:07.760 --> 57:09.000 give seed 57:09.660 --> 57:10.720 to the sower. 57:12.120 --> 57:13.440 Now if you know anything about farming 57:14.160 --> 57:15.340 if you plant 57:15.340 --> 57:17.100 one kernel of wheat 57:17.900 --> 57:19.440 you are going to end up 57:19.440 --> 57:21.480 with 20, 25. 57:23.460 --> 57:24.660 Now if you plant 57:25.340 --> 57:27.340 let's say you tithe on that 25 57:27.340 --> 57:29.220 and you plant two or three kernels 57:29.900 --> 57:31.440 now you are going to end up 57:31.440 --> 57:33.420 with 50, 75 kernels 57:33.420 --> 57:34.780 second crop. 57:35.680 --> 57:37.500 So now if you tithe on that 57:37.500 --> 57:38.680 and you plant 57:39.340 --> 57:40.400 seven eight seeds 57:41.110 --> 57:43.040 out of the 75, 80 kernels 57:43.880 --> 57:45.440 now you are going to end up 57:45.440 --> 57:46.260 within the hundreds. 57:48.160 --> 57:49.440 That's how it works. 57:51.520 --> 57:53.040 And it won't take long 57:53.040 --> 57:54.660 if you start with a nickel 57:54.660 --> 57:56.080 or a dime or a dollar 57:56.080 --> 57:58.560 God will give you the seed 57:59.360 --> 58:00.260 to sow. 58:00.760 --> 58:02.160 He will give you a raise 58:02.160 --> 58:03.660 He will give you a different job. 58:03.880 --> 58:05.360 He will find a way 58:05.360 --> 58:07.840 to give you the seed to sow. 58:08.640 --> 58:10.080 Don't eat your seed. 58:12.900 --> 58:13.340 Farmers 58:13.340 --> 58:14.560 have to hold on to a certain 58:14.560 --> 58:16.560 realm of seed so they can plant it 58:16.560 --> 58:18.200 because if they eat the whole 58:18.200 --> 58:18.640 crop 58:20.240 --> 58:22.060 they got nothing to plant next year. 58:22.580 --> 58:24.160 Don't eat your seed. Oh, we got 58:24.160 --> 58:26.600 15 bucks left over. Don't eat your seed. 58:28.700 --> 58:29.560 Plant more 58:30.740 --> 58:32.420 and let the cycle start. 58:32.840 --> 58:34.320 My answer to that is 58:34.320 --> 58:36.060 if you can't afford it don't try doing it 58:36.060 --> 58:37.940 because your faith won't be there to support it. 58:39.360 --> 58:40.520 We have to mingle 58:40.520 --> 58:41.660 faith with the promises. 58:42.340 --> 58:44.280 What can you believe you can plant 58:44.280 --> 58:45.360 and still live? Can you 58:45.940 --> 58:47.180 plant a buck a week and live? 58:48.020 --> 58:49.860 Then plant it and let's 58:49.860 --> 58:51.700 believe God multiplies that. 58:52.400 --> 58:53.920 It won't be long. You'll be able 58:53.920 --> 58:55.780 to plant 5 bucks. Oh, I can plant 58:55.780 --> 58:57.520 5 bucks now. I've got more income 58:57.520 --> 58:58.900 than plant your 5 bucks. 58:59.520 --> 59:01.340 And slowly you will work up 59:01.340 --> 59:03.920 and the time will come you'll be giving your tithe 59:03.920 --> 59:05.760 now you're in a position 59:05.760 --> 59:06.500 to really 59:07.560 --> 59:09.440 crop after crop after crop 59:09.440 --> 59:11.240 to watch this thing multiply. 59:12.140 --> 59:13.820 So don't get condemned. You don't have 59:13.820 --> 59:14.600 the money to do it. 59:16.580 --> 59:17.900 That's why tithing 59:17.900 --> 59:19.800 was made is for you. So I'll talk 59:19.800 --> 59:21.020 to the camera. It's made for 59:21.820 --> 59:23.360 the person who can't afford it. 59:24.000 --> 59:25.700 But don't feel like you have to go from 59:25.700 --> 59:27.780 zero to a tenth right away 59:27.780 --> 59:29.120 because your faith won't support that. 59:29.700 --> 59:31.960 You already told that to me 59:31.960 --> 59:33.580 when you said I can't afford to give 10%. 59:33.580 --> 59:35.300 You don't believe you can do it. So 59:35.300 --> 59:36.620 don't try doing it. 59:37.260 --> 59:38.980 What can you believe for? 59:40.240 --> 59:41.900 Start with that and do it 59:41.900 --> 59:43.920 consistently believing 59:43.920 --> 59:45.360 it will increase. 59:45.620 --> 59:46.960 You will be amazed. 59:47.360 --> 59:49.780 You will be amazed what God will do. 59:49.880 --> 59:51.180 Just go there with him. 59:51.680 --> 59:53.400 Let him prove himself. You'll be amazed. 59:53.740 --> 59:55.240 Was there anybody else who had a question? 59:55.440 --> 59:57.700 We're past time but we'll still answer questions. 59:57.880 --> 59:58.840 I just had a question 59:59.960 --> 01:00:01.660 in Psalm 139 01:00:01.660 --> 01:00:02.540 16. It says, 01:00:02.620 --> 01:00:04.740 your eyes saw my own unformed substance 01:00:04.740 --> 01:00:05.780 in your book 01:00:06.740 --> 01:00:08.680 all the days of my life were written 01:00:08.680 --> 01:00:10.080 before they even took shape. 01:00:10.540 --> 01:00:12.140 Is everybody guaranteed 01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:14.200 like 80 years 01:00:14.200 --> 01:00:16.980 or if they don't make it to 80 or 90 01:00:16.980 --> 01:00:18.840 then are they living under a curse? 01:00:19.900 --> 01:00:21.240 And I think 01:00:21.240 --> 01:00:23.100 of like Micah died 01:00:23.100 --> 01:00:24.280 when he was young. 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:26.900 Did he fulfill the years that God 01:00:26.900 --> 01:00:27.880 had written in his book? 01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:30.060 And so where's that? 01:00:32.500 --> 01:00:33.760 That's a good question. 01:00:37.020 --> 01:00:37.580 Again, 01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:40.500 this is how I'm going to answer that 01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:42.240 because we had that exact same question 01:00:42.240 --> 01:00:44.020 come because we were living in Colorado 01:00:44.020 --> 01:00:45.880 when the Columbine thing took place. 01:00:46.720 --> 01:00:48.480 And I believe her name was Rachel. 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:49.900 The girl that... 01:00:50.660 --> 01:00:51.480 Yep, Rachel Scott. 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:53.940 They found in her diary 01:00:53.940 --> 01:00:56.120 and different things after the fact 01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:57.880 she said 01:00:57.880 --> 01:00:59.020 she knew 01:00:59.020 --> 01:01:02.120 she wasn't going to become an old person. 01:01:02.640 --> 01:01:03.920 She was on earth 01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.620 to start something. She didn't know what it was. 01:01:07.300 --> 01:01:08.720 But it was going to be 01:01:08.720 --> 01:01:10.140 something that would help bring 01:01:10.140 --> 01:01:11.260 many people to Christ. 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:13.420 But she knew she would not live a full life. 01:01:13.940 --> 01:01:15.540 Okay, so was that a curse? No. 01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:18.520 Jesus didn't live 80 years old. 01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:19.160 Yep. 01:01:21.520 --> 01:01:22.040 Steven 01:01:22.040 --> 01:01:23.780 didn't live 80 years old. 01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:28.320 There are... 01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:29.120 I'm going to come down 01:01:29.120 --> 01:01:29.860 on this side. 01:01:31.080 --> 01:01:32.700 I am not the one 01:01:32.700 --> 01:01:34.400 in charge of what you're supposed 01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:35.220 to accomplish. 01:01:36.720 --> 01:01:38.580 Some people accomplish it 01:01:38.580 --> 01:01:39.640 in a short period of time. 01:01:39.640 --> 01:01:41.460 They're here for a short period of time 01:01:41.460 --> 01:01:43.240 to accomplish something. Like, for instance, 01:01:43.540 --> 01:01:45.760 I don't remember the name of the movie 01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:47.360 of the boy who 01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:49.380 saved the bus 01:01:49.380 --> 01:01:51.060 children from drowning. 01:01:51.980 --> 01:01:53.040 It's in a movie. 01:01:55.460 --> 01:01:56.980 They went off the road, 01:01:57.080 --> 01:01:58.760 they went in the water, went upside down. 01:01:59.140 --> 01:02:00.960 And he was able 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:02.480 to get them all out. 01:02:03.520 --> 01:02:04.980 But in the process 01:02:04.980 --> 01:02:05.940 he died. 01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:08.500 And 01:02:10.460 --> 01:02:11.040 somehow 01:02:11.040 --> 01:02:13.220 I believe he had told his parents 01:02:13.220 --> 01:02:14.960 or his mom. He said, 01:02:15.020 --> 01:02:16.980 I just have the feeling I'm going 01:02:16.980 --> 01:02:19.080 to die saving lives. That's why 01:02:19.080 --> 01:02:19.900 I'm on this earth. 01:02:21.680 --> 01:02:23.120 So who's to say, here you 01:02:23.120 --> 01:02:23.920 got a kid in his teens 01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:26.400 who gave his life 01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:29.040 for others. Who's to say that wasn't God's 01:02:29.040 --> 01:02:30.980 purpose? That was his whole purpose for being here. 01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:31.920 That moment. 01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:34.920 You can't say that. Well, that wasn't God. 01:02:35.640 --> 01:02:37.220 How do you know? How do I 01:02:37.220 --> 01:02:37.400 know? 01:02:39.380 --> 01:02:40.980 So what I look 01:02:40.980 --> 01:02:42.040 at is 01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:44.780 number one, 01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:47.220 everything 01:02:47.220 --> 01:02:49.040 is between the person and God. 01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:51.400 What I think really doesn't matter. 01:02:52.700 --> 01:02:53.280 If it's 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.340 not me, if it's somebody else, it's between 01:02:55.340 --> 01:02:57.220 them and God. When it comes right down to it, it's 01:02:57.220 --> 01:02:59.240 not my issue. It's between them and God. They don't serve 01:02:59.240 --> 01:03:00.000 me. They serve him. 01:03:01.200 --> 01:03:03.080 Number two, what has God been 01:03:03.080 --> 01:03:03.940 telling them? 01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:07.160 Jesus knew he was going to die. Jesus 01:03:07.160 --> 01:03:08.920 knew when he was going to die. He died at 01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:11.060 33, they think 33 years old. 01:03:12.160 --> 01:03:13.340 Well, he didn't live a long 01:03:13.340 --> 01:03:15.200 full life. He sure did. He fulfilled 01:03:15.200 --> 01:03:17.260 everything he was here for. 01:03:18.060 --> 01:03:19.220 Perfect example. 01:03:19.740 --> 01:03:21.440 I believe Stephen was the same thing. 01:03:22.140 --> 01:03:23.440 Another perfect example. 01:03:24.060 --> 01:03:25.360 The reason 01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.260 Stephen went down, 01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:29.180 the way he went down in my opinion, 01:03:29.940 --> 01:03:31.180 was to plant 01:03:31.180 --> 01:03:33.280 a seed in a man standing there named 01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:33.620 Saul, 01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:36.800 who later became Paul. 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.020 Because the 01:03:39.020 --> 01:03:41.180 close of Stephen was 01:03:41.180 --> 01:03:42.800 late at Saul's feet. 01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:45.120 Saul was overseeing this. 01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:46.580 And what happened with 01:03:46.580 --> 01:03:48.820 Stephen, when the glory of God came on 01:03:48.820 --> 01:03:50.820 him and his face shone, like that 01:03:50.820 --> 01:03:52.700 of an angel, and he opened 01:03:52.700 --> 01:03:54.800 up his eyes and saw into heaven and 01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:56.800 said, I see Jesus standing 01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:57.960 at the right hand of the Father. 01:03:59.580 --> 01:04:00.680 And Saul, 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:02.460 who is this staunch 01:04:02.460 --> 01:04:04.080 old hardliner, 01:04:04.580 --> 01:04:06.660 is watching something happen in 01:04:06.660 --> 01:04:08.740 front of him that he's never 01:04:08.740 --> 01:04:10.760 heard of before. Don't 01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:12.500 tell me the Holy Spirit didn't take that 01:04:12.500 --> 01:04:13.240 and work on him. 01:04:15.120 --> 01:04:16.860 He had questions 01:04:16.860 --> 01:04:19.060 coming out of that experience 01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:21.000 that led him 01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:21.660 into 01:04:22.780 --> 01:04:24.840 Saul, why are you persecuting me? 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:26.780 That question 01:04:26.780 --> 01:04:28.580 made sense to Saul. Why did that 01:04:28.580 --> 01:04:30.460 question, that was the first question Jesus said. 01:04:30.620 --> 01:04:32.460 Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? 01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:34.160 Why would that make sense to him? 01:04:34.680 --> 01:04:34.920 Yeah. 01:04:36.240 --> 01:04:38.120 Just go back to the Stephen thing. 01:04:38.120 --> 01:04:39.280 Besides there was probably others. 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:41.100 The one we know of is Stephen. 01:04:41.560 --> 01:04:43.640 Just go back and tie that into that situation. 01:04:44.540 --> 01:04:46.240 Stephen, I personally 01:04:46.240 --> 01:04:47.980 believe, died that way 01:04:48.500 --> 01:04:49.800 to open the door 01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:52.100 for the man who wrote 14 books 01:04:52.100 --> 01:04:52.960 out of the New Testament. 01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:55.840 So to go back to when you're praying 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.040 for somebody and you know 01:04:58.040 --> 01:04:59.340 like you're brought into that situation, 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.060 I sometimes will just pray, God, I 01:05:02.060 --> 01:05:03.860 just declare every day that you wrote 01:05:03.860 --> 01:05:05.480 in their book they're going to live. 01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:06.140 That's good. 01:05:06.520 --> 01:05:08.340 And that's what I'm going to stand in faithful 01:05:08.340 --> 01:05:10.100 because I don't even know God's ways 01:05:10.100 --> 01:05:12.380 necessarily, but just every day 01:05:12.380 --> 01:05:14.440 I'm going to agree with you what you wrote. 01:05:15.040 --> 01:05:16.560 And you're setting your faith to that 01:05:16.560 --> 01:05:18.160 and what they do with their faith 01:05:18.160 --> 01:05:20.380 isn't your issue, but that way 01:05:20.380 --> 01:05:21.920 yeah, no, I think that's great. 01:05:22.560 --> 01:05:23.940 I'm going to stand on your word. 01:05:25.460 --> 01:05:26.960 And if they leave today 01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:28.460 and it was their day, well, so be it. 01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:30.960 If it wasn't, well, not my issue. 01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:32.380 I'm believing God. 01:05:33.140 --> 01:05:34.440 Good. Anybody else got anything? 01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:36.700 One in the back. We'll call this the last one. 01:05:39.660 --> 01:05:41.160 Well, I'm kind of glad I'm last 01:05:41.160 --> 01:05:42.900 because you answered a lot of questions, 01:05:43.060 --> 01:05:44.920 but you know, you talking about 01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:46.600 your tripping and your car accident 01:05:46.600 --> 01:05:48.400 and this is all hypothetical 01:05:48.900 --> 01:05:50.780 but a guy could wonder like 01:05:50.780 --> 01:05:52.480 why are you up there then? 01:05:52.560 --> 01:05:54.460 Because obviously you've got something going on. 01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:56.380 But my feeling is 01:05:59.820 --> 01:06:01.120 like you can fall 01:06:01.120 --> 01:06:02.520 into it like car accidents. 01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:05.240 I mean, somebody pulls out in front of you 01:06:05.240 --> 01:06:07.120 and you curse them. You just open the door. 01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:08.920 Yep. Just that instant. 01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:10.780 You can repent for it, 01:06:10.780 --> 01:06:13.120 but I mean, it happens. It can happen. 01:06:13.520 --> 01:06:14.860 And the other thing is 01:06:15.940 --> 01:06:17.540 kind of lost my train of thought here. 01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:26.740 Lost my train of thought. Let me answer your question. 01:06:27.180 --> 01:06:29.360 Excellent question. Really good question. 01:06:31.200 --> 01:06:32.760 Obviously, I'm not perfect. 01:06:33.200 --> 01:06:35.220 So what gives me the right to be up here? 01:06:36.620 --> 01:06:38.020 This is not my choice. 01:06:40.500 --> 01:06:42.120 I didn't choose to be up here. 01:06:42.380 --> 01:06:44.160 And I wasn't criticizing. No, I get it. 01:06:44.200 --> 01:06:46.200 But it's a good question and I want to apply it. 01:06:46.240 --> 01:06:47.180 That's a really good question. 01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:50.700 Because we tend to put people on pedestals 01:06:51.700 --> 01:06:53.000 thinking they're without fault. 01:06:54.100 --> 01:06:55.460 I'm human like everybody else. 01:06:56.540 --> 01:06:58.840 I have areas in my life that aren't perfect yet. 01:06:59.200 --> 01:07:00.880 I mean, I'll be the first one to admit that. 01:07:03.720 --> 01:07:04.600 The reason... 01:07:04.600 --> 01:07:06.840 Okay, so now let's take it off of me. 01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:07.800 The reason I'm here 01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.360 is because God called me to be a minister. 01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:12.640 Which means I'm going to answer. 01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.040 So I got to do what he asked me to do. 01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:17.400 And I got to try to do it the best I can do it. 01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:19.820 That is why I'm here. 01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:22.620 So it's by his grace, his mercy. 01:07:22.820 --> 01:07:24.080 He just follows through. 01:07:24.460 --> 01:07:26.340 Let's go to the example that Sally gave. 01:07:27.220 --> 01:07:28.540 What gives you the right 01:07:28.540 --> 01:07:30.900 to be healed after you know 01:07:30.900 --> 01:07:31.720 you messed it up? 01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:34.580 Same thing gives me the right to be here. 01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:35.960 God made a promise to you 01:07:36.560 --> 01:07:37.920 2,000 years ago 01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:40.700 that if by faith 01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:42.580 you stand strong 01:07:43.520 --> 01:07:44.640 He's going to heal you. 01:07:45.560 --> 01:07:47.480 Has nothing to do with your value 01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:49.600 or worth of because you're so good. 01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:51.380 You're earning it. 01:07:51.460 --> 01:07:52.860 You deserve to be healed Sally. 01:07:53.020 --> 01:07:54.220 You're such a righteous lady. 01:07:55.120 --> 01:07:56.800 Has nothing to do with that. 01:07:57.620 --> 01:07:59.000 Has to do with 01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:00.600 God made a promise to you. 01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:03.880 That help answer the question? 01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:06.300 No, I was just making a comment. 01:08:06.540 --> 01:08:08.900 But it's really good because people think that way. 01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:10.860 And the other thing I was going to say is 01:08:10.860 --> 01:08:12.340 you got in that accident 01:08:12.340 --> 01:08:15.120 I know people like you were talking about 01:08:15.120 --> 01:08:16.960 you're in each things happen 01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:18.700 then people are angry with God. 01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:20.380 So is that Satan's little 01:08:20.780 --> 01:08:23.020 let's see what we can do here 01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:24.680 and then see if we can 01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:26.160 turn people against God. 01:08:26.160 --> 01:08:29.020 Boy, you let someone stay angry at God. 01:08:29.320 --> 01:08:30.780 You talk about an open door. 01:08:31.420 --> 01:08:32.840 You know, talk about 01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:34.580 live in the wrong flow 01:08:34.580 --> 01:08:36.700 stand there shaking your fist at God. 01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:39.160 That's just like 01:08:39.160 --> 01:08:40.680 the father of that flow. 01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:41.440 What did he do? 01:08:44.300 --> 01:08:45.580 Boy, yeah. 01:08:46.040 --> 01:08:48.500 So that's it's not so much 01:08:48.500 --> 01:08:50.200 Satan making them do that. 01:08:51.020 --> 01:08:52.220 They're doing that. 01:08:52.300 --> 01:08:53.560 They're angry with God there. 01:08:55.260 --> 01:08:56.200 But boy 01:08:56.200 --> 01:08:58.000 will he jump on their bandwagon 01:08:58.000 --> 01:08:59.300 to help them do that 01:08:59.300 --> 01:09:01.600 and give them every reason 01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:03.380 and thought under the sun 01:09:03.380 --> 01:09:05.880 why God is so mean and unfair 01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:07.240 and not loving and 01:09:07.240 --> 01:09:08.300 I hate you. 01:09:09.040 --> 01:09:11.760 Oh, he'll just feed that. 01:09:12.060 --> 01:09:13.480 Yeah, he'll just feed that 01:09:13.480 --> 01:09:16.060 but he didn't make him do it. 01:09:17.540 --> 01:09:17.820 It's 01:09:18.100 --> 01:09:19.860 they're choosing to live over there 01:09:19.860 --> 01:09:21.420 and it's going to bring curses into their life. 01:09:21.420 --> 01:09:23.180 But they could with the same will 01:09:23.180 --> 01:09:25.040 choose to come over here and ask for forgiveness 01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:26.260 and repent and move over here 01:09:27.060 --> 01:09:28.120 and move to blessings. 01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:30.600 But you're going to have to let go of the anger. 01:09:33.280 --> 01:09:35.020 You got a testimony yet on that? 01:09:35.400 --> 01:09:36.200 Go ahead and give it to her. 01:09:36.360 --> 01:09:37.740 We'll hear the testimony. 01:09:39.200 --> 01:09:41.320 Turn the mic off. We'll wait for it to come back on. 01:09:45.360 --> 01:09:46.740 When my baby died 01:09:47.300 --> 01:09:48.920 I had prayed and prayed 01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:50.760 that if it would be God's will 01:09:51.480 --> 01:09:52.640 to heal her 01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:54.920 then please heal her because we were going to a church 01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:56.060 that that's how they prayed. 01:09:56.320 --> 01:09:58.800 If it be your will, then later on I found out 01:09:58.800 --> 01:09:59.640 that it was his will. 01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:02.380 When he took her home 01:10:02.380 --> 01:10:03.480 I was mad at God. 01:10:04.340 --> 01:10:06.980 I screamed and I yelled at him 01:10:06.980 --> 01:10:08.580 and I didn't curse 01:10:08.580 --> 01:10:10.020 at him with cuss words 01:10:10.020 --> 01:10:12.880 but I might as well have because I was so mad 01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:14.660 at him and I had 01:10:14.660 --> 01:10:16.820 a nervous breakdown that almost took my life 01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:18.400 and 01:10:18.400 --> 01:10:19.740 God orchestrated 01:10:19.740 --> 01:10:21.760 a church in Aurora, Colorado 01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:24.860 that were having a seminar 01:10:24.860 --> 01:10:26.200 of ladies in Colorado 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:28.060 Springs in Colorado 01:10:28.540 --> 01:10:31.040 with a speaker from Longmont, Colorado 01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:33.520 and I lived in Johnstown, Colorado 01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:35.040 it was like a diamond shape 01:10:35.040 --> 01:10:36.620 and God said 01:10:36.620 --> 01:10:38.800 he orchestrated that whole thing 01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:41.220 so that I could be healed 01:10:41.220 --> 01:10:42.360 of my anger 01:10:42.360 --> 01:10:43.260 towards him. 01:10:43.260 --> 01:10:45.460 And you found your healing in that? 01:10:45.740 --> 01:10:47.560 I found my healing that very night 01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:49.480 and for the first time in months 01:10:49.480 --> 01:10:50.660 I laughed 01:10:51.340 --> 01:10:52.920 and I hadn't laughed 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:54.180 since Robin died. 01:10:55.380 --> 01:10:57.300 So God is merciful 01:10:57.300 --> 01:10:59.340 even when you're angry at him. 01:10:59.940 --> 01:11:00.540 Oh, yeah. 01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.120 That's the heart of God. 01:11:02.480 --> 01:11:04.300 Merciful, loving, forgiving. 01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:06.220 Forgiving sin to 01:11:06.220 --> 01:11:08.180 how does it say, to generations. 01:11:08.540 --> 01:11:09.680 He'd just forgive it. 01:11:10.240 --> 01:11:11.680 That's God. That's the God. 01:11:11.820 --> 01:11:12.220 I know. 01:11:14.340 --> 01:11:16.000 But yeah, see the wild part is 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.900 your anger got you in the wrong flow. 01:11:19.140 --> 01:11:20.080 In that flow 01:11:20.080 --> 01:11:20.940 there is no peace. 01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:22.780 There's no rest. 01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:25.080 Which wore you down physically 01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:27.180 probably had some spiritual help. 01:11:27.900 --> 01:11:29.680 Nervous breakdown. Nervous breakdown is not 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:30.520 a blessing of God. 01:11:31.700 --> 01:11:33.860 There's just no way anybody's going to convince me 01:11:33.860 --> 01:11:35.380 a nervous breakdown is a blessing. 01:11:36.220 --> 01:11:37.860 It's flowing. It's been in the wrong 01:11:37.860 --> 01:11:38.100 flow. 01:11:39.160 --> 01:11:41.280 But God is so merciful, so gracious. 01:11:42.260 --> 01:11:43.740 Even when we're wrong 01:11:44.820 --> 01:11:45.900 He said it this way. 01:11:46.020 --> 01:11:47.740 Even when we're faith less 01:11:49.080 --> 01:11:49.840 He's faithful. 01:11:50.620 --> 01:11:51.880 And He will do everything 01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:54.220 He can to walk us back out. That's the God I know. 01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:55.880 It's not the God who's 01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:58.220 standing there with a club waiting for an opportunity 01:11:58.220 --> 01:11:59.060 to curse us. 01:11:59.480 --> 01:12:02.320 And that's what the church thinks. That's why they don't like to think about it. 01:12:03.040 --> 01:12:03.760 It's like God's just 01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:06.520 waiting for an opportunity to curse me. And as soon as I get out of the line 01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:08.120 He's an angry God. 01:12:09.100 --> 01:12:10.460 Now you don't know God. 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:13.300 That's the God I know. 01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:16.160 The merciful, loving, forgiving 01:12:16.160 --> 01:12:18.420 just the one we read about here 01:12:18.420 --> 01:12:19.280 in Deuteronomy 30. 01:12:19.500 --> 01:12:21.100 Even if you're living in a curse 01:12:21.100 --> 01:12:23.560 if you will come back 01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:24.200 to me 01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:27.460 I will gather you 01:12:27.460 --> 01:12:29.220 to myself and bless 01:12:29.220 --> 01:12:29.820 you. 01:12:31.700 --> 01:12:33.140 That's the character of God.