WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.800 Do we have any questions or thoughts or anything right out of the gates? 00:03.600 --> 00:07.760 One up there. One over there. Okay. We'll go there and start there. 00:13.010 --> 00:18.330 Alright. Got a few questions here, but I'll just narrow it down to the two that are uppermost in my mind. 00:18.430 --> 00:21.590 We had some come in online too, didn't we? Did you catch those? 00:21.870 --> 00:22.850 I didn't see any, but I will check. 00:22.850 --> 00:26.250 Okay. I think I had one sent to me. You go ahead and then I'll come back and catch this one. 00:27.270 --> 00:27.630 Okay. 00:27.630 --> 00:32.530 Okay. So two things, and then I'll just answer one. 00:33.030 --> 00:38.430 In all the list of manifestation things at the beginning, you kind of touched on this at the end, 00:38.510 --> 00:43.850 but I didn't hear you say anything about nightmares, tormenting, dreams, any of that sort of stuff. 00:43.930 --> 00:47.470 Does that not indicate something inside? Does that come from the outside? 00:47.990 --> 00:52.050 It can be either one. Yeah. It can be either one. It doesn't have to be inside. 00:53.930 --> 00:55.070 It can be either one. 00:56.330 --> 01:02.330 So I don't, just because someone is nightmares doesn't necessarily make me think they have a demon. 01:02.690 --> 01:06.790 They could be being tormented or harassed. 01:08.350 --> 01:12.470 Now if they wake up and see him standing in the room, well now you're seeing in the spirit realms. 01:12.550 --> 01:13.490 You know, that's something different. 01:14.050 --> 01:20.230 The situation I am thinking of that I'm personally aware of is somebody who is dealing with 01:20.230 --> 01:23.670 being chased by demonic beings in their dreams. 01:24.190 --> 01:27.130 Never seen one awake or anything like that. 01:28.050 --> 01:33.490 They may have one. And again they may not. It could be a picture or a type of something. 01:33.650 --> 01:35.710 Let's go talk to the Holy Spirit and figure out. 01:36.190 --> 01:40.050 Or let's just watch them in other ways because if they have one it will manifest. 01:40.750 --> 01:44.630 Especially the more we talk about God, the more we talk about his freedom, 01:44.850 --> 01:48.170 the more we talk about how good he is and his love, his blood. 01:48.510 --> 01:51.650 You just start talking about those things with the person. 01:51.650 --> 01:54.310 If there's something in there, that baby will manifest. 01:55.850 --> 02:01.710 And then the other one is you talked about not laying hands on someone because it's tormenting. 02:03.090 --> 02:10.090 However, Friday night the person you were holding their hand, that's different than... 02:10.090 --> 02:14.030 Can you explain the difference between touching someone and laying on hands? 02:14.710 --> 02:22.830 Holding her, the person's hand was an act of calming her, showing her love, showing her respect, 02:22.970 --> 02:25.490 do not be afraid, everything's going to be alright. 02:25.730 --> 02:30.530 Remember the person was saying, this won't work, this is bad, this isn't going to happen. 02:30.650 --> 02:32.550 Remember they were kind of wound up themselves. 02:33.310 --> 02:37.690 And just holding their hand and just showing love and now this is going to be fine, 02:37.810 --> 02:43.730 everything's going to be taken care of, that is different than when you lay hands on a person 02:43.730 --> 02:48.390 it is an act of taking control, even when you're praying for healing. 02:49.090 --> 02:54.050 It's an act of taking control over that sickness or that disease in the name of Jesus. 02:55.110 --> 03:00.090 So you're going to overcome that now with the person and their faith. 03:00.850 --> 03:04.830 Holding hands is a thing of support. It is a very good question. 03:05.050 --> 03:10.250 I've never had anybody say their hands were on fire if I held their hands. 03:11.410 --> 03:14.450 Now the eye thing, since you brought it up, let's go to the eye thing, 03:14.750 --> 03:18.170 because for whatever reason glasses block this a little bit. 03:18.270 --> 03:21.230 So I'll take my glasses off so I can look eye to eye. 03:22.110 --> 03:27.030 Do you remember what the person did the first time I said, lift up your eyes, look at me. 03:28.150 --> 03:29.850 Remember what they said and what they did? 03:30.690 --> 03:34.410 They turned away, they looked down, they said, I can't, I can't, it's too bright. 03:35.990 --> 03:40.150 Well, the spirit wasn't all the way down yet. It was still receding. 03:40.610 --> 03:43.210 And they were feeling what the spirit was feeling. 03:43.410 --> 03:46.450 Remember the eye is the opening to the temple. 03:46.950 --> 03:51.110 I have the Holy Spirit living in me. You have the Holy Spirit living in you. 03:51.570 --> 03:55.170 The Holy Spirit is equal with Jesus and the Father. 03:55.950 --> 04:01.890 They are described in Scripture as being blinding white light. 04:03.490 --> 04:06.790 So if a little of that is shooting out of the windows, 04:08.850 --> 04:10.910 that spirit is going, oh, I can't know. 04:11.430 --> 04:14.510 And it's one of the first things you can tell if there's something in there. 04:14.670 --> 04:18.310 And many times after I do deliverance, I'll say, now look in my eyes. 04:19.350 --> 04:24.550 And I will release again from my spirit out my eyes and I'll ask them, do your eyes burn? 04:25.370 --> 04:27.570 No, they're fine. We're good. 04:28.930 --> 04:32.290 Either we've gone as far in peeling the onion as you can get. 04:32.710 --> 04:36.490 Because remember, I said this in the previous book when we were going through that. 04:37.050 --> 04:40.990 God will take them out little by little so you can inhabit and fill that part of your life. 04:41.130 --> 04:44.590 He's not going to just clean sweep it. It's a process. 04:45.430 --> 04:49.490 And once you've gotten as far as it's going to get, nothing else. 04:49.610 --> 04:51.450 Don't go after anything else. Leave it alone. 04:51.770 --> 04:54.510 And at a different time, that'll be dealt with. 04:54.510 --> 04:58.790 But once you've gotten to the point where this is as far as it goes, 04:59.250 --> 05:05.090 when you release faith and the Spirit of God into their eyes, looking at them, 05:05.870 --> 05:09.390 it will burn them to no end. Or it will be so bright. 05:09.670 --> 05:13.670 No, no. That means something still there needs to go. 05:13.950 --> 05:15.570 Once it's like me looking at you now. 05:16.370 --> 05:18.670 No, that's fine. I don't feel anything. 05:19.190 --> 05:20.990 We're good. We're as far as we can go. 05:23.210 --> 05:27.010 That's... again, it's not... 05:27.010 --> 05:29.590 We have to get past the physical thinking. 05:30.090 --> 05:33.290 Well, how can looking at your eyes do that? 05:33.810 --> 05:36.990 This isn't physical eyeball to physical eyeball. 05:37.390 --> 05:39.090 This is spirit to spirit. 05:40.030 --> 05:43.310 And it goes in through the gate of the eye. 05:43.890 --> 05:48.770 That's why Jesus said, the eye is the opening to the temple. 05:50.150 --> 05:54.930 So I'm not trying to physically look at your eyes and see something. 05:55.310 --> 06:01.070 I am trying to release of the spiritual light within me into your eyes. 06:01.270 --> 06:03.390 And if there's something in there, it'll find it. 06:04.130 --> 06:07.630 And it will cause a reaction. 06:08.770 --> 06:11.570 Going along with that, there's a question texted to me. 06:12.070 --> 06:15.230 Let me get this one right away. It went along with what was just asked. 06:15.230 --> 06:20.550 This question is, is it possible that when you touch a person, can the demon come on to you? 06:22.410 --> 06:25.650 Okay, so now we're going to answer this by staying calm... 06:27.750 --> 06:29.470 and staying out of fear. 06:33.010 --> 06:34.470 Let me say it this way. 06:36.170 --> 06:37.810 I'll start with this example. 06:40.090 --> 06:45.610 Jesus said, out of your innermost being will flow rivers of living water. 06:47.730 --> 06:52.110 He said that in John 9 or 10, in John 7, he said, 06:52.250 --> 06:56.430 salvation is like a spring bubbling up inside of us. 06:57.270 --> 07:02.410 Have any of you have any experience with a spring that comes out of the ground? 07:02.950 --> 07:04.290 Like artesian or otherwise? 07:05.610 --> 07:13.870 Is it possible to take dirt and mud and throw it at that spring and it stays there? 07:13.870 --> 07:15.590 It sticks to that spring? 07:16.430 --> 07:19.950 No, because what's inside just washes it away. 07:20.930 --> 07:23.850 So that salvation, then he was speaking of the Holy Spirit. 07:23.950 --> 07:27.590 When you get the Holy Spirit, it will be like a river coming out of you. 07:31.630 --> 07:40.700 You can't take a bottle of coke and pour it on a river and do anything. 07:40.960 --> 07:42.980 The river just washes it away. It's just gone. 07:44.380 --> 07:52.020 If we are full and overflowing, can't get on you. 07:52.560 --> 07:54.580 Can't touch you. Can't grab you. 07:56.480 --> 07:57.380 There is the key. 07:58.240 --> 08:06.340 But this is a good question because it triggers things in my mind. 08:07.400 --> 08:11.400 Childhood, there was a couple of times where demons would manifest in a service. 08:11.560 --> 08:13.460 Nothing ever got cast out to my memory. 08:13.460 --> 08:18.900 But demons would manifest and people would get up and leave the service, go home. 08:19.860 --> 08:21.840 Because they knew that wasn't God. 08:22.580 --> 08:25.220 And they didn't want it to get on them. 08:28.640 --> 08:35.280 Well, if you are full and overflowing, it won't get on you. 08:36.380 --> 08:37.120 It can't. 08:37.920 --> 08:42.820 A cup that has got water coming in from the inside and running out over the edge, 08:42.820 --> 08:47.980 you can put food color and dot droppers and all kinds of stuff in there 08:47.980 --> 08:51.020 and it will hit the water and mix a little bit and just go out over the edge. 08:51.060 --> 08:53.380 It will be gone. It can't get in. 08:53.920 --> 08:59.900 But now if that cup is half full and nothing is coming out, it's not overflowing, 09:00.800 --> 09:02.820 well now you can get stuff in. There is room. 09:04.140 --> 09:08.300 So to answer the question is when you touch someone, can they get on you? 09:08.780 --> 09:12.080 Yes. If you are not full of God. 09:14.460 --> 09:18.860 If you are full, it's like trying to grab a greasy pig. 09:20.920 --> 09:25.360 You won't get ahold of it. It won't touch you. 09:27.160 --> 09:31.200 So the whole concept of we have to be really careful, 09:31.760 --> 09:34.300 because there are people who believe this, I presume it has been taught. 09:34.500 --> 09:36.300 It was kind of taught when I was growing up, 09:36.300 --> 09:38.040 not from the pulpit but from other people. 09:38.880 --> 09:41.200 You are young, you are impressionable, you hear people talking 09:41.780 --> 09:44.620 and your parents say, well they left the service and I asked them why. 09:44.920 --> 09:49.560 And well because they were afraid whatever demon was on them was going to get on them. 09:52.820 --> 09:54.840 Well then your head goes, well can that happen? 09:55.480 --> 09:56.220 Sure it can happen. 09:57.300 --> 09:58.280 If you are not full. 09:59.760 --> 10:04.080 If you are full of God and it's bubbling out of you, you are full of the Spirit. 10:06.260 --> 10:08.100 I wouldn't be concerned at all. 10:09.000 --> 10:13.180 If you are not, guess what the problem is? 10:13.480 --> 10:14.600 It's not the demon. 10:16.000 --> 10:16.660 It's you. 10:17.740 --> 10:19.320 You need to get full. 10:21.180 --> 10:23.120 Well I can't go to that church anymore. 10:23.340 --> 10:26.980 I went there and I've had people say this and I'm not making fun. 10:27.100 --> 10:28.340 This is for real what happened to them. 10:28.380 --> 10:29.260 I went to a church man. 10:29.400 --> 10:31.020 They were casting some demons out. 10:31.100 --> 10:32.660 That thing got on me and followed me home. 10:32.660 --> 10:35.820 My life was tormented for the next two or three weeks before I finally got rid of it. 10:37.060 --> 10:39.720 It's not the church's problem and it's not the demon's problem. 10:39.860 --> 10:40.500 It's your problem. 10:40.620 --> 10:42.200 You are not full overflowing. 10:42.400 --> 10:43.400 That's why it got on you. 10:44.720 --> 10:50.160 You need to brush up in your spiritual life and get some things in order and get the Spirit flowing. 10:50.740 --> 10:52.260 But to answer the question, is it possible? 10:52.460 --> 10:53.240 Yes, it's possible. 10:53.340 --> 10:53.980 I've seen it happen. 10:56.680 --> 11:01.600 But it doesn't happen to people who are full and overflowing. 11:01.600 --> 11:03.020 It doesn't happen. 11:03.620 --> 11:04.960 So hopefully that answers that. 11:05.260 --> 11:06.200 Anybody else got anything? 11:08.640 --> 11:09.660 Two things. 11:10.380 --> 11:18.680 When you were talking about in the very beginning about the, for it, the demon. 11:20.020 --> 11:25.240 The thought had come to me there must have been a flicker of a conscience somewhere. 11:25.640 --> 11:31.480 Even that it wanted you to apologize for them to the individual. 11:31.480 --> 11:34.460 Once it got, we'll use the word saved. 11:34.880 --> 11:36.740 Once it was reconciled. Yes, there had to be. 11:36.860 --> 11:40.360 But that was kind of just interesting to think that there was something stirring. 11:41.400 --> 11:47.080 Well, but then we obviously weren't here on Friday night or don't know about it. 11:47.160 --> 11:49.000 So I have a question regarding that. 11:49.260 --> 11:50.220 You snooze, you lose. 11:51.760 --> 11:55.240 Well, I want to know when everything started. 11:56.100 --> 11:58.240 How was it determined who was going to be in charge? 11:58.420 --> 12:00.920 Why were there so many suddenly there all doing? 12:00.920 --> 12:03.800 Because I gave, I called them up and gave them the opportunity. 12:04.880 --> 12:08.140 This was a, I was going to use it as an object lesson. 12:08.620 --> 12:12.440 Because you know it's, it's, I'll explain it this way. 12:12.680 --> 12:16.260 When you're looking for help and you put in the ad experience required. 12:17.800 --> 12:22.160 There's a difference between book knowledge and experiential knowledge. 12:22.800 --> 12:25.200 And I thought this is a good opportunity and there'll be more. 12:25.960 --> 12:27.000 There'll be more coming. 12:27.000 --> 12:30.360 And, okay, thank you. 12:32.380 --> 12:38.880 So I wanted whoever of the group who wanted to, to experience it. 12:39.160 --> 12:42.560 Because it, it changes you. 12:43.120 --> 12:45.080 It makes you look at things differently. 12:45.460 --> 12:48.660 Well then, yeah, that was so good that the person was there. 12:49.020 --> 12:50.940 I mean, in spite of. 12:51.320 --> 12:51.520 Yeah. 12:52.600 --> 12:55.100 And they felt fine about it afterwards. 12:55.100 --> 12:58.740 You know, I said we're not trying to embarrass you or anything like that. 12:58.840 --> 12:59.660 It, it happened. 12:59.840 --> 13:01.800 So let's gain as much out of this as we can. 13:02.080 --> 13:03.420 And they were fine with that. 13:05.160 --> 13:08.200 Let me read one off the wall that came in. 13:09.680 --> 13:14.200 When you dealt with the one in anger, you backed up to calm down. 13:14.420 --> 13:18.620 Do you need to repent of falling into anger in that process? 13:19.000 --> 13:19.160 Yes. 13:22.100 --> 13:25.320 Just calming down doesn't address. 13:25.800 --> 13:28.660 It addresses the physical side, but not the spiritual side. 13:29.620 --> 13:34.240 The spiritual side had, yeah, God, I'm sorry, I confess that a sin. 13:34.420 --> 13:38.680 And it doesn't have to be a big, you know, flailing yourself and, you know, everything else. 13:39.640 --> 13:40.920 God, I'm sorry, I was wrong. 13:41.280 --> 13:42.800 I got in the wrong area there. 13:42.860 --> 13:43.100 I'm sorry. 13:43.300 --> 13:44.200 I confess it a sin. 13:44.340 --> 13:44.980 It's all you have to do. 13:45.540 --> 13:47.540 If we confess our sin, he takes care of the rest. 13:48.180 --> 13:49.900 And you go right back into it. 13:50.320 --> 13:52.740 And that was another one I learned the hard way. 13:54.560 --> 14:01.320 Because the first couple of times something was brought up or happened where I knew I was wrong. 14:01.840 --> 14:04.060 I quit doing the deliverance. 14:07.340 --> 14:09.420 And they figured that out. 14:10.700 --> 14:11.780 You know, it doesn't take them long. 14:11.840 --> 14:15.600 They're all standing around watching what's going on here, especially if they're part of that kingdom. 14:16.460 --> 14:22.160 And hey, if we can, if we can even make him think he's guilty of something that maybe he's not even guilty of. 14:22.580 --> 14:23.740 Accuser of the brethren stuff. 14:23.960 --> 14:24.860 You ever hear about that before? 14:25.180 --> 14:29.160 You know, so we'll just throw something out, throw them off, and then he'll just quit the deliverance thing. 14:29.940 --> 14:31.560 And the Holy Spirit talked to me about it. 14:31.620 --> 14:32.240 He said, what are you doing? 14:33.320 --> 14:36.500 I said, well, I don't, I have no right or authority to cast them out. 14:36.680 --> 14:40.660 I, they called me out on, like for instance, the Halloween thing. 14:41.000 --> 14:44.680 I shared that story when that spirit called me out and said, 14:44.680 --> 14:47.940 you celebrate Halloween, what gives you the right to cast me out? 14:48.280 --> 14:49.900 You're a sinner as much as I am. 14:51.580 --> 14:54.120 Well, I have no right to cast them out. 14:54.740 --> 14:59.440 You know, the first times those kind of things happened, it was like condemnation to me. 14:59.480 --> 15:01.560 It took my faith away. I'm guilty. I'm wrong. 15:01.900 --> 15:05.660 I'm, now I got to go out and fix my life before I can do anything here. 15:06.020 --> 15:07.700 And the Holy Spirit said, what are you doing? 15:08.660 --> 15:12.400 Well, I'm trying to fix myself so I'm worthy. 15:13.940 --> 15:15.840 He said, you'll never be worthy. 15:17.260 --> 15:18.500 Confess your sin. 15:19.940 --> 15:23.040 And it's gone. And keep doing what you're doing. 15:23.380 --> 15:25.800 We'll talk later about the problem they brought up. 15:26.440 --> 15:27.460 Just get rid of the problem. 15:28.500 --> 15:29.520 So I did that. 15:30.960 --> 15:32.840 And it was funny the first time I did it. 15:33.320 --> 15:35.820 Well, you do blah, blah, blah, blah. 15:37.160 --> 15:38.200 Said, you know what? You're right. 15:39.080 --> 15:40.160 I think I've done that. 15:40.860 --> 15:42.160 Father forgive me. I'm sorry. 15:42.440 --> 15:43.540 I confessed that a sin. 15:44.300 --> 15:45.200 Oh, it's got big. 15:46.180 --> 15:47.760 I said, now I'm back to the subject. 15:48.860 --> 15:50.100 Last time they ever did it. 15:52.420 --> 15:53.460 Because now it's gone. 15:54.660 --> 15:55.600 Forgiveness is that quick. 15:55.940 --> 15:57.720 Forgiveness is that easy if we just mean it. 15:58.300 --> 16:00.420 You know, for playing some kind of game, well, that's different. 16:00.500 --> 16:03.240 But I mean, if we mean it like, yeah, you're right. 16:03.780 --> 16:05.220 It's an area I've messed up. I'm sorry. 16:06.260 --> 16:08.900 You were driving 65 on the way over here in a 60. 16:08.900 --> 16:10.800 And now you're going to tell me? 16:11.100 --> 16:13.660 You got the authority over me when you're a sinner? 16:14.880 --> 16:15.240 Oh. 16:17.340 --> 16:18.360 Let's just deal with it. 16:18.900 --> 16:20.460 Let's not argue with them. I was not. 16:20.640 --> 16:22.600 Yes, you were. No, I was not. 16:22.940 --> 16:24.200 How do you know? You weren't there. 16:24.360 --> 16:26.380 Well, now you're off. 16:27.080 --> 16:28.240 You're off into a distraction. 16:29.280 --> 16:30.480 Okay, let's say I was. 16:30.720 --> 16:32.180 Father, if I was doing this, forgive me. 16:32.260 --> 16:33.920 I put it under the blood. I asked, forgive me. 16:34.000 --> 16:35.120 We'll work on that in the future. 16:35.120 --> 16:37.020 End of subject. Let's move on. 16:37.920 --> 16:38.440 That fast. 16:39.580 --> 16:41.380 It's not our holiness and righteousness. 16:41.520 --> 16:42.120 It's his. 16:43.100 --> 16:44.360 We just step into it. 16:44.700 --> 16:46.840 Okay, one more down here, and then I got one up there yet. 16:47.360 --> 16:49.380 Okay, I've had two different 16:49.380 --> 17:03.410 incidents manifesting. 17:03.830 --> 17:04.930 It was almost like she was trying to 17:04.930 --> 17:07.470 crawl into my skin and into me. 17:08.170 --> 17:09.470 Do you know if she was saved or not? 17:10.470 --> 17:11.790 Or you didn't know at that point? 17:12.070 --> 17:14.470 I just met her that night at the beginning. 17:14.830 --> 17:15.730 Okay, go on. 17:16.530 --> 17:18.090 And then the second time, 17:18.110 --> 17:19.690 I was at my house, had a 17:19.690 --> 17:21.890 lady stop by for a drive-by prayer. 17:22.990 --> 17:23.990 And I'm just 17:23.990 --> 17:25.610 praying over her, you know. 17:26.190 --> 17:27.610 And all of a sudden, we get the 17:27.610 --> 17:29.690 siren call coming out, and all of a sudden 17:29.690 --> 17:31.510 she's walking around on my cell phone. 17:31.650 --> 17:33.110 I'm like, okay. 17:33.570 --> 17:35.570 Well, God, I don't know what to do. 17:35.770 --> 17:36.990 I'm just calling on you. 17:37.450 --> 17:39.750 I'm not going to do this unless you're going to be a part of it. 17:40.210 --> 17:41.370 And then all of a sudden peace, 17:41.550 --> 17:42.890 and she was in and out the door 17:42.890 --> 17:44.630 with less than half an hour. 17:44.990 --> 17:47.290 Okay. So let's deal with one at a time. 17:47.370 --> 17:49.130 The first one, you didn't know if she was saved or not? 17:49.350 --> 17:49.730 Yes. 17:50.490 --> 17:53.090 You never do deliverance on someone 17:53.090 --> 17:54.490 if they're not saved. 17:54.750 --> 17:56.890 Never, because you are going to mess them up. 17:57.470 --> 17:58.830 You think you're doing them a favor, 17:58.910 --> 18:00.710 but you're setting them up because 18:00.710 --> 18:01.970 they've got no guard at all. 18:02.150 --> 18:03.950 I mean, that spirit will willfully leave 18:03.950 --> 18:06.370 because it knows it's coming right back 18:06.810 --> 18:08.030 with a whole bunch of friends. 18:08.730 --> 18:10.890 So you never do it with an unsafe... 18:10.890 --> 18:13.030 If you don't know if they're saved, just leave it alone. 18:14.150 --> 18:15.690 You say, well, Jesus did it 18:15.690 --> 18:17.030 with people and they weren't saved. 18:17.470 --> 18:19.350 Well, there was no salvation yet. 18:20.130 --> 18:21.630 So what choice did he have? 18:23.070 --> 18:24.630 And Jesus operated 18:25.810 --> 18:26.610 as God 18:27.130 --> 18:28.910 and he knew exactly what he was doing 18:28.910 --> 18:29.630 and how to do it. 18:30.330 --> 18:33.310 I'm not God, and I will willfully admit 18:33.310 --> 18:34.710 I don't know exactly 18:34.710 --> 18:36.990 what I'm doing a lot of times or how to do it. 18:37.270 --> 18:38.610 We're just flying this plane 18:38.610 --> 18:40.170 by hoping to keep it in the air. 18:40.590 --> 18:41.730 We're happy with that. 18:43.010 --> 18:45.070 So when she started... 18:45.070 --> 18:46.470 When you started feeling that 18:46.470 --> 18:48.370 or so forth, what I had done is 18:48.370 --> 18:49.930 Lord, don't let her be embarrassed. 18:50.430 --> 18:51.930 Don't let this thing manifest. 18:52.870 --> 18:54.190 We need to get her saved. 18:54.410 --> 18:55.950 We need to get her going the right direction 18:55.950 --> 18:57.330 and we'll deal with this later. 18:57.710 --> 18:59.490 But the worst thing right now 18:59.490 --> 19:01.110 is she makes a big display. 19:01.830 --> 19:03.750 Accept it, be your will. 19:04.510 --> 19:06.350 If he wants it to blow up, let her blow. 19:06.910 --> 19:08.450 Otherwise, try to protect her. 19:08.670 --> 19:09.110 That's love. 19:10.030 --> 19:11.950 And don't address the thing. Leave it alone. 19:12.510 --> 19:14.370 We got to first find out if she saved or not. 19:16.410 --> 19:18.550 The second person, I presume, 19:18.750 --> 19:20.310 was saved because they were dropping by 19:20.310 --> 19:20.810 for prayer. 19:21.730 --> 19:23.170 So they're flopping around. 19:24.810 --> 19:25.910 First thing we do. 19:27.170 --> 19:28.330 Test time. First thing we do. 19:29.470 --> 19:30.570 Command it to go down. 19:30.950 --> 19:31.970 I don't want to mess with you. 19:32.070 --> 19:32.930 I don't want to talk with you. 19:32.930 --> 19:35.090 I'm not entertained by you. 19:35.530 --> 19:37.550 Go down and talk to her about what just happened 19:37.550 --> 19:39.410 and start steering her 19:39.410 --> 19:40.930 the right direction so that 19:40.930 --> 19:42.470 she can get delivered of it. 19:43.310 --> 19:45.330 But just to go right after it 19:45.330 --> 19:46.350 because it's manifesting? 19:46.990 --> 19:48.050 I wouldn't do that. 19:49.650 --> 19:51.010 There's, again, 19:51.190 --> 19:52.550 you're not dealing with the strongman. 19:54.550 --> 19:55.470 You're not 19:55.470 --> 19:57.010 knowing if you even have 19:57.010 --> 19:58.270 the authority to do this. 19:59.910 --> 20:01.870 Do some basic things first. 20:01.870 --> 20:03.250 Some groundwork first. 20:03.790 --> 20:04.710 You can get it out. 20:04.850 --> 20:06.230 I mean, you could have went right after it 20:06.230 --> 20:08.550 and eventually, it might have taken a few hours, 20:08.690 --> 20:09.810 eventually you got it out. 20:10.430 --> 20:12.650 Where if you back up, get some groundwork, 20:12.710 --> 20:15.250 explain to her, have her do James 4-7, 20:15.830 --> 20:17.550 have her understand what we're looking at. 20:17.890 --> 20:19.110 You'll speak to it and it'll leave. 20:19.390 --> 20:20.310 It'll just be that easy. 20:20.770 --> 20:22.310 So you can do it the hard way or the easy way. 20:22.870 --> 20:24.870 I did the hard way for so long 20:24.870 --> 20:26.570 that I just prefer the easy way now. 20:28.150 --> 20:29.710 That would be my advice on that. 20:29.710 --> 20:32.210 Get her on the same page with you. 20:32.830 --> 20:34.090 You know, one of the deliverances 20:35.830 --> 20:36.390 that... 20:36.390 --> 20:37.610 So now I'm going to... 20:37.610 --> 20:39.710 I'm going to... 20:42.530 --> 20:43.650 with permission, 20:43.830 --> 20:45.070 if he gives me permission, 20:45.170 --> 20:46.890 I'm going to share a story 20:47.730 --> 20:50.130 that helped change my life. 20:52.990 --> 20:54.330 Kevin, can I share 20:54.330 --> 20:55.650 that deliverance thing 20:55.650 --> 20:57.690 from years and years ago 20:57.690 --> 20:58.770 when you were a new Christian 20:59.430 --> 21:01.150 and you came for some deliverance? 21:01.250 --> 21:02.050 Did I care with that? Okay. 21:03.230 --> 21:04.510 He was a new Christian. 21:05.290 --> 21:06.750 Just starting to live for God 21:06.750 --> 21:08.690 came out of a background 21:09.270 --> 21:11.090 where he was heavily involved 21:11.090 --> 21:13.030 with Dungeons and Dragons in that realm. 21:14.550 --> 21:16.330 And he was also 21:16.330 --> 21:17.430 at that point 21:17.430 --> 21:19.750 very addicted to porn. 21:20.390 --> 21:22.270 And he was just a new Christian 21:22.270 --> 21:23.670 just coming out of that 21:23.670 --> 21:24.290 and 21:25.390 --> 21:25.990 he said, 21:26.070 --> 21:28.630 I need deliverance. I know I got problems. 21:30.570 --> 21:31.930 So we talked about it some 21:31.930 --> 21:34.050 and I gave him an assignment. 21:35.130 --> 21:36.150 I said, here's what we do. 21:36.450 --> 21:38.310 I said, for the next two... I think it was two weeks. 21:39.310 --> 21:39.710 Three weeks? 21:40.170 --> 21:41.630 Okay. We set an appointment out of ways. 21:42.090 --> 21:43.530 I said, I want you to be in prayer. 21:43.690 --> 21:44.610 I want you to be in the Word 21:44.610 --> 21:46.390 and I want you to fast a certain amount 21:47.090 --> 21:48.790 for the purpose of deliverance. 21:50.510 --> 21:52.170 And he did all those things 21:52.170 --> 21:54.130 and it was one of 21:54.130 --> 21:56.110 the easiest deliverances 21:56.110 --> 21:57.230 in my life. 21:58.510 --> 21:59.610 And I'm going, 22:00.790 --> 22:02.190 that was nice. 22:03.910 --> 22:05.830 That worked really well 22:05.830 --> 22:07.770 and the Holy Spirit 22:07.770 --> 22:10.310 taught me some things about 22:10.310 --> 22:11.910 or through that. 22:12.290 --> 22:14.410 It had a huge impression on him 22:14.410 --> 22:15.890 because he got free. 22:16.370 --> 22:17.930 Had a huge impression 22:17.930 --> 22:19.850 on me of 22:19.850 --> 22:21.410 there's a hard way to do things 22:21.410 --> 22:23.070 and there's an easy way to do things. 22:23.890 --> 22:25.590 And a statement came back 22:25.590 --> 22:27.470 to me from the guy 22:27.470 --> 22:28.470 who taught me deliverance. 22:28.990 --> 22:29.990 He said, number one, 22:30.410 --> 22:32.150 he said, I will never do deliverance 22:32.150 --> 22:34.010 until I got him saved. Never. 22:35.210 --> 22:37.250 I'm not going to mess with evil spirits 22:37.250 --> 22:39.310 until the spirit is in there. 22:40.070 --> 22:40.550 Number one. 22:41.210 --> 22:41.910 And number two, 22:43.330 --> 22:44.910 he said, dealing with 22:44.910 --> 22:47.110 the person being saved, 22:47.110 --> 22:49.670 he said, I want them 22:49.670 --> 22:50.870 pulling with me. 22:51.450 --> 22:52.850 I didn't understand that. 22:53.070 --> 22:54.350 And I'm green. I don't know. 22:54.930 --> 22:56.710 So you'll agree. You want the demons out? 22:56.870 --> 22:58.710 Well, they're pulling with me. 22:58.830 --> 23:00.410 No, no, that's not pulling with you. 23:01.330 --> 23:03.070 Pulling with you is they are 23:03.070 --> 23:04.890 laying hold to their life spiritually 23:04.890 --> 23:07.170 and trying to get movement 23:07.170 --> 23:08.210 on their own. 23:08.770 --> 23:10.370 Then you just come up in pocket 23:10.370 --> 23:12.730 and it's gone. It's just easy. 23:13.710 --> 23:14.230 Versus 23:14.890 --> 23:16.410 they're still living in sin. 23:16.550 --> 23:18.510 They were out sleeping with somebody last night 23:18.510 --> 23:20.310 and today we're going to cast 23:20.310 --> 23:22.270 out a spirit or a generational 23:22.270 --> 23:23.150 thing of adultery. 23:24.330 --> 23:25.390 This is going to go well. 23:26.270 --> 23:28.350 It's going to be a lot 23:28.350 --> 23:29.730 of exciting fun. 23:30.670 --> 23:32.150 And I'm kind of getting too old 23:32.150 --> 23:33.350 for that kind of excitement. 23:34.110 --> 23:36.230 You deal with what you know the 23:36.230 --> 23:37.810 issues are, then come 23:37.810 --> 23:40.130 and I might not even have to do anything 23:40.130 --> 23:42.350 because you've already dealt with it. 23:43.470 --> 23:43.910 So 23:44.910 --> 23:45.350 that 23:47.410 --> 23:48.290 what happened 23:48.290 --> 23:50.210 with him gave 23:50.210 --> 23:52.430 me huge insight that there is 23:52.430 --> 23:54.310 a harder way and an easier way 23:54.310 --> 23:56.290 to do this. What I'm trying to explain to you 23:56.290 --> 23:58.410 over and over, do it the easy way 23:58.410 --> 24:00.290 like with this lady flopping on your couch. 24:00.870 --> 24:02.270 You can just jump on that 24:02.270 --> 24:04.410 and go after it and we're going to get that thing out 24:04.410 --> 24:06.390 and I'm not saying it wouldn't 24:06.390 --> 24:08.310 work. You probably won't get 24:08.310 --> 24:09.990 the strong man. You know, if I was 24:09.990 --> 24:12.070 betting on it, I guarantee you, you're not 24:12.070 --> 24:13.870 going to get the strong man. But you'll get 24:13.870 --> 24:16.010 some out and you'll be 24:16.010 --> 24:17.550 frothing and wet and 24:18.330 --> 24:20.090 horse and everything else by the time 24:20.090 --> 24:21.830 you're done. Or you can just 24:21.830 --> 24:23.850 back up and get her on board 24:23.850 --> 24:26.250 with you. And get her renouncing 24:26.250 --> 24:27.810 according to James 4-7. 24:28.530 --> 24:29.930 It might not even feel 24:29.930 --> 24:31.770 right to do it right now. It might be 24:31.770 --> 24:33.470 let's wait a few days and 24:33.470 --> 24:35.790 give her some reading assignments. Give her 24:36.650 --> 24:37.950 let her stir 24:37.950 --> 24:40.050 some. And then you can just go back 24:40.050 --> 24:40.790 and it's so easy. 24:42.470 --> 24:44.190 It just better that way. 24:46.490 --> 24:48.090 Let me read the next one. 24:48.830 --> 24:49.970 What do you say to another 24:50.970 --> 24:52.090 person's child 24:53.130 --> 24:53.690 about 24:53.690 --> 24:55.310 ghosts being real? 24:56.310 --> 24:58.130 If you know in your heart 24:58.130 --> 24:59.450 it really is demons. 25:00.730 --> 25:01.190 Okay. 25:01.550 --> 25:03.230 You're dealing with children. 25:04.670 --> 25:05.790 Now you have 25:05.790 --> 25:07.650 legal liability issues. 25:08.870 --> 25:09.630 Because 25:09.630 --> 25:11.990 they are not under your guardianship. 25:12.130 --> 25:13.870 They're under another person's guardianship. 25:14.970 --> 25:15.350 So 25:15.350 --> 25:18.030 number one, you don't cast demons 25:18.030 --> 25:19.070 out of children. 25:19.670 --> 25:21.310 You don't give children 25:21.310 --> 25:23.330 all kinds of spiritual advice 25:23.330 --> 25:25.830 until mom and dad are 25:25.830 --> 25:26.330 on board. 25:27.530 --> 25:29.150 Somebody's got to be on board here. 25:31.150 --> 25:31.910 So 25:31.910 --> 25:33.430 I would talk to 25:34.170 --> 25:34.970 mom first, 25:36.390 --> 25:37.190 dad first, 25:37.370 --> 25:39.330 whatever the Holy Spirit leads, whoever seems to be 25:39.330 --> 25:40.230 the most receptive. 25:40.990 --> 25:42.610 I'd talk to them first and say, hey, 25:43.230 --> 25:45.070 little Johnny came and talked to me about this. 25:45.190 --> 25:47.130 They're wondering if ghosts are real. I don't know 25:47.130 --> 25:48.930 if they're seeing things. Maybe they did tell you 25:48.930 --> 25:49.810 they're seeing things, whatever. 25:51.330 --> 25:52.890 Do you know anything about demons? 25:53.110 --> 25:55.150 Because ghosts are actually demons from my understanding 25:55.150 --> 25:56.030 what the Bible says. 25:57.170 --> 25:59.150 And see if you can get them on board. 26:00.150 --> 26:01.690 Once you got them on board, 26:01.690 --> 26:04.350 now you can make a plan to help the child. 26:05.390 --> 26:05.790 Because 26:05.790 --> 26:07.930 stop and think of this. So you've got a child, 26:08.090 --> 26:09.150 they come to you and they say, 26:09.670 --> 26:11.410 are ghosts real? Because I think sometimes 26:11.410 --> 26:12.690 there's a ghost in my bedroom. 26:13.290 --> 26:15.430 Honey, ghosts are actually demons. 26:15.690 --> 26:17.010 This is devils in your bedroom. 26:17.670 --> 26:19.650 Go home and have a good night's rest, honey. 26:20.650 --> 26:21.330 You know, what 26:21.930 --> 26:23.670 what good did you do that child? 26:23.810 --> 26:25.550 You scared the magibbers out of them. 26:26.530 --> 26:28.110 We want to help the child. 26:28.710 --> 26:29.650 So I would 26:29.650 --> 26:31.890 first deal with the parents, 26:32.090 --> 26:33.810 keep myself out of legal problems, 26:34.710 --> 26:35.690 things like that. 26:36.490 --> 26:37.770 And then, yes, 26:38.510 --> 26:39.510 get the child. Ultimately, 26:39.690 --> 26:41.170 what we want is get the child free. 26:41.930 --> 26:43.810 And again, if they're as a child 26:43.810 --> 26:45.810 seeing these kind of things, probably generational stuff. 26:46.890 --> 26:47.550 So yeah, 26:48.470 --> 26:49.390 that'd be good. 26:49.550 --> 26:51.490 But take the soft way in. 26:52.930 --> 26:54.090 Did anybody else hear? 26:54.230 --> 26:56.050 You still got the mic? Okay, we'll read the other one. 26:56.330 --> 26:57.970 I have a question based on last week. 26:57.970 --> 27:00.410 If the womb is a secret hidden place 27:00.410 --> 27:01.610 and generational 27:01.610 --> 27:03.890 curses are believed to not be 27:03.890 --> 27:05.090 able to affect the 27:05.830 --> 27:07.690 pre-born, how 27:07.690 --> 27:10.050 do genetic deformities 27:10.050 --> 27:11.630 and conditions happen? 27:12.670 --> 27:13.610 Good question. 27:13.850 --> 27:14.610 Excellent question. 27:17.250 --> 27:18.090 Genetic 27:19.070 --> 27:19.910 and 27:19.910 --> 27:22.150 spiritual are two different realms. 27:22.890 --> 27:23.990 One is physical. 27:24.750 --> 27:25.790 One is spiritual. 27:25.790 --> 27:27.690 Can spirits 27:27.690 --> 27:28.330 help 27:29.430 --> 27:31.590 mess with genetics? I believe so. 27:31.930 --> 27:32.930 I think they can. 27:34.430 --> 27:35.230 But genetics 27:35.990 --> 27:38.130 are all... if you have 27:38.130 --> 27:39.930 a genetic deformity 27:39.930 --> 27:41.930 you don't need a spirit 27:41.930 --> 27:43.310 to... that 27:43.310 --> 27:45.030 body will just 27:45.790 --> 27:47.790 be deformed. It's a genetic 27:47.790 --> 27:49.750 deformity. Whether a spirit's there 27:49.750 --> 27:51.050 or not has nothing to do with it. 27:52.250 --> 27:53.970 Not all genetic 27:53.970 --> 27:55.650 stuff is demon 27:55.650 --> 27:57.290 at the core. 27:58.170 --> 27:59.810 We have a huge amount of 27:59.810 --> 28:01.570 pesticides in our 28:01.570 --> 28:04.090 environment. We have a huge 28:04.090 --> 28:05.290 amount of toxins 28:05.800 --> 28:07.990 in our environment. We have 28:07.990 --> 28:09.790 a huge amount of stuff that 28:09.790 --> 28:11.250 they are discovering. 28:12.430 --> 28:13.610 Don't ask 28:13.610 --> 28:15.810 the normal medical community. 28:15.990 --> 28:17.690 You've got to ask the holistic 28:17.690 --> 28:19.710 medical community. But we have a huge 28:19.710 --> 28:21.670 amount of stuff that gets introduced 28:21.670 --> 28:23.510 into our bodies via vaccines. 28:24.590 --> 28:25.650 And all these 28:25.650 --> 28:26.430 build up 28:27.010 --> 28:28.510 and can cause 28:28.510 --> 28:31.570 issues physically in the body. 28:32.590 --> 28:33.930 Which can cause 28:33.930 --> 28:35.530 deformities in children. 28:35.750 --> 28:37.610 If you've got... you know, they 28:37.610 --> 28:39.570 can test. They could test 28:39.570 --> 28:41.450 years ago for some of this stuff. But the more 28:41.450 --> 28:43.670 we go, if you'll get... 28:43.670 --> 28:45.450 If you know you have a weakness in your 28:45.450 --> 28:47.450 genetics, they will 28:47.450 --> 28:49.270 test you and say whether you should 28:49.270 --> 28:51.030 actually marry this person or not. Because 28:51.030 --> 28:53.350 if you do, you have a higher risk 28:53.350 --> 28:55.590 of this deformity 28:55.590 --> 28:56.610 taking place. 28:58.490 --> 28:59.370 For instance, 28:59.890 --> 29:01.470 if a brother marries a sister 29:03.230 --> 29:04.990 there doesn't have to be demons involved 29:04.990 --> 29:07.610 there at all. The chances 29:07.610 --> 29:08.750 of having problems 29:09.270 --> 29:10.430 purely genetic 29:11.590 --> 29:13.070 but the chances of having 29:13.070 --> 29:14.550 problems just skyrocket. 29:16.030 --> 29:16.610 Because 29:18.270 --> 29:19.390 it's not... 29:19.390 --> 29:20.810 our bloodlines, 29:21.190 --> 29:22.730 our genetic system 29:22.730 --> 29:24.630 is not pure enough anymore 29:24.630 --> 29:26.870 to do what Adam and Eve did. 29:27.390 --> 29:29.010 I mean, or Noah did. 29:29.310 --> 29:30.790 When they repopulated the world, 29:30.930 --> 29:32.270 brothers were marrying sisters. 29:33.370 --> 29:34.370 And the 29:34.370 --> 29:36.750 human DNA and everything was pure enough 29:36.750 --> 29:38.810 to be able to stand up under that 29:38.810 --> 29:40.750 and repopulate. We're 29:40.750 --> 29:41.750 not that pure anymore. 29:42.450 --> 29:44.110 That's why even as 29:44.110 --> 29:46.690 a young person growing up 29:47.550 --> 29:48.130 boho 29:48.130 --> 29:48.990 decades ago 29:50.330 --> 29:52.210 I knew the medical community 29:52.210 --> 29:54.190 said, you don't marry 29:54.190 --> 29:56.310 your sister, you don't marry your first cousin, 29:56.390 --> 29:57.530 your second cousin's iffy. 29:58.670 --> 29:59.250 Why? 30:00.170 --> 30:02.090 Because you're going to end up with genetic 30:02.090 --> 30:02.870 deformities. 30:03.610 --> 30:05.850 You're going to have problems, not demonic 30:05.850 --> 30:07.550 based at all. It's plain 30:07.550 --> 30:08.890 our DNA 30:08.890 --> 30:11.130 is not what it used to be 30:11.130 --> 30:13.070 as the human race. 30:13.610 --> 30:15.210 And there's weaknesses in it 30:15.210 --> 30:16.810 and you combine certain weaknesses 30:17.390 --> 30:18.670 you're going to have problems. 30:21.970 --> 30:23.210 So I think that 30:23.210 --> 30:24.290 answers that question. 30:25.010 --> 30:26.810 It doesn't have to happen in the wound 30:26.810 --> 30:29.010 because of demons. It can happen because 30:30.490 --> 30:31.610 the DNAs 30:31.610 --> 30:33.070 just weren't strong enough 30:33.070 --> 30:35.170 to create the right thing or some damage 30:35.170 --> 30:37.150 entered in through a toxin 30:37.150 --> 30:39.110 or otherwise and caused the problem. 30:39.630 --> 30:40.830 Anybody else have a question? 30:47.380 --> 30:47.780 Okay. 30:51.200 --> 30:52.420 I don't have anything else 30:52.420 --> 30:54.140 that came in that way. We're good here? 30:54.800 --> 30:55.260 All right. 30:56.100 --> 30:57.680 So, you know, like I said 30:57.680 --> 30:59.540 we were supposed to get done with curses first 30:59.540 --> 31:01.620 and this was a whole night session by itself 31:01.620 --> 31:03.040 that we were going to deal with later 31:04.260 --> 31:05.460 on here's how you cast 31:05.460 --> 31:07.360 we've been talking self deliverance a lot. 31:07.600 --> 31:09.140 Here's how you cast demons out of other people 31:09.140 --> 31:11.360 kind of give you some guidelines just to make it easier. 31:11.360 --> 31:13.440 I mean, there's a hard way to do it, easy way to do it. 31:14.140 --> 31:15.640 Here's just some of the things I've learned 31:15.640 --> 31:17.540 you'll learn some things that might even work better 31:17.540 --> 31:19.220 than what I've learned and that's all fine. 31:19.700 --> 31:21.180 There's just an easier way to do it. 31:21.260 --> 31:23.500 So, this was supposed to be a package all by itself 31:24.560 --> 31:25.360 aside from 31:26.220 --> 31:27.240 any kind of 31:28.520 --> 31:29.520 curses or so forth 31:29.520 --> 31:31.120 but we had an incident 31:31.120 --> 31:33.360 so now I felt, well, let's 31:34.260 --> 31:36.140 let's strike the iron while the iron's hot 31:36.140 --> 31:37.960 because it'll make the most sense now.