Page 11, number two. When people are in sin, you can tell by the presence that goes with them.
That is something we need to train ourselves in.
When people have demonic problems, you should feel it when you step into their presence.
That shouldn't be a surprise. You should be able to feel it.
If they are into certain realms of sin, you should be able to feel it.
The same way God inhabits the praises of His people, so does the devil.
Remember, He can't create anything new. The laws that God has created is how it works.
All He can do is pervert them.
So the same way if we praise the devil like we praise God, which how do we praise God?
Romans 12, 1 and 2.
Offer your bodies a living sacrifice, which is your reasonable worship.
So again, it goes back to what Paul says in Romans 6, 7 and 8.
If we are offering ourselves, we are actually worshiping.
Now you really got to remember that.
We are actually praising and worshiping when we offer ourselves to sin.
And the same way God inhabits the praises,
the kingdom of darkness will inhabit the praises.
And I go back to that night.
This is where we are. We're 23.
So this would be 42 years ago.
I go back to that night when that demon refused to leave.
And it said, you have no right to cast me out because you worship the same God I do.
I said, who do you worship? Lucifer. They don't call him Satan because Satan means the fallen one, the deceiver.
They call him Lucifer, the morning star.
Lucifer. I said, I do not worship Lucifer.
And as I was speaking through the person, it looked right at me and said, yes, you do.
You celebrate Halloween.
Well, that ain't worship. Yes, it is. It was adamant.
Well, I offered myself in my body.
Halloween is the high satanic holiday of the year.
And we're going to get into something a little later on the lunar cycles.
Every full moon is a satanic holiday.
Everyone.
And then Halloween is the high holiday.
Well, scripture talks about being vexed with the lunar cycle.
You maybe don't know that, but it talks about it.
And we'll, I don't know if we'll get there tonight, so I'll just mention it briefly.
If you talk to law enforcement, to emergency room workers, to jailers, to anybody in that realm,
they can tell you within two or three days without even knowing when the full moon is.
Because people just get crazy.
That's why they're called, let me back up and give you a thought,
lunar cycle, moon cycle.
That's why they call them lunatics.
Because their goofiness is tied to the cycle of the moon.
That's demonic.
And we'll show it to you in scripture here once we get there,
but it goes back again to that presence and that whole thing.
And it helps us if we will recognize the presence.
Like for instance, I said don't watch that video.
Because the presence on that video is really evil and really bad.
It's extra strong.
So just stay away from it.
I watched, I didn't watch the whole thing.
I just watched a bit of it and it's like, yeah, I don't need this.
And it is just nasty.
Learning to recognize the presence that goes with people,
the presence that goes with items.
Now that you know, we talked about it last week,
have any of you gone any place where they sell liquid death,
that can of stuff that has cursed?
Just pick it up and look at it.
Read the paragraph.
The paragraph describes exactly what they're doing.
You will sense the presence.
And it's not God.
But we have to practice these things.
We have to sharpen our discernment on things.
Learning to discern good from evil.
That's the main thing I'm trying to point out there.
I'm going to rewrite that second paragraph.
It's not 100% tied to unresolved anger.
That's worded wrong.
I'm going to rewrite that.
And I'm going to add any emotional wounds and lies and etc.
What do we do?
We've talked about, excuse me, we've talked about that already.
Go over to page 12.
So this is putting into writing many things we've already talked about.
Here you've got the other, you've got it written, at least.
First paragraph, I've heard people say when I try to live for God,
everything goes wrong in my life.
Oh man, I've heard so many people say that.
Especially the first ones out.
If you have no heritage of Christianity and you got saved,
I've heard these people say this over and over.
When I try to live for God, everything goes wrong in my life.
If I back off living for God, it gets better.
And then I'll explain that next sentence.
So let's talk about that first.
And this is especially true if they try to start giving financially to God.
I mean, it could be a dollar a week.
Because financial giving, according to Scripture,
1 Corinthians, has the power to break every stronghold in our life.
Every one of them can be broken with financial giving.
In fact, who is the guy with the March of Dimes?
No, no, the original one.
Was it a Rockefeller?
The rule of dimes that just went...
I don't remember how far, but I think it was miles.
He was laying dimes down.
Do you know why he did that?
He was dying of a disease.
And he wanted to do something that would help people.
So he got this wagon's load of dimes,
and he started laying them.
And if you just look it up and read the details to it,
by the time he was done laying the dimes,
his disease was gone.
It's crazy.
Literally, financial giving has the ability
to cancel everything that comes against us.
So when someone who's a newbie out,
I mean, they're the first ones out.
If they will start giving a dollar a week in the offering,
I can almost guarantee their life is going to turn upside down.
Things will break.
The car won't run.
You got to put 500 bucks into it.
The tires were pretty good.
You hit something, blew one out.
You got a four-wheel drive.
Now you got to replace all four of them
because they got to be the same size all the way around.
And it's just, you get sick.
You end up in the emergency room.
It's just crazy.
The washing machine breaks just goofiness.
So then they don't have the money to put in the dollar a week,
and they quit.
And within a couple of months, everything starts clearing up.
And all the trouble goes away.
And then they start getting money again.
So they start putting the dollar a week in.
And it doesn't take them long.
They start recognizing a cycle.
The cycle is not, it's not the giving that's the problem.
The giving is revealing how strongly demons have a hold on their life.
How strongly the generational curses have a hold.
And when they start giving, they start freaking out.
And what they already have access to.
So now, stop and think about this.
Again, go back to the principle we taught last couple of weeks.
If God can do it, if God promotes it, if it's real in God's kingdom,
it will be imitated and perverted in the devil's kingdom
because he can't come up with anything new.
He can't create.
He just takes what God's created and he perverts it and applies it.
So if it's true what Scripture says,
that through our financial giving, we can abound in all things
at all times having all that we need in every situation.
That's what it says.
If that's true, money is tied to how the physical realm reacts around us, including our bodies.
So if that's the law,
the physical realm can react when the demonic has power and has a hold.
And you start touching money, they can start shaking things too.
Because God has the right to shake things.
He can shake disease right out of you.
They will try to shake disease right into you.
I've never been so sick.
I just, I don't know what to do.
And I'm just saying things that have been told to me.
How long have you been saved?
A year and a half.
First question I usually ask.
Have you started giving?
Yeah, about two months ago.
We're not tithing though.
We can't afford tithing.
We're just giving a little bit.
It's all it takes.
Because they feel extremely threatened.
Because you are, by faith, releasing the thing
that will bring complete freedom to your life.
This is why religious people, demonized people,
people who don't understand,
hate when you talk about prosperity.
They hate it.
I mean, Mary talked to me again about it.
She said, we just got to keep hitting this thing.
And I said, well, yeah,
it might be a time I need to do some preaching on it again.
She says, because every time in prayer I bring up prosperity,
the place just goes tight.
Do you know why that is?
Well, people have been taught wrong.
No, you're feeling the spiritual atmosphere.
You're feeling the demons in the people flaring.
Now, you can talk about sin and you don't get that.
You can talk about all kinds of things and you don't get that.
But you touch money and it's like,
eww, this atmosphere thing rises up.
Why? Because they know
that is, how would you say,
one of the master keys to freedom.
And if they lose this person
and they actually start consistently giving
and our goal is tithing and beyond, yes.
But if they will start with anything
and be consistent and say,
I don't care if I'm laying in my coffin,
I'm going to ask for the plate to come by
and I'm dropping my buck in and get so focused on it.
They will find themselves after they go through this little...
and you can't take authority over some of that too,
because all that's happening is the demons are revealing themselves.
Where they have a hold on you, that's all that's happening.
You said, I've never been so sick.
This came on me because I started tithing.
No, actually this was revealed because you started giving.
You know, I've had pastors tell me,
we want nothing to do with the revival
because when the revival comes, all kinds of demons come.
And division and strife,
and the people are fighting amongst each other.
No, actually when revival comes,
it's revealing the demons that are already sitting there.
That's all that's happening.
When God's spirit moves, every spirit moves.
And you're seeing what your favorite deacon actually has going on inside their heart.
Because the spirit of God's in there poking at it and it's rising up.
That's what you see. That's what's going on.
So I say all that to say if...
watching this way, watching the recording, whatever.
If you're one of those people who say,
I've tried to live for God, man.
Whether it's giving or whether it's...
We've tried to go to church once a week.
And this thing's killing us, man.
It's like as long as we stay away from church and serve God,
the car runs great.
But if we start trying to go to church consistently,
everything breaks. Everything starts falling apart.
If there's going to be a leak in the plumbing,
it's going to be Sunday morning.
This is demonic.
All that's happening is they're being revealed.
Now you don't back off, live with the enemy.
Remember?
You're living with them. You moved them in.
The enemy's right there living with you in your own house
and probably in your own temple.
We'll just back off and it'll calm down.
So you want to live with the enemy the rest of your life?
Because what you do is if you do that,
then that last sentence there in that first paragraph,
I've watched them back off and it takes time.
Sometimes it takes years.
But I've watched their lives be totally destroyed.
They are not going to be content for you to quit.
They're still going to try to destroy you.
Let me explain what's happening.
When they tried to offer themselves to God,
the other master,
Sin and the demonic whom they had already offered themselves to,
raised up and literally said,
No, we won't allow you to do this
and they're going to distract you any way they can.
And the demonic started jerking on everything it had access to.
If it's finances, if it's health, if it's whatever,
they already have access to it.
That's why when they start jerking at it,
you can literally see movement in the physical realm.
You say, well, give them the right.
The law of God that says if we will give and be faithful,
we will see movement in the physical realm in every area of our life.
If that works for God's kingdom,
it will be perverted and it will work for the demonic kingdom.
So we're just seeing where they already have us by the throat.
We didn't know they had us by the throat.
But once we started saying,
I'm going to step in a little deeper with God,
I'm going to start reading my Bible and praying every day.
Just go ahead and do it.
And when everything starts rising up against you,
recognize what it is.
Well, maybe God's trying to tell me to stop.
Yeah, which God?
Which one?
It's not that one.
The other one is trying to tell you back off.
Well, I can only take so much.
Well, why are you taking it at all?
Repent to your sins, submit yourself to God.
Call this garbage out.
Literally call it out as you see it.
Whatever is destroying the physical items in our house.
My washing machine died, the dishwasher died,
and now the car is acting up.
Whatever, call that spirit out.
I'm talking to you.
And as the Holy Spirit sees, knows, and numbers.
You say, I don't know what kind of spirit it is.
You don't need to know.
He knows as the Holy Spirit sees, knows, and numbers.
Whatever this kingdom or these spirits are,
I bind you in Jesus' name.
I forbid you from operating in my life
through the word of my mouth, the blood of Jesus Christ.
I cut you off, whether you're a generation or whatever.
I am done with you.
I've submitted myself to God.
And I am resisting you.
You will leave me.
You just don't try to white knuckle it.
Because literally it can go on for years.
And the more you grow, then something new happens.
And then this happens.
And then that happens.
And there was a lady who, who in Colorado
who got saved or came to the church, unsaved,
got saved.
She was first one out, nasty background, just nasty.
And she had two daughters.
And one was like hell on wheels.
Didn't want anything to do with God.
And the other one wanted God and got saved.
Both little girls.
It didn't take, boy, what did it take?
A year? Two years?
One of the girls got cancer.
Guess which one?
The one that wanted God.
Not the one who was resistant to God.
You say, why would that be?
They already have her.
Don't stir the pot.
Leave her alone.
She's already going to hell and living for us.
This one we're losing our grip on.
She got cancer.
She was...
I've shared the story already,
but it evidently needs to be shared tonight.
She fought with it.
She went through surgery.
She went through all kinds of stuff,
trying to get rid of the cancer.
And Bonnie remembers it.
And she was losing the battle.
We were praying for her and she was losing the battle.
Just frustrating.
And I got a call one evening.
It was like eight at night.
They were in Children's Hospital in Denver.
And the mother called and said,
she's dying.
Would you please come and pray one more time?
Because if we don't get this by morning,
the doctor says she's dead.
Because her vital signs are dropping.
Everything's going down.
She's dying.
I said, okay.
So I grabbed one of the guys from the board
and we were down there.
She's in intensive care.
And she's right behind the nurses station.
You know, they've got them spread all over.
But the nurses station is here
and there's a big window with a curtain on it.
And she's in the room right there.
Behind the nurses station.
So we pulled out our credentials
and got in and the mother wanted us in
this, that and the other.
And so we started, you know,
we saw the life signs and she was dying.
Her heartbeat was down.
Her blood pressure was down.
Her respiration was down.
Her breathing, everything was...
She was just drifting into death.
So we started praying.
And we knew this is the last shot we got.
So we got serious.
Not that we weren't serious,
but you know, sometimes you just feel desperate.
And we got serious.
So we started praying, doing everything,
commanding, binding, and nothing was helping.
So we started praying in tongues, really loud.
Because the doors were shut.
The doors of the room were shut.
So we're praying in tongues and going after it
and the thought went through me,
which was God, and which was
separate her from what she was destined for
and ask that God's destiny
come and be fulfilled over her.
Ephesians 1 and 2, there's a reason
he has for her life.
Call that on to her and separate her from whatever.
So we're praying and now we're praying loud.
In the name of Jesus.
And we're yelling, whatever that was
or whatever it is that's got a hole in her,
we separate her from that.
And my board members agreeing with me.
And we call her to the destiny
of Jesus Christ.
She will fulfill that destiny.
Talking in tongues again.
This, that, and the other took about 30 seconds.
And the monitors start changing.
Her heartbeat starts coming up.
Her blood pressure came up.
And about a minute after that,
the door bursts open
and I saw the curtains by the window go.
The window to the nurse's station was open.
They heard everything we were saying and doing.
They come in, the first thing they said was
what did you do in here?
I said, why?
Well, something's happening.
And they got their stethoscope out.
They started pushing the buttons on the monitors
and this, that, and the other.
I said, well, what's happening?
Everything's coming back to normal.
Literally in front of us.
The heartbeat went up. The breathing went up.
The blood pressure went up.
A caller returned to her face.
Without knowing it,
the demonic stronghold on her
was tied to her purpose in this world.
And without knowing it,
when we cut that destiny,
we cut the demonic stronghold
and called God's destiny on her,
which was not to die of cancer.
I think it was a day or so
before they had her out of ICU
and didn't take long.
She was out of the hospital
and I didn't know if I should be embarrassed
or shout for joy
because these people were not happy with us.
You would think they're in it
for the health of the child
and whatever you prayed worked.
Glory.
They were not happy with us.
You two need to leave.
The mother said, oh, no, they don't.
Yeah.
So we hung around for a while
and then we knew they were really aggravated with us
and the kids coming back to life.
So we'll leave.
So we just blessed her and left.
I would have loved to see the camera
on them standing at the nursing station going,
what are they doing in there?
Because they could hear us.
But looking back on it,
now, I don't know why
certain things don't happen certain ways,
but somehow we never addressed the right thing
and it was going to kill her.
But out of God's grace,
he finally said, just say this,
because see our power is in the word of faith in our mouth.
And when we said that, boom, instant change.
So you can't, I say all that to say this.
So she's the first one out.
You talk about take a kick in the gut.
When you turn to Jesus and your daughter
gets smacked so hard she's dying.
You can't back off though.
You can't back off.
My guess is had mom and the daughter backed off,
the cancer would have went into remission
for a short period of time.
And then would have come back
and done exactly what I said there in that second sentence.
Would have killed her.
It's the way it works.
Well, let's see.
Go to page 13. Let's just finish this little section.
I think we explained that all pretty well.
Yeah, there's some scriptures on it.
The Holy Spirit is working with you,
trying to help you.
Hebrews 10, 35 and 36.
Don't throw away your confidence.
You can't back off.
It will be richly rewarded.
You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God
you will receive what he has promised.
Their whole job is to get us to stop persevering
and back off.
That is their entire focus at that point.
We can't give in to it
because then it cancels everything.
We have to persevere
and believing that God will reward us.
And the hard part is many times they're young in the faith.
They don't know a lot.
So again, they need people to walk alongside of them
and help them make the choices that need to be made.
Okay, any questions?
Good. We'll move on.
Page 14.
Demons and a Christian, does that mean they're demon-possessed?
Okay, so now we've talked about this.
We've talked about possession means ownership.
They're not possessed.
Emphatically, no.
Once we're bought by the blood,
we're translated out of that kingdom into the kingdom of his dear son.
The Scripture calls it demonized.
And Young's Analytical Concordance
specifically calls it that ownership.
Possession means ownership.
Demonized means harassed or tormented.
If you go down to number two there,
it gives the original Greek words
both in the Strongs
and in Therese Greek lexicon.
It gives you definitions there.
It's not ownership.
It's they're trying to hold on.
They're trying to hang on.
And they're just tormenting or harassing the person.
So it explains that.
We've talked about that quite a bit.
Page 15, letter C.
Do we find any Scriptures that would indicate
that Christians could be held
or be under the power of demonic forces?
They could be demonized.
And again, remember, demonized is like a range again from one to ten.
From being very mildly affected or influenced or tormented
over to majorly affected and influenced and tormented.
And they're not possessed.
They're not owned by the kingdom of darkness.
But they're really being harassed or tormented.
So here again, I'm kind of restating
what we talked about earlier.
Do we find any Scriptures
that would say Christians could be demonized?
Well, absolutely.
It's in Romans 6, 7 and 8.
I mean, it's real plain there.
And it just re-explains it again.
So go to page 18.
We've covered this. We've gone over this.
Now it's in written form.
And that's why I gave it to you.
And it'll be in the book in written form.
Because we discussed a bunch of these things on nights
we didn't have in written form.
We talked about being demonized and so forth.
Now you've got some of the Scriptures
and everything involved there.
Page 18.
There's two kinds of sin that affect us.
Personal sin and generational sin.
That's it.
The whole thing can be summed up right there.
Either we personally got involved in stuff
we shouldn't have got involved in
and or we're dealing with generational stuff
that needs to be cut off.
The curse has to be...
somehow they have to have access
and it's going to come either through
generational curses or our own personal sin.
That's what opens up the door.
I am going to add agreement to this
someplace because
especially in the transference of spirits
that's
a huge issue.
So
personal sin, personal choices
personally coming out from one flow
and getting under the wrong flow
that opens the door.
And or generational stuff
that it will reestablish in us.
I mean it's
when you're dealing with a generational thing
you've personally done something to let it in.
That's my personal stance on it.
It doesn't have you
when you're sin less
or it would have had Jesus.
Remember
John 14, that last two verses
the prince of this world is coming
but he has nothing in me
and he's talking about
so I will lay down my life.
People need to see I will obey the father.
I will lay down my life.
So if generational sin
because Jesus had
Mary's lineage
all the way back
to Adam
there was sin in that lineage.
If generational sin
has the right to us
just because we live and breathe
it would have had the right to Jesus
and Satan would have had something in him.
We do something that
establishes its right
to come into our generation
us.
And most time we have no idea what we did
but we sinned. We somehow got
an agreement with that generational
heritage and
it re-established with us.
So it is a personal sin
thing but the power is tied into
it can go back generations.
And we are into this deep
if this is number 19. I can't remember
what stories I have shared and what I haven't shared.
Did I share
the story about the demon
that was in the ancestry
and they were
claiming, whether it is true or not
you don't know, but they were claiming
there is no way I will ever get them out
because they named off the number of generations
and so I
stopped. I said let's add this up.
I figured it out and I calculated
later and I went for 40 years
for a generation. They vary a bit
but I went 40 years because that is what
we were dealing with in
Moses time. So I went 40 years
and it
went back to
approximately David's time
King David.
And I said I don't buy
it for a second because
that means you would have entered this family
line
back when King David
was alive.
And you know what they said?
I knew him.
He...
You want to hear about him? I can tell you what he was like.
I said, no, I'm not interested.
First of all, I don't know if you're telling me the truth.
More than likely
it's going to be embellished because you're a demon.
And secondly
I'd sooner have
God's version of the
story than yours.
But now whether
that was true or not, I don't know.
But that demon
was 100%
fully confident you will never
get me out of this person.
Because we have been in this line
for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Well, actually thousands because
David was back...
What?
You got... he was back
5 to 700 BC.
So
2500ish years
we've been in this family line.
We have so much
power established
you can't get me out.
That's why it was bragging.
You say, what was it after?
My faith.
Trying to get me to believe it.
Well, you could be right.
You might be too strong for God.
You know, we'd never say that.
But that doubt inside of us
we're saying it.
What if it's true?
Ah, got you.
He convinced you.
Because all you need to do
is be double-minded here.
And it will be like the disciples.
Why couldn't we cast them out?
He said because he gots a little faith.
I don't care if it's been in there
since Adam.
Makes no difference. All you have to do is go
snip.
And that whole lineage is disconnected
because you just like cutting a rope.
And it's gone.
Now you stand here, bear before me.
And did we get it out?
Absolutely, we got it out.
But the part that was interesting
to me is it was so confident.
That's why it was bragging.
It was bragging and it was trying
to get me to question and doubt.
So when you're dealing with sin
you got personal sin, generational sin.
It always goes back to sin.
And yeah, you might have to deal
with some demons to get the person free.
But if you don't deal with the sin problem
you'll never get the person free.
Always goes back to that.
So had I shared that story before?
First time? Okay.
These stories come into my head
and it's like, I think I shared that one before.
And it's like, well I'm not sure.
Jump over to page 19.
And like page 18
that whole thing is review.
It's just in print now.
We've talked about generational spirits.
We've talked about personal sin.
Talked about the two flows.
Now you've got something in print that you can read.
The two ways the spirit realm affects
and tries to influence us.
They're going to just to cut to the chase.
The top talks about spirits
and how all
beings that are
like for a second paragraph.
In scripture spirits are referred to
by the same Hebrew and Greek words.
Except for one, which is in the third paragraph
it explains that.
Remember there are many different kinds of spirit.
God is a spirit. Angels are spirits.
Then there's the Holy Spirit.
Man is a spirit. Made in the image
likeness of God. Satan is a spirit.
The Fallen Angels are spirits.
Demons are spirits. These are all referred to
with the same word.
Old Testament Ruach
and New Testament Numa.
Except for familiar spirits.
They're referred to with a different name.
And it means
it's number 178. They're in
Strongs in the Hebrew.
It means spirit, necromancer
or pit.
And it has a different
it's still a spirit.
But it has a different operation
or work.
And that's why generational
or familiar spirits
sometimes
can be harder to deal with.
They posture
themselves like the one I just told you
about.
There's nothing you can do with us.
You're just a dumb Christian. And Jesus
is dead anyway. He died on the
cross. Have you not read
that?
Yeah, but he rose again. There's no proof
of that. You have no proof
he rose again.
They stole the body and hit it.
We were there. We saw it. What are they doing?
They're after your faith.
They're trying to get you to doubt.
And if they can get you to doubt
you'll never get them out.
So it's like I don't like to
converse with them because I know what they're after.
This is verbal warfare.
They're
they're after my faith.
But
two ways the spirit realm affects us
from the outside of our body
and from the inside of our body.
So the first one there,
Matthew 4, when the
when the devil came to temp Jesus
outside of the body
or inside of the body.
Did Satan get inward
access? No.
It was pure outside.
That was outside only.
Another scripture, page 20
Ephesians 6, 10 through 18.
It's talking about the rulers and the heavenly realms.
And we have to guard
ourselves against them. Well, that's outside the body
or inside the body? Well, it's outside.
Many times
number three in page 20 in the Old Testament,
evil spirits would come on people.
Now, why would an evil spirit
have the right to come on someone?
Remember the principle.
Why would they have
the right to come on people?
Well, sin is the core.
But if an evil spirit
can come on someone, then
is can a spirit
from God come on them?
Well, we read about that
in the Old Testament too. The prophets.
The spirit would come
on them and they would prophesy.
Well, since God did it that way,
guess who else is going to do it that way?
An evil spirit would come
on. You want to hear a specific
example of that?
Saul, Israel's first
king. It says an
evil spirit would come on
him. It wasn't living in him.
It would leave. It would
come. It would leave. It would come when it came.
He got nasty.
And they figured out, now
listen to this. This is a principle.
They figured out
that music
hard rock
no
country western
worship music
would drive the spirit off.
That is still true today.
That's why sometimes
people can't handle a good praise
and worship service. They'll just leave.
I just can't take it in there.
I start getting hot and my head starts spinning
and it's like
these people are all crazy.
Well, you know
what's happening?
The music is starting to
drive on the spirit that's in you
and you don't even know what's happening.
And they'll just get up and leave.
So there's a huge principle
here. When it comes from
the outside, yes, there was
evil spirits that came on
and saw the example
and there was the Holy Spirit that came
on. And you can go
other directions.
Joseph
Jesus
stepdad
can we call him that? Because he wasn't
his real dad. His real dad was
up there.
But Joseph
had a spirit come on him
that warned him
to go to
Egypt
and then the spirit came on and warned
him to come back. It happened
both times
in a dream
an angel from God
appeared to Joseph
in a dream.
So that that that
angels influence came on
Joseph.
And he took that as his instruction to run
and to come back. Knew it
when it was time.
So you've got both.
Well, you always have
to remember if you can see it in Scripture
for God's side, that means
devil's doing the same thing. He's just
perverting it and twisting it.
So they're going to try to affect us from the
outside
and
letter C in page 20. We'll go
to questions here pretty quick and maybe this is as far
as we'll go cover a little more yet.
Let's look at God's kingdom and
his spirits influencing and
affecting us from the outside
of our bodies. A number of Scriptures
there
talking about God's influence from
the outside.
Number three, Spirit of the Lord would come
on people. Number four, angels are working
with humans all the time. They don't
live inside of us. They
work with us and affect us from
the outside like Joseph.
And then letter C bottom of page 20
examples of demonic affecting
people from the
inside. So now we're switching
from outside to inside.
This has found many places in Scripture looking
in the Gospels. You'll see Jesus
dealing with this type of problem
on a regular basis. And I've got some Scriptures
listed there where Jesus was
casting demons out because
the demons were doing things in the
person. It's also
found in Ephesians chapter 2
and I'm going to read this
to you. If you want to bring it up, Eric,
if you can do that.
Ephesians 2,
we are going to read
this. It probably doesn't make
any difference. I've got New King James up
so that's as good as any.
Ephesians 2, I want you to catch
something here because I said we're going to point it out.
Well, now we're talking about demons
affecting us from the outside and demons affecting
from the inside. Now notice this. This
is an inside thing.
Verse 1, And you, he made
alive who were dead in trespasses
and sins. If you're going to bring it up, I'll
wait for you. Okay, cool.
Dead in trespasses and sins. Verse 2,
in which you once
walked according to the course
of this world,
according to the power of the
air, the Spirit
who now works
in the sons of disobedience.
Let's go over to the
amplified. See how that reads
verse 2. At which
time you walked
habitually, I
will just read that, just that phrase
from the NIV, in which
you used to live.
That's what the word walked means. It's a
lifestyle, it's how you're living. Back to the
amplified. You were following
the course and fashion of this
world. You were under
the sway and the
tendency of this evil age.
Well, who's over this evil age? Jesus
told us for now it's still
Satan. Following
the Prince of the Power of the
Air. You were
now listen to this. You were obedient
to and under
the control of the demonic
spirit, mind control.
Bingo, that's what he's describing.
Mind control. You were
under the control of the
demon spirit that still constantly
works, still
constantly works in
the sons of disobedience,
the careless, rebellious, unbelieving
who go against the purposes
of God. So the people
who are the careless, the disobedient,
the rebellious, the unbelieving, they're going
against God are under mind control.
That's why 2 Corinthians
4.4 says what it says.
Can you bring up 2 Corinthians 4.4?
We'll wait for this because this is really good.
For the God of this
world
has blinded
the unbelievers
minds, mind control
that they should
not discern the truth
preventing
them from
seeing the illuminating light of the gospel
of the glory of Christ the Messiah
who is the image of the likeness of God
until
that spirit is dealt with
they'll never see it.
They're being prevented
mind control
Jesus explained it this way
in Mark chapter 4 in the parable of the sower
seed that was
planted in people's hearts
who are like along the path where the ground is hard
the devil comes
and steals it away before the word ever
gets a chance to grow in them.
How does he steal it away?
It went into the
person.
They couldn't retain it
mind control
that
right there
he's preventing them from
seeing it.
Now in those
more dramatic
examples like this one
Ephesians chapter 2
the more dramatic
mind control where he's literally
stopping them from seeing truth
they're inside
they have to be inside
because it's more than
an oppression
and if you go back to Ephesians 2
it says the spirit
still constantly works
in
not on or with
the sons of disobedience
works in the sons of disobedience
and
he goes on in verse 3 and says
among these as well as you
you lived just like them
conducted yourself
Good. You went there. Read this with me. Notice this. This is one of the places that talk about what
Vicki brought up. Among these, as well as you, once lived and conducted yourselves in the passions of
our flesh, our behavior governed by our corrupt and sensual nature, obeying the impulses of the
flesh and the thoughts of the mind. Well, according to the verse previous, who's got the mind?
Satan. Our cravings dictated by our senses and our dark imaginings or our dark imagination. Well,
why is our imagination dark? Because we're under mind control. We were then, by nature,
children of God's wrath and heirs of his indignation like the rest of mankind.
But God. Next verse. But God. And then he starts saying, yeah, but we're going a different direction
now. But God. So, back to the booklet there, page 21. We'll go a little bit further.
And we'll open for questions. Old Testament references of demons being inside people.
Um, you've got Jesus and his working under, you know, he was still under the Old Testament law when
he was casting out demons. Demons were inside people. So you can get them inside too, as well as
they can affect you from the outside. Here are some examples of God's spirit being on the inside
of the body, letter D. So there's four examples there with a number of scriptures.
Um, if you're saved, we have a spirit inside of us.
All of us have that spirit. It's called the Holy Spirit.
And he will not force controlling your mind, but he wants to control your mind.
You realize that the Holy Spirit wants to control our minds. That's called mind control.
The difference is with him, we have to submit to it and follow him.
And then he'll speak to us and start renewing our mind and changing the way we're thinking.
And people will say, if you go to church, you're going to be brainwashed. Exactly.
That's exact. I want my brainwashed. How did Paul say it?
Uh, Jesus said it too. You're cleaned through the my word that I've spoken to you.
Paul called it the washing of the water of the word.
Well, you go to church, they're going to brainwash you. Yes, they are.
And if you get saved, I can guarantee you the spirit that comes in you will try to brain
or brainwash you or wash your brain. He will. You say, that's mind control. Could be.
I'm good at it. Because if he's not doing it, this side will. And this side won't call,
cause us any, give us any slack. They're just going to take it over, shove it down our
throats and we won't even see it. We're just controlled. Over here, he still gives us choice.
But does he want to control our mind? Yes, because he wants to control everything in
our life because he loves us and he wants to give us the best. And when we're in control,
it usually doesn't end up that way. So, you know, I get, when people say, well,
I, I never going to go to a church to get saved because that's all mind control.
Do you agree with that pastor? Absolutely. I love it when my mind is controlled by God.
Boy, it's so good. You come up with ideas, you come up with thoughts,
you come up with things. It's like, that is, that is, there's many times I've said,
that is really good. That couldn't have come from me. That's too good. I mean, that was not me
thinking now. I didn't make that one up. Well, what is that? That's mind control. Exactly.
I'll take it. So that's how God designed it to work. So what does Satan do?
Copies it and perverts it. Only he drives us. He doesn't give us choices.
God gives us choices. Okay, any questions? If we do, that's where we'll quit for this week
and we'll come next week and we'll finish this one up and go on. And there's a few other topics
we have to hit. And we'll be done with this. Here we go. This doesn't have to do with what
we talked about today. But when, when binding and casting off into the pit,
and then it talks about wondering how this works. Okay, if that spirit got cast into
the pit, and if they come back to find out if the house is clean and swept,
is that just seven different ones then? No, are many different ones? Or is that?
Every spirit works in a classification. For instance, there's probably, I don't,
I don't know how many demons there are total. Let's say there's 100 million. I don't know.
Let's just a number. Well, there's going to be a certain number of them that are lying spirits,
certain number are adultery spirits, certain number are, are whatever the sin is,
they'll, they'll, they work. That's the realm they work in. Because the more you work in it,
the better you get at it. So that's the realm they work in. So let's say you have a strong man
who's a lying spirit and you get it free and you cast it to the pit. Now, if you don't cast
it to the pit, Jesus says what he'll do. He'll leave and he'll walk through dry and arid places,
and he'll circle back around, see if you can get back in. Okay, so that's one who hasn't
been cast to the pit. If you cast that one to the pit, and this was a generational spirit,
there's many others in that same classification, lying spirits, who are going to,
we have, remember they want access to a human body. This one will never have access again.
We got rid of it. We will take the opportunity to see if we can get access,
because they all want access to a human body.
Okay, we're going to need the mic so that the people online can hear you.
Otherwise, they're scratching their head going, somebody's saying something more.
Is that also explained like seven times worse thing? Yes, because if the original one
comes back, we know it goes seven times worse. Now, if a new one re-establishes,
I don't know of any scripture that says, let's name them. So you got George,
who is a lying spirit, familiar spirit. You cast that one to the pit.
Well, there's another George who does exactly what that George did.
That George sees an opportunity, George Jr. Yeah. And the house is empty.
The original one in the house can never come back. So now let's see if we can get
access to the house. He'll jump right in, because he's of the same classification.
Now, when he comes, if he gains access, does he bring seven others with? I don't know of any
scripture that says that. Original George could have. If he gained access again,
he'd have brought seven more worse than him. But if he's in the pit and we got a new one
trying to re-establish that generational thing, that one I don't think brings seven more with.
To answer your question. So, to answer your question, if you cast him to the pit,
that particular one can't come back. But there's plenty of others saying,
Yeah, opportunity. I haven't been in a body for years. Let's take a shot at this.
You know, kind of thing. That's my understanding. Anybody else got a question? Right up front.
A question or something you want to talk about?
I'm curious. When you prayed for that young girl who was passing, and you got the word from the Lord
to cut off the destiny that the devil had for her and to bring forth the destiny of God.
Have you used that again? Do you think? Yeah. I've used that since then. You betcha.
I thought. Especially the tough cases. Yeah. I kind of thought. I used that with my wife.
I stood on that. She is here and has a destiny to fulfill. And
dear Jesus, she's going to fulfill it. You know, and this other destiny that's trying to lay old.
Nope. It is a statement of faith. But the thing that I find is it takes all the responsibility
off of me. I am by faith saying what will be. But once that permission is given,
it's like God just shifts into gear and he starts reestablishing his destiny.
And it just takes... it's like you just stand back and watch in awe then.
Like we were standing back and watching those instruments in that hospital room.
You just stand back and awe going, why didn't we say that earlier? You know,
she's been suffering for months. What we didn't know was revelation knowledge. It was a rainbow word.
Well that was my next question because or comment question about you were praying in the spirit.
You were praying in your language. You were translating. That was when you were then hearing
well or whatever. That's when the thought came. And the value, I mean of that language
and that going it. That was what I was thinking how that was just re-emphasized.
And I also think that it was because when we walked in the room, of course, we were focused on
the girl. She was in the bed. She had tubes running everywhere and the machines are beeping.
You know, trying to keep track of everything and so forth. So we never noticed the window was
open. That was God. Because had we noticed the window was open, I'm not convinced I would have been
as forceful as just we're going to do this because this is between God and us.
I might have started having thoughts of well, we better not get too loud because they might kick
us out because this is going to go through the whole ICU if we start yelling, which I'm
but when we were yelling in tongues, that forcefulness, I think, opened the heavens to hear the
rama word. It's not like God was holding out on this saying, we're going to wait till she's
almost dead. And then we're going to give it. No, we actually broke it, broke through so we
could hear it. Now had we done that months earlier, we'd have probably heard it months
earlier. And she'd never gone through what she went through. So yeah, that's exactly, I think you're
right. And I think the speaking in tongues, the rama word was the interpretation. You know,
the spirit knew what she needed. Couldn't get it through our thick heads though.
But yeah, I think you're exactly right. A question came in, is there scripture
verses to cast demons to the pit? It's found in where Jesus cast out Legion. So whoever
asked that. It's found where Jesus cast out Legion. And it's not in every translation.
Some say to outer darkness, some to say to the abyss. And there's a couple that literally
use the word pit. Well, of course, the abyss is the pit. But it's in that you have to read
numerous translations of that story where, and I think it's the rendering in Luke where he says
it. They begged him not to cast them to the abyss or to the pit. And he said, that's fine,
you can go to the pigs. So now here we are, because Jesus wasn't allowed to minister to
Gentiles. He was sent to Israelites only. And the only time he ministered to Samaritans who were
half Israelite, half Gentile, it was a rare occasion he did that because he was sent to the
law sheep of the house of Israel. But there was a couple of times he did. So Jesus did not go
out beyond the borders of Israel. He stayed in the country and ministered to Israelites.
So here's a question for you. We're still under the Old Testament law.
The Israelite people could not eat pork. Why were they raising pigs?
These were Israelites raising pigs. They couldn't eat them. Well, they weren't supposed to eat them.
But they were raising them. I think it's kind of funny. It's like a money making opportunity
and you know the Jewish mind. Hey, there's money to be made here. We're not going to eat them,
but we're going to raise them and sell them. I think it's funny. So yeah. And then they got
all upset with Jesus because the whole herd died and they get out of our country. Never
mind that this guy who has totally lost his mind is free. Never mind that. We lost our
income making ability. Get out of here. Yeah, that's the human mind right there.
Majoring on miners. Anybody else got anything? We're in the back.
So in light of what you're seeing about Mary and the cancer and holding to the destiny,
did you ever kind of analyze and think was this thing that caused cancer there all
along but hiding or did it come off something new? I don't like to share her stories because
it's her stories. But this was the second time. Okay. This is a family generational thing.
And I won't say any more than that, but she's been saved from cancer twice.
Okay. The reason I asked is because I had just heard that we missed four classes while we were out
of town from mid-February to mid-March and I just listened to... What are we going to do with you,
Walt? Well, I'm paying attention. And you know, you talked about it's harder for the first ones
out and referencing back to Mary. That's why I asked because you had, you know, brought
that out in that class and I thought, well, okay, that's worth, you know, looking into because
of that kind of, you know, they were still there, but they were hiding with my in my own family,
somebody that I've gone through deliverance with intensively. We just got this impression,
you know, different times that things would be dealt with. It's like, are there still some
hiding in there? Yeah, I can feel them, you know, like in the niches, the nooks, the crannies,
like, okay, not done yet. So just curious. If the light that be in you be darkness,
how great is that darkness? That was Jesus question. And it's the same thought you're saying,
we say it this way. It's like peeling an onion. You know, Jesus, they had nothing in him.
He was 100%. His temple was 100% squeaky clean. There was no demons in there.
I don't really know if anybody else in the face of the earth has ever really been able to say that
because of what you just said. There's so much that sometimes they'll just sit quiet,
because they know if they show up, they're going to get kicked out. But this way they're still
in a body. And we'll talk about that next week when we go to Ephesians four.
They're still in a body. And of course, they're spirits of death. So eventually,
they start to affect you. But it's the peeling the onion thing. You just sometimes wake up surprised.
Like, really? Come on. But yeah, there you go. And like you said, you can feel them. Especially
if all of a sudden the Holy Spirit kind of pokes one and reveals it to you. And you say,
are you here? This spirit. Are you here? You'll feel them move. In Jesus' name, if you're here,
you're not going to hide anymore. You'll feel the sensation. Well, there you go. Time to do
some self-deliverance. But you're right. It's kind of the same thing. It's not, I don't believe it's
the way God created it. I think it's demonic. There's some viruses or diseases that can get
into our body and lay dormant for years until certain circumstances get right. We get weak
in our immunity, something happens and they pop up and come to life and try to take us out.
And they've been there for years. Like, for instance, I guess scientifically proven,
according to science, I'm not going to claim this for me. But according to science,
every human being has cancer cells. But our immunity keeps them under control.
Now, if something happens that weakens our immunity, they can get away and start
multiplying and then you end up with full-blown cancer. Well, according to science, that could
be very true. But I'm kind of coming from the direction of, if there's a cancer cell in me,
you need to die now. You don't need to be floating around my system. You don't need to be growing
any place. I don't want to go there. And I'm taking that stand. But science says they can
find them in everybody. Well, I'm not going to even let them look in me because by faith,
they're not in me. So why are we looking? There we go. End of that subject. And like Forrest says,
and that's all I have to say about that. Anybody else got anything? Are we done?
I don't think no other question came in, did it? That you saw? Okay.
I'll double check one more time. Nope, I don't see anything.
All right. We'll call it it for tonight. Be blessed. Have a safe trip home.
Oh, question came in. Yes, I do.
Let's go there. Okay. Didn't have a mic. Okay. The point was, I don't believe spirits can
break a washing machine or a car. Do you have scripture for that? So let me go and find it.
Let me get to the right spot. We'll find it.
Yeah. Second Corinthians nine. See, now I'd like to ask the person this question.
Are you a tither? I'll ask him here. Are you a tither?
Because if you're not a tither, just start and let's see what happens.
It's all you have to just test it. You don't believe me? If you don't believe in tithing
and giving to God's kingdom, just start and let's see what happens. And it won't take three,
four months and you'll say something's going on here that never went on here before.
And here's the principle it happens from. It's second Corinthians chapter nine.
So I'll read this in the NIV. You can bring it up if you want. I'm going to start at verse
six. And then I might go to the Amplified. I don't know how it reads there in one of the verses.
But second Corinthians nine, six. Remember this, whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly
and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each man should give what he's decided in
his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And here's
the principle. Here's the promise. And God is able to make all grace abound to you
so that in all things, at all times, having all that you need, you will abound to every good work.
So what he's saying is, it doesn't make any difference if it's spiritual, if it's physical,
it's all things. God is able to make grace abound to you so that in all things, at all times,
having all that you need, you can be a millionaire. And if you're dying of cancer,
you don't need money. You need healing. He said in all things at all times. So
right there, if we give the way he wants us to give, he is able to deal with all things,
which in a millionaire's case, who is dying of cancer, the thing would be cancer, the physical
body. You have all things at all times. Let's see how the Amplified reads it just for the
phone of it. Verse 8, God is able to make all grace, every favor and earthly blessing
come to you in abundance so that you may always and under all circumstances and whatever the need be
or the need be self-sufficient, whatever the need be self-sufficient. So that covers everything,
physical, spiritual, emotional, mental covers it all, possessing enough to require no aid or
support and furnished in abundance for every good work and charitable donation. So there's the
principle. Financial giving touches and brings freedom in all things. That's the law. That's
the rule. God said that. That's the way it's going to go. So the perversion or the twisting of
the law is, well let's not give and let's bind you up and we'll get control of all things.
And it's very easy to find out where they have control. Just try to switch over
to this side. Their control will immediately come up. Yes, the question is they say they
tied. So good for you. Do you mean all things includes my washing machine? Yes, I do. It includes
all things. Either it's all things or that scripture is not true. Then you got to throw the
whole thing out. All things in everything all the time. Now let's not get goofy here.
Washing machines will wear out. The old ones lasted a whole lot better than the new ones.
They're all ugly green ones from the 70s. Some of them babies are still running.
And they work great. And the new $2,000 one you bought with all the bells and whistles and
its Wi-Fi connected will last. They'll tell you if you go ask how long will it last.
They'll say that's usually seven, eight years. If you get 10 you're doing good.
Because they just make them that much poorer. So if you're a tither or if you're a giver,
like he's talking about there, doesn't mean you're exempt from things wearing out. They will wear
out. But God's not really too concerned with money because he owns it all. The devil is kind
of managing, but God's the owner. And if it wears out, he'll just make sure you got the
money by another one. But things will wear out. Your car will wear out. Your tires will wear out.
Now, can you believe for them to go longer? Absolutely. I do all the time.
You can believe they're going to wear out much slower. And we know that's possible
because even in the Old Testament when the children of Israel were going from Egypt to
the Promised Land for 40 years, their shoes, their sandals, and their clothes did not wear
out. 40 years. So can the spirit realm affect the physical realm? Boy, you better believe it did
because that's not normal for clothes to last 40 years. I don't care what they're made out of.
That's not normal. So the spirit realm was affecting the physical realm, which means
there's laws around that. God has rules of how things run around everything. There's laws
around that. We can tap into those laws by giving. But we can also get on the other side
and those laws are used against us. So that's what I'm referring to. Hope that answered your question.
Good. Thank you for asking the question, because if you had the question, there was
many others who had the question or will have it. So I'm glad you asked the question.
Thank you. Appreciate that. Okay, one back here.
This relates to that kind of directly. So we helped a friend fix a part on their car
and it was an alternator. Within a very short time, I don't remember if it was a week or less,
the alternator in our car failed. Never had an issue with it, nothing.
So it got my attention and we're like, I think somebody's a little upset that we're giving
here. So we continued to do so. We had the money to fix it. But we just kept going.
We've been able to give more and more to help people in one way with their cars, multiplied.
And I just kind of laughed it off. I'm like, well, you want to do that to me,
you can pay me back sevenfold, just keep heaping it up on yourself. That's your mistake.
Yeah, so you're quoting scripture now, so you know your stance, you know your authority.
So now let me ask you a question. Early on when you just started doing the giving,
so you gave one example. Was there a pattern of attack coming against you? Do you remember?
In other words, did you have more excuse to stay poor when you started giving than to actually
start seeing yourself prosper? You know, the warfare seemed more for me like, oh,
you can't really afford to give. And then I met someone in my work that literally was a single mom
with kids that was so poor. They literally said, you know, if we have nothing financially to give,
we will go pick berries and give them. And it struck me, I thought you can give no matter what.
And it shifted my thinking from thinking, oh, well, I really don't have enough,
I got to survive on it to who cares, give whatever it takes, and you will see the blessings. And we
have, you know, we have seen this last year was our best business year ever. Without any real
obvious reason. It was just God pouring it out. And then he gave us money and a house and over
the top stuff. And you attribute that to you started doing the giving. I really believe
that it has to do with the giving multiplies. It's like the blessing just starts to the windows of
heaven thing. Go ahead, test me. And we did. And we're just stunned. And so when we get the counter
attack, even in the exact same car park, just laugh it off. At this point, say, I said, all
you got, you know, God's so much bigger than you. It's not even funny. And just, you know,
and it's funny, because the more we do that, the more it kind of strengthens our resolve.
And the more free you get, right? So thank you for sharing that. That's really good.
Anybody else got anything? Anything else online? We're good. All right.
If let me let me say this. There's some things I get really strong about, like for instance,
answering your question about cars and washing machines and whatever. There's some things I get
really strong about in my posture and faith. Financial prosperity is one of them.
Healing is another one. Don't come at me with healing stuff. You're going to rile me up,
because I will take a very strong stance. There's a number of things that I take a very strong
stance on, because I found out. So I say that to say this, if I came off strong, it's not because
you did anything wrong or asked the wrong question. You hit something that I get strong
about, because I've learned from experience for me. This may not be for everybody, but for me,
if I don't take a strong stand on some of these things, it comes back and bites me.
If I leave room for compromise, get a little wishy-washy, it doesn't take long. Pretty soon,
it's like, this is not going the way it's supposed to go. And I have to go back and repent and take
that strong stand of no, this is the way it is, period. And then everything settles down again.
So that's why, if you say, wow, he really gets strong in this washing machine thing,
yeah, it's the principle of prosperity.