WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.740 Let's go for questions. Okay, the person with the mic, you got a question? 00:09.680 --> 00:15.360 Okay, my desperate attempt for looking for answers and everything that was going on with 00:15.960 --> 00:22.640 three months in the being saved. I came across Robert Henderson and Francis Miles and they are, 00:23.060 --> 00:27.380 they do this thing called the courts of heaven, which obviously didn't work for me 00:27.380 --> 00:31.360 because I'm still dealing with it stuff. But I was just wondering if you were 00:31.360 --> 00:35.460 familiar with any of that? Explain it to me a little bit how they approached it. 00:35.500 --> 00:41.820 Look, could they could they approach God as judge, friend, juror or friend, judge? 00:43.120 --> 00:47.720 And they just remind him that he's in it's like they step into the courts and they ask 00:47.720 --> 00:51.140 that the blood speaks on their behalf. Oh, yeah. I'm familiar with that. 00:51.140 --> 00:57.580 Okay. Yeah. So no, I don't want to pork. You know, I'm not criticizing. 00:58.040 --> 01:03.460 Yeah, no, no, I'm not. I'm not. If it works for them, have at it. Can you find that system in 01:03.460 --> 01:08.380 Scripture? Well, it talks about the court, the inter courts and stuff like that in Scripture. 01:08.620 --> 01:13.300 So I did kind of try to back it up, but I, I don't know. It didn't work for me. 01:15.060 --> 01:18.240 See, I get kind of picky now. Yeah. 01:18.800 --> 01:23.880 And it's like Jesus showed us how to cast out demons. The apostles showed us how it's done. 01:25.320 --> 01:30.040 And there's no record in Scripture they ever called on the courts of heaven to do anything to 01:30.040 --> 01:36.400 get a demon out. They turned to him and said in the name of Jesus whom I serve or something like 01:36.400 --> 01:44.240 that, I command you to come out. Like when Paul was dealing with the girl that had the divination 01:44.240 --> 01:53.000 spirit. He just used the same system that Jesus taught him to use in my name, cast out demons. 01:55.300 --> 01:59.400 So I get, I'm not saying God didn't, I'm not saying the Holy Spirit didn't teach him that. 01:59.640 --> 02:04.420 Like for instance, I had one person tell me when I was still caught in the names thing, 02:05.160 --> 02:08.940 he said, why do you think that's going? Why do you think you're doing it? The names 02:08.940 --> 02:15.500 thing that way. I said the thing that I find works for me at this point is it's like you have 02:17.600 --> 02:21.960 10, let's just use as an example, you've got 10 demon forces standing in front of you. 02:23.900 --> 02:27.240 They're easier to get rid of if you take them out one at a time. 02:29.280 --> 02:33.200 Versus if you've got them all together and you take them out all at once. Well, 02:33.200 --> 02:36.940 see, you know what I was saying? I didn't have the faith to take them out all at once. 02:37.940 --> 02:42.460 That's all I was saying. I didn't know it at that time, but looking back, it's like, 02:42.660 --> 02:46.820 and I told him that. He said, well, and then when it went to the other thing, the same question 02:46.820 --> 02:54.860 came up. Why do you call out what spirit they are? You know, you spirit of divination and the 02:54.860 --> 03:00.320 name of Jesus, I bind you and link a couple to it and call it out. Well, it was the same answer. 03:01.180 --> 03:06.360 Well, I've tried to get rid of them in just, in the name of Jesus, everybody go. 03:07.580 --> 03:14.680 It didn't work. So it's kind of breaking them down to my power level. My power level wasn't 03:14.680 --> 03:20.360 where Jesus was. It's down here. So I'll kick one at a time out. I got the power to do that. 03:23.380 --> 03:31.880 But what actually happened to change that is I did go to the courts of heaven, 03:31.880 --> 03:39.960 not to cast anything out. I went there and I said, what I'm doing is not scriptural. 03:41.000 --> 03:47.320 I'm talking to God, specifically Jesus. I said, what I'm doing is not scriptural. 03:47.320 --> 03:55.120 This is not how you did it. And I hate this. This is not the right way to do this. 03:56.320 --> 04:02.080 And I'm begging you. I want to do it like you did it. 04:04.220 --> 04:08.120 And I stayed there. I stayed there probably 15, 20 minutes. 04:08.720 --> 04:13.540 I said, God, I'm not leaving this spot. I am done with this other way of doing things. 04:14.780 --> 04:23.040 I am begging you. And nothing happened while I was praying. But the next person I had a deal with, 04:24.780 --> 04:29.620 I just said in Jesus' name, get out. And they left. I bet my eyes are as big a saucer as like, 04:31.180 --> 04:37.940 holy moly, they actually left. I didn't have to argue with them. I didn't have to fight with 04:37.940 --> 04:42.280 them. I didn't have to break them down into little demons before I could get them out. 04:42.280 --> 04:47.620 They left. And something changed in me at that point. 04:50.880 --> 04:55.260 Maybe God just reached out and dinged me on the head or something. Because all of a sudden, 04:56.060 --> 05:05.700 I had the knowledge, inward knowledge, the faith, to know 99% of the time, I don't need 05:05.700 --> 05:10.480 to do it that way anymore. There might be a time God will say, use a name or whatever to kind 05:10.480 --> 05:15.940 of grab them. But 99% of the time, I don't need to do that anymore. I will bind them up. 05:16.240 --> 05:19.920 I'll deal with the strong men. I don't care who they are, what they are. They're leaving. 05:20.440 --> 05:26.060 And it just, it settled in me. And once that settled in me, now it works that way. 05:28.140 --> 05:31.980 But so people will come to me with various ways. And I'll say the same thing I just said, 05:32.080 --> 05:35.860 no, if it works for you, and that's what the Holy Spirit taught you, that's between you 05:35.860 --> 05:38.880 and God. That's not my, it's not for me to meddle in that. 05:41.840 --> 05:44.880 But I won't do it because I don't see it in Scripture. 05:47.140 --> 05:51.160 Well, but Jesus said there's a lot that he had to teach us and he couldn't tell us, 05:51.240 --> 05:54.880 well, I get all that. I understand all that. And I'm not saying it doesn't work. 05:56.420 --> 05:58.940 But you're probably breaking them down to your faith level. 06:01.660 --> 06:05.480 You know, that's, that's what I was doing. And there's no shame in it. It's just, 06:05.980 --> 06:09.360 that's where I was at. And finally I got to the point. I said, you know, 06:09.360 --> 06:14.280 I'm about ready to quit this whole thing. Because it works. But this is like trying 06:14.280 --> 06:19.920 to push water uphill. I hate this. This isn't the way it worked for you, Jesus. I want what you had. 06:22.620 --> 06:30.000 And that, that switched it. Go ahead. Yeah, you were talking about, you know, 06:30.180 --> 06:34.980 brainwashing and like our kids in school in our days and all this transgender and everything 06:34.980 --> 06:41.540 that's going on, aren't most of our books printed like in China? And is there a possibility that they're 06:41.540 --> 06:47.700 doing like some of the rock stars did back in the day where they're preying over this material 06:47.700 --> 06:54.260 and cursing it? So, because I mean, it's just like rampant. I mean, it. Yeah, absolutely, 06:54.420 --> 06:58.920 that's possibility. And the thing that not stop and think about this, you want to say, well, 06:58.920 --> 07:08.960 how many people you think actually have demons? We vote. Take Minnesota. We voted 07:10.000 --> 07:17.060 a Congress full of these people because we think it's right. Just take one point, abortion. 07:18.380 --> 07:26.320 74% of Minnesotans believe abortion is okay for, for everybody. 07:27.960 --> 07:32.540 Every one of those people is under some form of mind control. 07:32.980 --> 07:36.780 Have you ever tried to talk them out of it? Abortion ain't right. 07:37.880 --> 07:43.920 They will argue up one. They can't see it. They cannot see it. Even Christians, 07:44.460 --> 07:47.060 they cannot see it. They're under mind control. 07:51.340 --> 07:56.440 I don't know what else to say. You're too smart to be that dumb. You know, some of the stuff 07:56.440 --> 08:05.160 that's going on now is like, are you serious? Someone from another state can now come to 08:05.160 --> 08:15.800 Minnesota under age and ask for a sex change and their request trumps the rights of their parents. 08:17.080 --> 08:22.460 Who live in a different state? You're way too smart to be that dumb. 08:23.200 --> 08:29.680 To go that direction. In fact, someone called me just, end of last week, they said, 08:29.680 --> 08:35.480 my friend has a 12 year old who is struggling with some physical issues. 08:36.980 --> 08:46.680 So the mother called the hospital and said, we're asking for the hospital records of this. 08:47.180 --> 08:50.120 And so we can have in hand the hospital records. 08:51.840 --> 08:55.700 They live north of Minneapolis. They're not too far from us. They live south, 08:55.800 --> 08:58.680 but not too far from us. And they called one of the hospitals in the cities where the 08:58.680 --> 09:04.420 child had been to, a 12 year old. This was the response. Can't give them to you. 09:05.280 --> 09:09.500 What do you mean you can't give them to me? I'm the parent until that child 09:10.600 --> 09:15.300 gives you permission to see their records. We can't give them to you. 09:16.000 --> 09:18.560 So my question is, is this in this new bill they passed? 09:20.740 --> 09:28.960 That's been around a long time. Yeah, but a child is a minor. They're under age. 09:32.210 --> 09:33.750 So that's part of HIPAA, you think? 09:37.940 --> 09:43.040 Really? Boy, I must be back from the dark ages. It's been around a long time, supposedly. 09:45.760 --> 09:51.740 That's demonic. Yeah, that is crazy, especially when you link it now with, 09:53.100 --> 09:56.620 you know, kids can go to school and tell their counselor they're pregnant and they're 13 years 09:56.620 --> 10:00.660 old and the counselor or get them all set up with the doctor and have the abortion. 10:00.660 --> 10:07.060 And the parent never has to give permission. Does the parent get the bill? 10:15.260 --> 10:20.180 Can you give her a mic? Where are you at, Molly? Let's get this so people online can hear. 10:20.180 --> 10:23.740 That was one of the complaints that parents had when they'd call in and they couldn't get 10:23.740 --> 10:29.640 the minor child's records is, okay, I can pay their bill or I have to pay their bill, 10:29.640 --> 10:34.700 but I can't find out what was done. I'm liable for their 10:35.480 --> 10:38.340 paying of the bill. So people would say I'm not paying for it then. 10:40.940 --> 10:45.480 But they didn't have a leg to stand on because the law was that the kids have 10:46.500 --> 10:50.340 privacy. Privacy. It's a right of privacy. I can't remember. 10:52.380 --> 10:59.160 I heard 12. I think it's 12, but I don't recall. It's young though and it's ridiculous. 11:02.680 --> 11:04.300 That is why we're homeschool. 11:06.640 --> 11:10.680 HIPAA, is that a federal thing or is that a state thing? That's federal, isn't it? 11:11.960 --> 11:14.500 So our federal legislature, so that's nationwide. 11:15.620 --> 11:19.020 Kids can refuse to let their parents see their medical records? 11:25.980 --> 11:29.220 Wow. Hang on to your thought. We got another question front of you. 11:30.000 --> 11:34.000 What's your feeling about people charging money for deliverance? 11:36.360 --> 11:42.660 Okay, this is my feeling. Freely received, freely give. 11:44.240 --> 11:48.180 If you want to make a donation because you're grateful or you feel God's telling you to, 11:48.300 --> 11:53.840 that's fine. But I won't do anything with you until you put 200 bucks in my hand. 11:53.840 --> 11:59.040 It's like now that, no. Freely received, freely give. 12:00.940 --> 12:03.540 Did that answer the question? That's my feeling. 12:05.740 --> 12:10.380 My question, thank you for this. This has really been good because when I saw that lady up there, 12:10.500 --> 12:14.060 I just thought, well, she's got a discerning of spirits because she's going down the list, 12:14.100 --> 12:19.300 you know, to the generation and so forth. But I love the blanket part that you talked about. 12:19.860 --> 12:24.300 If you know somebody that is like, you know they're being demonized, 12:24.340 --> 12:29.320 but they don't know they're necessarily being demonized, how can you, 12:29.980 --> 12:32.580 you know, they're not going to come to a service. They're not going to come. 12:32.760 --> 12:37.900 How do you approach them? Do we just pray? Do you have authority as a parent? 12:38.760 --> 12:44.360 And then the other question was, what's the difference in people's lives where you see 12:44.360 --> 12:51.080 they've had severe trauma and then they also need deliverance? Those things kind of go hand in hand. 12:51.260 --> 12:57.460 We're going to deal with trauma and drugs and deliverance because that's a whole different baby. 12:58.660 --> 13:04.940 That'll be a different night. Going back to the other question of what do you do when you 13:04.940 --> 13:10.140 know somebody's got problems, you intercede for them, you pray for them. I would go to 13:10.140 --> 13:16.340 2 Corinthians 4, pray that the God of this world who's blinding their eyes gets taken off 13:16.340 --> 13:20.040 so they can see and make a decision for themselves. Because the mind control thing 13:20.040 --> 13:28.980 is they're actually not free to make their own choice. And human beings need the right to choose. 13:29.700 --> 13:34.240 So that's the direction I come from, prayer, intercession. You'll never talk them into it 13:34.240 --> 13:40.860 because they don't see it. So you're wasting your time there. There has to be a supernatural 13:40.860 --> 13:47.460 removal of that blinding, even if it's temporary, so they can see the truth. 13:51.020 --> 14:01.420 But very good question. When we were out in California, there was a man doing deliverance 14:02.860 --> 14:09.160 and when he prayed for the people, they would like vomit up the demons. I've never heard of that 14:09.160 --> 14:15.680 before. When we were in California, that would happen. Is that really real? 14:15.940 --> 14:20.920 They're not really vomiting the demons up. It's a physical reaction many times when the demons 14:20.920 --> 14:25.720 leave. Sometimes people feel them leaving through their feet, sometimes through their hands. 14:27.720 --> 14:33.580 Sometimes it's like they're heaving them out. It's a physical reaction to it. And yeah, people 14:33.580 --> 14:42.680 can throw up when it's happening. People can start bleeding from various orifices 14:43.360 --> 14:47.460 when deliverance is happening. All of a sudden their eyes turn red and their blood running 14:47.460 --> 14:52.880 down their face. It's a physical reaction somehow to the intensity of what's going on 14:53.500 --> 14:58.360 because they're being ripped out of that temple and different people react different ways. 14:58.520 --> 15:02.420 But in the charismatic movement, they felt you had to throw up to get rid of demons. 15:04.700 --> 15:11.280 Yeah, you don't need to. Let's see again, go back to the word. Word doesn't say you have 15:11.280 --> 15:16.860 to throw up to get rid of demons. So it's a lack of being grounded in the scripture. 15:20.760 --> 15:26.580 Did somebody send this in? Or did you look it up? Did you read it enough? You can explain it to us? 15:27.600 --> 15:31.200 If not, go ahead and do that while I'm answering a question and then we'll let you explain. He 15:31.200 --> 15:34.660 looked up the hippolaw thing. He might have an answer for us. Okay, who we got? Okay. 15:34.880 --> 15:38.940 Um, when someone, when you're debating someone, they say I don't believe that 15:38.940 --> 15:44.720 is for our time. Is that mind control or is that just them being still burning? 15:44.720 --> 15:50.280 It can be a religious spirit. Religious spirit is the one spirit that my mentor said, don't mess with. 15:50.660 --> 16:00.220 And it's like, I haven't fully obeyed that. There are times I mess with them, but religious spirits 16:00.220 --> 16:08.000 are really hard to deal with, especially the people who know the word because they will twist it 16:08.800 --> 16:14.220 and buy their traditions and their understanding of what the word says 16:15.160 --> 16:21.360 from their perspective. The worst thing about a religious demon is you can't grab them. 16:22.160 --> 16:29.920 You just can't lay a hand on it to where the person will go, oh, okay, I am going to 16:29.920 --> 16:35.800 repent to that and renounce that. They cover their tracks. They are right in everything. 16:35.800 --> 16:43.260 They do not repent. They do not renounce. You're the one who's off. And you can plainly look at 16:43.260 --> 16:49.820 them and go, you got a problem. You know, um, I do not. And like for instance, one guy was dealing 16:49.820 --> 16:56.040 with religious spirit, didn't get anywhere with it, but he was abusing his wife, um, physically, 16:56.440 --> 16:59.400 verbally. And you know, once you get to physically, you've been verbal and everything 16:59.400 --> 17:03.500 else. So verbally and physically he's abusing his wife and she's crying out for help. 17:04.420 --> 17:13.500 Um, he defended his abuse from her of her every way up and down. And the basic thing he came from 17:14.240 --> 17:21.120 is, and he twisted the scripture, two things. Women are supposed to be in submission. If she 17:21.120 --> 17:26.400 was a godly woman, she would do what I tell her to do. And she's supposed to keep her mouth 17:26.400 --> 17:31.080 shut because women are supposed to be silent. I said that you're taking that out of context. 17:31.780 --> 17:38.320 Oh no, you're the one who's wrong. I understand what this means. They're supposed to be silent 17:38.320 --> 17:43.220 and they're supposed to be submissive. And if she doesn't, I have the right to put her in her place. 17:44.620 --> 17:47.540 Now if she changes her ways, then I won't have to hit her anymore. 17:48.700 --> 17:53.740 I couldn't get anywhere with the guy. He just quote scripture to me, twisted of course, 17:54.020 --> 17:58.460 but he quote scripture to me. And this is the way I see it. It's like, 17:59.800 --> 18:03.260 that's why religious spirits are hard to deal with. Because you can't grab them. 18:03.800 --> 18:07.040 They're just so slippery. Get away from you. Got another question? 18:07.420 --> 18:13.000 Just another common is, scripturally demons refer to themselves as they, them, and us, we. 18:13.660 --> 18:18.240 Sometimes. Like when they identify as queen or king or whatever, it kind of goes with that. 18:18.480 --> 18:25.560 Oh, that way? Yeah. Yeah, probably now they would. Yeah. That whole thing of, it made no 18:25.560 --> 18:29.660 sense to me back then, you know, what they're just identifying one section of the other. 18:29.880 --> 18:35.340 And now that we've got this rampant in our society is like, that's demonic. That's what 18:35.340 --> 18:38.860 they were doing 40 years ago in the spirit realm. Anyway, go ahead. 18:39.360 --> 18:46.280 Yeah. So according to the looking up the HIPAA thing, federally, parents are able to see 18:46.280 --> 18:50.520 their child's records and to see any information they can call the provider and ask. 18:51.420 --> 18:57.160 But according to state, it divvies up by state and less contradicts with the state. 18:59.380 --> 19:04.340 State can supersede that. And then it's also left up to the individual provider. 19:05.040 --> 19:11.260 If they deem that by a judgment call that it was, they felt it was unsafe for the child 19:11.700 --> 19:15.660 to release the information to the parents, then they can leave it up to them and they 19:15.660 --> 19:20.240 are protected. So for instance, if a child was in the hospital with physical abuse, 19:20.240 --> 19:26.120 the hospital doesn't have to tell the parents we treated them for physical abuse. 19:26.540 --> 19:29.480 In case it's the parents doing it and they just perpetuate the problem. 19:29.700 --> 19:32.980 Yep. Yeah. And also if the child states that they do not wish 19:32.980 --> 19:35.800 any information to be shared, then the parents are cut off. 19:36.840 --> 19:40.740 And see that's all good in an upright and righteous approach. 19:41.600 --> 19:46.600 But when it gets twisted like it has now, then it's like, it gets evil. 19:46.600 --> 19:47.860 Louie, did you have something? 19:49.740 --> 19:53.960 Yeah, I just want to add to the HIPAA law. You know, when they had that here, 19:54.120 --> 19:59.020 I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, the reason they did that law was it gave like 12 19:59.020 --> 20:04.680 different agencies immediate access to your, like the FBI, Homeland Security. 20:05.220 --> 20:08.320 And that's, that was the purpose of it. It wasn't to protect us. 20:08.520 --> 20:14.420 It was to give all these federal and state agencies immediate access to your record. 20:14.820 --> 20:16.200 Now, which law are you referring to? 20:16.200 --> 20:17.420 The HIPAA law. The HIPAA. 20:17.640 --> 20:19.880 So they readjusted it in the state again or something? 20:19.880 --> 20:23.560 Well, no, maybe, but I mean, that's that's what she was saying. 20:23.700 --> 20:27.940 The gal that was given the talk was that the reason they did the HIPAA law 20:27.940 --> 20:32.800 was to give all these federal and state agencies to your local sheriff, 20:32.980 --> 20:36.600 your police department, Homeland Security, FBI. 20:37.440 --> 20:39.940 So they can just go into your record with no permission. 20:40.500 --> 20:43.140 It's in the HIPAA law. It wasn't to protect us. 20:43.140 --> 20:45.920 It was to make our records more available. 20:46.140 --> 20:48.920 But yet your spouse, who you've been married to for 43 years, 20:49.100 --> 20:51.440 if you don't have a living will. 20:52.320 --> 20:52.720 Exactly. 20:53.060 --> 20:56.080 She can't see if you're in the hospital, what's wrong with it. 20:56.200 --> 20:59.300 They won't give you, give her your records because she's a criminal. 21:02.910 --> 21:03.930 What a mess, though. 21:04.210 --> 21:06.110 See it there again, it goes back to this is, 21:06.150 --> 21:09.490 this has got to come out of mind control stuff because we're just, 21:09.650 --> 21:11.470 we're too smart to be that dumb. 21:13.070 --> 21:17.710 It's just like grandma's dying in the nursing home during COVID. 21:18.410 --> 21:20.110 And the kids can't go see her. 21:20.630 --> 21:22.430 For fear they'll kill her with COVID. 21:22.790 --> 21:24.270 She's dying, dang dong. 21:27.420 --> 21:29.800 It's like, think that one through. 21:30.260 --> 21:31.920 We're trying to go in and see her off. 21:32.140 --> 21:32.820 She's dying. 21:33.320 --> 21:34.320 You know, I had people tell me, 21:34.480 --> 21:35.640 the doctor called and said, 21:35.680 --> 21:37.840 my mother is dying and they won't let me in. 21:37.900 --> 21:40.440 I tried to force my way in and they pushed me back out. 21:40.680 --> 21:42.000 And they won't let me in. 21:42.000 --> 21:42.780 I said, why? 21:43.040 --> 21:44.620 Because they're afraid I'll kill her with COVID. 21:44.880 --> 21:46.780 But they called me and said, she's dying. 21:47.800 --> 21:49.220 We wanted you to know. 21:51.460 --> 21:54.720 Now you're the medical professionals who are educated. 21:56.820 --> 21:58.900 Wow, you're too smart to be that dumb. 22:01.040 --> 22:01.700 Go ahead. 22:02.440 --> 22:06.280 So I have a question back on the names and casting out by names. 22:07.380 --> 22:10.200 That always confuses me whenever you talk about it 22:10.200 --> 22:15.500 because if you're talking about a strong man in a binder 22:16.540 --> 22:17.940 and looking up everything, 22:18.840 --> 22:22.100 it seems like the first time you cast it out, throw it into the pit, 22:22.300 --> 22:24.760 that binder is completely useless because that demon's gone. 22:25.000 --> 22:27.140 Or do these demons trade names? 22:27.440 --> 22:29.040 Or do they come under different names 22:29.040 --> 22:31.200 or take on the name of the kingdom they're in? 22:31.320 --> 22:32.940 Or how does, I mean... 22:32.940 --> 22:34.820 My understanding, they work in categories 22:34.820 --> 22:40.500 and there might be 10,000 of a certain name. 22:40.800 --> 22:44.420 Okay, so if there's Queen Mother, Supreme, Computroller, whatever, 22:44.680 --> 22:45.380 that could actually... 22:46.360 --> 22:49.440 That's a name, but it applies to 10,000 different. 22:49.700 --> 22:52.920 And they all work in the same category, so to speak. 22:53.740 --> 22:55.500 Trying to accomplish the same thing. 22:57.200 --> 22:58.540 Question came in online. 22:59.080 --> 23:01.520 Does Scripture say something about binding the strong man? 23:01.840 --> 23:04.000 Yes, it'll be in the handout that... 23:04.000 --> 23:04.600 Well, you got it. 23:04.600 --> 23:06.340 Read it for next week, it'll save us time. 23:06.840 --> 23:08.240 I gave you the Scriptures there. 23:09.000 --> 23:09.840 Where do you send them? 23:10.180 --> 23:12.720 Jesus with the Legion, send them to the pit. 23:13.800 --> 23:15.300 And how do you fill the person? 23:15.840 --> 23:18.760 In other words, now you've got spiritual space open in the person. 23:19.360 --> 23:22.140 The main thing that I tell people to do 23:22.140 --> 23:23.800 is you got to spend more time in the Word now. 23:24.520 --> 23:27.900 And let the Word fill you, spend more time in prayer, 23:28.120 --> 23:29.460 get worship music going. 23:30.460 --> 23:33.080 You're going to have to somehow fill that space. 23:33.840 --> 23:36.020 And the Word is the thing that does it the best. 23:36.460 --> 23:41.940 Just read chapters and read chapters and just fill yourself. 23:43.060 --> 23:45.080 Because, yeah, you don't want to leave the space empty. 23:45.840 --> 23:46.360 Good questions. 23:48.080 --> 23:49.100 Right here, we got one. 23:50.080 --> 23:55.400 So in dealing with trying to get people to have more self-deliverance 23:55.940 --> 23:58.340 in the mind control area, 23:58.920 --> 24:03.720 is that, does that get in the way of people being able to do that? 24:03.980 --> 24:04.300 Absolutely. 24:05.380 --> 24:08.660 They need a revelation from God that they have a problem. 24:09.480 --> 24:12.700 For me to cast it out of them or for them to deal with it themselves. 24:13.520 --> 24:16.280 They need to, like this religious guy who was abusing his wife. 24:16.860 --> 24:19.760 He had no clue this was scripturally wrong. 24:20.280 --> 24:23.900 He was giving her her due and she deserved it because of the way she 24:24.480 --> 24:26.820 didn't shut up and submit and do what he wanted. 24:26.820 --> 24:31.700 Okay, so once, and I don't know if he ever did. 24:31.800 --> 24:34.740 I have no idea, but once he comes to the realization, 24:35.920 --> 24:38.580 wait a second, something's wrong here. 24:38.940 --> 24:40.900 He can do self-deliverance right on that. 24:41.680 --> 24:43.840 God, I submit myself to you. 24:43.940 --> 24:46.100 I got the feeling I'm deceived in something. 24:46.780 --> 24:49.920 And I resist and renounce that deception. 24:50.540 --> 24:52.420 Whatever it is, I want it gone. 24:52.940 --> 24:53.780 And it'll just start, 24:54.200 --> 24:56.060 the Holy Spirit will just start chipping away at it. 24:56.700 --> 24:59.760 And the next day he'll go, oh my goodness, he saw more. 25:00.040 --> 25:01.420 And it'll just chip away. 25:01.820 --> 25:03.740 Or you can go and do deliverance on him. 25:04.320 --> 25:08.860 Once he realizes it, now he's open to owning it. 25:09.020 --> 25:10.420 See that's the problem with the religious spirit. 25:10.860 --> 25:12.620 They won't own, they have a problem. 25:13.520 --> 25:14.140 They're right. 25:14.460 --> 25:16.880 Religious, the Pharisees and scribes, I mean the perfect example. 25:17.640 --> 25:19.420 They're right. You're wrong. 25:20.000 --> 25:22.840 And everybody looking in who knows anything about God's going, 25:23.360 --> 25:24.400 these people have a problem. 25:24.400 --> 25:28.980 Like for instance, one of the favorite things that Pharisees did in Jesus time 25:29.460 --> 25:31.760 in the morning, Jesus made this statement. 25:31.920 --> 25:36.680 He said, do not do your prayers before men to be seen of them. 25:37.520 --> 25:40.480 Okay. One of the favorite things the Pharisees did 25:40.480 --> 25:43.940 is in the morning, they would go out in front of their house 25:43.940 --> 25:45.080 or out on the street corner. 25:45.140 --> 25:47.660 And they would start their morning prayers, 25:47.780 --> 25:51.280 which they did publicly so everybody could see how spiritual they were. 25:51.280 --> 25:53.960 They would start their prayers with 25:56.020 --> 25:59.500 whatever they, you know, Jehovah or whatever they called Father God. 25:59.620 --> 26:02.320 I am so glad you did not create me a woman. 26:05.990 --> 26:10.250 See now, you try to convince that man he's abusing his wife. 26:13.710 --> 26:15.070 He's not going to own that. 26:17.110 --> 26:19.550 And until you submit yourself to God 26:20.150 --> 26:22.750 and renounce that thing, there's not going to be any deliverance. 26:23.710 --> 26:27.590 But he's convinced that everything that happened 26:27.590 --> 26:29.010 in the world is a woman's fault, apparently. 26:29.670 --> 26:32.330 And he's just so glad he's not guilty of that. 26:32.690 --> 26:34.730 Doesn't even see his own sin. 26:35.890 --> 26:39.190 But yeah, if they will own and see something, 26:39.530 --> 26:41.390 it can start chipping away at it. 26:41.770 --> 26:44.690 And that's how we've all gotten revelations on stuff. 26:45.630 --> 26:48.070 It's rarely just drops on us all at once. 26:48.410 --> 26:50.490 We see a little bit and then it starts chipping away. 26:50.630 --> 26:51.470 We see more and more and more. 26:51.630 --> 26:52.730 Okay, we'll go there and we'll come up here. 26:52.730 --> 26:53.490 You have something, okay. 26:53.930 --> 26:54.670 Quick question. 26:55.150 --> 26:58.670 Is there a danger when you're doing a deliverance ministry 26:58.670 --> 27:01.410 like you're talking about a person in church 27:01.410 --> 27:05.250 who gets delivered that that demon doesn't go out of that person 27:05.250 --> 27:08.170 and into somebody else because they're always looking for a place 27:08.170 --> 27:10.510 or do you always command them to go to the pit? 27:10.850 --> 27:12.450 I always command them. 27:13.530 --> 27:14.630 Can they jump? 27:15.770 --> 27:19.390 If they're going to jump, they have to have a contract to do it. 27:19.550 --> 27:20.490 They have to have legal right. 27:21.430 --> 27:26.810 If they are a spirit that is a familiar spirit 27:27.530 --> 27:29.950 and they've got legal right to a family line, 27:30.130 --> 27:32.230 if there's people of the family there, 27:32.270 --> 27:33.850 they can transfer to those people 27:33.850 --> 27:35.390 because they've got legal right. 27:35.490 --> 27:36.410 They've got a contract there. 27:36.850 --> 27:38.970 Or let's say it's a spirit of... 27:44.030 --> 27:44.990 Spirit of hate. 27:45.330 --> 27:45.990 Just use something. 27:47.530 --> 27:48.950 When they come out, 27:48.950 --> 27:51.070 they can see what's going on. 27:51.730 --> 27:55.430 And if there's people there who already have hate, 27:55.730 --> 27:58.430 they probably already have spirits of hate, 27:59.150 --> 28:00.490 it can go and just move in. 28:00.890 --> 28:03.610 So it's not like they get infested with something brand new. 28:04.310 --> 28:07.930 They're already under the influence and it'll just slide. 28:08.190 --> 28:08.610 It can. 28:08.830 --> 28:09.290 Doesn't always. 28:09.570 --> 28:11.210 It can just slide in with them. 28:12.250 --> 28:16.130 But to an innocent non-bystander, so to speak, 28:17.070 --> 28:18.650 it's, I don't have problems with hate 28:18.650 --> 28:19.990 and I ain't related to you. 28:20.190 --> 28:21.250 No, they can't touch me. 28:21.590 --> 28:22.830 Because they have no contract. 28:23.030 --> 28:23.590 They have no ground. 28:24.070 --> 28:27.670 They are very legalistic and they have to have that ground, 28:27.930 --> 28:28.530 that contract. 28:28.910 --> 28:29.770 They call it a contract. 28:32.230 --> 28:33.630 They have to go to the pit. 28:34.050 --> 28:34.210 Yep. 28:35.690 --> 28:37.570 And then what... 28:37.570 --> 28:38.470 And I'll do it sometimes, 28:38.770 --> 28:40.230 and not always, but I'll do it sometime. 28:40.390 --> 28:41.330 I will usually say, 28:41.430 --> 28:44.750 and nothing of your kind can replace you or come back in, 28:45.210 --> 28:47.750 which hits all the other ones that Kevin was talking about. 28:48.190 --> 28:51.270 Because there's other demons of hate who want to get back in. 28:51.810 --> 28:53.310 Well, nothing of your kind is allowed. 28:55.410 --> 28:58.610 Yeah, it's just little stuff you learn over the years. 28:59.170 --> 29:01.890 Because you say, how do you learn that? 29:02.030 --> 29:03.290 Well, you cast a demon out of somebody 29:03.290 --> 29:04.490 and they claim they're all free. 29:05.370 --> 29:07.610 And a month later, they come back and they say that, 29:07.750 --> 29:09.570 I have the same problem I had before. 29:10.910 --> 29:12.130 And sometimes it's worse. 29:13.110 --> 29:14.830 And it's like, okay, how did it get back in? 29:14.970 --> 29:15.350 What happened? 29:15.490 --> 29:16.050 Is that in the other? 29:16.210 --> 29:17.290 And the Lord will teach you. 29:17.350 --> 29:18.450 The Holy Spirit will teach us. 29:21.070 --> 29:23.070 But I had one person say, 29:23.130 --> 29:24.450 when I said I was going to do this class, 29:24.610 --> 29:25.430 I had one person say, 29:25.610 --> 29:27.870 why are you doing a class and casting out demons? 29:28.070 --> 29:28.810 You just cast them out. 29:29.990 --> 29:31.610 Well, my question is how many have you? 29:33.230 --> 29:33.750 I agree. 29:34.010 --> 29:34.570 You just cast... 29:34.570 --> 29:35.430 That's what Jesus said. 29:35.510 --> 29:36.210 You just cast them out. 29:37.710 --> 29:39.230 And there's an easy way to do that, 29:39.310 --> 29:40.410 and there's a hard way to do that. 29:40.410 --> 29:41.890 And I'm trying to share enough information 29:41.890 --> 29:43.130 that when you do it, 29:43.230 --> 29:44.510 it's easier for you than me. 29:45.430 --> 29:47.090 Because I had the hard way. 29:47.790 --> 29:48.550 Who's got the mic now? 29:48.730 --> 29:49.070 Okay, go ahead. 29:49.330 --> 29:50.690 I have a question regarding, 29:51.110 --> 29:52.210 when you were talking about, 29:52.490 --> 29:55.970 let's just say leadership, federally, locally, 29:56.830 --> 30:00.050 state by state, we know good and well 30:00.050 --> 30:02.630 that some of those people have most assuredly 30:02.630 --> 30:04.730 gone into the reprobate mind category. 30:05.510 --> 30:06.930 And into demon worship. 30:07.310 --> 30:07.690 That's right. 30:07.790 --> 30:08.530 Everything else, yep. 30:08.530 --> 30:11.370 Okay, so they're pretty much gone. 30:14.550 --> 30:15.150 Spiritually, you mean? 30:15.410 --> 30:15.590 Yes. 30:21.460 --> 30:22.760 Go ahead and just say it. 30:22.780 --> 30:23.880 I know I'm trying to think. 30:23.980 --> 30:25.000 What was the second thing? 30:26.680 --> 30:28.240 Okay, we know they got a reprobate mind. 30:28.420 --> 30:29.460 We know they're pretty much gone. 30:29.460 --> 30:30.440 Oh, the religious spirit. 30:31.440 --> 30:33.480 Because there are so many of them now. 30:34.200 --> 30:34.400 I mean... 30:35.680 --> 30:36.840 Yeah, most of them go to church. 30:38.760 --> 30:40.280 And I'm not going to say, 30:40.280 --> 30:42.260 of course I wouldn't say anybody's name. 30:44.400 --> 30:46.660 But we know of an individual. 30:47.420 --> 30:54.620 And there is absolutely no way that you can make an inroad. 30:54.860 --> 30:56.320 I mean, well, we don't try. 30:56.480 --> 30:57.260 We just pray. 30:57.400 --> 31:00.320 Well, actually, now I don't even have that on my... 31:01.180 --> 31:03.780 The Lord has pretty much released me from that. 31:04.240 --> 31:06.580 But there are so many. 31:08.740 --> 31:11.540 And these are ones who have their seasoned. 31:13.460 --> 31:13.580 I know. 31:13.580 --> 31:13.900 How? 31:14.880 --> 31:15.260 I know. 31:15.400 --> 31:15.540 I know. 31:15.580 --> 31:15.920 I know. 31:15.940 --> 31:18.280 Some I think are beyond the... 31:18.280 --> 31:19.320 Because in 1st John 5, 31:19.460 --> 31:21.100 it tells us that we don't pray for everybody. 31:21.280 --> 31:23.480 There comes a time you don't pray for them anymore. 31:25.140 --> 31:31.060 It's so frustrating because they're so arrogant and proud. 31:31.540 --> 31:31.880 And aligned. 31:32.980 --> 31:33.500 And... 31:33.500 --> 31:33.820 Yep. 31:34.700 --> 31:35.820 It's like they've crossed over. 31:35.840 --> 31:36.260 It's grievous. 31:36.260 --> 31:37.040 It's grievous. 31:37.400 --> 31:37.680 It is. 31:38.260 --> 31:38.960 It is. 31:39.900 --> 31:44.080 It's, you know, the whole Star Wars thing of the force and the dark side 31:44.790 --> 31:47.840 is such a picture of what happens in the spirit world. 31:48.100 --> 31:49.680 It's like they cross over to the dark side. 31:49.860 --> 31:53.260 And once they're in it deep enough, it's like you said, 31:53.920 --> 31:55.500 I don't think there's recovery for them. 31:55.600 --> 31:57.010 Sometimes some do, but... 31:57.840 --> 32:00.500 You know, when you said in your sermon, 32:01.360 --> 32:04.580 maybe last week or the week before, I can't remember. 32:04.580 --> 32:08.300 But when you said if that one law goes into effect, 32:08.300 --> 32:11.660 basically we, our state, will be under a curse. 32:11.940 --> 32:14.560 And we will be living under that. 32:16.860 --> 32:21.100 Our state, unfortunately, is one of the chief. 32:26.720 --> 32:27.320 How... 32:27.320 --> 32:31.240 Provided that there's still halfway an honest election, 32:31.620 --> 32:33.380 we need to vote these people out. 32:33.900 --> 32:35.900 But the thing that bothers me is 32:37.380 --> 32:39.820 will we have the votes to do it? 32:40.900 --> 32:43.060 That is the point. 32:43.640 --> 32:44.460 That's what I mean. 32:44.780 --> 32:47.300 It's almost, I'm not trying to sound negative, 32:47.600 --> 32:50.900 but realistic when you're looking at the statistics. 32:51.600 --> 32:52.940 Remember the first message, 32:53.160 --> 32:55.200 or the message I gave the first Sunday of the year 32:55.200 --> 32:57.000 when I was giving statistics in Minnesota? 32:57.300 --> 32:57.560 Yes. 32:57.960 --> 33:00.120 Minnesota has 83% of people. 33:01.380 --> 33:02.840 They use the word identify. 33:03.180 --> 33:04.000 So I'll use the word identify. 33:04.520 --> 33:05.620 Identifies Christians. 33:06.720 --> 33:09.520 So 8 out of 10 identifies Christians. 33:09.700 --> 33:11.260 Only 2 out of 10 do not. 33:11.960 --> 33:12.580 Okay? 33:13.480 --> 33:17.460 But 73% of Minnesotans are in favor of abortion 33:17.460 --> 33:18.580 for whatever reason. 33:19.460 --> 33:19.820 Yeah. 33:21.020 --> 33:23.920 So you have 8 out of 10 who are Christians, 33:25.020 --> 33:28.560 7 out of 10 who say abortion's okay. 33:29.140 --> 33:33.380 You only have 2 out of 10 who say I'm not a Christian. 33:33.640 --> 33:34.900 So let's bring them here. 33:35.540 --> 33:38.740 70% of people say abortion's okay for any reason. 33:39.160 --> 33:41.760 Well, 20% of them are non-Christian. 33:42.000 --> 33:42.100 Okay? 33:42.200 --> 33:42.920 Come underneath that. 33:43.000 --> 33:45.440 That leaves 50% of the people who say 33:46.300 --> 33:48.560 abortion is okay in this state are Christians. 33:49.800 --> 33:51.760 We have a serious problem. 33:54.220 --> 33:56.540 And unless God gets ahold of them, 33:56.620 --> 33:57.620 they'll never vote otherwise. 33:59.100 --> 34:00.400 They're voting out of love. 34:00.980 --> 34:03.120 Whatever you want, I love you enough to give it to you. 34:03.120 --> 34:03.900 Nope. 34:04.440 --> 34:06.280 See, now there again it's another one of those things. 34:06.360 --> 34:08.320 If you got to be under mind control to be that dumb, 34:09.420 --> 34:11.040 that one doesn't make any sense. 34:11.460 --> 34:13.280 I love you enough to let you go to hell if you want. 34:14.680 --> 34:15.640 It's your choice. 34:17.740 --> 34:19.200 Your body, your choice. 34:22.930 --> 34:23.610 See that one? 34:23.770 --> 34:29.110 You can abort up to minutes before the child is born, 34:29.450 --> 34:31.730 but if they're born and they die 34:31.730 --> 34:33.130 and you did something, 34:33.130 --> 34:35.350 you can be up for manslaughter. 34:37.070 --> 34:39.430 Or before they're born, if... 34:39.430 --> 34:41.230 And this loss that they're going to change this, 34:41.370 --> 34:42.910 I'm sure they are because it's so hypocritical. 34:43.610 --> 34:45.650 If someone's seven months pregnant and gets an abortion, 34:45.850 --> 34:46.230 that's fine. 34:46.790 --> 34:47.270 No big deal. 34:47.830 --> 34:49.390 If someone's seven months pregnant 34:49.390 --> 34:50.330 and they get in a car accident 34:50.330 --> 34:52.470 and the baby's killed, that's manslaughter. 34:53.930 --> 34:54.770 In this state. 34:56.050 --> 34:57.830 See now, how can you be that dumb? 34:59.410 --> 35:00.690 It has to be mind control. 35:01.070 --> 35:02.290 That you can't see it. 35:02.290 --> 35:05.130 It's like, how can you not see that's dumb? 35:06.130 --> 35:09.090 Oh no, that's wisdom. 35:10.110 --> 35:11.310 Not God's, that's for sure. 35:12.210 --> 35:13.430 So it's I... 35:13.430 --> 35:14.850 Yeah, we're going to get under a cursing 35:14.850 --> 35:15.930 because we live in the state. 35:16.070 --> 35:17.670 Of course, we don't have to agree to it, 35:17.870 --> 35:19.550 to where it comes into our own life. 35:20.330 --> 35:25.630 But what happens in the state, we're gonna feel that. 35:27.330 --> 35:29.730 You know, like for instance in the book of Judges, 35:31.890 --> 35:35.150 there were good, honest, God fearing people 35:35.150 --> 35:36.610 who wanted to serve God 35:36.610 --> 35:38.670 when the bulk of them went the wrong way. 35:39.470 --> 35:41.650 Those people suffered with the bulk. 35:42.490 --> 35:44.710 And God put into a foreign country 35:44.710 --> 35:47.570 and taken over and then a judge would come 35:47.570 --> 35:48.250 and deliver them. 35:48.710 --> 35:50.810 It's like, it's so sad. 35:51.630 --> 35:53.790 But if we're not willing to be the salt 35:53.790 --> 35:56.810 and the light and be here and stand up, 35:57.930 --> 36:01.990 well then God's got nobody to influence the right way. 36:02.370 --> 36:04.010 And that's where I get angry. 36:06.250 --> 36:10.750 Because if half the churches in this state 36:11.150 --> 36:13.590 would take a stand on anything, 36:14.870 --> 36:16.650 we could change the whole works. 36:18.070 --> 36:19.310 It just makes me angry. 36:20.470 --> 36:22.450 What a bunch of... 36:23.250 --> 36:24.390 Won't say it. 36:25.050 --> 36:27.130 I have everything supposed to be for edifying, 36:27.330 --> 36:28.450 so I'm not gonna say that. 36:31.170 --> 36:32.810 Anybody else got a question or something? 36:37.600 --> 36:39.880 Do you think within the church, 36:40.140 --> 36:42.100 because there is so much woke 36:42.100 --> 36:45.900 that don't really have any opinion or anything, 36:46.780 --> 36:49.240 just have become so discouraged 36:50.400 --> 36:54.120 that even as far as voting, what's the use? 36:54.340 --> 36:56.420 Yeah, absolutely. I think that's starting to take place. 36:56.420 --> 36:59.260 I've heard people tell me, what's the use of voting? 36:59.740 --> 36:59.920 Right. 37:00.020 --> 37:00.620 It's fraud anyway. 37:03.700 --> 37:05.340 That's the beginning of quitting. 37:05.960 --> 37:07.040 Quitting the resistance. 37:07.680 --> 37:10.740 It's not continuing to resist. 37:11.280 --> 37:12.720 It's not continuing to stand. 37:13.080 --> 37:13.760 Yeah, to stand. 37:14.980 --> 37:16.100 Anybody else got anything? 37:16.320 --> 37:16.600 Are we good? 37:19.060 --> 37:21.740 Okay, so that is kind of a taste 37:21.740 --> 37:24.000 of what we're gonna try to do in this last section. 37:24.480 --> 37:27.820 We're gonna try to take different topics 37:29.780 --> 37:30.980 and work them through. 37:31.100 --> 37:32.360 Not all are gonna be as intense 37:32.360 --> 37:33.740 as the strongman was tonight, 37:34.240 --> 37:35.420 but we're gonna try to work through 37:35.420 --> 37:36.400 these different topics 37:36.400 --> 37:38.660 and fill in the holes and the gaps, 37:38.900 --> 37:41.680 so to speak, so we get a complete picture 37:41.680 --> 37:42.120 when we're done. 37:42.920 --> 37:43.760 So thank you for your time. 37:43.860 --> 37:45.400 Be blessed. Have a safe trip home.