We worship you. We worship you. We submit ourselves to you, offering ourselves for whatever you desire, whatever you want. We'll follow you, which is our worship. We worship you.
Lord, open our hearts and minds for tonight. Help us to follow the veins you want followed and deal with the issues and the items that you want touched. Give us wisdom and direction and Jesus' name. Amen.
Amen. You can be seated. Tonight we might do it a little different. We might have questions and answers as we go because we've got some subtopics.
And if I jump too many topics, then a lot of times you lose the questions from the earlier ones. So we might just interject it as we go.
And the one big starting point we're going to start with, for those of you who are live streaming, if you did not watch last week's Q&A session, I'll bring you up to speed.
The main topic we got going on, which we're going to use as kind of a jump off tonight, is the thought of accidents or any sickness, anything like that. We do up mostly on accidents.
Is it actually a blessing, a curse, or is it neutral to have an accident? So we talked about that some. We're going to pick up on that thought again tonight. So that's why we're going to dwell on it some.
And let me also say, in an effort to cover as much material as we can so we don't forget some obvious things.
If you get questions, shoot them into me. If you get topics you want covered concerning the demonic realm, right now we're kind of stuck in blessings and curses, but anything outside of that, shoot it in.
Let me know what it is. If you're watching online, text it in, whatever, and we'll try to incorporate it into the series.
We finished last week by talking about the concept of everything is either a blessing or a curse. There's no middle road.
Either, and remember what... let's do a little review just to have fun. What does it mean? What does curse mean?
How would you describe curse? What does curse mean? We're under the flow of the kingdom of darkness or Satan. What does blessing mean?
I want you to be easy now. We're under the flow of the kingdom of God.
And again, I really want this emphasized. A curse is not something that randomly jumps on you.
And you had nothing to do with it and you know, you're living your life for God and all of a sudden this curse comes out of the alley and just smacks you, grabs you and destroys your life.
That is not how it works. And tonight we should get into deeper on really explaining that. It just doesn't work that way.
But we really need to make a decision on this first concept and we're going to apply it again to accidents tonight because I want to really emphasize this.
Most Christians believe there is a middle of the road that's neither good or evil. It's neither one. It's just in the middle.
And we drop a bunch of things into that. And the problem with that is number one, it's not scriptural.
I can't find anything in scripture that says some things are the kingdom of darkness, some things are the kingdom of God, and then some things are from neither one.
They just are. I can't find that in scripture. So number one, it's not scriptural. But when we think that way, it determines how we're going to measure our response to it.
Remember Jesus said, be careful how you hear because the way you hear, you will measure it. If we think something is neutral, we don't measure it as good or evil and attach to it accordingly.
Like for instance, if we think that getting the flu, everybody gets the flu. It's just a neutral thing. Christians get it. Non-Christians get it.
It's not necessarily of the flow of Satan. And it's not necessarily the flow of God. It's just one of those things.
Well, you know how you handle that with your faith, then? You don't. You do nothing about it. I mean, you got the flu.
Well, everybody gets the flu. Just get over it. Go to the doctor or whatever.
So if we don't divide some of this out, we're going to handicap our faith. And this is where we came off of. This was on last week's PowerPoint also.
Robert Young from Young's Concordance, he said, there is no such thing as a sickness accident that is from God, sickness or accident.
It's all traced back to a curse somehow. There's no middle ground.
However, by faith, we can live above everything that is of the demonic realm.
So let's go back to... let's go to the accident thing. Let's use this as an example.
Falling down in the ice. Good thing or bad thing?
You fall down, you break your arm, you break your leg, you break your ankle.
Consider that a blessing?
Is it... do you mean if somebody falls on the ice? This is somehow a flow of the devil?
See, if it's not a blessing and it's not the devil, what is it?
Is there such a thing as not a blessing and not the devil?
Now everybody's going to have to figure this out for themselves. You're going to have to measure this.
But for me, if I was going to measure this, this how I'd measure this.
Of course in Adam and Eve's time, they did not have ice, because the earth was a different system back then.
But in Adam and Eve's time, they were living in perfection.
Put the thought in your mind. I wonder if Adam could have fallen on ice and broke his leg.
I wonder if Adam could have gotten the flu.
I wonder if Adam would have ended up with heart disease.
See, all these things that subtract from us, we have to categorize them or we won't use our faith on them.
So let's follow that first one.
If you take falling down on the ice to its lowest level, and this is not a pun or a play on words, but it's part of the fall.
Falling down on ice is part of the fall. It's part of the fall of Adam and Eve.
Because anything that injures, anything that hurts, anything that damages or destroys us was never intended by God.
There's nothing in Scripture you can find that God intended that.
So, it's the result of sin entering the human race.
That's why we had, not last week, but the week before, we had to look at where did these two flows come from?
The flow of God and blessing and righteousness and prosperity and that whole thing.
And the flow of the kingdom of darkness, sickness, death, poverty, that whole thing.
We had to trace them back to where did they come from?
Because once Adam and Eve let the pig out of the cage, so to speak, and the flow of evil was now available to the human race, we now can go in either one.
And we can do it ignorantly. We don't even have to make the choice.
We can do it ignorantly and go into it and we'll see how that happens.
But it's a result of the overall sin.
So is it a curse that we can break?
So we'll never fall.
I've got no up there. I'm not sure that's right. I'm just asking it as a question.
Can you, by faith, believe that for the rest of your life, you will never fall again?
No, we're not ready for questions and answers yet.
So going with that, are we destined to fall down on the ice or fall anywhere?
There's no choice. At some point, you will fall. You're destined to fall. You're going to break something. It's just the way it is.
No.
No.
So here we are again, looking at the promises of salvation and our faith.
Our salvation, which the Greek word for salvation is sozo, promises that we can walk or live in safety, physical walking is part of it.
So just to come from this perspective, if we can faith our way or believe our way beyond it, it has to be of the demonic realm.
Right? If we can believe beyond it.
So, and I want to ask for a show of hands, but this year it's been really icy.
And it was last week. I made my proclamation and declaration again.
I will never fall on the ice and hurt myself. In the name of Jesus, I refuse that.
Because see, if it's of the cursed realm, I have the right to do that. I have the right to say no to it and say, no, I'm not going to do that.
If it's in the neutral realm, stuff happens.
I don't know. Everybody's going to fall sooner or later. See, we'll never apply our faith to it if we see it that way.
But if we see it as, you know what, this started with Adam and Eve and everything getting thrown off and into a tilt here.
And we're living in this. And we will live in this fallen creation as long as we're here.
I don't think we're going to get out of it because the fallen creation won't change till after the millennium.
So we're stuck with it.
As a result, we can either go with it and call it normal or we can stand against it and go with God's flow and call that, that's not of God.
That's demonic. That's of the kingdom of darkness, whatever. It's not of God.
Depending upon how we look at it, we'll determine how we handle what we call curses in our lives, which are really, we're just over in the flow of the kingdom of darkness and maybe not even chose it.
Just not choosing. What does Scripture say? My people perish for lack of knowledge or because of ignorance.
Just not knowing, you know what, I can live above hitting a deer with my car. I never have to.
But I'll tell you this, it can take faith.
But now if we come from the direction of, well, everybody hits a deer sooner or later, I'll hit a deer. I know I will. I mean, everybody hits it. Guess what?
Chances are good. You're in that flow. You're in that thinking you just submitted yourself to, yeah, sooner or later, I'll, I'll, yeah.
It'll happen.
Was that a curse?
Yeah, it's the flow you submitted yourself to.
That's all the curse is, is you submitted yourself to the wrong flow or somehow the wrong flow got on you.
And maybe you didn't even know better to get out from underneath it.
We have been saved from what? What does that mean? Well, John 3.16, I mean, it's a simple verse.
We all know it. Last phrase there, but that the world through him might be saved.
That's why Jesus came so we could be saved. The word sozo.
It's a means second line.
To be safe or to save that is deliver or protect.
So apply that to ice.
Jesus came to save us and to protect us and to deliver us. Keep us safe.
Well, if you're falling in the ice and getting a concussion, you're not safe, are you?
Falling in the ice and whack your shoulder out and tear your rotator cuff.
What did he save you of?
Well, everybody falls in the ice. If you approach it that way, it'll come on you and then you'll damage your body and say, well, it's normal.
It happens to everybody.
That's why we have to erase the middle ground. There's no middle ground. This is either God or this is of the kingdom of darkness.
There's two flows ever since Adam and Eve sinned. There's two flows in the world. We can choose which one we want to get under.
And sometimes we make that choice just because we don't choose this one. We end up in that one.
Follow me.
Okay, because it's really important we get that.
That's why to live overcomingly or victoriously, it's necessary to do a few basic things.
Number one, we have to walk and live by faith.
If we don't declare where our life's going, if we take the theology or the doctrine of whatever the Lord's will is, whatever happens, must be the Lord's will, you take that, you're going to get beat bloody.
We need to declare, am I going to live in blessing or am I going to live in curse? Deuteronomy 30, God laid him out and he said, choose blessing. We choose what we're going to live in.
Right? Which flow we're going to be under?
So we got to walk by faith and we got to live by the Spirit. He leads us.
This was extremely obvious last week during the question and answer time.
Because we got talking about accidents, we got talking about accidents people have been in, and numerous people confirmed what I've always felt.
A lot of the times there is a trap set for us.
And we're not listening to the Spirit, we're just living our life.
And we fall right into the trap where if we'd have listened to the Holy Spirit, he'd have guided us around it.
The trap is under the flow of the demonic side.
Following the Holy Spirit is under the flow of God's side.
We have to choose.
And many times Christians end up in bad situations because they make bad decisions.
Because we're not listening to the Spirit.
We're not applying faith.
So, let's follow this just for a bit.
So what if something bad happens?
And I've got a lot of slides here because I wanted this in such a way that someone can go back and just go through the slides and it really tells them what we've talked about.
What if something bad happens?
Number one, we don't have to blame anybody.
I mean, we're not going to bat a thousand here.
We're going to miss a few that get thrown at us.
Well, it's your fault.
No, don't don't get into the blame game.
We don't have to take the perspective.
Someone has failed and now it's their fault and we wouldn't have been for them.
We wouldn't be in this position.
That is, it's a very negative performance based viewpoint.
And it actually comes out of pride and shame.
The whole blame game thing comes out of pride and shame.
Because I don't want to be at fault because I'll be ashamed.
Therefore, I'll posture myself above you, which is one of the definitions of pride and make you at fault.
See, it's your fault.
I didn't do this.
I did it right.
The roots of that is in shame.
I mean, in pride, the trying to push somebody else down is I don't want to be ashamed.
So I'm going to blame it on them.
We're in a battle.
We don't always hit the target.
So if something bad happens, believe for it to be restored or fixed.
Let's back.
There should be permission.
Yeah, let's go with that one first.
There should be permission.
No condemnation for a mistake, a failure.
He shouldn't be blaming somebody.
We can't always get it perfect.
God knows that he doesn't accept.
God knows that and he doesn't expect.
That should be expect, not accept.
That's a typo.
He doesn't expect perfection and neither should we.
Again, religious and shame and that kind of thing does that.
But we're in a battle.
There's the one that skipped that one.
That was the one I was on.
We're in a battle.
We don't always hit the target.
That's okay.
God never expected you to be perfect.
Once you're saved, you're going to do everything right.
He never expected it.
He still doesn't expect it.
So if he knows we're going to fail and he says it,
when you sin, confess your sin, you'll be forgiven.
If he knows that, why is it not okay when someone misses it?
See, that's religion.
Somebody messes up.
That should be okay.
What are you going to do with it now?
Pick up.
Let's get going.
We can't lay down and die.
But that's where the church crucifies its own.
We attack our own people because we actually believe
two different things.
We know God doesn't expect us to be perfect,
but when someone fails, we crucify him.
See, that's not right.
That we either need to get in or get out.
If we expect everybody to be perfect,
then we need to be expecting ourselves to be perfect,
which we know we can't.
So then it should be okay if somebody messes up.
There shouldn't be condemnation.
There shouldn't be ridicule.
There shouldn't be judgment.
They shouldn't be put down.
Right?
I know that's a big thought,
but it's hard for Christians to say,
oh, I was going after this and I didn't make it.
That's okay.
Oh, it's not okay.
We're supposed to be conquerors in Christ.
You never miss it.
You never mess up.
It should be okay.
Just don't quit there.
Go back at it again.
Pick the bad up, swing again.
Go for it again.
And whatever got messed up,
believe for it to be restored, healed and fixed.
See, this is one.
That top one is one that got into the faith movement.
And you were never allowed to admit you missed something
because now you were less than everybody else.
You had not enough faith or not strong enough faith
or no faith.
Therefore, people would never get real with each other.
They could have a horrible week
and they would try to keep the whole thing a secret.
Something could fall apart in their life.
They try to keep it a secret.
They don't want to let the people in the church know
because now they're going to be labeled
as having less faith,
not strong enough, not spiritual enough.
Somehow, because it's not okay
to miss anything.
And see, that's just wrong.
It puts us in a position where
we're embarrassed to ask church people for help.
So you miss something.
So something happens and you trip
and you fall and you break your arm.
You know what?
It's not what I wanted.
But, it's okay.
Yeah, was it God? No.
Was it blessing? No.
Somehow, I got over into the flow
that there was a trap laid for me
and I fell right into it.
But that's okay
because God doesn't expect me to bat a thousand.
He knows I'm going to miss some.
That's why he offers healing and restoration and fixing.
So, once I broke my arm,
now I can either go into condemnation
and feel bad and cry in my oatmeal
and oh, why did this happen
and get angry? God and shook my fist
and this, that and the other.
Or I can say, you know what?
It's okay.
Somehow, I missed it.
But, now I'm not going to keep missing it.
Now, I'm going to believe
that this thing comes back together.
There will be no arthritis.
There will be no after effects.
This thing will never bother me again.
It will heal perfectly.
There'll be shift back over
and turn the faith back on.
The main thing I'm after is the Christian's attitude
where we get that holier than thou thing.
Because you can't help each other
if someone's in the wrong flow and they get hit.
If we got that holier than thou thing
and well, I could have told you blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You're not going to help that person at that point.
We all have to understand
stuff's going to happen. Doesn't mean
it was God or a neutral thing.
No, it wasn't God.
But now we've got to pick it up and go forward.
There should be permission,
no condemnation for a mistake or a failure.
See, that just grinds on the religious spirit.
Just that statement grinds.
You're going to give permission
for mistakes and failures? Yes, I am.
Show me in Scripture where Jesus
or the writers, Peter, Paul, James,
show me in Scripture where they didn't give permission.
See, if you don't give permission for a failure
you have no road back.
You fail, you're out.
There's no way back.
Because I never said you could fail.
God knows we're going to fail.
That's why Scripture is written from the perspective
of he will heal us, he will restore us,
welcome the sinner back in on and on and on.
It's a restorative gospel.
It's not legalism.
You get it perfect or you're going to be less than us.
We're going to label you.
You will be known the rest of your life
as the person who failed.
That's arrogance.
That ain't God.
There should be permission, no condemnation
for a mistake or failure.
Now we don't do it intentionally.
It's why it's called a mistake or a failure.
But when it happens, it's okay.
I've had some too.
You know the best thing we can say to someone
who messes up is,
it's all right.
Ain't that big a deal.
I've messed up too.
Let's just get up and keep walking.
Rather than,
now we're going to make you pay
because you messed up.
You ain't going to forget it.
We're going to dangle it in front of you
till you grovel.
Then maybe we'll let go of it.
But if years down the road,
we need it.
We're going to remember.
Yeah, I remember times when you did
things messed up too.
So don't be telling me what to do.
It's just plain and arrogant, prideful posture.
Rather than,
we've all sinned and fallen short of the glory.
Surprise, surprise.
That's not a past statement.
Do you know that Jesus died for your future sins?
He died for all of them.
It's an attitude so we can help each other.
We can't always get it perfect.
God knows and he doesn't expect perfection.
Neither should we.
Our goal, just follow the Spirit
and live according to the Spirit
and claim the blessing and live life.
It's too easy to go the other direction.
Follow the Spirit.
His job is to lead us.
His job is to guide us.
One of the reasons Jesus never fell down
and broke his leg.
One of the reasons Jesus,
there's no record that he ever got the flu.
None of this stuff touched him.
There's two basic reasons for it.
One is Jesus followed the Spirit.
It says he said nothing except he knew the Father told him to say it.
And he did nothing except he saw the Father do it.
Everything he did was led by the Spirit.
That's how you stay in this flow.
Because the Holy Spirit will try to keep us out of this.
But if we're not paying attention,
we're going to end up over there.
That's one of the big things.
The second one is coming is Jesus was not in sin.
He had no sin.
But going with the first one, Jesus lived by and stayed in step with the Spirit.
That's why he was able to say Satan couldn't touch him.
It's one of the reasons.
Now we don't always succeed with walking in the Spirit,
but if we will work on it, we'll get better at it.
Here's the problem.
The average Christian goes through days, weeks, months, even years.
We make our own decisions rarely hearing from him
without ever asking what we should do or if we should do it.
When we do hear, we often ignore the promptings he gives to us
and the traps are laid for us and we fall right into.
And it can be so simple as,
should I go to Walmart or shouldn't I?
How many people as Christians even ask that question?
Should we go there now or shouldn't we?
And get an answer.
But see, we're so poor at hearing God's voice.
We'd never ask that question because we'd never go anywhere
because, well, I can't hear God's voice.
Well, that's a whole different problem.
That needs to be fixed.
Because if we can't hear his voice, how is he going to steer us
around the trap that's waiting for us?
So if we should go to Walmart, which way should we go?
Do we ever stop and feel in our spirit,
should I go that way or should I go a different way?
What feels right?
That's being led by the spirit.
So I'm going to town and I can either follow six east
and come in the north side of Cambridge
or I can run down one and follow 95 in.
What if there's a trap waiting for me down one?
And I come to that stop sign.
What's the Holy Spirit going to try to prompt me to do?
Go the other way.
If I am not asking, if I'm not paying attention,
if life is all about what I want to do,
I will never ask.
If my habit pattern is to go that way,
I'll just go that way.
And I'll fall right into the trap.
For instance, yesterday,
I had to take care of some business in town
and I was ready to come home
and I turned right.
I was on this side of town.
I turned right to go back into town
rather than turning left on 95 to come home.
I turned right and I'm going about a block
and I'm going, what am I doing?
Why did I turn right?
So I asked.
I said, why did I turn right?
I know I'm going home.
I should have turned left.
I was coming from the south
and I should have turned left.
I turned right.
So I asked, why did I...
I didn't just complain.
No, you turned right.
What's wrong with you?
I actually asked,
why did I turn right and not left?
Because I know I should have turned left.
Why did I turn right?
And he answered me.
You know what he said?
He said, because where you're going,
you need to go a little bit later
than if you'd have turned left.
What difference does that make?
Could be a deer smack.
Right.
And that extra minute to get around the block
could be car accident.
Could be anything.
But if we'll culture,
we're trying to live by the spirit,
not just do our own thing
and fall into the trap.
And I'll throw this in here.
If we haven't overcome our fear issues,
what we're talking about now is likely
going to be hard for you because
we're going to start freaking out
because of our own fear.
Oh, that means that anytime
I could get under the wrong floor.
Don't you have any faith?
Don't you trust God?
Don't you believe God?
See, you can't discount...
Well, I just won't think about that
and I'm just going to live my life.
Well, there we go.
Because if I get thinking about it,
I'll get afraid.
Your problem then is fear.
Let everything else go
and get over your fear
because your fear is crippling you
from hearing God and doing what you need to do in life.
Take the first thing
and deal with it.
And that's for many reasons
why a lot of Christians
don't live overcoming lean victoriously
because the actual subject
we're talking about
causes them anxiety.
Do you mean
if I fall down in the ice,
a devil threw me down?
No, I never said that.
Do you mean
if you fall down in the ice,
that was God's best for you?
Well, no.
Do you ever speak out,
pray, declare
about falling down the ice,
about hitting deer,
about your car breaking down?
You know, stuff gets old.
Sooner or later, it quits working.
It needs fixing.
Do you ever declare anything about your car
in regard to that?
Because if you don't,
you're not using your faith.
Because here is this flow.
When a car breaks down,
it's going to be the most inopportune time
you're going to have to get to an appointment.
You won't be able to get there.
You're traveling.
You're someplace where a mechanic's
going to just take advantage of you.
I mean, there's all these things
that go bad in this flow.
And then there's
this flow of sooner or later
something will go bad.
But I'm going to declare when
and how that's going to happen.
And it will obey me.
I can give you an example just from last fall
when we went on vacation.
All the way out there.
Truck ran great.
Everything's good.
Get close to the black hills.
I'm smelling a little bit of antifreeze.
Like what? What's that?
Hmm. Well, whatever.
It's not heating or anything.
I stopped and looked. Couldn't see anything.
So we get there.
The next day
try to start it.
It wouldn't start.
Battery was dead. It's got two batteries.
One of the batteries was dead.
What if that would have happened
on the road
at a filling station?
You say you actually
declare when a battery will go dead?
Yes, I do.
It will always go dead
when it's the easiest
for me to fix.
Always.
Period.
I call that over my vehicles.
I'll walk by. I'm going to say you're blessed.
And when you do,
something does wear out and break.
It will happen at the place and the time
where it's convenient for me.
Yeah. Yeah.
I am intentionally pulling myself
over to this side.
Okay.
So,
I've got to lift the hood
because it's not starting.
Well, now I notice that my antifreeze is down a little bit.
It's like, hmm,
I got to be losing antifreeze someplace.
Well, long story short,
they got a Y
where it comes out of the radiator
and it goes two different directions
and that Y is plastic.
And it develops a hairline crack
and then just seeps and evaporates.
It never really drips or runs.
It just seeps and evaporates until all of a sudden
it gets high pressure and then it'll just blow.
Okay.
So, I, you know,
it looked like
it had gotten... it wasn't wet.
Nothing like that.
It just looked like there was a mark there,
like I think it's leaking there.
So, when I went to get a battery,
I asked the guy.
I said, are there any issues with this?
Oh, yeah. That's common.
You need one? We got them.
You got to buy the whole assembly.
The hoses and everything.
We got them.
He says what typically happens to people
is when they're pulling a trailer
and the load gets heavy,
it blows
and they're stranded out in the middle of the road.
No. No.
That's this flow.
It's trouble. It subtracts from you.
It causes issues.
No. If it's going to go,
it's going to go in the most convenient
way possible.
Yes.
So I bought one and that was it.
When I took it apart, you could see.
It had a little crack in it.
And I put the new battery in.
Always great.
There was a time in Colorado. We were going to the mountains.
And we, we would go
where we didn't have to pay camping fees.
So we went way back in a few hours.
And
ready to go, I had to run to the store and get
something and took the vehicle, ran
the store, got something, brought it back.
We finished packing.
Went to hit the starter.
Nothing.
Nothing.
And
I was angry
because we're in a time limit here.
We got to get up there. We got little kids.
They're already whining and complaining.
Why did it have to break now?
So
got to figure it out. It was a battery.
Battery, all of a sudden the battery
wasn't weak or anything. It just quit.
Okay?
So got a new battery, put it in, delayed
us for an hour, hour and a half, whatever it was.
I'm on the way to the
mountains and the Holy Spirit asked me a
question.
Because I was saying, that stinks, man.
Why'd that have to happen? Is that the other?
He said, well, didn't you pray
and believe for that?
For the battery to break?
No.
Then he reminded me.
He said, what if that would
have happened five hours into
the mountains?
And you're two hours from any place
to buy a battery.
That was an answer
to your prayer.
So we can choose
to live in curses
or we can choose
to live in blessings.
The thing is, the average Christian
isn't choosing anything.
Therefore, it's kind of easy
to get caught in some of these traps.
We're not hearing the Spirit.
We're not making choices.
And it's not just, well,
the devil's after me.
I got news for you.
The devil's after everybody.
Peter said, he roams around
like a roaring lion
looking for somebody to eat.
So how do we respond?
Pray for me.
The devil don't get me.
Fear.
Or ignorance to faith.
Do you know how he should respond?
The devil's after Dave.
The devil will only be
after Dave until Dave recognizes
the devil's after him and then the devil
will be on the run.
Because Dave will be chasing him.
We have that authority.
We can either hunker down on this side
and go, oh man, the devil's after me.
It's just been a bad week.
Why did you let it be a bad week?
Why didn't you stop that
bad week?
Well, it's the enemy.
He's been after me.
Isn't he defeated?
The only way he can do something
is if you let him
get over to the other side
and start demanding
the bad week change.
Well, I just feel cursed. Well, you probably are.
Because remember, curse means
you're under the wrong flow.
Well, I didn't choose to be there,
but you didn't choose not to either, did you?
Yeah.
Sometimes it's just
easy
to get sick.
And the only way you won't
is if you choose
not to.
Yeah.
If you choose nothing, well, it's going around.
Yeah, it is, and we'll hit you too.
We can choose
against it.
And be blessed.
Live under that flow.
So,
I say it again, the purpose
of recognizing the wrong flow,
which is, it's just called curse.
You're in the wrong flow.
Well, I'm cursed. Well, you're actually just in the wrong flow.
Is so we can
turn it into the right flow.
The blessing flow.
That's why we recognize the wrong flow.
And that's why I'm taking so much time in this
because so many Christians don't recognize
they're under the wrong flow.
They think this is normal
for Christians.
And it's not normal.
If it's
subtracting from you, it's not
God. God adds to
you.
Just a little rule of thumb.
So not
do not move in with the enemy or
make covenant with him by calling
it neutral
or normal.
If we measure it wrong, we're going to move in with the enemy.
Okay.
Let's make this one of the question and answer stops
right here.
Anybody have any question? Okay.
We'll get the mic to you
and hopefully
this doesn't become the rest of the evening.
But we'll take it as it comes
because I'm about to shift gears just a little bit on this.
I have
two if you have time. Go for it.
The apostle Paul was shipwrecked,
beaten,
imprisoned.
Was he under the wrong flow when those things happened?
Yes.
Now, let me explain that because
we haven't gotten to listing. There's seven different
realms of curses or ways
we can get under the wrong flow.
One of them is the authoritative
curse
or the authoritative realm.
Paul would have never been in a
shipwreck if he'd have been captain of the ship.
The guy who was in charge
of the ship, Paul told him
I don't feel good about this.
See, the Holy Spirit
we're showing Paul. Yep, you do this.
They're going to be trouble. Go talk captain.
Captain's like, oh, no, the breeze is coming
from the right direction. We can do this.
Paul, shipwrecked.
Was it Paul's fault? No, it was a captain's
fault, but Paul was involved with
that bad flow because he was
under the man's authority.
Now, he didn't choose it. He was going to
roam at that point. So he was being
held prisoner by soldiers.
So he didn't choose that,
but he was under that
authority. So as a result,
he ended up under the bad flow.
Good question, though. Excellent question.
That makes sense because we had discussed that
as a family this last week.
Can you be under someone else's
bad flow?
So that leads into my second question, which I think
you kind of answered. A young child
is abused
by a stranger, let's say.
Who is at fault there?
Can be many different situations, many different
circumstances.
Usually, God gets the blame
as the child gets older.
The child that's been abused
has been
whatever way they've been abused.
As they get older, they're going to, where was God?
Where was God?
God's where he's always been.
My question is, where were your parents?
Why were you
in a position to...
And again,
sometimes stuff happens
and we're not going to lay blame.
But once it becomes a pattern
and it happens over
and over, where's mom and dad?
Where are they
missing, God? Where are they
under the wrong
flow?
And I'll just give you a real simple example.
Situation we ran into this was years ago.
The child was being abused
at daycare
on-goingly.
But the parents were
determined to reach some financial
goals and mom wasn't
allowed to stay home and take care of the child.
So their money got
more important than the child's safety.
This flow
or this flow? Which one is it?
It's definitely not God's side.
It's this side.
So here you've got a child
under the authority, mom and dad,
getting abused because
the authority is making the wrong
choices.
Good question, so
excellent. Anybody else got a question?
Go ahead. Okay, so
Job, his faith was tested
by all the things that occurred
to him. Yes. Okay.
I guess
he wasn't under a curse, was he?
Or he kept agreeing
to it.
There was two things with Job.
Job is
from historians,
Job should be before
Genesis. He's the oldest
book. He lived before
Moses and all those.
He was before
Abraham.
There was no covenant
for him to stand in.
Now he understood, Adam
and Eve understood this because that's what
got Cain and Abel in trouble.
Right. God wanted
blood sacrifices
to cover the sins of that
period of time.
Abel gave that. Cain
brought fruits and vegetables
and watermelon.
And God said,
I don't want that. I want
a blood sacrifice. So God
had told Adam and Eve, and
they had taught their children
what they need to do. Okay.
Job knew, because
Job is somewhere back
before Abraham and after
after Adam. We don't know
if he's before Noah. We're not
sure. We think he's after Noah.
It's hard to place it, but he's way back.
Okay. Job knew
to stay in,
how would you say, the right
standing with God. You had a sacrifice.
And he was continually sacrificing for
his children, it says, because
of the way they were living.
He didn't want something bad to happen.
Okay. That is the
only tool he had.
There was no covenant. Abraham's covenant
wasn't established. If he was after Noah,
that covenant was already
established. But that's more of a governmental
I will not send a flood kind of covenant
rather than a personal promise to
a person.
So he had no rights.
Let's say it that way.
So when things started going
wrong, he could not
say, in Jesus' name, I refuse
this.
This will not happen because
I have rights here.
And I'm going to exercise him. He couldn't do that. Number one.
And number two,
he did let the door open.
Even though he was sacrificing, he let
the gate open for
Satan to hit him.
You know how he did it?
He feared.
He said, the thing I feared the most.
So he was sacrificing
out of fear. He was afraid
something bad was going to come on his life
and destroy him. Well fear is an open door.
But now you
really got to cut Job some slack.
He had nothing
to stand on. He didn't have
I don't think he had any written
word of any kind. He didn't have the
Holy Spirit. He just had
the few things that were handed down
in knowledge from
people who lived before him and what God
had told him.
So
you know whenever Job comes up
and it's a good question because
it's very misunderstood.
Whenever Job comes up
the first thing I say is this
I'm not Job.
You're not Job.
Don't compare yourself to Job. Oh, why wouldn't
I compare myself to Job? Because
we have a covenant. We have
promises. We have the Holy Spirit.
We have the name of Jesus.
We've got the blood of Christ.
We have the word of faith
to call things.
Job had none of it.
So to say, well, bad things happen to
Job happen to me too. If you live
like Job, yes it will.
But I choose since I have
all these things available to me
to not live like Job.
But it's a really good question
because it always comes up.
So that's the
differentiation. When someone says, what about
Job? Are you Job?
Do you live under Job's circumstances?
Then don't compare to Job.
He's a whole different cat living
in a whole different era
without anything to stand on.
We are
literally by the Holy Spirit
in us. We're God
walking around in the flesh as we
follow his leading and declare
what he says declare. Whole
different world. Good question
though. Anybody else got anything?
We got one up here and one back there.
Okay, we'll do three more questions
then we'll move on.
We got three of them.
When you were talking about if something bad happens
one thing that came up for me, are there
certain spirits that typically hang around
each other like a lot of what you were talking
about like the condemnation and the spirit of religion
and that pride thing for example?
Yes. And we haven't gotten to that yet.
But yes, they kind of run in little
herds and they
the kingdom support each other.
Yes.
I'll just answer it that way for now.
If you're standing like 100%
faith that you'll never hit a deer
but you willfully sin like
maybe you lie to your friend or something
is that then a door open for a trap
through you hitting a deer or would the trap
have to be laid somehow
else because you willfully sin. But you're still
in 100% faith that you won't hit a deer.
I
will admit right here
I don't have all the answers.
However
my experience is this
they will use
whatever crack they can use
to get in.
So if you give them
you know if you open the window that far
well will something get in
if open at that far? My advice is
just keep the window shut
because
they will use whatever
crack they want to use
or they can use
not what they want what they can use
will you hit a deer? You may
you may not. It could be
something else that happens. You may fall in the ice.
It could be something else
it could be anything.
You could be driving down
65 down in
Blaine and your car blows up and there you
sit and the people are
walking I mean driving by you
and shaking their fists
and angry with you. It's just the most
inconvenient
worst place to break down.
It could be that. It could be anything.
But if you leave the window open
a bit
chances are somehow something
will get
flowing on you that
you don't want. So it's best to
just keep the window
shut. Keep the door shut. Don't play the game.
Bonnie had a question yet and then
we're going to move on
if you still have a question hold it for the next round.
The people that
say I can
drink like a glass of wine
before my dinner. God doesn't
condemn me for that
I
personally think it's wrong
but I have had
people argue with me Jesus drank
wine and so why can't
I? So what's your thought on that?
I know what brother Caseman said.
First is
this.
I like to have people show me where Jesus drank
wine
and I like to have
them somehow
verify that the wine he
drank was fermented
not sweet
because
in the scripture wine refers
to everything from the
freshly squeezed grape juice
out to the fully fermented
it'll knock you on your butt
gonna wine.
However
it's like everything else
they're going to answer for themselves
we're going to answer for ourselves
our arguing
with them won't
convince them if they
want to do it
where the problem comes in is
if God is trying to pull them
back from whether it's drinking or whether
it's speeding or whether it's
whatever it is lying
whatever it is
if God's working on them trying to pull them back from that and they don't
obey
Now they're opening a door. So that's what will let the evil flow in. Now the
devil usually gets the blink. It's really not his fault. It's our fault. We let it in.
Sometimes knowingly, sometimes unknowingly, but we still let it in. And with it come
the demons. The demons are not really our problem. Our problem is we got in the
wrong flow. The same way when we get over in the in the God flow side, the angels
just flow in with that. The Holy Spirit works with that. It's just a it's a very
spiritually charged thing that happens in our life. The same thing happens over
here. The angels are not the ones who cause the blessing. We do. By aligning
with God. But they will help. And we're gonna touch that here a little bit.