Lord, we enter into Your Spirit. We enter into Your mind. We enter into Your presence in Jesus' name.
Lord, these things don't become just something of the head, but they drop down into our spirits in the name of Jesus. We pray it and we ask it.
And we thank You for it. In Jesus' name. Amen.
Amen. Welcome everybody. Welcome to those of you who are live streaming and we have a little different background tonight.
We're preparing for a children's program on Friday night, so that's what that's about. So try not to let it distract you.
So we're shifting into the third section, and there's going to be three sections in this series, but we're shifting into the third section of this.
The first two sections, the first one was out of this booklet, Spiritual Warfare Basics, and then the second one came out of this booklet holding our land and our temple.
And there will be a third booklet when we're done called Demonology in the Evil Spirit World.
Now, the first two booklets came almost entirely from the perspective of self-deliverance.
And I really feel God is... He was pushing me. It was kind of interesting the last time, maybe a little before that when Kelvin Woods was here.
He made the comment. He said, I don't know what you guys are doing.
He said, but I'm really feeling God pushing me to teach people how to do self-deliverance.
And I think what this is about is we have too many weakling Christians, and they don't know how to deal with themselves.
They think deliverance is... We went and saw the movie last night, come out in Jesus' name.
And that is the... And I'm sure when they do their conferences, this is a movie trying to present deliverance through a dying world.
So you can't go too deep. You're just trying to get their attention.
So I'm sure when they do their conferences, they get into self-deliverance stuff and talk about that whole world.
But the reason the church typically not only doesn't do deliverance, but the reason we're kind of afraid of it,
is the stereotype of deliverance is me delivering you or you delivering somebody else.
And yeah, Jesus did a lot of that.
But now remember, the people Jesus was ministering to weren't even saved.
They had no authority over demonic spirits unless he gave it to them.
That's why when he sent out the disciples, he said, I give you authority.
Because the average person wasn't even saved.
Once you get past the book of Acts, you find very, very little about Christians having demons cast out.
And we talked about this already. This is just kind of a little bit review.
Because I believe we're supposed to stay clean ourselves.
And if we sense anything, we deal with it immediately.
That's the direction these two booklets come from.
Now we interrupted and we did one night dealing with, because we had a deliverance situation open up,
and there will be more, where we taught about how to deliver someone else.
Now I'm going to make a big statement here.
If you can't do self deliverance, don't try to do someone else's deliverance.
It will get you in trouble.
Because if you're not able to deal with what's going on in here,
when you go after something in there, everything in here will fight you.
And the biggest thing thereafter is your mind.
Everything is in the mind when it comes to this realm.
And if you've got something in you, or something that has access to you,
and you start dealing with someone else's demons,
all these thoughts and feelings will start hitting you.
They're going to try to use mind control on you.
And we're going to talk about that quite a bit tonight.
They're going to try to use mind control on you
to get you to start questioning and doubting.
And why isn't it leaving?
And I don't understand.
I'm saying this in Jesus' name.
And all this stuff starts coming.
Yeah, you ain't going anywhere.
Because you're working in doubt.
So unless we have cleaned this thing up,
I don't know if anybody's totally clean.
Jesus was, but I don't know about the rest of us.
But unless we've cleaned this thing up enough,
that when we go after that, this is afraid.
Whatever is still affecting us is like,
I'm going to keep my mouth shut,
because if I speak up and they recognize me,
I'm going to.
Because these people know how to kick them out of themselves.
Not just other people.
So I really believe that in this next move of the spirit,
people are going to have to be taught how to do self-deliverance
because they're coming out of such extreme backgrounds.
That God doesn't just set them free in one night
and everything's gone.
This is going to be an ongoing, growing process.
And they will be taking layers off for a while.
So now we're to the point,
we're going to start dealing more specifically
with casting demons out of others.
And that third book will have not the last message,
the last message we finished the seven curses,
seven realms of curses.
It was the one before that we had to insert.
That material would be the first thing in the third book
where we're dealing with others.
But let me ask this question to make sure this isn't
just becoming all knowledge.
When's the last time you cleansed your temple
or your surroundings?
For yourself.
That's good.
Because most Christians never do it.
It never dawns on them that...
Let me say it this way.
When you are in the presence of God
and you've been there for a time,
you feel so clean.
When you've been out in the world,
especially depending upon what realm in the world you are,
you go home feeling so dirty,
so defiled.
What is that?
What do you think that is?
You got stuff trying to cling to you.
Yep.
And especially in the...
you know, the rougher areas,
like guys who work in the construction world.
That is a rough group of people.
You have to keep cleansing yourself.
There's times I come out of Walmart
and they had some kind of goofy song plan
and I went in with no song in my head.
I come out with this crazy song running in the background
and I look at Mary and I said,
where did I get that?
She said, well, that was playing in Walmart.
See, I don't pay attention to that stuff.
She said, yeah, that was playing in Walmart.
I said, really?
Well, now it's running through me
and this is in a godly song.
What do you think that is?
It's trying to stick.
We should be, every so often,
not only this temple, but the house we live in,
the property we live in,
we should be cleansing it.
And it's very simple.
It's very simple and we've gone over it,
but I want to make sure we're actually doing it.
You know, it's very simple.
It's, okay, I got this song in my head.
I submit myself to your kingdom
and I resist the kingdom of darkness.
So whatever this is,
trying to keep this song going in my head,
get off of me.
I want nothing to do with you. Go.
Do you ever do that?
When you wake up at night and you're feeling nasty,
or you go home and you're feeling nasty,
or you wake up in the morning
and you had some nasty dreams.
What do you do with that?
You need to cleanse your temple.
I'm not saying they're necessarily inside,
but they're hanging around.
You need to clean up.
You say, well, I thought demons couldn't touch Christians.
Demons couldn't touch Jesus.
The rest of us, I'm not going to put us in his category.
They mess with us a lot.
And we have to do the self-deliverance thing
on an ongoing basis, in my opinion,
because this stuff, even if it can't get inside of us,
it tries to stick.
It tries to influence us.
And that influence eventually becomes mind control.
And we're going to talk about that some tonight.
Again, I'm looking for topics from you folks.
You know, as we finish this out,
I want to have covered as much as we can.
And tonight we're going to deal with Strongman,
because that is absolutely part of self-deliverance.
Yes, but it's absolutely, absolutely part
when you're trying to get someone else free.
Jesus said it, you got to deal with Strongman.
So we're going to talk about that tonight
and give some understanding of the background of Strongman
and how to deal with that entity.
And I'm just going to share what I do and why I do it.
Now, I thought this was awesome.
It wasn't last Sunday, it was a Sunday before
when we were talking about dying to our desires.
And I gave the illustration of wanting
to go to North Dakota Snowmobiling.
And God said no.
Okay?
So I'm going to give kudos where kudos are due.
I was wondering, is anybody going to pick up on this?
After the words, after I spoke, Dave Rogers came up to me
and he said, do you realize that what you experience
there is exactly what we talk about on Tuesday nights
about getting under the wrong floor?
I said, Dave, you caught it.
So let me explain to you.
I was wanting to go to North Dakota and Snowmobile
because they had so much snow there
and go back to where I grew up in Snowmobile.
And the Lord told me, no, don't go.
Stay here and do what you're supposed to do.
So now if I would have, I had a choice.
I could stay under God's flow and obey.
Or I could say it ain't that big a deal.
It's not sin to go to North Dakota and go snowmobiling.
No, that's not the sin.
The sin is he doesn't want you to go and you're disobeying him to do it.
So I step over here under this flow.
And this is what Dave brought up.
He said, if you'd have got under that flow, do you realize
you could have been in an accident?
You could have had something happen to, you know,
somebody run into you.
All kinds of things could have happened
because you're under the wrong flow.
I said exactly, exactly.
And what would have put me here?
My disobedience.
He said, don't do it.
Now that has happened over the years many, many times
where we've had to change plans
because we were planning to do something.
God said, don't do it.
It's when we don't hear the voice of the spirit,
we get in trouble.
And that is not like, for instance,
if I'd have went to North Dakota Snowmobiling
and then I don't know gotten somebody ran into me while I'm driving
or while we're driving, we get too excited
and we don't realize how old we are
and we start speeding and hit some bump
and I hurt myself, break my arm, whatever.
That's not a neutral thing.
That comes because I got under the wrong flow
when he said, don't go.
Well, I could pray for protection.
It won't work.
He said, don't go.
You can pray for mercy.
God, I'm disobeying you, so be merciful.
But when he already told you what to do,
you can't do something else and make excuses for it.
And Dave caught that. I thought, oh, that's really good.
He caught that. And that's why I stayed.
You know, Paul said we're not unaware of Satan's schemes and devices.
He's always setting traps.
So here I am telling you how we have to obey
and he sets a trap for me to do exactly the opposite
of what I've been teaching.
And don't kid yourself.
He wouldn't have snapped something on that trap.
Just that simple.
So we've got a couple of videos here that we want to show you.
They're really short.
I just want to point a couple of things out to them.
I don't think it makes any difference which order,
which one you pick.
Can't download them, so he has to do it this way
and enlarge them.
So let's take a peek at this.
In this young boy's name.
And I declare every attack of the enemy upon him
speaking against his identity in Christ.
Every demonic spirit
making this boy not have confidence
and speak against his identity.
You must leave him now in Jesus' name.
You must leave him.
Notice the resistance?
I break every generational curse off of him now.
Thank you Jesus.
Thank you Jesus.
Thank you Lord.
Thank you God.
And on three I command
every demonic spirit
attached to that generation.
Be sure to comment.
Okay, you can stop there.
Okay, so there's two things I want you to notice.
You don't have to scream and yell.
Now there's sometimes the Lord will have you get forceful.
But notice how calm she was.
She's in a street ministry situation.
She's right out in the public.
Notice how calm she was.
And number two.
Did you notice what she did when it refused?
She went a level deeper.
She was saying you have to get off of him
and he's going to have identity problems and so forth.
You can't do it. You have to leave.
She could have stayed there
and kept trying to cast it out
and it would have never left
because it was a generational spirit.
You say what happens?
They're plugged into their power sources.
It's like trying to stop an electric fan.
Put your finger there and stop it when it's on high
and it's still plugged in.
You can do it.
But it's kind of rough.
And you better be reaching from the front and not the back
because if you reach from the back, it's going to cut your finger open.
But if you will unplug it from the wall,
it's very easy to stop it.
When she said, I cut off the generational curse
he dropped to his knees.
That was because the spirit that was up in him
which shook his head no
and you could tell by the posture, I'm not doing this.
It's just like a rebellious little kid sitting there.
I'm not doing this.
She said get out.
Now, when she unplugged it from the wall,
the kid dropped, that was literally the spirit
dropped to its knees
because it lost its power source.
If you don't cut off the generational curse,
it is reaching back for generations
and drawing on the sin energy to defy you.
And she knew enough how to deal with that.
So when it refused,
well, we'll just go a level deeper.
And if it were to refuse there,
she'd win a level deeper.
So those are little things you learn
to turn something that could be a fiasco.
Into a very easy process.
Okay, give us the second one.
This was kind of interesting.
I don't know if you can enlarge it more than that
because there's just like a second.
I don't know if we can stop it,
but maybe you'll see it when there's a going to be...
Let me give you the scenario on this.
There's going to be a street preacher preaching
and the guy comes up and just for a second
as he turns to look at him, you see the guy's face.
And if you've ever seen demons in people's face,
that is it.
But anyway, go ahead and play it.
God will send crazy people like me
to be a preacher on the street
just to let you know
that God so loved the world
that he gave his one and only son.
Right there.
So now turn it up so we can hear.
I know your mother.
I know your grandmother before you.
So don't play with me, all right?
Be the one of you.
Get off that mic and go away from here right now.
I'll make this nation rise against you.
Do you understand me?
Do you understand me?
Don't play with the God that runs his earth.
Now back away.
In the name of Jesus.
Okay, so he's going to go on speaking
and explaining that a little bit.
So did you catch what the guy said?
I know your mother.
I know your father.
I know your grandmother.
So this is a familiar spirit
that was channeling through a stranger.
Familiar spirit to the man who was preaching.
Because he gave that away
when he said, I know your lineage.
Well, there's only one way.
It's familiar spirit.
And it's not a familiar spirit of the guy.
It's a familiar spirit of his.
And then it went on to make great boasts.
Have no idea if it has the authority or not.
If you don't stop preaching,
I'm going to bring this whole nation down on you.
Don't mess with the God of this world.
So now he's calling on,
because the only one who's God of this world
is Satan himself.
You know, he's the prince of power of the air.
He's got a lease.
So I better explain that.
He's got a lease for a few thousand years
to rule this world.
God created the world, owns the world,
but rented it out to man and man gave that over.
Jesus bought that back
for those of us who will receive that.
For Christians.
But the world is still
actually under the prince and power of the air.
We're the ones swimming upstream
saying we're not going along with this anymore
because we've been given authority over it.
Now if the whole world would turn to Jesus,
we could topple his authority.
But it's not happening.
So the thing I thought that was interesting there
is he said one time, he said,
I rebuke you.
The preacher did.
Notice he did not try to cast that spirit out.
That would have turned really ugly.
You say why?
Because the guy didn't come to be set free.
So now here's a principle
I learned early in ministry with everything.
Praying for people for healing,
casting out demons, no matter what it is.
Jesus did not minister to someone
who didn't want the ministry.
Please remember that.
You say we prayed for crowds of people.
Yes, they were all there
because they wanted to hear him preach
and see him heal and cast out demons.
They wanted in on this.
Show me one instance where Jesus
intruded into someone's life
and cast the demon out.
He never did.
They came to him wanting help.
That is a huge key.
This man did not come to him wanting help.
And this guy is smart enough to see it.
Like, oh no, I'm not going to get in a throwdown
with you right here.
Because that's what would have happened.
Even when Jesus went to the pool of Siloam,
he walked past, I don't know how many,
lots of people who were laying their sick and diseased.
He went to one man
and the first thing he said was,
I'm going to heal you.
What did he say?
Do you want to be healed?
He's making him come to him.
If the man would have said, no, I'm good.
Jesus would have walked on.
Well, I'm healing you anyway.
No, it doesn't work that way.
So that is a huge principle that I wanted to point out there.
And there's a couple of things that stand out.
You know, as you watch it, it's like, wow.
You could see it on the guy's face.
It wasn't a surprise.
It's like, oh, there's a divot.
Got to talk through him.
And then he starts in.
And there's just a few things that even the few things we heard,
we didn't hear everything, but the few things we heard,
we know what he was doing.
So now I want to say this.
Because if you watch the movie come out in Jesus' name,
or you've watched Bob Larson,
or, you know, there's numerous people out there.
There's a couple of guys from Africa
who have all kinds of YouTube videos
on casting out demons and things like that.
Everybody does it a little differently.
So I've said that before.
I want to remind you that there's not necessarily a right
or a wrong way to do deliverance.
Well, we don't do it like that.
That's fine as long as it works.
There's not a formula
that we have to follow exactly,
or Jesus would have put it in the Word.
It's not in the Word.
But I will say this.
There are some ways that work better than others.
And you learn that by experience.
Like, for instance, the lady with the little boy.
That's not the first demon she ever cast out.
Or she would have fallen into that,
and that would have turned funny, ugly.
There's some ways better than others.
And the reason I gave you steps,
and I'm going to emphasize the three greatest things
you need to memorize and remember.
If you're casting demon out of somebody else.
The reason I gave you steps into casting out demons
is not because it's the only way to do it.
I am not saying that.
From my experience, and that's how he taught me,
it makes it so much easier and efficient
if you do it that way.
You know, I've done this for over 40 years.
The first demon I got confronted with was in 1980.
And since then, I've had some really, really bad experiences
trying to cast out demons.
And I shared some of those in that first night.
I've had some really bad experiences,
especially at the beginning.
And, you know, if you want to have some bad experiences,
how about it?
Go do it however you want to do it.
And however she shakes out, you know, you'll learn.
It's not that the demons don't go.
It just turns into this fiasco before you get them out.
There's just some certain things,
and I gave you like six or seven things I do,
and I've got them memorized.
I've learned to memorize them,
but I'm going to give you the top three.
Now, you only can do this first one
if the demon goes down.
In other words, if a demon manifests,
make it go down and deal with the person first.
If the demon's not manifesting, deal with the person first.
And the first one is James 4-7.
This, to me, this is the golden scripture of deliverance.
Lead the person in repentance and renouncing.
Repentance is submitting to God.
Renouncing is resisting the devil.
Repentance of...
get them saved if they're not.
Do not try to cast demons out of somebody who's unsaved
because that don't go well either.
Because there's... I'm not saying you can't do it.
It just is... that usually becomes a real big problem.
Get them saved if you don't know what the sin is
that opened the gate or opened the door.
Lead them in a general prayer of repentance
and submitting to God.
Just general.
God understands.
He's not legalistic like the demonic side is.
He's very full of grace.
And if the attitude's there, he'll take care of the rest.
So lead them in a prayer of submission, repentance
and then lead them to, with their mouth,
renounce any demonic force you're after.
They need to renounce it.
It just makes it so much easier.
They need to resist.
Submit to God and resist the devil and he will flee.
That's number one.
James 4-7.
Get them to repent and renounce.
Number two.
Specifically, call out the strong man or the strong men.
You name it.
You don't have to name the demon.
But in the name of Jesus, I am dealing with the strong man here now.
Name it.
What happens is at least this what happened to me.
You get caught in situations.
Something's manifesting, especially if they get obnoxious
or a little wild with you.
And in the emotion of the moment,
you just start trying to cast them out.
And there was more times that, you know, early on,
that it's just, in the name of Jesus, I command you to...
And they do what that little boy was doing.
They just look at you and shake their head.
If they had access to the mouth through the brain,
then they'd start cussing you out.
They're trying to get your mind, trying to get doubt in there,
trying to get your faith.
And I would forget to go for the strong man.
And it's just, if I did it, chances are some of you are going to forget.
Repent, renounce.
Number one.
Number two.
I am not interested in anything else but the strong man.
Period.
So in Jesus' name, I am speaking to the strong man
or the strong men, in case there's more kingdoms connected here.
I'm speaking to them.
And then number three.
As the Holy Spirit sees, knows, and numbers,
and I'll give the story where that came from, that principle tonight.
As he sees, knows, and numbers, I bind you.
I wrap you up like I'm tying you with a cord, however you want to say it,
and I command you leave.
Now, some things I'll immediately throw in there,
because you just learn it.
I'll immediately go after generational stuff.
I mean, there's no reason to wait for him to get obnoxious with you.
Just hit it right away.
And if you're a generational demon, if you're a familiar spirit,
I cut off your source through the word of my mouth,
the blood of the Lamb, I have the authority to cut you away.
Because this person is saved, and they're not under your kingdom,
and I cut you off.
So you have no power to draw from and cast them out.
But those three things will make it so much easier
if the person will repent and renounce,
and then you specifically address.
Now, he doesn't have to speak back to you.
The spirit doesn't need to speak through the person.
They hear you. They know what's going on.
You specifically address the strong man,
and then number three, bind it as the Holy Spirit sees,
knows, and numbers everything in that kingdom,
everything in that realm, and cast them out.
I always add in going to the pit part,
the reconciliation part.
Sometimes I will say if there's nobody around me who will confuse,
if there's people around who will confuse,
that's kind of a standing thing that I've got between me and God,
that God will take care of that part for me.
If the demon has access to the brain,
you know, this is all just tidbits,
forbid it from coming back up.
You don't need it to speak to you.
You don't need it to be looking at you.
You don't need any of that.
It many times just makes it more difficult.
And something that I found took me quite a few years to find this,
but I finally found it.
Something that I found that works really well for me,
and I think it will work really well for everybody
because I'll give you the scriptural basis.
I command them to go,
and you can see the struggle sometimes.
They're hanging on with everything they got.
They're not wanting to go.
And I command them to go in Jesus' name,
and then from the depth of my spirit,
I'll breathe on them.
And as I'm breathing on them,
I'm picturing the breath of God driving them out.
That works so well.
You say, why would that work well?
Well, let me give you some scriptures on it.
The word spirit, whether it's human spirit,
God's spirit, Holy Spirit,
demonic spirit, fallen angel spirit,
the scripture uses one word for all of them.
In the Old Testament, it's ruach.
In the New Testament, it's numa.
And they both mean the same thing.
Breath or a movement of air.
That's how spirit is defined.
So on Acts 2, verse 2,
the day of Pentecost,
when the Holy breath came,
a wind blew through the place.
Well, that was him arriving.
That was the breath of God.
There you go.
And they went, whoa, I feel a breeze in here.
Yeah, that's the Holy Spirit.
He's showing up.
Because that's literally what the word spirit means,
is breath or movement of air.
Jesus said spirits are cast out
by the finger of God, Luke 11, 20.
And in Matthew 12, 28,
he says they're cast out by the Holy Spirit.
So the finger of God and the Holy Spirit
are one and the same thing.
Since the definition
or the meaning of the word Holy Spirit
is literally Holy Breath,
and since it's by the Holy Spirit
or the Holy Breath
that demons are cast out,
I just released my faith
with breath from my spirit.
And in my mind, I just picture them.
It's like if you had a quiet room
and there's dust in the air and you go,
it just blows it away.
You can see it go.
I just picture that same thing in my mind
and from the depth of me, I just release
not my breath,
but the breath of God.
And I'll just blow on them.
Once or twice, men,
they're moving.
They're going.
For me, it just works really well.
And I didn't learn that one for years.
Too old.
How does a saying go?
Old, too early, smart, too late?
Too late, smart.
Too old, too early.
You want to throw a question in immediately?
When we were singing, it's your breath
in our lungs.
It's your breath in our lungs.
The chorus we were singing.
It's your breath and it's a spirit in us.
Now you can think just physical breath,
but you can think physical breath
and spiritual breath.
Yep, yep, his breath.
Exactly.
Yeah, I won't get into that.
Let's move on or I won't get as far as I need to go.
So those are just a few little tidbits,
but now quickly, don't look at your notes,
quickly remind me.
Three things you have to remember when you're trying to cast a demon out of somebody else.
Number one, you're cheating.
Cheating, Molly.
You're going to have to repent.
Okay, anyway.
Number one,
Repent and renounce.
Get them to repent and renounce.
Number two,
verbally address the strongman.
Number three,
as
the Holy Spirit sees
those and numbers,
which I'm going to explain that thoroughly tonight yet.
So in these first two books,
we were trying to lay some basics
of how we were able to
how we live free
and how we can do self-deliverance.
I think first you need to get them saved.
The third book, yeah,
getting them saved helps. That helps.
The third book starts
with delivering other people
and there's going to be a lot of tidbits
we're going to fill in around that.
Like for instance,
we probably won't, well, maybe we'll get far enough
tonight that next week we'll talk about
transference of spirits.
Spirits can transfer between people.
And it's a godly principle.
He just perverts it.
So we'll talk about...
And this is important to know
because I had, you know, you learn this stuff
the hard way. It's just the best way to say it.
Because you can't get taught everything by people
and
the Holy Spirit will just teach you.
But I'm trying to cast, for instance,
I'm trying to cast a spirit out of
him
and he's sitting here holding her hand.
And while
I'm shoveling them out of him,
they're coming in
from her.
And you can go on for hours.
I've done it.
And it's like you're sitting there scratching
your head going,
how deep is this well?
I mean, this could go on forever.
And
very gently, the Holy Spirit said
tell him to quit holding hands.
So you think of,
you need to look for some big demonic thing
like somebody's got a snake in their purse
or, you know.
He said, just tell him to quit holding hands.
I said, could you quit holding hands, please?
And when he
let go of the other person's hand,
he literally slumped down
in the seat.
And I went,
that was the power source.
So the question,
that person didn't want deliverance.
The question I had is, what are they into?
Because
that person was the power source that was keeping
this one from getting free.
So it's just, you know,
spirits can transfer. So you learn stuff
over time after you get really, really frustrated.
But
the Holy Spirit's good.
He helps you.
So here's a question that
comes into this whole thing of strong men,
because the focus tonight is strong men.
We'll go another 30, 40 minutes before we
start going questions. See if we can get through this.
How many kinds of demons are there?
Not demons.
How many demons are there?
We're talking about how many kinds of demons.
Because they work in categories.
You've got spirits of lying.
You've got spirits of deceit.
You've got spirits of hate.
You've got spirits of...
Yep.
You've got the
familiar generational spirits.
You have regional demons.
Remember I mentioned...
I think it was that
a couple of weeks ago.
That when Bob Larson goes after demons,
one of the first things he finds out is
what is this person's heritage?
Are they German? Are they Swedish?
Are they Russian?
Because there are certain demons
that work with certain cultures.
And they won't cross over much.
Like for instance, the first...
in 1980, the first person
that I was casting a demon out,
once we finally...
and my mentor was helping me because I was
just dumb as a rock.
Thank God he was there.
But once we finally got
the demon to admit
its name,
well then we had it.
So I told the mentor, I said
this was the name it gave us,
Wadriyanaka.
He said that's an Indian
heritage demon.
He said was the person you're dealing with
Indian? I said I don't think so.
He said how in the world did that spirit
get into that family line?
You know, he was kind of puzzled.
Now maybe they have some native blood
and I didn't know about it.
But different cultures,
different regions, different parts of the world
have
demons that are specific to them.
With the Irish
you will find a lot of anger,
temper, outburst,
abuse, demons.
It just goes,
they say I'm Irish, I'll lose my temper.
No, you're Irish and you've got demons.
But they'll blame the...
Well, all Irish people
seem to have problems with this.
Hmm.
Isn't that a coincidence?
Why don't the people
who live 500 miles
in a different direction
have the same problem?
Because it's more of a cultural regional
thing.
And if you go through the cultures,
they stick out like a sore thumb.
What are the main weaknesses
in every culture? They're all different.
They're all different.
And they're all tied
to cultural demons.
So you
have demons for every kind
of sin. There's a category
of demons to help propel that.
So if you can think of anything that's a sin,
including
disobedience.
So let's go back to the snowmobiling
thing.
I was being tempted to be disobedient.
And I had
all these thoughts.
I shared some of them on that Sunday morning.
I had all these thoughts
going through my mind
to justify the fact
it will be okay if I do this
even though I knew in my spirit
God's saying don't do it.
Where were those thoughts coming from?
They were tempting me to disobey.
So you've got a whole category
of disobedience
demons.
And their whole job is to try to help
you disobey. And I knew these
thoughts weren't coming from me.
And we'll get
talking at one of the nights we're going to talk
about how you can recognize when a demon's
talking to you.
I knew these thoughts weren't coming from me.
And it was things like I said
that Sunday morning.
I'm 66 going on 67.
I can't take a few days off
and go snowmobiling. There's people
retiring at my age.
Doing nothing.
I can't take a few days.
See, in
sense and reasoning, that makes sense.
Yeah, I think you should. That'd be good.
Well, God didn't think so.
Do you know how many hours
I've put in in the last two weeks?
See, that's
where that thought come from.
What does that thought have to do
with obeying God?
Nothing.
Except it's trying to get you to disobey
and justify why you're doing it.
Yeah.
And there was just
finally when I said, you know, I'm not
doing it. I don't feel good about this.
No, I'm not going. Everything just
went quiet.
But as long as I was
contemplating
like I said, I reasoned
with God. Come on, God.
Really?
I can't go for a few days.
Well, see, now they go,
oh, oh, did you hear
what he said?
Let's help him make the wrong decision.
So whatever category of sin there is,
there's demons tied to it. There's regional demons.
There's familiar spirits. There's
there, I mean,
there's more than we can number
or count. God's got a number on him
and he can count him. He knows them all by name.
But we'll never go there.
That's why Jesus said
bind the
strong man.
Because you got the whole
kingdom if you've got the ruler
of that kingdom.
All you need is the strong
man. You don't even know
his name. You just call
him out. I'm talking
to you and everything.
The Holy Spirit sees
those and numbers that you're over.
It's attached to you.
So let's talk
background information here a bit.
Demons work on a military
authoritative system.
You all know the scripture for
our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
rulers, authorities, powers
of the dark world, and against spiritual
forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
You got four
things listed.
Rulers definition is principalities,
the chief ruler
or beings of the highest rank
and order in Satan's kingdom.
Well, if you've got
highest rank, you got lower rank.
So rulers is referring
to the highest rank right under Satan.
Authorities,
those who derive their
power directly from
the rulers and execute
the will of the chief rulers.
They're next
down in authority underneath the rulers.
Powers, these are world rulers
of the darkness of this age.
So their job
is to set the
stage for
the top two to be able
to do their thing.
Rulers of the darkness of the age
and spiritual forces
the definition is
spiritual wickedness
or the wicked spirits
in the heavenlies.
So you've got the chief rulers
the next one down
are the ones who do their will
and receive their power from them
then you've got the ones who set
the stage
and just kind of spread that
evil darkness as much as they can
wherever
it needs to be for these
upper ones to do their thing
and then you've got the last one
which is spiritual forces
they're the wicked spirits in the heavenlies.
So they're the ones
who are going to literally
work to carry this out
make this happen.
I don't believe demons
are any of them
because demons are not in the
heavenlies.
From my understanding and I could be wrong
but from my understanding demons are
attached to this world
so to speak. They can't fly
they can't hover
this is all fallen angels stuff
he's talking about here.
Colossians he talks about it again
but I wanted you to see the hierarchy
so demons would come in underneath
the spiritual forces or the ones that are
carrying out the making the will
or the top ones happen
they would be the ones ruling the demons
making the demons do what's supposed to be happening.
In other words
okay let's just go
with
oh let's take something really obvious
you got somebody like
Billy Graham
and he starts
affecting the world
that's going to get the attention
of Satan
so he is going to set up his
chief rulers
to stop that man
the chief rulers
will go
and give orders to the ones
right underneath him
this is what we're doing
then the third layer
And it can happen anywhere. It can happen in your home. It can happen at church service. It can happen anywhere.
You get in the church service and there just isn't freedom.
Bind that up. Get rid of that.
That's their job, to set the atmosphere for evil to take place.
And then the next one's in line.
Grab the commands and force it down into the demonic world and say,
you go do this and you go do that.
And they're the ones given the direction of how the demons are directed.
Colossians 1.16 and 2.10 say basically the same thing.
He adds two words there, thrones.
A throne or seat of power and authority and powers collectively rulers as in a government.
So he adds two things in Colossians 1 and 2.
In that you have thrones and the NIV calls it powers.
Thrones is the throne they're ruling from.
That is their seat of authority and powers is a governmental term,
which means we are running this thing like an organization.
So I say all that to say this.
There is a hierarchal system of authority in the demonic realm.
Why would there be?
Because that's what God has.
That's what God has.
God has a very hierarchal system of how things run and operate in the kingdom of God.
So he imitates that.
So I'll read through this and then we'll talk about it.
Here's how I was taught when I came in to deliverance.
You had to have the hierarchal authority system
by their order, top down, and category,
or you can throw category in.
If you had their name, you didn't need the category.
If you didn't have the name, you needed the category.
From top down, that category could be some realm of sin.
It could be a main geographical region.
It could be a culture.
It could be kinds of religious beliefs,
like for instance Middle Eastern stuff.
That's a whole category in of itself.
Buddhism, you get dealing with Buddhism spirits.
That's exactly what there are.
There are spirits attached to that religious belief system.
And you'll end up addressing them as such.
But the way I was taught, you've got to have this in order.
Now, thank God I got delivered from that.
But there's pieces of that that still come in.
Okay, so let me explain what that looked like.
Then I'll explain what we tend to do now
and why I'm so thankful I'm free of it.
What that looked like is he had the...
Of course, let's back up a little bit.
He grew up in a Satan worship family.
And that's all they did was Satan worship.
And he said every supper there would be a horn
that would float through the air and come.
And there'd be a demon that would speak to him through
like a trumpet or a horn, giving them instructions.
And he said this was all just normal.
It was Satan worship stuff.
They all saw in the spirit realm.
They all had their own demons that they could send out
and get things accomplished and done.
And so he was very aware of how the whole thing worked
because he operated in it and with it.
So when he got saved and God started using him in deliverance,
he knew the names of a lot of these demons
and their authority structure.
So he began...
The Lord had him begin to just kind of call these things out
by name.
Because if we're dealing with this problem,
well, I know that spirit and I know the spirit above that.
And so that's how he operated.
And I gave you a little bit of...
At some point, I don't know if it was the first night or when it was,
but I gave you a little bit.
I want to give you a little bit more
because I want you to see some things here.
So for instance, and I kept...
I kept just enough of the names and categories and stuff
just to remind me of how good God is
that I don't need these anymore.
But he had three-ring binders that were the three-enters.
They were that thick and he would have four or five of them
sitting beside the chair when he was doing deliverance.
And once he could see what the category was,
he'd pull out the three-ring binder
and he'd go down the names and call them out
and there you go.
And I said, well, what do those of us who don't have a clue
about this do?
Well, you just got to ask the Holy Spirit.
He'll tell you.
It's like, okay.
And he did, but boy, it was a cumbersome system.
Like, for instance, I'll give you two areas.
The first one is the one we'll dwell on.
Major controllers of the conscious mind.
There are demons who their major purpose is,
or demons at that lower level of fallen angels
who work with the demons,
who their whole purpose is to try to control
your conscious thinking.
And then there's a whole group of them
that try to control your subconscious mind.
But the conscious mind,
here was what I had written.
I just pulled it out.
Here was the main ones.
Queen Mother, Empress, Supreme,
Computar and King,
Computarius.
They are mind control
and they will try to...
to cause...
What their ultimate goal is,
is to try to get the person's brain
hooked into a spiritual source that's not God.
And one of the dead giveaways
is when people feel like they have a clamp on their head.
That is like, yep, that's mind control.
And you wouldn't believe how many people
live with a feeling of, you know,
I just lay down in bed and it just feels like
there's just this little clamp on my head.
That's that bunch right there.
And as you notice, it was...
Well, it could be Queen Mother,
it could be Queen Mother Empress.
That's a category up.
And you could be Queen Mother Empress Supreme.
That's a category up from there yet.
And in Satan's kingdom,
at least at that time, this is 40 years old.
So at that time,
and I presume it still stays the same,
the female dominates the male.
So the queen is the ultimate ruler
and the king is just to support that.
You say, well, is there...
Here was my first question.
So there's male and female demons.
And this was his answer.
Now, stop and think about this.
This is going to really be intriguing for you.
This was his answer.
He said, I don't think so.
He said, they're identifying
as males and females.
And the female rules the male
because in God's kingdom,
the male is responsible for the female.
So it's a flip.
And he said, all they're doing is identifying
with that sex.
Now put that into today.
And it's like, well, these people
who are identifying with a different sex,
there could be a source to that.
That's not God.
Just saying.
The next group was a lower group,
Queen Mother Computarium.
A little different name.
This and her king,
Computaria.
And when you were calling them up,
you had to pronounce their name correctly.
Or they'd say, that's not me.
Instead of Molly, if I'd say Molly.
Well, you're not talking to me
because I'm not Molly.
I'm Molly.
Really legalistic.
The demonic realm was really legalistic.
That was even brought up
on the movie last night.
That demons are really legalistic.
And they referred back to Job.
And that is a really good example.
What Satan, the exchange with God
that Satan had, very legalistic,
very, you can, you can't,
here's the law kind of thing.
They're really legalistic.
But anyway, this one deals with
physical things like eating,
working and sleeping.
So if they can get mind control
established with you
and turn you into a workaholic,
so much the better.
Keep you from being able to sleep
so much the better.
Out of control eating
or anorexia.
Not eating at all.
One extreme of the other.
From what he said
when I'm dealing with anorexia,
anorexia is mind control.
Bulimia is mind control.
And he'd start listening
that people are thinking a certain way.
They're being influenced to think a certain way.
They're dead tired
and they get in bed.
He says, these are the ones I go after,
the ones I just named.
He said, and I'll call him
and what he did is he called him up.
He said, I want to know
they're there before I cast them out.
He said, I don't cast stuff out,
I don't talk to.
It's like, will you go ahead
and have that?
I don't like that method.
But Queen Mother Computarium,
she works in the physical realm under that...
See, first we need to get that clamp
or that access to the mind established.
That's the first two.
Once it's established,
the lower level demon comes in,
which we just read how that works
out of Ephesians, Colossians.
Then the next one comes in to do their will.
The lower ones deal with physical things
like eating and sleeping
and working and physical.
It could be any kind of physical thing.
And what they're trying to do
is cause you to be a certain way
that's not you.
So that's the Queen Mother
and her King, Computaria,
is very rigid and regimented.
His thing is to make you feel
like you're caught in a prison.
I can't stop.
Well, why don't you just stop?
I can't stop.
You're locked in bondage.
That was his purpose.
That was his thing.
So I sat in deliverance sessions with him
and you'd have somebody sitting there
who's struggling with this one particular person
who's struggling with anorexia.
And he just pulled out his book.
I'm looking for mind control.
I said, what are you looking for?
He said, I'm looking for mind control.
That's the problem here.
You opened it up.
He listed more than that off
because that's the way he worked.
He listed that off and he said, are you here?
That was the response.
I guess you are.
He said, I want to know they're here.
Then he just went and bound them up
and cast them out
and laid hands on the person,
prayed for healing of their brain
because now their brain's been affected
to think a certain way.
The demon's gone, but they're still going to think that way.
So pray for the, like Mary would explain,
they need new neurons.
They need new tree clusters.
They've been using a certain way of thinking
and a new one has to grow now.
So he'd pray over them and this, that and the other
and a subject.
And it looked so easy until I tried to do it.
It was like that was just like hell.
Because they'd come right out and say,
hey, you don't know my name, do you?
It's like, you don't want to admit it.
It's like, maybe.
And you'd sit there just
beating on things.
So let's talk about mind control a little bit.
Mind control is also known as manipulation,
thought reform, brainwashing,
mental control.
Like for instance, the lady that was casting
the spirit out of the familiar spirit out of that child,
his identity was being dealt with.
He wasn't going to see himself the way God wanted him to see himself.
That is mind control.
It's brainwashing, mental control,
thought reform,
coerce of persuasion,
coerce of control,
goes on, describes it a little bit.
He says, let's just sum it up by saying
mind control comes under the umbrella of persuasion
and influence, trying to change people's beliefs
and behaviors
without them realizing the input that's going in.
That's doing it.
So, I'll give you one other source I found on it,
and I'll just give you a little bit.
The soul is the mind, will and emotions.
The mind decides what the body will do
and then send instructions to the body.
When mind control demons are present,
they fight your spirit at every turn,
because the mind's in the middle
and the spirit's trying to get into our thinking
and the demonic is trying to be in our thinking.
It becomes very difficult to obey God
even though you want to.
It's the battle of the mind.
So mind control, here's how they do it.
And this will all be in your book.
It's not in our handout, but it's on your book
when that comes out.
Number one, they add thoughts to your mind.
For instance, when Jesus had the thought
to betray Jesus, it says that when
he dipped his bread in with Judas,
because he said,
one of you sitting here is going to betray me.
And who? Not me, Lord, not me.
He said, the one who is dipping with me
and evidently Judas had dipped and Jesus went,
and from that moment it says what?
Something happened.
From that moment Satan entered him.
He said, go do what you're planning to do.
Well, the idea of betraying Jesus
had been there the whole time.
It came from Satan himself.
And it was strong enough that Judas was already,
he already had kind of set this up.
But once he was discovered,
that's when the door was open,
Satan himself jumped in and said,
we're going to finish this.
We're going to deal with this.
It's an adding of thought to your mind.
That's one way mind control works.
Peter, where did Peter get the idea
Jesus should never go to the cross?
Well, Jesus told us.
Satan get behind me.
So, again,
influencing or putting something into the mind
so that it changes the verbiage,
changes the thinking, changes the beliefs,
changes the actions of the person.
Mind control.
One way is to put thoughts in.
The second way is to subtract thoughts out.
For instance, parable of the sower.
The seed that is sown on hard ground
never grows and takes root.
What happens?
Jesus said that the birds come
and then when he explained it to the disciple,
who was the birds a picture of?
Satan.
Satan comes and removes the word
before it ever takes root in their heart.
So now he's subtracting thoughts.
You know, I went to the neighbors
and they explained the gospel to me.
And it made sense at the time, but you know what?
It's just bits and pieces.
Now, I can't remember how it goes.
Yeah, that's mind control.
There's people who, and my book,
my Bible's in here, so I got to use this for the example.
There's people who can read a chapter
and can't remember a thing they read.
That's mind control.
Now, I always check for some mental problem.
Like, for instance, there was one person I was dealing with
and this demon was just being ugly.
So I said to the person, I got rid of the demon,
I didn't cast it out, I got it to go down.
So I handed my Bible to the person.
I said, and the thing that was the most powerful
was always the words written in red.
And the biggest group of them is a sermon on the Mount.
So we'd start at Matthew 5.
Here's Matthew 5, start reading it.
And the person...
I said, go ahead and start reading it.
I can't read it. Why?
It's blurry, I can't read a word.
Okay, mind control.
Take authority over that.
This person is saved, not of your kingdom.
This person will read the Word of God.
Okay, read it. Is it clear now?
Yep, it's clear.
Why aren't you reading? It's upside down.
I said, well, that's easy.
Now I'll read it. It's still upside down.
No matter how you turned it, it was upside down.
That's mind control.
So then we had to deal with that.
It's subtracting from you.
You can't put in what needs to go in.
It's subtracting from you.
You've got the example in Luke 8.
Parable of Saur, same thing as in Mark 4.
I believe it's Mark 4, yeah, Parable of Saur.
And then you've also got 2 Corinthians 4.
Verse number 4, which says what?
The God of this world has blinded the minds
of the unbelievers.
Well, you can be a Christian and be an unbeliever.
I mean, that's not saying unsaved.
It's saying people who don't believe in certain things.
Like, for instance, there's a lot of Christians
who don't believe in speaking in tongues.
And the God of this world has blinded their minds
that if you don't get that off of them,
they will never believe in speaking in tongues
because they can't say it.
It's mind control.
We had a teacher at Bible College
who said he was a pastor before.
He said, I had a Jehovah Witness come in
and he wanted to know our side of it.
So he said, we went round and round and round and round.
He said, I couldn't convince that guy.
He said, and we were having, like, weekly appointments.
He said, I just couldn't show it to you.
He could not see it.
He said, and the Holy Spirit told him.
He said, well, he's blocked. He can't see it.
Well, what do I do? Break the block.
He said, so the next time he came in,
he said, can I pray for you?
The guy said, sure.
He said, can I lay hands on you?
He said, sure.
He said, so I got around behind him.
I laid my hands on his head
and I demanded whatever demon
was keeping him from seeing the gospel.
That it release him and let him go.
And then I took him to John 1
and I said, read the first chapter of John
because they were, at that time,
they did not believe Jesus was God.
I think they've changed that some,
but at that time they did not.
He said he started reading
and he said his eyebrows went down
and his eyes got big.
He said he didn't make it halfway through that chapter
and he went, I have never seen this before.
He said, what did you do to me?
That was mind control.
See, his mind was being controlled
from being able to see the truth.
So it'll happen in one way, or two ways.
They'll put thoughts in
or they'll take thoughts out
or scripture out.
And then you've got the mind controllers
of the subconscious mind.
And I'll just give you this real quick.
We won't take the time to talk about this.
Again, you've got queen mothers
and kings and blah, blah, blah.
Queen mother televort is over violence,
extreme violence,
and then her king is televortious,
which is over sex, crime, murder, rape, child abuse
and child abuse.
Now this subconscious mind.
So the person just seems to be a violent person.
They've been a violent person since they were a little kid.
And as they get older,
they're violating other people
in sex, crime, murder, rape, child abuse.
Mind control.
Well, why are some people just so violent?
Mind control.
He would have said,
you've got to go after those two.
Those two have mind control in this person.
And it's not conscious mind control
because you can ask them,
why are you doing this?
I don't know.
It's subconscious driving them.
There's another couple of names
that doesn't make any difference.
What the names are.
The queen mother is over prison
like a sanitarium.
Now what's the difference between a sanitarium
and a normal prison?
Anybody know?
Sanitarium deals with the cuckoo people.
Mind problems.
The queen mother is over the prison of the mind
so she brings, if she can gain mind control
she will lock them in a prison in their own mind.
And we will describe it like
they're like in their own world.
Well, yeah.
They're in a prison in their own mind.
And then her king comes along behind
and this makes perfect sense.
And once you hear this,
it's going to be like, oh yeah, I see that.
So the person is locked away in their own mind.
They're having problems even getting contact
with the real world.
And the king who works with her
is the one who pushes suicide and death.
So you got someone locked up in their brain
and they can't break free
and the main thoughts that keep coming in
just kill yourself.
Just kill yourself. Just die.
Just end this. Just kill yourself. Just die.
Mind control.
So the way he operated,
we're still dealing with strong men.
The way he operated
and the way I learned to operate that first...
I'm going to say it took six, eight months
before I got past this.
I don't remember timing, I'm guessing.
But the way he did it
is when he realized what the problem was,
he would just start naming the demons
according to their hierarchy
from the ones we read in Ephesians
from right under Satan,
right down to the demon
that's actively working there.
He knew what, who was doing what.
He would just name them off,
bind them all together and cast them out.
So easy
till I try to do it,
till you try to do it.
And it's like,
I can't even pronounce these names.
Much less
figure them out.
You know, who's doing what.
And like I said,
they're extremely legalistic
and they...
You heard, you heard,
if you watched that movie,
they brought it up.
And we haven't talked about this yet.
They establish what they call
as a contract.
The contract is based on
generational sin or our sin.
Which gives them the legal right
to be there.
And that, you know,
if they ever start talking
through a person and you say,
why aren't you going?
They'll flat out tell you,
I got a contract.
I don't have to leave.
What they're saying is
there's sin ground
that hasn't been dealt with yet.
That's what they're saying.
So you got to clean that up.
And you don't have to know
specifically what it is.
Go to James 4-7.
Submit to God.
Repent.
And then resist.
Renounce this stuff.
Whatever it is.
God, you know what this is.
I don't need to know.
It could take me five years
to figure it out.
You know what it is.
We renounce it.
We want nothing to do with it.
Cut off any generational stuff.
And it's amazing how quick things
change.
But they're very legalistic.
But they work very much
in a hierarchical system.
Kingdoms.
It's like a system of government.
And they take care of each other.
So that's the way he operated.
And it worked for me kind of.
But it was so cumbersome.
It would take you hours
to list this stuff
and to find this stuff
and deal with this.
It would just take forever.
And it's like, God deliver me of it.
And I gave you the story on that one.
But there is another way
the same thing is done.
And I noticed it last night.
Naming the categories of the demons.
Your spirit of adultery.
Your spirit of lust.
Your lying spirit.
This is a kingdom of deceit.
And they take authority over the categories.
Guess what?
The same way if you miss a name.
Not me.
The same way as if you miss a category
in the kingdom.
They might act like they're going.
And the person feels so free.
And maybe you got a few of them gone.
And the person is feeling so good.
I always say give them a month.
Let's see where they're at.
The truth comes out in time.
Because right up front everything can be a deception.
Give them a month.
Let's see where they're at.
So for instance, I just wrote one down here.
If you've got a kingdom,
you've got the strong man over the kingdom.
Let's say the kingdom is primarily a kingdom of adultery.
In that kingdom, you're going to...
That person must have struggled with lust
to get into adultery.
I mean, they're always tied together.
In that kingdom, you might find a whole bunch of things,
but you also might find like abuse.
If they're a married guy or woman,
they probably abuse their spouse verbally,
emotionally, otherwise, because they're in adultery.
So you've got abuse set up there.
Chances are 99% they're lying to somebody.
Because they're living a life of lies.
And underneath it all, you might find something like
hate, wounds of some kind, something in there.
So you've got five things going on in this particular kingdom.
Well, I take authority over this spirit of adultery
and lust.
And I bind you.
And if there's any hate or abuse here, you're going with.
And in Jesus' name, I cast you out.
You missed one.
You missed lies.
Now here's what happens, because it happened to me
over and over until finally God set me free
of the whole thing.
They're extremely deceptive.
And they are listening to you with everything.
And remember, they live in the spirit realm.
They can move much quicker than we can.
They can do things much quicker than we can.
So you're going down the list.
Adultery, lust, abuse, hate.
I think that's all of them.
Lord, is there anything else?
And we're human. We miss things.
I think that's all of them.
They know good and well.
There's another two, three categories in that kingdom you missed.
They're extremely legalistic.
And they will temporarily switch the authority
to the one you missed.
This is a kingdom of adultery.
By the time you're done thinking a minute later,
it's no longer a kingdom of adultery.
It's a kingdom of lies.
And nobody goes.
Because I take authority over the strongman of adultery
and I cast them out.
And they're going...
This isn't a strongman of adultery.
This is a strongman of lies.
And you never said my name.
They're extremely legalistic.
And extremely deceptive.
And they'll play games with you.
Now they don't have to obey you.
Because you submitted yourself to a system
that you can't find in Scripture.
You know, just be honest with me.
Now we know there's all kinds of spirits.
Spirits of adultery. Spirits of hate.
Spirits of stealing or theft.
Spirits of anger.
I mean, there's all kinds of spirits.
But even with Jesus,
did you ever see Jesus
list the spirits in a kingdom?
He never did once.
And I was so frustrated
because I started with this name stuff,
which worked great for him
because of where he came from.
It worked great for him.
And so be it, God bless him.
That was ugly for me.
So I got over into...
I got free of that.
Instead of calling them their real name,
I called them their category name.
And that didn't work much better.
Because I just wasn't sharp enough
to catch everything.
And it just didn't work.
So between me and my mentor,
I said, you know, I'm pretty much done with this.
If this is how deliverance goes,
I am taking hours
listing off all kinds of categories
and stuff, trying to get people free.
I said, I'm sick of it.
I can't find it in Scripture.
Well, you have a point there.
It's like, yes, I do.
And I'm angry.
He said, well, he said,
I'll give you a little secret.
Good, you should have gave it to me way back.
That's what I felt like when he gave it to me.
He said, there are times he says,
I just don't get the information.
It's just, I know I'm missing things.
He says, and this is what I do.
Since it's the Holy Spirit who's driving them out,
as the Holy Spirit sees, knows, and numbers everything here,
I bind you all together.
And I cast you out.
Oh, that works so nice.
Why didn't you tell me that a long time ago?
So that little piece of information to me
is a jewel beyond price.
And it sets, you know, there might be a time
the Holy Spirit will give me something
and he'll say, this is a spirit of pride
or this is a spirit of deception
or this is a spirit of nicotine or whatever.
And if he gives me a name, I'll call it out.
But then I will add with it
and anything and everything you're working with,
whatever this kingdom is, as the Holy Spirit
sees, knows, and numbers all of you.
He knows every one of you, how many there are.
He knows you by name. He sees you.
According to his knowledge, I bind you all together.
And I will cast you out as a group.
And I skip trying to name everything.
Because it just, number one, it's not in Scripture.
And number two, it does work.
But it's really, really, really difficult.
So I don't really care what the strongman is.
It makes no difference to me.
Jesus didn't say you got to know the category of the strongman.
He said just bind the strongman.
Which that's the handout. We'll get into that next week.
And just, it's real brief. From here it's real brief.
You just go through it and it gives you some information.
Jesus said bind the strongman.
If you don't bind the strongman, you're not going to take possession of his house.
Well, this is the house.
You were trying to get possession of that back
because strongman is messing around with it.
Bind the strongman.
So I don't care what the strongman is anymore.
Makes no difference. I don't care what you are.
I don't care if you got in through a seance.
I don't care.
I'm going to bind you according to what my partner knows.
And I've got the authority to deal with you,
especially once they've renounced you.
You got no ground left.
So get out. Period.
I don't need any more than that.
Now the thing we have to remember, there's a reason they were there.
And that goes back to the first two books.
And I have one thing laid out here in the...
We have a handout, a second handout.
I repeated some of the things in the books.
And this one says,
The core of the problem is humans is sin and not the demonic or the devil.
We don't get rid of demons to fix our sin problem.
We get rid of sin to fix the demonic problem.
Now that doesn't mean you have to be victorious over your sin
because if the demons are still there, you're going to struggle in areas.
You have to be repentive.
Submit yourself to God and begin to want that out.
I am so done with this thing in my life.
God, I submit myself to you.
I am. I ask forgiveness.
I repent. I want to go the other way.
The problem is it seems like it's got a throat hold on me.
And I last for a few days.
I last for a week or two and I'm back doing it again.
And it's just like I'm driven to it.
And here's a huge key.
God does not drive us. He leads us.
If you feel driven in any area, it's demonic.
God does not drive his people.
He leads his people.
So, I'll give you one more story and then we'll open for questions.
Molly, you want to do the mic thing tonight?
Okay, I'll lay it right here.
So when I was learning this in that 18, 24 months, whatever that was.
When I was learning this, there was one person that I and another guy were praying over.
And I don't think it was an open vision, but it could have been.
It was so vivid.
I saw this humongous castle setting on a hill.
And the landscape was just beautiful.
It was gorgeous. It was green.
And there was big boulders and outcroppings and trees.
And it was just the wind was blowing.
It was just gorgeous.
And I'm thinking, why am I seeing this one?
I'm trying to cast the email out because they weren't going.
They were, they had access to the facilities of the person
and they were just being belligerent and talking and all kinds of stuff.
And he showed me this vision.
I'm going, I don't get this.
I had no idea what he was showing me was a kingdom.
He was showing me a physical picture of a spiritual kingdom.
And there was a nice road going through it.
And you could see little rocks on the road.
And if I remember right, one of the rocks and it's like I was looking into a picture
and the road came right up to me and I looked in.
And if I remember right, the thing caught my attention as I saw a rock move by itself.
And I went, that ain't right.
So I said, whatever that is, Lord, that I just saw, that ain't right.
I take authority over that.
Boom! Immediately a demon was up screaming at me in the person.
I cast you out. I got rid of it.
Still seeing this picture.
Well, then something else stood out to me as kind of funny.
And I spoke about it.
A demon came up.
We were picking apart that picture for two hours.
Literally.
Every blade of grass.
Every rock.
Every tree.
The wind was blowing.
I take authority over anything that is being...
Finally, I caught on.
That picture is representing a kingdom of demons in this person.
And I took authority over the wind and they...
This thing came up that was just angry.
And a piece at a time, we were casting it out.
And we were going, it was about two hours.
And the guy who was with me said,
I have an idea.
It was a God idea.
It's like, I'm so busy involved with what's going on.
It's like, I...
He said, is it possible to get rid of the whole picture at once?
It's like, I remember a lot of that.
That might be a good idea.
So, so then he and I talked.
While there was one sitting here just kind of growling.
He and I talked.
I said, so let me explain the picture to you.
And I did this.
He said, well, the castle's got to be headquarters.
He said, and there's something in the castle.
He said, we're just dealing with all this garbage
that's out front on the landscape.
We got to go after the one in the castle.
He said, could that be the strongman?
I bet you God goes...
Really, guys?
I mean, it's not that hard to figure out.
I said, I bet it is.
He said, I'll agree with you.
Let's take authority over anything in the castle
that's running this kingdom we see.
And let's get rid of the whole works.
So we did that.
It was all gone.
And I'm going, there's got to be something in this I can learn.
Well, by that point, it was once it was gone
and the person was back and everything was calm.
Everything was peaceful.
And he said, I'll bet you that's what he was trying to teach us.
Don't mess around picking at all the stuff that comes up.
Go after the strongman
and throw the whole kingdom out at once.
It was awesome.
So from then on, we learned our lesson about the strongman.
I'll bet you that's what Jesus meant.
Find the strongman.
It's like, yeah, baby.
But you don't think of it.
I don't know why we're just so carnal thinking, I guess.
You just don't think of it.
But that worked really good.
So that is, let me give this yet.
So you say, how do you find the strongman?
It's very easy.
You got somebody that you're praying over.
You just say, I am addressing the strongman of this kingdom
that is plaguing this person.
You don't need to know the name of the kingdom.
You don't need to know the category of the strongman.
You don't need to know nothing.
I bind that strongman and his kingdom or kingdoms
because they usually tie together.
It's a safety thing.
And like I said, they'll swap and rearrange.
And I bind everything that's working with this strongman according to
what the Holy Spirit sees, knows, and numbers.
And now I got all of you.
And I tie you together as a group and in Jesus' name,
I don't care what the situation is, get out.
It just works so nice.
It's just, that's how he taught me.
And that's the strongman.
That's the concept of the strongman.
And I took the long tourist trip to figure that one out.
And that was an ugly scenic drive.
It might work for some people.
There's people like, for instance, the Muvia Watch.
They call out the categories and this, that, and the other.
And I thought, well, that's cool.
They know a lot about deliverance.
If it works for them, God bless them.
Remember, don't criticize somebody who, however God is using them,
just that's between them and God.
God bless them.
But I sat there watching that movie thinking,
oh, thank God, I've been down that road.
And it's so, so I don't want that anymore.
Thank God.
So that was the journey that brought me to the point of,
I don't care what the situation is.
And I like to shut them down and get the person to pray and renounce
before we kick them out.
But if they refuse to go down, I'll tell them.
We can do this the hard way or we can do this the easy way,
but you're going.
And if you refuse to go down, I'll cast you out right now.
And it's going to be worse because it's more painful on them.
Because literally they're hanging on to their power source
and it's being ripped right out of them.
But like for instance at Open Heavens,
when the one girl just started screaming over here
and going after, I got down there and I said,
I know what you are and you're not going to continue this.
Go down, I want to talk to her.
The more I said, I command you to go down in Jesus' name,
the louder it got.
I finally said, I'm playing this game with you.
You either go down or I'm casting you out right now.
So I did what I taught you.
I stated my authority, who I am, why I have authority here.
This girl came to our service.
She's now under our jurisdiction.
And I knew she was saved.
She's not of your kingdom.
So in the name of Jesus,
strong man, I am speaking specifically to you
and I just went through it like I just went through it with you here.
And according to the way the Holy Spirit sees what's going on here
and knows and numbers you, He called you by name.
I bind you all together.
And in Jesus' name, get out now.
Oh, then it goes...
I don't know, 15, 20 seconds and it was gone.
I don't like that route necessarily,
but sometimes they give you no choice.
They're going to act out.
They're trying to get attention.
They're trying to throw everything in the ditch,
the service or whatever.
And they're just not going to obey you.
Well, I'll just cast you out this way.
You're going either way.
So it's up to you.