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Thank you, Father, for loving us enough to give your son.

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Thank you, Father, for wanting us to succeed and be victorious enough you gave us your spirit.

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And we are here tonight in gratefulness and thankfulness, asking that,

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Lord, you're the master of the church, you just do with this night what you want done,

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the way you want to just do your will.

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Holy Spirit, lead us into it. In Jesus' name, amen.

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Amen.

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Well, welcome to the last class.

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Here we go.

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We got a lot of stuff that we won't get covered, but we're going to try to cover as much of it as we can.

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I want to thank you, because this has been a, you know, I didn't expect it to go this long.

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And I want to thank you for sticking with it.

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You know, we had a core group of people here and we have a core group of people online who have just stuck with this all the way through.

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In fact, some of the comments I'm getting is, can't we just keep it going for a while longer?

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And it's like, well, my plan is in the fall, Mary's going to do a healing school and she's going to break it up.

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She'll start in the fall. She's going to break it up into like six or eight week segments.

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And that'll probably go through most of the winter.

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Well, some place in there, I'm planning on plugging in like six weeks on demonology.

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This has been more about deliverance and getting free, staying free,

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but it really hasn't been an in-depth study on demons and what they do and how they act, etc.

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That can be helpful to this because it can help us recognize them.

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So at some point, I don't know how to go in the fall or early next year, January or something,

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we'll come back and we will try to, from scripture, give the absolute best description of demons that we can,

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which may help us recognize some things.

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It will be a couple of months before I finish the book with all the handouts and stuff we've been doing here in this lack section.

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Last section, I will let you know when it's done.

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We have a number of topics to cover tonight.

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So you might have to hold your questions, write them down.

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And I will be giving you a handout if you don't have something, take notes on or whatever, you could write them on that.

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But write them down because we're not going to take the time throughout to answer them.

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We'll shove all the questions here and anything that comes in from online.

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We've had a lot of questions come in from online for tonight.

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So that's going to absorb a chunk of time.

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But anything that comes in now, and you can still text them to me, 7-6-3-7-4-2-5-4-7-4.

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And since you're running to get your paper, I'll give you a second, I'll repeat it.

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And you can text them in if you want to.

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And we're going to cover what we can and get what we can do.

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Now there's a number of topics I know we won't get covered.

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So what we're going to do there is I will just list them to you.

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So that if you say, well, I wish he'd covered this topic yet.

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Well, I want those to come in because I can put them in the book.

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But if I already listed it, then you don't have to tell me

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or if you have a specific angle on it you won't covered.

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All right, are you ready with your pen?

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7-6-3-7-4-2-5-4-7-4.

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If you get a question during the evening, since this is the last class,

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go ahead and text it in right away.

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And we'll see if we get to it at the end.

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I will stay as late as these people are willing to stay.

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We might be done by 9.

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I don't know how long they're willing to stay.

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So we'll see how this goes.

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There's one thing I feel like I need to say,

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and this is for the feeling I get is this is for someone

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or a few people might be online,

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might be people who watch this in the future.

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I don't know, but I feel like I need to talk to someone about this

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and clarify some things.

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I've had many experiences over the years.

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Most of them I can't share.

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And I can't give the stories on them for a couple of reasons.

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One is a lot of times people just misunderstand.

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And then it gets a little bit goofy.

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And the second one is they can cause fear.

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So if you haven't beat your fear yet,

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and I share some of these stories,

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it's just going to ramp it up and that won't help you.

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But the thing I want to say is this.

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Don't be afraid of odd happenings.

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When you're doing deliverance stuff,

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odd stuff will happen.

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And you're going to experience some of this.

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And it can cause many questions in you.

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So because many times we shrink back from something

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that we've never seen or heard,

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or I've never seen anything or heard anything like this before,

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we'll shrink back from it.

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Don't do that.

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Because you're going to be cutting the person short

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that you're trying to help.

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So the next mistake we make is we talk to people about it,

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which is not wrong,

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but you're going to talk to people about it

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who've never done deliverance.

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And they're going to throw you straight in the ditch.

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Because they're going to give you advice

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out of no experience or knowledge whatsoever.

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And that is going to go haywire on you

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because if it's odd to you,

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it's going to really be odd to them

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unless they've been through that kind of thing before.

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If they haven't been through it

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and experienced similar kind of situations,

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all they're going to do is undermine the validity

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of what you experienced, what happened,

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which will throw you into unbelief and doubt.

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And then the greatest example I can give of that

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is the story I gave when that first person

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we got involved with that first person

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and we couldn't get the demon out

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and then my senior pastor

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called the district and asked for help.

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All they did was undermine

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what we were trying to do.

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There is no demon in this person.

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This person's saved. They cannot have a demon.

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They're a Christian. Christians can't have demons.

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They have psychological problems.

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You need to just back away from this.

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This is going to go bad for you.

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Time we were done listening to their input,

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of which, to my knowledge,

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nobody at the district office

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had ever cast out a demon.

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Or somebody would have had a little better advice

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than that one.

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That's just like about the bottom

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as you can go on advice.

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And all it did was cause us

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by the time we came out of that,

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we were just sitting there, our heads were spinning

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in unbelief of like, well, maybe we are all messed up.

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So watch out for that

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because odd happenings will take place.

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See if you can find someone

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who has had some experience in deliverance.

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Talk to them.

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Don't just grab somebody

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because it, you know,

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even the people you think should know better

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don't always know better.

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The Bible, let me just give a reality check here.

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The Bible is a book written by the Holy Spirit

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about the experiences of men and women.

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What we consider doctrine

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was somebody else's experience with God.

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You know, Abraham was called

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out of the Ur of Caldees.

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He was called into a land

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that God said, I will give to you in your descendants.

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If you bless them,

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whoever blesses them will be blessed.

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Whoever curses them will be cursed.

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We have a doctrine on that.

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Do not curse Israel.

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And then we go into the promised land

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and now God makes a covenant with Abraham.

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And he's the father of faith

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and we are his children by faith.

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And we have a huge realm

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of the New Testament and doctrine

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that is based on

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Abraham's experience

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with what God did in his life.

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Sometimes we look at doctrine

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and it's like, well, this is just solid

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because it's in the Word of God.

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We'll back up two steps

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and you're going to find out

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this was somebody's experience.

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They had an interaction with God

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and it was an interaction

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that the Holy Spirit wanted us,

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that God wanted us to remember

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so it was written down

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and it's in the Bible.

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And we can learn from it,

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we can grow from it.

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But it was somebody's experience.

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You're going to have experiences

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experiences.

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That's okay.

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Now they all need to align with the Word.

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We're not going to come up

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with the new Bible now.

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They all need to align with the Word.

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But everything that God does

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in our life

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has to become

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experientially relevant.

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Not just a belief.

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We can believe ourselves

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straight to hell.

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The demons believe

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and tremble.

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But they're not very well off

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for their belief.

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It has to be experientially

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relevant to us.

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So realize

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God has given us all the information

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in the scripture we need

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for life and godliness

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and we're going to have to dig

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to make some of the things

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understandable, some of our

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happenings, odd events that happen

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to see where they're at in the scripture.

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But always

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to stay on track

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to not get off in the ditch

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and end up in deception.

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You must align your experiences

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with the Word.

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You must.

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If they're contrary to the Word

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it wasn't God.

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If you don't hold yourself to that

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you're going to end up in the ditch

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really hard.

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But realize something in this.

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Again, the hidden and secret

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things of scripture are not

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easily seen.

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You will need to look

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for some things

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diligently.

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And just be honest

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and don't take scripture and twist it

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to try to fit your situation

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because you'll end up in deception

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and air there too.

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If it's in there

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it'll be obvious to you

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when he shows it to you.

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But for instance, I'll just give you an example of that.

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We've talked about this so I'm using examples

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that we've talked about so I don't take much time on.

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When I had that

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situation where that demon

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supposedly got saved

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that was an experience.

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That was an odd happening.

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There's only one way

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to find out if that's God or not. It has to be

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in the Word.

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I had never

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seen anything in the Word

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concerning that.

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Read it through multiple, multiple, multiple times.

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Never seen anything

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in the Word concerning that. I didn't think it was possible.

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Till it happened

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then now what do I do with this?

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But you know what? Once

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we went to the Word

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and really started searching

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it is so

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obvious

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it's like how could we miss this?

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I mean in Colossians

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too it flat out says it

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that salvation

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goes beyond mankind.

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God's grace is big enough to cover

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the spirit realm.

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Jesus' sacrifice was big enough

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to cover the spirit realm.

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Not just human race.

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Everybody.

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I'd never seen that before. Never in my life

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had I seen that.

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So you're going to have odd happenings.

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You're going to have to go to the Word to find out

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if you're in the ditch or you're still on the road.

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But when you go to the Word

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don't twist it.

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But if you're on the

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road you will find

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something in there that flat

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out shows you yes this is

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God or no this is not God.

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So

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I'll just and these will all be in the booklet

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but some principles to follow to keep yourself on

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track when experiencing some of these new

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weird things.

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Number one love God with all

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your heart soul mind and strength.

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If anything happens to start causing your

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love for God to wane back up

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and

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they will demons will go after

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it. People

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will go after it.

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It's just Christians can be odd.

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I don't know why they do it but

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I have theories but

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if in the

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process you find yourself loving God

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less not more

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back up.

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Like that first 18 to 24 month experience

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I had. I came out of

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that with

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a number of things

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that were beyond anything

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I had ever experienced. Number one my love

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for God increased a hundred fold.

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My ability to hear the

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voice of the spirit went from

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1 to 15

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on a scale of 10.

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My dedication

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to be

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obedient and sacrifice

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no matter what

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became

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paramount. There was no

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this thing of

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this principle

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came out of that. Many times

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Christians think we have the right

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to choose to sin or not to sin.

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Well, because

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some Christians do it, you know

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I have friends that do it and they're fine

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you can't say they're not going to have it.

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So if they're going

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fine I mean don't judge

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who are you to judge me

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I can go do this too if I want.

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Show me in Scripture

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any place where sin is ever

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an option

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ever an option.

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But we live in the

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American church

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where it is an option.

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We have young people

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growing up in the church

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saved, baptized in the Holy Spirit

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and they live with their

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prospective partner a year or two or

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three years before they ever marry them.

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Now can I just be blunt?

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What the heck are you doing?

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Oh don't judge me

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I'm under grace.

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During that first 18

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to 24 months

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that principle was

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ground into me.

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Sin is never an option

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don't make an excuse for sin.

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It is never an option.

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Well that's forgiveness later.

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What makes you think he's going to forgive you?

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I have a message on that

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that I'm about ready to deliver

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but that's a different thought. Okay, so number one

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love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength.

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Number two learn to hear the Holy Spirit.

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Remember he is our greatest teacher

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and counselor, not man.

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Stay off your phone

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and get talking to God.

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Get talking to the Holy Spirit.

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Your greatest counselor is the Holy Spirit

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not a person.

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Now if you can find someone who's experienced

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and this can help mentor you, that's good

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but listen to the Holy Spirit first.

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Number three be sensitive

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to follow the Holy Spirit.

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He educates us

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and gives us knowledge as we continue

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to move. If we lock up and say

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I'm not doing this any further

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then everything shuts down right there.

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You've got to be sensitive to follow him. Number four

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be quick to repent.

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Good news, you will

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make mistakes.

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Good news

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it's already bought and paid for.

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Put it under the blood

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and move on.

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If you think you're going to go into a deliverance

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kind of setting and never make a mistake

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you're pretty arrogant.

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Because it's a whole realm

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we know so little about

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but yet we know how to do it.

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I could ask you

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15 questions off the top of my head

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about deliverance and getting people free

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that none of you would have an answer for

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but yet we know how

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to do deliverance.

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So

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be quick to repent

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you will make mistakes

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and then following that. Number five

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take a humble posture

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don't take

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the know it all attitude

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take a humble posture

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with God

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and with people

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even when you have to take a stand

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against people

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try to do it humbly

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not arrogantly like

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I know what I'm doing

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who are you to question me?

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Don't do that

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take a humble stance

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be humble with God

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be humble with man

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and the last point number six

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I believe it is

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realize the foundation

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of this whole thing

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is built upon this

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realize

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admit and live from the perspective

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I don't know very much

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period

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period there

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realize

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admit

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own it

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And live from the perspective, I don't know very much, especially when it comes to deliverance and demons.

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It is a world, a realm that is far greater than this physical realm, and we really know a speck of it.

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We don't know how it operates. We don't know how it's organized. We really don't know very much.

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It is purely by God's grace that He's given us the name of Jesus and said,

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Here, just use this. It'll take care of it. You don't need to know it all because we really don't know very much.

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And the sooner we own that, because if... let me say it this way, principle, here's the road, walkie in it.

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The word is a lamp to my feet. We're trying to stay on the road. You got a ditch on each side.

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So when it comes to deliverance, the devil's going to try to drag you into the ditch of,

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I'm not capable. I don't know what I'm doing. I can't do this. What if something bad happens?

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All that stuff can try to drag you over here to stop you from doing any deliverance.

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If he can't get you into that ditch, he will try to push you into the opposite one.

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Which is, I know exactly what I'm doing. I've cast out three demons and everybody should come to me

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because I know what I'm doing from total inadequacy to pride.

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If he can get you in either ditch, he's got you. Because all you have to do is start thinking and believing,

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I know it. And all of a sudden they'll quit obeying you. Why? Because you're in sin.

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So just realize, we really don't know very much. And I know it's hard on the ego, but it's good.

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It's supposed to die anyway. So we've had numerous questions come in.

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So I'm going to run questions till about eight o'clock. Then we're going to go to the handout

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because we've got to deal with unresolved anger. And then I'll come back and finish the questions

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after the unresolved anger handout and then we'll open up for anything new.

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So first question that came in, most of these came in online.

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Is there any, or I should say from viewers online, is there anything that could have prevented

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your initial 18 to 24 month experience, that first introduction and deliverance?

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Well, I'm going to answer it this way. Hopefully it makes sense.

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Maybe for some things, and yes for some things.

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So in other words, maybe something could have prevented some of that.

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And some things, yeah, some of that could have been prevented.

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Some biblical working knowledge of deliverance would have been so helpful.

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I grew up in a full gospel church. I'd never heard one even sermon,

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much less a class on deliverance. I never heard one.

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I went through Bible college four years, got my bachelor's.

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Probably should have went for my master's, might have helped me.

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I don't know, got my bachelor's. Not one class was about deliverance.

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So I knew nothing. So some biblical working knowledge of deliverance would have helped.

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Number two, an on-site mentor. Somebody who I could pick up the phone

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and they were a half an hour, an hour away, who had actually done deliverance

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and could hear the voice of the spirit, would have made the difference from day and night.

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Day and night would have made the difference.

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The only person I had lived north side of Minneapolis.

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That was depending upon traffic back then five to six hours.

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You know, you can thank God he was there.

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You know, you can get some stuff covered by phone.

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But somebody who can say, I will be there in an hour.

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Hang on.

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Oh, that would have made the difference between night and day right there.

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But there was nobody.

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Because if I'd had somebody come and I'd have said,

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I am going to sit to the side now and let you do this.

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What that would have done for me is given me some experiential faith.

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There's a difference between doctrinal faith and experiential faith.

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Doctrinal faith is when the Lord takes the reema

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and he reveals to us what we should believe

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and we need to get solid on it.

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This is what I believe.

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Experiential faith is when you take what you believe and you make it work.

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That's a whole different world.

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We believe God paid for all of our healing.

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But are we living in complete full health?

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See, it's all faith.

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But one is doctrinal and the other is experiential.

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I would have loved to see somebody do it.

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Now, we came over to Minneapolis a couple of times.

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Because, I mean, we just hit a wall.

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We couldn't get anywhere.

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So we came over and got some help.

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It was good.

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I learned a lot.

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But it wasn't enough.

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So that would have made a big difference.

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So, yes, there are some things that could have helped.

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And now let's look at the maybes.

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I was thrown into a very difficult situation

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in that early years period of time.

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Most of which I can't share.

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I can't go there for the reasons I already gave.

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Even with the few things I do know now,

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if I was put back in that same situation,

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it would be really tough.

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And may take some time to get the person free.

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Because of the situation I was in.

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So, would have it helped?

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Well, some things, yes.

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Some things, maybe.

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Because this was a very difficult situation

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with a number of people.

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One person.

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I'll give you an example.

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I can share this.

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One person, as we were...

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You know, it's like you...

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I used the hornet's nest before.

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Let me do this.

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If you have a beehive in the ground

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and you need to get to the queen,

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you know the hives there.

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When you peel off the first layer of dirt

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and you see the hive,

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things get nasty.

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Because they don't want you going in any deeper.

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One particular individual.

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We peeled off the dirt,

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saw the hive,

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and we were working at cleaning out the hive.

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You know, it goes layer by layer.

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Trying to get into the depth of it.

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Again, I didn't know enough about strong men

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and that kind of stuff.

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I just didn't know.

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But while we were working that process,

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there was a...

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a few week period of time

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I had to be with the person 24 hours a day.

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They couldn't...

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they couldn't leave the church

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or they couldn't leave the parsonage

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because...

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I'll give you an example.

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You're driving down the road.

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You drive past the bar.

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You drive past the nightclub.

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Anything that is kind of a concentration of sin,

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anything.

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All of a sudden, demons came up in this person.

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And we did everything we knew how to stop that.

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Pray it over them.

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Took authority before we left.

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Listening to Christian music,

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quoting scripture,

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and pretty soon, they're cussing.

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And I'm going to kill this person

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and they're...

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trying to throw him out the door.

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That was the first experience.

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Trying to throw him out the door.

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We're going down the road 55 miles an hour.

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Trying to throw him out the door.

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And I'm hanging on to them

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so they can't get out the door

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and trying to pull over to the side of the road.

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Get stopped so I can deal with this.

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A mentor would have helped,

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but in that situation,

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what do you do?

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You just got pushed through it.

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And there was numerous different things like that

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that took place.

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And who do you go for to help on that?

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I ask questions and it's like,

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well, you got to get it under control.

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Well, I don't know how to get it under control.

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Well, you're going to have to get it under control.

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Right now, it's kind of running you in circles.

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Well, I know that.

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And you just have to grow through that.

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It's the way it is.

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And those are odd situations.

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Odd happenings.

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You're walking in, let's use,

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was it Walmart, but you're walking in a grocery store

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because you have to go get groceries.

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This person can't leave your side.

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So you're walking through a grocery store

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and it's you and your spouse and this person.

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And all of a sudden,

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right in the aisle, they just pass out.

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Boom!

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They're just out like...

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laying in the aisle.

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Okay, the first thing they want to do is call 911.

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That's the last thing you need to do right there.

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Our hospitals are not safe spiritual ground.

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There's a lot of witches and warlocks who work at hospitals.

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A lot of them.

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Can't do that.

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Well, what are we going to do?

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Well, so you're down there trying not to embarrass the person,

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trying not to draw too much attention,

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trying to get the...

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because the demons playing games with you.

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Trying to find a way to get the person away from you

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so they can kill him.

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And in fact,

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in this one particular situation,

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before some of this stuff happened,

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there were...

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and again, this might seem freaky to you, is what it is.

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An angel came to me and said,

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under no circumstances,

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let this person go to the hospital.

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You have to take this by face.

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If they end up in the hospital, they will be dead.

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There's people already waiting for them.

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Who will kill them?

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So, okay, hospital's not an option.

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So you got to take it by face.

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So you're down there in Walmart in the Isle.

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It wasn't Walmart, but we'll use that example.

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Trying to command this demon to go down

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without drawing too much attention

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so the person can wake back up and go,

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oh, I must have fainted.

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Okay, let's get you back up

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and let's finish walking through the store.

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See, now they couldn't leave my side

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because if they left my side,

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they'd have went to the grocery store wherever.

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It would have fainted, 911 would have been called.

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Bingo, we're in the hospital.

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And if, and I'll always put if there,

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if what the angel said was accurate,

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they're dead.

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That's on me because I was told,

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don't let that happen.

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So you're going to have weird stuff happen.

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Some of it, yeah, could have been prevented

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if I'd have known more, had more help.

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Others, it's just like you got to power your way through it.

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It didn't take long.

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I wandered out of the situation.

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As you can imagine, it's like,

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how in the world did I get roped into this?

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This can't go on.

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And over and over and over,

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the only thing the Holy Spirit would say

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is the Father is asking you to do this.

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That's all I get.

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There's got to be somebody I can ship.

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There's people who know deliverance.

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We can find somebody.

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The Father is asking you to do this.

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What do you do?

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Do your best to obey.

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And as a result,

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huge miracles.

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I mean, when you're in those situations,

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God will never let you drown

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if you're honestly trying to tread water.

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You think you're drowning,

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but God won't let you drown.

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I mean, huge miracles.

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I saw miracles during that period of time

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that I've never seen since.

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And I don't know how

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a bunch of stuff happened other than

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God was having mercy on me

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and giving grace to them

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and helping them getting set free.

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There was one person.

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Their friend called me.

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They and their friend were together.

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And they came to the top of a flight of stairs.

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And the person...

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I don't remember exactly how it played out.

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Something about the person said,

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don't push me. Stop pushing me.

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And with that, phew!

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Pushed right over the edge of the flight of stairs.

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Boom, boom, boom.

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It was like 20-some steps.

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The old hard wood ones.

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Boom, boom, boom.

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Got to the bottom.

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Broke collarbone.

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So they called me.

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And then a demon was up.

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So then the friend,

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that's before we had these.

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The friend ran to a phone.

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Called me.

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Here's where we're at.

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Can you come help us?

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There's a demon up.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And I think she broke a bone and etc.

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So I run...

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Get over there.

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As quick as I can.

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And they're sitting at the bottom of the steps.

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And yeah, this demon is just...

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arrogant as all can be.

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See what I did?

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You're God.

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He's supposed to protect you.

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Well, your God didn't protect this.

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Look what I did.

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Just arrogant, you know.

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And you can't let questions get started

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in your own head.

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Because if they get started,

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you're going to lose your faith.

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So I cast the demon out.

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Well, here I'm sitting with someone

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who's got a broke collarbone.

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It wasn't through the skin,

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but it was protruding, you know,

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out, pushing the skin out.

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I mean, it was obvious.

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We have a broken collarbone.

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You know.

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Make matters worse, this was a minor.

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So I said, God,

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this is a bad situation.

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And I just laid my hand on the collarbone.

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I said, God, in Jesus' name,

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I'm asking, heal us.

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I heard it crack.

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Just...

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And I lifted my hand.

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Totally gone.

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All the pain was gone.

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Everything was gone.

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And I'm going,

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wow.

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Never seen that before.

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So there was all kinds of stuff like that.

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But I didn't understand,

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you know, why would they get allowed

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to throw them down the steps?

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You get a thousand questions

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around this stuff.

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And you start asking the wrong people,

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you're going to get all the wrong answers.

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You just have to keep pushing forward

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and get what you can get from God.

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So there was that first question.

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This one kind of goes with it.

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Looking back at what you now know,

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what happened with you

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that started you in deliverance.

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So looking back to that beginning

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period of my life,

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could you have done anything different

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to prevent it from happening the way it did?

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Yes, absolutely.

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Do what the denominational

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leaders told me to do.

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Commit the person

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to a psychiatric hospital

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and walk away.

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That would have prevented it all.

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I wouldn't have had a hassle whatsoever.

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Do nothing.

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Don't get involved.

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But

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when the Holy Spirit

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deep down in your heart is saying

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the Father has asked you to do this,

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how do you walk away from that?

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I wanted to.

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I haven't had the name,

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the number of a psychiatric hospital

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in Illinois or Ohio

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that specialized

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in Christian

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demonic stuff, quote unquote.

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I was that close.

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So

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looking back, could have I done something

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to prevent it? Yeah, not do it.

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Other than that, there's nothing you can do to prevent it.

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You just got to do it.

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Just go through it. Number three.

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Have you looked back and seen you've

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done things wrong in deliverance?

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If yes, what approach do you take

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on, you know, you look back,

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you've seen things you've done wrong.

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If you've seen things you've done wrong,

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what approach do you take on it now?

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Yes.

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I can look back and see hundreds of times

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I've done things wrong.

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I mean, it's just

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there's not a book on it.

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You learn as you go.

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Every situation is different.

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Can you look back

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in your Christian life

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living for God

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and see things you've done wrong?

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And we've got a book on it.

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And we still

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mess up.

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So yeah, what approach do you take

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on it? You cannot get under

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condemnation and carry it or it will shut you down.

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You repent,

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you learn and grow, and you just keep

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going.

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You cannot get under condom.

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Well, I should never do this because I made

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some mistakes and this isn't working well.

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And now the person got hurt and now they're angry

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at me.

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That will take you right out.

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You repent,

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ask their forgiveness, try to

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learn from it and grow, and you just keep

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doing what God asked you to do.

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This is an interesting

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question. Number four.

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Since you've been

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pastoring in Minnesota, is there a demon

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that you've confronted here

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that you've never seen

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anywhere else?

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Isn't that an odd question?

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It's like, huh,

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that's an interesting question.

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You know what the interesting part is? The answer

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is yes, there's one that I've never

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experienced, I didn't experience

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when I lived in North Dakota,

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I didn't experience when I lived in Wisconsin, never experienced

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in Colorado. But I've experienced

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it here numerous times.

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And I'm

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going to give it a funny name.

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It's not the real name.

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But I'm going to give it a funny name to start

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with, because it'll maybe help you recognize it.

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It's

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the smiling in the face of

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horrific situations.

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Demon.

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It's the best way I can describe it.

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My husband

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was coming home from work today

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and a guy ran into him, could have killed him.

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See,

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something about that smile and that situation

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are not the same.

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You know

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the other night, I got so sick

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I had to go to the hospital, they said I could

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have died.

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And they just look at you and smile.

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And it's like, you know,

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your head goes, what's wrong with you?

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That isn't

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anything to smile about.

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Why are you smiling?

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But, it's

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hiding behind a smile

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when there's nothing to smile about.

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It's a demon of

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deception.

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And that's how it manifests.

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It's very

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secretive and it hides things.

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And they're

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giving you a piece of the story

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but they're not giving you the whole

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story.

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I'll give you an example. There's a difference

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between saying what's true

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and saying the truth.

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There's a huge

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difference.

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I was

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driving home

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and I don't know

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what happened. I just

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seemed like I lost control

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and I was in the

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ditch and ruined my car.

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Pastor, is the church

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help financially? I got to

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have a new car and I didn't have full coverage on it

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so what do we do?

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That story could

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absolutely be true.

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But now let me give

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you the details of the truth.

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I was driving home

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it was raining

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heavily.

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I should have slowed down

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but I was in a hurry.

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So I was driving fast

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and a deer jumped out

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and I swerved to miss it, lost control

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and wrecked my car.

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Well see the first

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version is true

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but it's really not the truth.

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Here's the truth.

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Pastor, I got so sick

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I ended up in the hospital

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I could have died.

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Okay, now tell me what's really going on.

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What did you have?

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What did they diagnose?

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And what are you doing

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in your life

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that God has already said stop

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doing that but you're still doing it

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and it was a contributing factor

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to this. Give me the truth.

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That demon won't give you the truth

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unless you really push on it.

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It hides behind the smile.

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Isn't it great?

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I could have died.

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Isn't it great?

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My husband could have died.

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No, it's not great.

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We need to get to bottom of this.

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This isn't the blessing of God.

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This is a curse in action.

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Somehow you're under the wrong flow.

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Quit smiling about it.

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You're hiding something.

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It's a demon of deception.

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They might try to be

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private or whatever

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but there's a demon there.

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I'm going to call it a demon of deception.

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I have never seen that one

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until we moved here.

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And I've seen it numerous times here.

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It's kind of a pattern

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so I won't say any more than that

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but I've seen it

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numerous people here

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carry that demon.

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I don't know what that's about

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but it is what it is.

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Number five.

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What is the worst demon

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you've ever faced?

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Hands down religious demons.

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It's not demons of adultery.

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It's not demons of alcohol.

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It's not demons of suicide.

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It's not demons of murder.

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Hands down it's religious demons.

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The reason for it is you can't

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get a handle on them.

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You can't grab them

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because the person's beliefs,

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the person's teaching

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act as a blocker

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from you being able to grab it.

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And when the demon's up

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and you're talking to it

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and you go, this is a religious demon

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that's tied in with this

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and you make it go down and bring the person back

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and say, here is what we're dealing with.

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We've got to renounce some stuff.

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They will argue with you

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why this can't be

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a demon or can't be right,

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can't be the real reason

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because they know what they believe.

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They've got their doctrines.

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You can't do anything with it

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because it will just

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laugh at you.

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They want me here.

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Well, yeah, with their erroneous belief system,

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doctrines, they do.

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So that's the worst. It's a Pharisee

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scribes kind of thing.

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You just... Jesus didn't cast

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any demons out of the Pharisees of the scribes.

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You ever notice that? Not one.

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Because they didn't have any.

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According to them.

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They didn't have any.

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So why would they need deliverance?

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And even if he would have tried,

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he would have gotten nowhere

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because submit yourself to God

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resists the devil

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and he will flee.

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Religious demons have people

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so convinced they're right

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they will not renounce

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and submit.

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They just won't go there.

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See, you don't make any progress with them.

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Number six.

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What do you do with a Christian who you suspect

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or know has demons

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but they don't recognize it?

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They don't know.

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Well, you pray.

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Because you can't talk them into it.

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Especially if they're Christians

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because chances are you're going to hit

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smack dab against the religious spirit

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and that's going to be a wall to you.

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Pray they realize it.

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It comes to them.

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The Holy Spirit is able to convince them

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to show them

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and they come to the realization

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something's wrong here.

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I need some help.

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Or pray and

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or pray that the Holy Spirit

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just brings it up.

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He'll do that.

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Gets in the anointing and all of a sudden

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this person's manifesting.

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And as somebody you would have never guessed

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then they would have never guessed many times.

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But they're manifesting.

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And that's not to embarrass anybody.

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That's the mercy of God.

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Bringing something up

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that needs to be dealt with

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that is unrecognized.

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So it's not a bad thing. It's a good thing.

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But that's about the only thing you can do

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is pray that God convinces them personally

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or that God brings it up.

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Number seven.

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Do you always get everyone free

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of demons when you're trying to cast them out?

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No.

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Don't. I haven't

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gotten everybody free.

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The reason for that is the person

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you're praying for

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has more to do with this

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than the person who's praying.

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If one of you

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has some kind of demons that

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you want out

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and we're praying for you

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remember

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the reason it's

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there is tied into sin

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somehow.

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I had one person tell me this.

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Generational spirit.

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Got a generational spirit.

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We got to renounce and cut off

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all generational stuff.

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My parents

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never had

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a sin problem.

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If anybody

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was holy

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it was mom and dad.

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So you're not going to renounce anything.

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There's nothing to renounce in my family line.

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Well, you're done.

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You're done right there.

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You can't go anywhere.

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You'll never get them free

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until they lose their loyalty

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to mom and dad and get real.

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And you know once people are gone

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it's worse than when they're here.

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As long as they're still here you can see

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their imperfections living out in front of you.

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Once they're gone some people

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tend to idolize

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their parents.

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And they did nothing wrong ever.

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And that was the case.

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So we could

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pray our eyes out.

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That demon will never leave.

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Because they have to do James 4-7.

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And right now they're hanging onto it

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out of their own pride.

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Or if somebody's not willing

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to come clean of some kind of sin

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or whatever.

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Remember James 4-7

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worked beautifully.

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But James 4-7

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is built on the submission of the heart.

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It's not a silver bullet.

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That you can just

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go around shooting people with

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and boom they're free.

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This is a hard issue.

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Submit yourself

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to God.

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That's a hard issue.

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Resist the devil

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or the things of that kingdom.

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You're going to

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need to stop

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which is you something simple.

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Yelling at your wife.

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You got to stop the walking around the house

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raging.

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Breaking things.

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Punching things.

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Kicking the dog.

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You're going to have to grow.

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I don't see where it's a problem.

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She's the dumb one.

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That demon will never leave.

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Because they're not

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resisting it.

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They're embracing it.

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They like it for whatever reason.

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So it's James 4-7

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is not a silver bullet.

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But it does work beautifully

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if the person is working in agreement with you.

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So the person has more

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to do with their deliverance than you do.

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In reality.

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Keep that in mind.

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Because there's times you don't get things

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out of people and you feel like

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the biggest failure that ever walked

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the face of the earth.

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Remember.

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They have more to do with this

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than you do. It's their body.

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It's their temple. It's their life.

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You're just coming alongside to try to deal with something with them.

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So just keep that in mind.

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What is the weirdest

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or most shocking things

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and they had to put an S on it.

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Not thing. Things.

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You've had happen in deliverance.

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To me.

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And this is purely subjective.

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To me the most weird things

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I've had happen are the poltergeist

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manifestations.

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Poltergeist is the word used

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to express when the spirit realm

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manifests in the physical realm

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somehow.

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And

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God does this.

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That's why they can do it. God does this.

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The Holy Spirit.

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His angels and so forth.

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Things from the spirit realm

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will manifest in our realm.

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We pray for it on a daily basis, hopefully.

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On a weekly basis

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and church, hopefully.

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You know, if you're praying for healing

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you're praying for something in the spirit realm

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to manifest in the physical realm.

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So this should be a very

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common thing

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that can take place.

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Another example is

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supernatural

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transportation.

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Being here

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and the next moment you're there.

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Like happened with Philip.

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He was

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transported back

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to where he needed to go after he dealt with

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the Ethiopian eunuch.

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Supernatural transportation. Well God does

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that not only with people, God does that

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with things.

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I'll give you one example.

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We were working on this building.

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This was in 2012. We were working on

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this building and that was a hectic

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year. That was a hard year.

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And there was something really important

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that I needed. I was at home

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and I believe

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it was morning and I was coming over

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and there was something really important

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that I needed that was laying on the

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countertop. Because I laid it there

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because you're not going to forget this. You need

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this today.

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I'm almost all the way over here.

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Oh man.

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I forgot it.

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It's still laying

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on the countertop. I never brought it

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with. I thought, well,

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whatever. Maybe somebody else is coming.

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I'll get a hold of Mary, see if she can bring it.

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Whatever.

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I come in here. I go into that

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mechanical room and it's laying

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in there.

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And I know for a fact

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it was laying on my

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countertop at home.

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And there it is. And I'm going

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Yeah, that was

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you.

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That was you. You just

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helping me out here a little bit.

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Supernatural transportation.

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Well, God's kingdom can do

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it. So guess what?

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If that's the spiritual law, then the kingdom of darkness

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is going to try to imitate that and play

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with that also. And you will get

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manifestations of stuff

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that can get weird.

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Stuff floating

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floating through the house, floating

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around the room.

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You're praying deliverance

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on somebody. You had your Bible

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right here on the end table

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and now you need a scripture and you reach

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for it and it's gone.

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Where to go?

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You find it in a bathtub

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or some strange place.

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Those things just get weird.

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I've shared a few other

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things with you on that

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like the person being drugged

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down the hallway and stuff like that.

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Just weird stuff.

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It's typically tied to

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generational

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sins of the father's familiar spirit

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stuff. That's why they have

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more ability or more power

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to operate.

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It typically goes back a few generations

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and that's where they're gaining their strength.

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And another thing I found

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is really good to bind a strong man.

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It really helps in these kind of situations

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when you're dealing with that person.

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Because this is all distractions. This is all to scare you.

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I had shared

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so they wanted the things

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I'll give you three of the weirdest things that

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has happened to me. I shared the

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story of the knife that was thrown at me that bounced

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and I shared that, remember that

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early on I shared that.

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I won't share that again.

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Did I share the one where a person was stabbed

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with a knife?

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In the stomach.

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That was really weird too.

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And again, God just did an awesome

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miracle just to

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out of mercy on me and grace

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for them.

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It was the same person that they were trying

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to throw out of the car, that same person.

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So

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they're with me 24-7.

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So

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as my memory says

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we were in the living room.

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I was sitting in the couch.

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They were sitting on the chair.

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I had to go to the bathroom. So I went to the bathroom

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came back. They're still sitting on the chair.

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I think they were watching TV or something.

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And I'm

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on the couch.

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Went back from the same spot

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and all of a sudden I saw this demon come up.

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You can just see it.

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And this demon comes up

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and got this big grin.

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Now

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I'm going to kill her

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and I will win.

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Reach down

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underneath the cushion

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of the chair and pulled out

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this butcher knife.

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How did it get there?

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I'm guessing when I went to the bathroom

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the person, it came up and the person

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blocked him out, went to the kitchen, got the butcher knife,

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came back, hit it.

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So it could make its big spiel.

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How great and wonderful I am as a demon

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because I'm going to accomplish

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this.

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That was weird.

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Weirder yet was

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watching them get stabbed

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and then totally healed.

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Did I tell you about

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the first experience? I had this also

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involve the knife. First experience

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I had when

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this was really early on.

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When someone

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came to the house

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for help

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actually it was the apartment at that point.

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Came to the apartment for help

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and

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they went to the kitchen drawer and grabbed the knife.

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Did I share that one with you?

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Don't remember that one? Couple of nodding yes.

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Most of you are nodding no.

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So let me quickly share that one.

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So they come to the apartment, they sit down

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my wife and I are there and we are talking to this person

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and all of a sudden the demon comes up

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and starts just harassing us.

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So I go, you have no power

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or authority over us.

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Well I'm going to kill you and kill both of you.

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No. It doesn't work that way

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and on and on and on.

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And

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finally it got ticked off

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or whatever so the person jumps up

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runs into the kitchen grabs

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a butcher knife. Biggest thing

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they can find in the drawer comes back

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now I'm going to cut

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you up.

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Well that took me off guard.

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I'm early

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on in this and it's like, should this be happening right?

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I don't think this should be happening.

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So I, you know, start taking authority

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over it, commanding it to drop the knife

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nothing. Just nothing.

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So I thought, well if it's coming

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at me, I had a

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not this kind of Bible, I had

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still the pages Bible.

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So I grabbed my Bible. I thought, well I'm going to

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I'm going to stand here looking cool and calm

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but if it comes at me I'm going to try to protect

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myself from the knife and let it stab the Bible.

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Okay.

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So I'm trying to think ahead a little bit here.

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Well I noticed

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as I was holding the Bible

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if I moved it at all

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it couldn't keep its eyes off of it.

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If I just moved the Bible

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like this it would look

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and that happened two, three times

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and the Holy Spirit was faithful.

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He said, use that.

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So I switched hands

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and as I

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switched hands it's just like

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it couldn't keep its eyes off the Bible.

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It hated the Bible. It was just cussing

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and cursing the book. Why are you holding

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the book? It's a worthless book.

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Jesus is dead. He never rose from the

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and you're just cursing the Bible.

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So I switched hands and it's like it was just

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glued, watching me, watching the Bible.

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So I took the Bible and I held it out like this

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and it's just riveted on it

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and I dropped it.

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Boom! As it hits

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the floor they're just fully looking like this.

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I grabbed the arm.

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Got the arm in the air.

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But in this case, the demon

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was exhibiting some strength through the person

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and I couldn't get the knife away.

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It wasn't all that

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strong, but strong enough

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I couldn't get the knife away.

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So I told my

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spouse, get

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the head pastor over here. I need help.

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I'll never forget the look

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in his face. There I'm standing, probably

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five minutes, holding his hand in the air

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with a knife in it and there's demons in this person right here

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just cussing me out, you know.

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He walks in.

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The shocked look

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in his face was like

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how did you get into this mess?

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What was the

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look on his face?

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But

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we went on and got it reconciled

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and got it dealt with.

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you will have

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bizarre things happen. Hopefully

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none of you have a knife experience.

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I'm just, I'm good if I never

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have another one in my life.

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But you will have

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bizarre things happen that are poltergeist

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things. Doors banging.

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Middle of the night

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the doorbell. Ding ding ding ding

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ding ding ding. You go

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the screen door standing wide open.

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That's odd.

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Two in the morning, whatever it was.

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You go flip the light on, look out the window.

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There's nobody out there and the screen door standing open. Ding ding

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ding ding ding ding.

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You open the door, screen door standing

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open and they go doorbell ding. Then somebody

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is holding the button. Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

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Well, by this point

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we were far enough into it. We knew what that was.

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So you just take authority over it. Get out of here.

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You know, dealt with it.

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Screen door closes. Doorbell quits ringing.

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Close the door. Go back to bed.

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After a while you kind of get used to it.

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Because all they are trying to do is

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instill fear.

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And if you

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talk to anybody

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who has no experience in this

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about what's happening

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they will help instill fear

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because they're going to be afraid themselves.

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And their advice is going to be

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you better get out of that situation.

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And they'll go all these fear scenarios

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of how this could really go bad.

58:12.330 --> 58:14.570
Be careful who you talk to. But

58:15.670 --> 58:16.890
yeah, all kinds

58:16.890 --> 58:18.810
of poltergeist stuff. That's the weirdest to me.

58:19.470 --> 58:20.930
They're cussing at you.

58:21.090 --> 58:22.350
They're telling you

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all kinds of stuff. Whatever.

58:25.250 --> 58:25.990
But when

58:27.270 --> 58:28.690
manifestations start happening

58:28.690 --> 58:29.850
that can get weird.

58:30.410 --> 58:32.830
Number nine. So I'm not quite halfway

58:32.830 --> 58:34.810
through the questions yet. We're coming up on eight.

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I have 21 questions I think.

58:38.050 --> 58:38.530
Number nine.

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If you could give one piece of advice

58:40.690 --> 58:42.850
to somebody or someone going into

58:42.850 --> 58:44.730
deliverance ministry what would it be?

58:45.830 --> 58:46.910
I can't give

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just one piece of advice.

58:49.270 --> 58:50.770
I guess. James four

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seven would be the closest

58:52.830 --> 58:54.950
I could get to. Here's one thing you

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must know. It'd be that.

58:57.210 --> 58:58.630
But I'll give you a couple of thoughts.

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I've got a few written down here.

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Number one. If you're going to do

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deliverance

59:04.690 --> 59:07.210
you cannot play spiritual

59:07.210 --> 59:08.770
games in your own

59:08.770 --> 59:10.110
personal life.

59:11.770 --> 59:13.230
To your knowledge

59:13.230 --> 59:15.110
you personally have

59:15.110 --> 59:17.190
to be a hundred percent submitted

59:17.750 --> 59:18.630
to God

59:18.630 --> 59:20.770
or these things are going to turn

59:20.770 --> 59:22.750
your deliverance sessions into a circus.

59:24.830 --> 59:26.990
The first thing they will do is act

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like they're leaving but they don't

59:28.590 --> 59:30.930
because you don't have the authority to kick them out because you're in sin

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yourself.

59:33.070 --> 59:34.730
And that's the first game they'll play.

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And then from there

59:37.490 --> 59:38.970
just kind of spirals down.

59:39.210 --> 59:41.130
So number one you can't play games

59:41.130 --> 59:43.270
in your own spiritual personal life.

59:43.870 --> 59:45.170
You've got to be a hundred percent

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submitted to God. Number two

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be ready to give up a lot of things

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other Christians are doing in their ignorance.

59:54.660 --> 59:56.740
Do you know how I could shut down

59:56.740 --> 59:58.500
my ability to cast out a demon?

59:58.680 --> 01:00:00.620
I've never tried it but it's something I just know

01:00:00.620 --> 01:00:02.080
all I'd have to do.

01:00:03.580 --> 01:00:04.980
Start celebrating Halloween.

01:00:05.820 --> 01:00:07.120
It would be over.

01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:09.480
I would never cast another demon

01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:11.060
until I repented of that

01:00:11.640 --> 01:00:13.320
and came back to the stance

01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:14.380
God told me to take.

01:00:15.040 --> 01:00:16.900
And you can't believe

01:00:16.900 --> 01:00:19.280
the grief we've been

01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:20.720
given, not by unbelievers.

01:00:21.460 --> 01:00:22.580
You know the thing that's crazy

01:00:22.580 --> 01:00:24.880
is unbelievers don't really care.

01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:27.240
Oh, you don't celebrate

01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:28.260
Halloween?

01:00:28.980 --> 01:00:31.440
That's cool. We do. Whatever. They go on.

01:00:32.600 --> 01:00:33.100
Christians

01:00:33.100 --> 01:00:35.000
turn it into this huge theological

01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:36.160
debate right away.

01:00:38.100 --> 01:00:39.240
It's like, well what is

01:00:39.240 --> 01:00:40.880
it of your business? Who cares?

01:00:41.720 --> 01:00:42.880
Well somehow it's

01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:44.120
their business because they're Christians

01:00:44.120 --> 01:00:45.860
and they're going to prove to you

01:00:45.860 --> 01:00:48.940
it's okay. I can't celebrate

01:00:48.940 --> 01:00:49.700
this.

01:00:50.380 --> 01:00:52.240
This is a me and God thing.

01:00:54.040 --> 01:00:55.020
You can go

01:00:55.020 --> 01:00:56.260
do whatever you want.

01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:57.940
When you get to heaven we're going to find out

01:00:57.940 --> 01:00:58.760
you were wrong.

01:01:00.420 --> 01:01:02.560
But for now I can't convince you

01:01:03.160 --> 01:01:04.940
because you got a religious spirit

01:01:04.940 --> 01:01:06.940
and you're going to defend it to your death.

01:01:08.140 --> 01:01:09.160
So why should I

01:01:09.160 --> 01:01:10.820
waste my breath trying to convince you?

01:01:14.260 --> 01:01:14.760
Heart

01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:16.520
issues, heart attitudes

01:01:17.620 --> 01:01:19.040
you got to keep your heart clean.

01:01:20.420 --> 01:01:21.340
A lot of Christians

01:01:21.340 --> 01:01:23.120
walk around with their chip on their

01:01:23.120 --> 01:01:25.240
shoulder towards people. They live that way.

01:01:25.720 --> 01:01:27.140
You cannot be a deliverance person

01:01:27.140 --> 01:01:29.020
and do that. You've got to learn to

01:01:29.020 --> 01:01:30.780
forgive, move on, forget about it.

01:01:31.240 --> 01:01:33.060
If you carry a chip it will shut

01:01:33.060 --> 01:01:34.680
it down. It just

01:01:35.220 --> 01:01:36.820
it just works that way.

01:01:40.140 --> 01:01:40.700
Addictions

01:01:45.910 --> 01:01:47.030
You know

01:01:47.030 --> 01:01:48.110
the first thing we reach for is

01:01:48.110 --> 01:01:49.390
alcohol and drugs.

01:01:50.810 --> 01:01:52.090
There's a lot of addictions

01:01:52.090 --> 01:01:53.310
besides alcohol and drugs.

01:01:56.190 --> 01:01:57.310
If you

01:01:57.310 --> 01:01:58.050
are addicted

01:01:58.050 --> 01:02:00.350
you're going to struggle to do deliverance

01:02:00.350 --> 01:02:01.210
because addiction

01:02:01.210 --> 01:02:03.210
Romans 6, 7 and 8 we just looked at

01:02:03.210 --> 01:02:04.010
a couple weeks ago

01:02:04.010 --> 01:02:06.030
is you personally

01:02:06.030 --> 01:02:07.790
are under the power

01:02:07.790 --> 01:02:08.570
of something.

01:02:10.450 --> 01:02:11.610
That will really

01:02:11.610 --> 01:02:13.770
hamper your ability to help someone

01:02:13.770 --> 01:02:15.790
else who's under the power of

01:02:15.790 --> 01:02:16.150
something.

01:02:17.730 --> 01:02:19.830
And if you're in a kind of a

01:02:19.830 --> 01:02:21.730
deliverance where demons never come up

01:02:21.730 --> 01:02:23.710
and talk to you, you can probably get by with it.

01:02:24.050 --> 01:02:25.650
People don't get free, but you can

01:02:25.650 --> 01:02:27.490
get by with it. If you get yourself

01:02:27.490 --> 01:02:29.550
in a position where demons come up and start

01:02:29.550 --> 01:02:31.430
telling you why you can't do this

01:02:31.430 --> 01:02:33.690
the first thing they will point

01:02:33.690 --> 01:02:35.750
out to you is your addiction.

01:02:36.990 --> 01:02:37.670
You

01:02:37.670 --> 01:02:40.030
are a hypocrite.

01:02:40.410 --> 01:02:41.570
Had that told to me

01:02:41.570 --> 01:02:43.790
you are a hypocrite, you

01:02:43.790 --> 01:02:45.050
Christian hypocrites.

01:02:45.790 --> 01:02:47.590
I said I'm not a hypocrite.

01:02:48.290 --> 01:02:50.290
You have no authority over me.

01:02:51.230 --> 01:02:51.910
We

01:02:51.910 --> 01:02:53.130
have control over you.

01:02:54.410 --> 01:02:55.810
You do not.

01:02:56.710 --> 01:02:57.390
Here it came.

01:02:58.650 --> 01:03:00.010
Well then stop doing this.

01:03:01.750 --> 01:03:03.410
They pointed out my addiction.

01:03:05.750 --> 01:03:07.470
You said what do you mean for an addiction?

01:03:08.070 --> 01:03:09.810
Some people are addicted to exercise.

01:03:12.290 --> 01:03:13.590
They have to

01:03:13.590 --> 01:03:15.330
exercise on a daily basis.

01:03:15.550 --> 01:03:17.490
Or they lose their peace. They lose their

01:03:17.490 --> 01:03:19.670
self-worth. Anything that

01:03:19.670 --> 01:03:21.670
controls you that you can't

01:03:21.670 --> 01:03:22.530
stop

01:03:23.970 --> 01:03:25.150
and be at peace

01:03:25.150 --> 01:03:27.710
and be fine is an addiction.

01:03:28.670 --> 01:03:29.630
Chocolate cake

01:03:29.630 --> 01:03:30.410
can be an addiction.

01:03:35.240 --> 01:03:37.080
You know Christians we have

01:03:37.080 --> 01:03:38.900
our white sins

01:03:38.900 --> 01:03:40.480
and we have our black sins.

01:03:41.200 --> 01:03:43.000
And when we talk about addictions

01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.020
we all turn and look at the black

01:03:45.020 --> 01:03:47.000
sins. Oh yeah

01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:49.160
those people. They really

01:03:49.160 --> 01:03:50.660
need to stop that

01:03:51.980 --> 01:03:52.660
while

01:03:52.660 --> 01:03:53.880
we're struggling

01:03:57.080 --> 01:03:58.800
to go a half a day

01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:00.540
to start a day

01:04:00.540 --> 01:04:01.400
without coffee.

01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:04.680
And then we even

01:04:04.680 --> 01:04:06.500
make it

01:04:06.500 --> 01:04:07.720
to me it's like

01:04:07.720 --> 01:04:10.260
wow that's close to blasphemy. I've walked into

01:04:10.260 --> 01:04:11.680
some churches where they make

01:04:12.500 --> 01:04:14.440
little sayings trying to make coffee

01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:15.160
scriptural.

01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:20.180
I was in one in South Dakota

01:04:20.780 --> 01:04:22.340
you know we're on vacation going to church

01:04:22.340 --> 01:04:24.500
and they got a nice coffee bar. I spent a few bucks

01:04:24.500 --> 01:04:26.500
on that nice coffee bar. Right above it it said

01:04:27.060 --> 01:04:27.940
holy grounds.

01:04:31.200 --> 01:04:31.940
And it's like

01:04:33.520 --> 01:04:33.960
okay

01:04:36.580 --> 01:04:38.320
you're feeding people's addictions

01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:39.520
and you're calling it holy.

01:04:42.700 --> 01:04:44.240
So when I say addictions

01:04:44.240 --> 01:04:45.100
it can be anything.

01:04:46.220 --> 01:04:48.000
Anything that is controlling you

01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:49.120
you're not in control of it.

01:04:49.900 --> 01:04:52.020
And I know the famous line is why you can stop anytime

01:04:52.020 --> 01:04:53.980
I want to. Well then do it.

01:04:55.380 --> 01:04:56.580
Knock it off for a year

01:04:56.580 --> 01:04:57.600
just let her go.

01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:00.420
Well I don't know if I want to.

01:05:01.060 --> 01:05:01.780
There you go.

01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:03.180
Because you're addicted.

01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:06.460
You have to

01:05:06.460 --> 01:05:08.180
be ready to give

01:05:08.180 --> 01:05:10.000
some things up the average Christian

01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:12.140
will live with

01:05:12.140 --> 01:05:13.880
because they don't have the insight

01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:15.400
the revelation you do

01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:18.140
and God's going to require things of you

01:05:18.140 --> 01:05:19.620
to operate in this.

01:05:20.680 --> 01:05:22.180
Healing ministry is the same thing.

01:05:24.160 --> 01:05:26.080
Any focused ministry

01:05:26.080 --> 01:05:28.280
I just read something about

01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:29.560
Catherine Coleman just

01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:31.220
last couple weeks.

01:05:32.700 --> 01:05:33.040
And

01:05:33.040 --> 01:05:36.080
I don't know if she made the

01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:37.900
statement or somebody who was near

01:05:37.900 --> 01:05:39.100
her made the statement

01:05:39.100 --> 01:05:41.280
but they were talking about

01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:42.560
the awesome miracles

01:05:43.500 --> 01:05:44.260
that

01:05:45.040 --> 01:05:46.820
were happening in her ministry

01:05:46.820 --> 01:05:48.720
or happened in her ministry

01:05:48.720 --> 01:05:51.060
and then at the end they said

01:05:51.060 --> 01:05:53.020
and it cost her

01:05:53.020 --> 01:05:54.140
everything.

01:05:55.740 --> 01:05:57.820
It cost her everything

01:05:57.820 --> 01:05:58.880
for those

01:05:58.880 --> 01:05:59.980
to keep happening.

01:06:01.020 --> 01:06:02.120
And everything is

01:06:02.820 --> 01:06:03.260
everything.

01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:06.840
But we were planning to go on a

01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:08.180
vacation. God says no.

01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:09.680
You don't go on that vacation.

01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:11.440
How can it be a sin to go on vacation?

01:06:11.700 --> 01:06:12.620
Because God said no.

01:06:14.140 --> 01:06:15.180
Vacation is not a sin.

01:06:15.340 --> 01:06:17.200
But when God says no, it becomes one

01:06:17.200 --> 01:06:17.800
if you disobey.

01:06:18.720 --> 01:06:20.600
You have to die to

01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:21.920
everything.

01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:23.920
Just the way it works.

01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:27.680
Piece of advice to someone

01:06:27.680 --> 01:06:28.460
going into

01:06:30.340 --> 01:06:31.260
Deliverance ministry.

01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:33.320
Focus on growth in faith

01:06:33.900 --> 01:06:35.420
and hearing God's voice.

01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:37.400
Make those too in extreme

01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:39.440
focus to grow in faith

01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:40.800
and hear God's voice.

01:06:41.720 --> 01:06:43.660
Another point, deal with your own fear

01:06:44.460 --> 01:06:45.880
as quickly as you can.

01:06:46.620 --> 01:06:47.760
Deal with your own fear

01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:49.380
and anything else

01:06:49.380 --> 01:06:50.600
God will bring to your attention.

01:06:50.940 --> 01:06:52.580
And he will bring things to your attention.

01:06:53.120 --> 01:06:55.100
You have to deal with them as quickly as possible

01:06:55.100 --> 01:06:56.460
or they get in the way.

01:06:57.700 --> 01:06:58.240
And

01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:01.460
here's my last

01:07:02.260 --> 01:07:02.800
point.

01:07:02.980 --> 01:07:05.400
Well, I'll make this one my second to last.

01:07:06.120 --> 01:07:06.660
Now

01:07:06.660 --> 01:07:09.080
there's some good resources out there

01:07:09.080 --> 01:07:11.080
that can help you including

01:07:11.080 --> 01:07:12.300
Deliverance Ministries.

01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.180
Back when I got into this thing

01:07:16.180 --> 01:07:17.320
42 years ago

01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:18.700
43 almost

01:07:21.580 --> 01:07:23.200
the only book on demons

01:07:23.200 --> 01:07:25.140
I could get ahold of was Pigs in the Parlor.

01:07:26.560 --> 01:07:27.860
It's the only one I could find.

01:07:28.500 --> 01:07:29.940
There was nothing out there.

01:07:31.380 --> 01:07:32.580
And the next...

01:07:32.580 --> 01:07:34.440
Well, there's people who deal with people with demons

01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:35.940
they're in psychiatric hospitals.

01:07:36.380 --> 01:07:37.640
That was the next up.

01:07:38.700 --> 01:07:40.800
There wasn't... I mean stop and think back

01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:42.860
to 1980, 81.

01:07:43.260 --> 01:07:45.640
How many deliverance ministries did you know of?

01:07:45.900 --> 01:07:47.420
Now there were people doing deliverance.

01:07:48.060 --> 01:07:49.360
That's been since Jesus.

01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:51.580
But I'm talking

01:07:51.580 --> 01:07:53.380
a place you could go to

01:07:53.380 --> 01:07:55.260
to get resources

01:07:55.260 --> 01:07:57.440
and help. I couldn't find any.

01:07:58.620 --> 01:08:00.080
So now it's a whole lot better.

01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:01.220
And since they're there

01:08:01.220 --> 01:08:04.020
use some good resources. Abail yourself of them.

01:08:04.120 --> 01:08:05.480
So here's the last point I've got.

01:08:06.200 --> 01:08:07.760
If you're going to step into any kind

01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:09.420
of specialized ministry specifically

01:08:09.420 --> 01:08:10.940
Deliverance Ministry

01:08:11.640 --> 01:08:13.940
realize you are becoming a target.

01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:17.740
You just have painted a huge

01:08:17.740 --> 01:08:18.340
target

01:08:18.340 --> 01:08:20.320
on you

01:08:20.320 --> 01:08:21.620
and your family.

01:08:22.540 --> 01:08:24.040
This isn't glamorous.

01:08:24.620 --> 01:08:25.820
This isn't exciting

01:08:26.340 --> 01:08:28.500
to begin with. It's looked at that way.

01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:30.300
But after you're in it, it is not

01:08:30.300 --> 01:08:31.480
glamorous or exciting.

01:08:32.120 --> 01:08:34.500
There's a price you're going to pay to do this.

01:08:35.580 --> 01:08:36.380
And the

01:08:36.380 --> 01:08:38.040
once you start

01:08:39.060 --> 01:08:40.340
shooting at

01:08:40.340 --> 01:08:42.200
and killing some of the enemy

01:08:42.200 --> 01:08:44.160
they will

01:08:44.160 --> 01:08:45.340
shoot back.

01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:47.800
Surprise, surprise.

01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:50.640
And if they can't beat you

01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:51.500
face on

01:08:52.900 --> 01:08:54.340
they'll sniper you out.

01:08:55.440 --> 01:08:56.980
They'll do whatever they can.

01:08:58.040 --> 01:08:59.380
And you and your family

01:08:59.380 --> 01:09:00.460
will come under attack.

01:09:00.700 --> 01:09:02.160
My children have faced things they would

01:09:02.160 --> 01:09:03.980
have never faced had I not gotten into

01:09:03.980 --> 01:09:04.760
Deliverance Ministry.

01:09:06.320 --> 01:09:07.560
It's just the way it is.

01:09:08.740 --> 01:09:10.020
People with demons

01:09:10.020 --> 01:09:11.160
mostly Christians

01:09:12.500 --> 01:09:14.020
will criticize you

01:09:14.020 --> 01:09:15.940
turn others against you, undermine you

01:09:15.940 --> 01:09:17.460
judge you, lie about you.

01:09:17.700 --> 01:09:20.040
The whole thing kind of just falls under the banner of persecution.

01:09:21.120 --> 01:09:21.940
But it's not

01:09:21.940 --> 01:09:23.860
the unsaved who do it. It's the Christians

01:09:23.860 --> 01:09:26.040
who do it. You've got a target

01:09:26.040 --> 01:09:28.160
on your back and the demons in them

01:09:29.200 --> 01:09:30.060
will turn

01:09:30.060 --> 01:09:30.740
on you.

01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:33.840
And I've had numerous people that I know

01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:35.340
have demons tell me

01:09:35.850 --> 01:09:37.500
you know there's some days I just hate you.

01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:39.900
Everything that wells

01:09:39.900 --> 01:09:41.160
up inside of me is

01:09:41.160 --> 01:09:43.380
is I just hate you. I wish you'd die

01:09:43.380 --> 01:09:44.000
and go away.

01:09:44.900 --> 01:09:46.740
But I realize it's wrong

01:09:46.740 --> 01:09:48.360
so I ask God to help me with that.

01:09:49.620 --> 01:09:50.360
And I'm going

01:09:51.200 --> 01:09:53.260
yeah it's wrong but this goes a little deeper

01:09:53.260 --> 01:09:53.780
than wrong.

01:09:55.240 --> 01:09:56.980
We have a problem here.

01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:01.120
But if I told them

01:10:01.120 --> 01:10:02.540
you know what the core of that is?

01:10:03.060 --> 01:10:03.840
You've got demons.

01:10:05.740 --> 01:10:07.240
Some of, most people get very

01:10:07.240 --> 01:10:09.080
incensed. I do not.

01:10:09.080 --> 01:10:09.760
Yeah.

01:10:11.620 --> 01:10:13.080
Well the average person doesn't think

01:10:13.080 --> 01:10:14.960
that way. You know it's

01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:17.280
people will hate you who have no reason

01:10:17.280 --> 01:10:17.920
to hate you.

01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.700
Because you're on enemy

01:10:20.700 --> 01:10:22.960
ground and they've got demons.

01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:25.220
So that's number 10.

01:10:25.860 --> 01:10:27.140
We'll get to number 10

01:10:27.140 --> 01:10:29.160
when we come back. Now we're going to do

01:10:29.160 --> 01:10:31.040
hand out. We got to get through this tonight.

01:10:32.100 --> 01:10:33.160
Guys can I have you

01:10:33.160 --> 01:10:33.920
help me with this?

01:10:39.060 --> 01:10:39.680
Let's see.

01:10:40.100 --> 01:10:40.920
I better not.

01:10:41.060 --> 01:10:42.540
Can you write it down or remember it?

01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:44.380
Please. Because if I get

01:10:44.380 --> 01:10:45.640
sidetracked I know how this goes.

01:10:46.420 --> 01:10:47.760
It's like a ball of yarn

01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:49.160
and you start pulling it. It's just

01:10:49.160 --> 01:10:49.980
going to keep coming.

01:10:51.540 --> 01:10:53.040
And I can't get sidetracked

01:10:53.040 --> 01:10:54.240
or we're not going to get through some

01:10:54.240 --> 01:10:55.240
things we have to get through.

01:10:55.440 --> 01:10:57.240
This piece right here we have to get

01:10:57.240 --> 01:10:59.300
through. It says

01:10:59.300 --> 01:11:00.640
revisiting the two main ways

01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:02.080
demons gain access to humans.

01:11:02.300 --> 01:11:03.980
You should have this available to you

01:11:03.980 --> 01:11:06.320
online under messages.

01:11:07.240 --> 01:11:08.580
Go there. You should have this

01:11:08.580 --> 01:11:10.380
in a PDF format if you want to look at it

01:11:10.380 --> 01:11:12.300
that way. Otherwise you can follow it on the screen

01:11:12.300 --> 01:11:13.360
for now and get it later.

01:11:14.860 --> 01:11:16.360
We've already talked about this

01:11:16.360 --> 01:11:18.320
but I want to look at it from another perspective.

01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:20.180
Paul talks about it again in Ephesians

01:11:20.180 --> 01:11:22.200
4, 27. We're told

01:11:22.200 --> 01:11:24.360
not to give place or give a foothold

01:11:24.360 --> 01:11:25.740
or leave room for the devil.

01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:28.180
And we'll see that in the three translations

01:11:28.180 --> 01:11:30.100
down here. We've already

01:11:30.100 --> 01:11:31.900
seen how this is done by

01:11:31.900 --> 01:11:33.220
getting involved with sin.

01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.300
You can give place to demons

01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:38.200
by getting involved

01:11:38.200 --> 01:11:40.380
in sin. I mean we've talked about that

01:11:40.380 --> 01:11:42.220
over and over and over. Sin is the

01:11:42.220 --> 01:11:44.100
core. Sin is the legal right.

01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:45.820
So that's one way.

01:11:45.940 --> 01:11:48.000
So I'm not going to go back into that. I want to go

01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:49.760
into the second way Paul brings up.

01:11:50.240 --> 01:11:51.880
He adds a new piece of information

01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:54.120
here in Ephesians 4. And this

01:11:54.120 --> 01:11:56.240
was one of those experiential

01:11:56.240 --> 01:11:58.400
things that happened that I had

01:11:58.400 --> 01:12:00.140
to go to the scripture and find

01:12:00.900 --> 01:12:02.160
is this even true?

01:12:04.140 --> 01:12:06.020
This comes out of that

01:12:06.020 --> 01:12:08.000
night early on

01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:08.760
when

01:12:10.140 --> 01:12:12.280
there was a group of us and we were asking

01:12:12.280 --> 01:12:14.100
what gives you the right to be here

01:12:14.100 --> 01:12:16.320
and the only way they could describe it

01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:17.860
is there is an empty space

01:12:17.860 --> 01:12:19.880
or they called it a live hole

01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:21.260
in the person's temple.

01:12:22.400 --> 01:12:23.940
And that's what gives them the right.

01:12:24.700 --> 01:12:26.240
And they couldn't figure out

01:12:26.240 --> 01:12:27.940
why it was there or they

01:12:27.940 --> 01:12:30.040
were refusing to say why it was there.

01:12:30.660 --> 01:12:32.120
But there was a hole

01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:33.360
and

01:12:34.200 --> 01:12:35.860
when there's a hole we move in

01:12:35.860 --> 01:12:36.840
because we want a body.

01:12:37.440 --> 01:12:39.720
So here is the scripture on that.

01:12:40.320 --> 01:12:41.780
Ephesians 4, out of the

01:12:41.780 --> 01:12:43.620
amplified, when angry do not sin

01:12:43.620 --> 01:12:45.680
do not ever let your wrath or your

01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:47.920
exasperation, your fury, your indignation

01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:50.160
last until the sun goes down.

01:12:51.240 --> 01:12:52.140
Now the way we approach

01:12:52.140 --> 01:12:52.840
that is

01:12:54.460 --> 01:12:55.880
and again trying to just

01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:57.460
give some rules and guidelines

01:12:59.700 --> 01:13:01.120
if the sun is setting

01:13:01.120 --> 01:13:04.060
when you're having a knock down drag out

01:13:04.060 --> 01:13:05.560
fight with somebody and you're angry

01:13:06.200 --> 01:13:08.160
you know. If you can solve that

01:13:08.160 --> 01:13:10.240
before the sun goes down, more power to you

01:13:10.240 --> 01:13:12.020
but a lot of times we can't.

01:13:12.340 --> 01:13:14.080
So we at that point

01:13:14.080 --> 01:13:16.620
I come from the perspective you've got 24 hours

01:13:16.620 --> 01:13:17.680
to resolve this.

01:13:19.060 --> 01:13:20.100
If it started

01:13:20.100 --> 01:13:22.100
at 2 in the afternoon and you were done by

01:13:22.100 --> 01:13:23.720
3 in the afternoon, if it's winter

01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:25.200
you've got about an hour and a half

01:13:26.020 --> 01:13:27.260
4.30 the sun sets.

01:13:28.280 --> 01:13:30.060
If it's summer you've got a little bit more time

01:13:30.060 --> 01:13:32.200
to work your way through this. It sets a little later.

01:13:34.280 --> 01:13:36.160
So my whole point is if you're going to get

01:13:36.160 --> 01:13:38.260
in a good fight do it after the sun set

01:13:38.260 --> 01:13:39.560
so it gives you more time to work.

01:13:39.940 --> 01:13:42.140
I'm just messing with you.

01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:46.400
But it comes out of the way this is worded.

01:13:46.700 --> 01:13:48.280
Don't stay angry until the sun

01:13:48.280 --> 01:13:48.760
goes down.

01:13:49.780 --> 01:13:52.660
Well, 24 hours max

01:13:52.660 --> 01:13:54.780
you've got to deal with this.

01:13:56.260 --> 01:13:58.640
Leave no such room.

01:13:59.660 --> 01:14:00.640
Well in the amplified

01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:02.460
such room is referring back

01:14:02.460 --> 01:14:04.220
to your anger that's not resolved.

01:14:05.020 --> 01:14:06.180
That becomes

01:14:06.180 --> 01:14:08.260
room or foot hold

01:14:08.260 --> 01:14:10.380
for the devil. Don't give him

01:14:10.380 --> 01:14:12.440
that opportunity. So unresolved

01:14:12.440 --> 01:14:14.400
anger is

01:14:14.400 --> 01:14:16.540
a possible foot hold for the devil.

01:14:16.540 --> 01:14:18.420
Now in the NIV it says this way.

01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:19.680
In your anger do not sin.

01:14:20.300 --> 01:14:22.700
Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry

01:14:23.620 --> 01:14:24.020
and

01:14:24.740 --> 01:14:26.800
do not give the devil a foot hold.

01:14:27.260 --> 01:14:28.440
So the way it's worded there

01:14:28.440 --> 01:14:30.440
it's like well anger could give the devil

01:14:30.440 --> 01:14:32.180
a foot hold but then and

01:14:32.180 --> 01:14:34.080
do not give the devil a foot hold.

01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:36.840
Well there could be other things that give the devil a foot hold

01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:37.500
which we know.

01:14:38.500 --> 01:14:40.520
King James is kind of the same thing.

01:14:41.020 --> 01:14:42.680
Neither give place to the devil.

01:14:42.860 --> 01:14:44.520
So don't let the sun go down

01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:45.900
you got to resolve your anger.

01:14:47.100 --> 01:14:47.500
Neither

01:14:48.340 --> 01:14:49.580
give place to the devil.

01:14:50.280 --> 01:14:52.280
Again it could be your anger that's giving

01:14:52.280 --> 01:14:54.180
place to the devil or it could be

01:14:54.180 --> 01:14:55.940
something else that's giving

01:14:55.940 --> 01:14:58.180
place to the devil but just don't

01:14:58.180 --> 01:14:59.220
give place to the devil.

01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:02.000
So we've talked about the first one a lot.

01:15:02.120 --> 01:15:03.600
We're going to talk about this one here tonight.

01:15:04.220 --> 01:15:06.440
Most of the translations bear out the same thought.

01:15:06.580 --> 01:15:08.300
We are able to give the devil access

01:15:08.300 --> 01:15:10.720
to and place in our lives there in verse 27.

01:15:11.320 --> 01:15:12.420
And the one way we do it

01:15:12.420 --> 01:15:14.140
is verse 26, unresolved anger.

01:15:14.420 --> 01:15:15.080
Page number two.

01:15:15.820 --> 01:15:18.040
We've looked at the first principle that deals with us

01:15:18.040 --> 01:15:20.460
being able to give the devil

01:15:20.460 --> 01:15:22.460
or the kingdom of darkness access to our life.

01:15:22.860 --> 01:15:24.900
It's personal sin or generational sin.

01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:26.760
And we've also looked

01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:28.760
at how agreement can open up

01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:30.540
to the demonic realm and the transference

01:15:30.540 --> 01:15:32.320
of spirits. Those are the three basic

01:15:32.320 --> 01:15:34.380
areas where we're involved

01:15:34.380 --> 01:15:35.780
and we can deal with this.

01:15:36.460 --> 01:15:38.180
But here now Paul is adding

01:15:38.180 --> 01:15:40.020
one more, unresolved anger.

01:15:41.020 --> 01:15:42.960
So unresolved anger is talking

01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:44.520
about anger that has been handled

01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:46.280
incorrectly. There's a right way

01:15:46.280 --> 01:15:47.740
and a wrong way to handle anger.

01:15:48.400 --> 01:15:50.540
Remember, anger in itself

01:15:50.540 --> 01:15:51.580
is not sin.

01:15:52.500 --> 01:15:54.220
When I was growing up I was taught

01:15:54.860 --> 01:15:56.260
do not be angry.

01:15:56.460 --> 01:15:57.080
Stop sinning.

01:15:57.940 --> 01:15:59.440
That's not scriptural.

01:16:00.040 --> 01:16:02.220
Scripture says in your anger

01:16:03.240 --> 01:16:04.400
do not sin.

01:16:05.240 --> 01:16:06.400
If anger

01:16:06.400 --> 01:16:08.760
is sin, God is a sinner.

01:16:11.580 --> 01:16:12.880
Because God gets angry.

01:16:16.020 --> 01:16:17.480
It's the mishandling

01:16:17.480 --> 01:16:19.220
of anger that makes it sin.

01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:21.000
So let's get a running start

01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:22.960
on this because you'll see it better

01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:24.360
if we read a number of scriptures.

01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:25.820
We're going to start at verse 14.

01:16:27.780 --> 01:16:29.220
Then we will no longer

01:16:29.220 --> 01:16:30.920
be infants tossed back and forth

01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:33.080
by the waves and blown here and there

01:16:33.080 --> 01:16:34.860
by every wind of teaching

01:16:34.860 --> 01:16:36.360
and by the cunning and craftiness

01:16:36.360 --> 01:16:38.120
of men and their deceitful scheming.

01:16:38.240 --> 01:16:40.200
Now I didn't look it up, but my memory says

01:16:40.200 --> 01:16:42.100
he just got done talking about the

01:16:42.100 --> 01:16:43.680
five-fold anointing and what

01:16:44.200 --> 01:16:45.340
they're supposed to produce.

01:16:46.100 --> 01:16:47.560
They're supposed to mature us.

01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:49.400
So then we will no longer be infants

01:16:49.400 --> 01:16:50.780
and goes on.

01:16:53.180 --> 01:16:54.220
Instead, speaking

01:16:54.220 --> 01:16:55.800
the truth and love. So in verse 14

01:16:55.800 --> 01:16:56.600
let me back up.

01:16:57.380 --> 01:16:59.140
Being moved around by all kinds of different

01:16:59.140 --> 01:17:01.200
kinds of teaching and men

01:17:01.780 --> 01:17:03.800
and their cunning, getting a hold

01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:05.340
of you and etc.

01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:08.300
Not God.

01:17:08.300 --> 01:17:09.240
Verse 15.

01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:11.860
Instead, speaking the truth and love

01:17:12.580 --> 01:17:14.160
we will in all things

01:17:14.160 --> 01:17:15.980
grow up into him who is the head.

01:17:16.260 --> 01:17:17.620
That is Christ. So now let me make

01:17:17.620 --> 01:17:19.940
a comment to you that was made to me

01:17:19.940 --> 01:17:21.400
just in the last couple of weeks.

01:17:22.500 --> 01:17:24.440
Someone said, if we as Christians

01:17:24.440 --> 01:17:26.400
would be honest with what we see

01:17:26.400 --> 01:17:28.300
in other Christians' lives

01:17:28.300 --> 01:17:29.860
I think we could help them a lot.

01:17:31.220 --> 01:17:32.480
Yeah, and you'd have no friends.

01:17:34.940 --> 01:17:35.380
Because

01:17:35.380 --> 01:17:36.800
in the American culture

01:17:37.480 --> 01:17:39.000
I don't tell you

01:17:39.720 --> 01:17:41.220
what I see as a weakness

01:17:41.220 --> 01:17:41.940
in you.

01:17:44.240 --> 01:17:44.720
Right?

01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:47.940
When's the last time

01:17:47.940 --> 01:17:49.920
you talked to someone and said

01:17:50.740 --> 01:17:51.400
you know

01:17:51.400 --> 01:17:53.440
there's an area in you that needs some help

01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:55.200
can we talk about it?

01:17:55.400 --> 01:17:56.060
Are you open to that?

01:17:56.960 --> 01:17:58.460
And that turned out good.

01:18:03.240 --> 01:18:04.200
But the answer

01:18:05.340 --> 01:18:06.900
to a lot of things

01:18:07.660 --> 01:18:08.620
is having

01:18:08.620 --> 01:18:10.540
the kind of people

01:18:10.540 --> 01:18:12.740
that you actually can speak the truth

01:18:12.740 --> 01:18:14.140
to in love.

01:18:14.580 --> 01:18:16.080
It causes growth

01:18:16.460 --> 01:18:18.000
and maturity, verse 15.

01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:20.520
Number 16, from him the whole body

01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:22.340
joined and held together by every supporting

01:18:22.340 --> 01:18:24.160
lingamate grows and builds itself

01:18:24.160 --> 01:18:26.540
up in love. Every piece, every part

01:18:26.540 --> 01:18:28.460
does its work and we

01:18:28.460 --> 01:18:29.560
all grow and mature.

01:18:30.180 --> 01:18:32.100
And that is in the context of

01:18:32.100 --> 01:18:33.420
speaking the truth in love.

01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:36.620
I've heard this phrase used many

01:18:36.620 --> 01:18:38.620
times. You don't have

01:18:38.620 --> 01:18:40.560
the kind of relationship with me to

01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:42.100
speak that into my life.

01:18:43.440 --> 01:18:45.200
Could you show me a scripture on

01:18:45.200 --> 01:18:45.380
that?

01:18:50.660 --> 01:18:52.380
There's certain truth I can't

01:18:52.380 --> 01:18:53.960
say to you unless I have a relationship

01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:56.300
with you. Is there any scripture on that?

01:18:57.140 --> 01:18:58.380
I have never found

01:18:58.380 --> 01:19:00.220
any. But it's almost

01:19:00.220 --> 01:19:02.320
like a cardinal rule we live by

01:19:02.320 --> 01:19:03.200
in the church in America.

01:19:04.320 --> 01:19:06.260
How dare they? They don't even know me. And they

01:19:06.260 --> 01:19:08.160
said this, see what you just said is

01:19:08.160 --> 01:19:09.340
you don't have the kind of relationship

01:19:09.340 --> 01:19:11.040
with me to say the truth to me.

01:19:11.620 --> 01:19:13.460
Well, sometimes the people who are viewing you

01:19:13.460 --> 01:19:15.360
from afar can see more clearly than

01:19:15.360 --> 01:19:16.520
the people who are close to you.

01:19:18.260 --> 01:19:18.540
Well.

01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:21.780
So, verse 17.

01:19:22.480 --> 01:19:24.140
So I tell you this and assist on

01:19:24.140 --> 01:19:25.960
it in the Lord that you must no longer

01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:27.840
live as the Gentiles do in the futility

01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:28.480
of their thinking.

01:19:30.740 --> 01:19:31.800
Okay, so

01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:32.880
our thinking has to change.

01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:35.480
We can't be tossed around by every

01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:37.600
doctrine and cunningness

01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:39.420
and craftiness of men. Okay, that must

01:19:39.420 --> 01:19:40.240
be a Gentile thing.

01:19:41.380 --> 01:19:43.280
That has been drug in the church. I'll give you

01:19:43.280 --> 01:19:43.800
one example.

01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:47.120
There are numerous

01:19:47.120 --> 01:19:49.120
ministers that I could ask you

01:19:49.120 --> 01:19:50.720
what is their spiritual gifts?

01:19:51.700 --> 01:19:52.820
What is their spiritual gifting?

01:19:54.420 --> 01:19:55.680
Of the nine gifts of the

01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:55.980
spirit.

01:19:57.520 --> 01:19:59.060
Of the gifts in Romans

01:19:59.060 --> 01:20:01.300
12. What is their spirit? Not their

01:20:01.300 --> 01:20:03.080
call. Their call is Ephesians 4.

01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:05.120
What is their gifting?

01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:08.240
Do they give tongues interpretation?

01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:10.800
Do they give prophecy? Do they work

01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:12.060
in words of knowledge? Do they have

01:20:12.060 --> 01:20:13.680
discerning of spirit? Do they work miracles?

01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:15.620
What is their gifting?

01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:18.920
You wouldn't believe how many Christians

01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:20.680
go to churches where they don't know

01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:22.240
what their pastor's gifting is.

01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:24.360
I just like him

01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:26.720
or her. I just like them.

01:20:26.780 --> 01:20:28.800
They're such nice people. What's their gifting?

01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:30.840
What do they operate

01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:31.960
in spiritually?

01:20:32.940 --> 01:20:34.580
I don't know. I've never really seen them do

01:20:34.580 --> 01:20:36.360
much, but I like them.

01:20:38.580 --> 01:20:40.840
You must no longer live as the

01:20:40.840 --> 01:20:42.940
Gentiles do in the futility

01:20:42.940 --> 01:20:43.900
of their thinking.

01:20:45.360 --> 01:20:47.220
I just like the Kardashians.

01:20:48.580 --> 01:20:50.800
Why? I don't know.

01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:52.620
I just like them.

01:20:53.400 --> 01:20:55.040
I just like President Biden.

01:20:56.340 --> 01:20:56.900
Why?

01:20:57.780 --> 01:20:59.160
Are you looking at his track record

01:20:59.160 --> 01:21:01.080
at all? I don't know. That makes much

01:21:01.080 --> 01:21:02.760
difference. I don't know. I just kind of like the guy.

01:21:03.260 --> 01:21:04.480
That's Gentile thinking.

01:21:05.180 --> 01:21:06.840
And the world thrives

01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:08.540
on popularity.

01:21:10.300 --> 01:21:11.160
And if you can

01:21:11.160 --> 01:21:12.660
offer a group of people something,

01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:14.980
that really means nothing. But you get

01:21:14.980 --> 01:21:17.000
enough of them to like it, you become

01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:17.480
popular.

01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:19.820
Gentile thinking.

01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:22.340
They are darkened in their understanding

01:21:22.340 --> 01:21:24.240
and separated from the life of God because

01:21:24.240 --> 01:21:26.460
of the ignorance that is in them

01:21:26.460 --> 01:21:28.800
due to the hardening of their hearts.

01:21:29.080 --> 01:21:30.520
They are not seeing this

01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:32.780
through their heart, the spiritual

01:21:32.780 --> 01:21:33.460
perspective.

01:21:33.980 --> 01:21:35.560
They are seeing this through their mind.

01:21:37.100 --> 01:21:38.540
Christians aren't supposed to

01:21:38.540 --> 01:21:40.100
view life through our mind.

01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:42.560
We are supposed to view it through our heart

01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:44.180
and what the Holy Spirit is showing us.

01:21:44.940 --> 01:21:45.540
Verse 19,

01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:47.220
Having lost all sensitivity,

01:21:47.700 --> 01:21:49.680
they have given themselves over to

01:21:50.280 --> 01:21:52.020
sensuality so as to indulge in

01:21:52.020 --> 01:21:53.760
every kind of impurity

01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:56.260
with a continual lust for more.

01:21:56.480 --> 01:21:57.760
I gave you an example earlier.

01:21:58.580 --> 01:21:59.980
Young people raise in the church,

01:22:01.240 --> 01:22:02.020
move in

01:22:02.020 --> 01:22:04.120
with somebody, live with them for 2, 3, 4 years

01:22:04.120 --> 01:22:05.200
before they get married.

01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:08.280
Why would they do that?

01:22:09.420 --> 01:22:10.720
It just told us

01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:12.240
they have lost

01:22:12.240 --> 01:22:13.980
all sensitivity

01:22:13.980 --> 01:22:16.060
to what? Their heart.

01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:17.980
They are thinking like the Gentiles

01:22:18.420 --> 01:22:19.860
think through a darkened

01:22:20.440 --> 01:22:21.040
mind.

01:22:21.040 --> 01:22:23.960
And as a result, they give themselves

01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:25.280
over to sensuality.

01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:27.700
Verse 20,

01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:29.900
You, however, did not come

01:22:29.900 --> 01:22:30.980
to know Christ that way.

01:22:32.020 --> 01:22:33.200
So we are supposed to be different.

01:22:33.900 --> 01:22:35.660
Surely you heard of Him and were taught

01:22:35.660 --> 01:22:37.840
in Him in accordance with the truth that is in Jesus.

01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:39.980
You were taught with regard

01:22:39.980 --> 01:22:41.580
to your former way of life

01:22:41.580 --> 01:22:43.460
that was before

01:22:43.460 --> 01:22:44.680
you got saved.

01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:47.460
You were taught to put off

01:22:47.460 --> 01:22:49.140
your old self which is being

01:22:49.140 --> 01:22:51.160
corrupted by its deceitful

01:22:51.160 --> 01:22:51.820
desires.

01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:54.920
So if we are living in a realm

01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:56.980
of something that Scripture calls sin

01:22:56.980 --> 01:22:59.160
like the unsaved

01:22:59.160 --> 01:23:00.940
live, we are wrong.

01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:04.420
We are supposed to have put that off.

01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:08.600
That is in the former life.

01:23:09.500 --> 01:23:11.100
You are a new creation in Christ now.

01:23:11.360 --> 01:23:12.120
Get rid of that junk

01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:15.080
and be made new in the attitude of your

01:23:15.080 --> 01:23:17.120
minds to put on the new

01:23:17.120 --> 01:23:19.740
self created to be like God

01:23:19.740 --> 01:23:21.160
and true righteousness and holiness

01:23:21.160 --> 01:23:23.340
and we know that is a sanctification process.

01:23:23.500 --> 01:23:24.760
It doesn't happen overnight. It takes a lifetime.

01:23:25.080 --> 01:23:26.760
But we are supposed to be headed towards it.

01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:29.120
Now we are to the two verses

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and it starts with this word.

01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:32.200
Therefore

01:23:33.500 --> 01:23:35.160
we had to know what

01:23:35.160 --> 01:23:36.600
that word is there for.

01:23:38.160 --> 01:23:39.200
So we needed to

01:23:39.200 --> 01:23:41.060
get a running start because it plays into

01:23:41.060 --> 01:23:42.080
what he is about to say.

01:23:43.400 --> 01:23:43.880
Therefore

01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:46.380
each of you must

01:23:46.380 --> 01:23:47.900
put off falsehood

01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:49.940
and speak

01:23:49.940 --> 01:23:51.100
truthfully

01:23:51.620 --> 01:23:52.560
to his neighbor

01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:55.500
for we are all

01:23:55.500 --> 01:23:57.920
members of one body.

01:23:58.180 --> 01:23:59.820
That goes back to what he was

01:23:59.820 --> 01:24:01.680
saying back here in

01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:02.740
verse 15.

01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:05.580
Speak the truth in love.

01:24:05.780 --> 01:24:07.040
We are all part of the same body.

01:24:07.180 --> 01:24:09.500
Verse 16, we build the body up.

01:24:09.620 --> 01:24:11.700
It builds itself up as each part

01:24:11.700 --> 01:24:12.440
does its work

01:24:13.780 --> 01:24:14.620
and then he

01:24:15.300 --> 01:24:17.680
listed a bunch of things we shouldn't be involved in.

01:24:18.120 --> 01:24:19.700
So now listen to this real close.

01:24:21.280 --> 01:24:21.720
Therefore

01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:24.060
because of all these things we shouldn't be involved in

01:24:24.060 --> 01:24:26.140
that we should have put off when we became a Christian

01:24:26.140 --> 01:24:27.680
or at least be working on it.

01:24:29.400 --> 01:24:30.200
Each of you

01:24:30.200 --> 01:24:31.800
must put off falsehood

01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:33.820
and speak truthfully

01:24:33.820 --> 01:24:34.580
to his neighbor.

01:24:36.460 --> 01:24:37.420
Do you think

01:24:38.200 --> 01:24:39.920
living with my boyfriend is wrong?

01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:42.220
No, that's fine.

01:24:42.360 --> 01:24:43.220
You're under grace.

01:24:43.440 --> 01:24:44.700
It won't make any difference.

01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:47.760
Put off falsehood

01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:49.340
and speak

01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:50.640
truthfully.

01:24:52.240 --> 01:24:54.200
Verse 15, speak the truth

01:24:54.200 --> 01:24:54.840
in love.

01:24:58.010 --> 01:24:59.550
For we are all

01:24:59.550 --> 01:25:01.110
members of one body.

01:25:01.570 --> 01:25:03.570
What they do if they come

01:25:03.570 --> 01:25:05.310
to this church will affect

01:25:05.310 --> 01:25:07.470
the corporate group.

01:25:08.550 --> 01:25:09.810
So we have to

01:25:09.810 --> 01:25:11.830
be truthful with each other and quit lying

01:25:11.830 --> 01:25:12.570
to each other.

01:25:17.320 --> 01:25:18.900
Then he makes the statement.

01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:21.120
Now this is funny to me.

01:25:22.100 --> 01:25:23.380
In your anger do not sin.

01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:26.440
Who do you think got angry right there?

01:25:29.340 --> 01:25:30.540
Just stop thinking about it.

01:25:31.320 --> 01:25:32.300
Let's run a scenario.

01:25:35.040 --> 01:25:37.260
Let's use the one we just had so enough to make up a new one.

01:25:37.940 --> 01:25:39.220
Somebody's living with their boyfriend.

01:25:40.420 --> 01:25:40.860
And

01:25:43.120 --> 01:25:43.720
we don't

01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:44.960
do anything without the leading

01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:46.840
of the spirit. You got to hear from God first

01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:48.920
because he knows the timing. He knows everything

01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:50.940
that's best. But at some point

01:25:51.340 --> 01:25:52.680
you just bring it up and say,

01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:54.820
I'd love to talk to you about the relationship

01:25:54.820 --> 01:25:56.240
you're in at some point because

01:25:57.600 --> 01:25:57.960
I

01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:00.680
don't know what to do with it.

01:26:00.780 --> 01:26:02.240
So you get together with them over coffee

01:26:02.240 --> 01:26:03.760
and by the time you're done

01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:06.520
they know you think

01:26:07.380 --> 01:26:08.780
they're in sin for living

01:26:08.780 --> 01:26:10.680
with their boyfriend before they're married.

01:26:12.580 --> 01:26:14.780
Of the two of you, who do you think is going to get angry?

01:26:20.500 --> 01:26:22.120
In your anger, don't sin.

01:26:22.740 --> 01:26:24.140
You're going to take some people off.

01:26:26.100 --> 01:26:28.520
But their response as being a Christian

01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:30.720
is don't sin. Do not let the son

01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:32.120
go down while you're still angry

01:26:32.120 --> 01:26:34.320
because if you do, you're going to give

01:26:34.320 --> 01:26:36.100
the devil a foothold.

01:26:39.500 --> 01:26:40.740
That's almost funny.

01:26:42.040 --> 01:26:42.560
It's like

01:26:43.240 --> 01:26:44.900
if you put it in context

01:26:45.980 --> 01:26:46.980
he's talking

01:26:46.980 --> 01:26:49.480
about speaking truthfully with each other

01:26:49.480 --> 01:26:51.540
trying to build the body up

01:26:51.540 --> 01:26:53.020
trying to build them up

01:26:53.020 --> 01:26:55.140
trying to be for everybody's benefit

01:26:55.140 --> 01:26:57.560
of course under the leadership of the Holy Spirit

01:26:57.560 --> 01:26:59.940
using some empathy, using some wisdom

01:26:59.940 --> 01:27:01.560
we're trying to help everybody

01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:03.120
but somebody

01:27:03.120 --> 01:27:05.000
doesn't want to hear the truth

01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:06.020
and they get angry.

01:27:08.780 --> 01:27:10.320
So there is the principle

01:27:10.320 --> 01:27:12.600
now that can apply to any area in life

01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:13.860
there's how he's applying it

01:27:13.860 --> 01:27:15.400
that can apply any area in life

01:27:15.400 --> 01:27:17.060
you're at work and the boss does something

01:27:17.060 --> 01:27:19.140
and said you were going to get a raise

01:27:19.140 --> 01:27:20.120
and then you don't get a raise

01:27:20.120 --> 01:27:20.980
so you go home angry

01:27:21.860 --> 01:27:23.080
saying principle applies

01:27:23.740 --> 01:27:25.220
in your anger do not sin

01:27:25.220 --> 01:27:28.040
do not give the devil a foothold

01:27:29.180 --> 01:27:30.820
so we can skip that

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under C because we just talked about it

01:27:32.740 --> 01:27:34.260
jump over to page number four

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There is a number of things that happen when anger is not handled correctly. It destroys intimacy, optimism, trust, hope.

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The thing I want you to pick up, there is number three. When we go to sleep with anger, it opens the door to the devil.

01:27:48.920 --> 01:28:07.440
Verse 22b is, he's a deceiver. Let me go back and see that. We're being corrupted by the old self deceitful desires.

01:28:08.420 --> 01:28:12.100
So we know he's going to work in deception with us.

01:28:12.100 --> 01:28:23.520
Verse 27 uses the word devil. That word in the Greek is Diablos. The definitions of that are false accuser, slanderer, and traducer.

01:28:24.180 --> 01:28:30.080
That's the definitions to Diablos. You're giving place to Diablos.

01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:37.620
When we don't handle anger correctly, the thoughts that begin running through our minds about the person or situation are not from God.

01:28:38.340 --> 01:28:43.740
So let's say you're angry with somebody and you've been sitting on this for a few days, few weeks, few years.

01:28:45.040 --> 01:28:55.060
I can guarantee you you have demons. Because you've given place to Diablos by not handling your anger correctly.

01:28:55.520 --> 01:29:01.340
You had 24 hours to process through this. That doesn't mean you have to settle it with them.

01:29:02.380 --> 01:29:10.160
That sometimes can take weeks and months. But you personally have to process through this. Forgive them.

01:29:10.540 --> 01:29:17.620
Come to a place where God, I turned that over to you. I'm going to go on. And however you want to handle it, that's fine.

01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:21.560
If you want me to get involved and work with this, that's fine. I'll do the best I can.

01:29:21.980 --> 01:29:27.980
But I am not going to carry anger towards that person. You have 24 hours to deal with that.

01:29:27.980 --> 01:29:36.120
Or you will pick up a demon. Specifically Diablos is the one mentioned here. The deceiver.

01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:41.400
So what would the deceiver do if you have unresolved anger for a week?

01:29:42.220 --> 01:29:46.920
He's going to deceive you because he moved into your temple, and I'll show you that here in a second.

01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:53.280
He moved into your temple to deceive you. He's going to give you all kinds of thoughts.

01:29:53.280 --> 01:29:59.780
Number five. He's going to lie to you about that person and that family and those people and that church.

01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:07.380
He's going to have all kinds of accusations run through your mind about them. Things that slander the person's character and reputation.

01:30:09.160 --> 01:30:13.500
He'll begin going around and around. These things begin going around and around in our thinking.

01:30:14.080 --> 01:30:22.180
This is Diablos at work to deceive us by falsely accusing and slandering the person we're angry with.

01:30:22.180 --> 01:30:29.060
Anytime we sit on unresolved anger, just be honest with yourself now. Anytime you sit on unresolved anger,

01:30:29.620 --> 01:30:37.180
you get negative feelings and thoughts towards the one you're angry with. That's Diablos.

01:30:41.510 --> 01:30:50.210
He's deceiving you into thinking and feeling about them, believing things about them that are absolutely untrue.

01:30:50.970 --> 01:30:55.350
But boy, they're true to you because they're brewing in that ground of anger.

01:30:55.970 --> 01:31:00.530
The result is we begin to become a traducer. There's the third word in the definition,

01:31:00.850 --> 01:31:06.890
which means we start shaming and blaming the person for the things we're angry about.

01:31:07.930 --> 01:31:17.410
So now you know that you know you've got a demon problem when not only are you thinking and feeling badly about them,

01:31:17.410 --> 01:31:25.410
now you start blaming them for what happened. It's their fault this took place.

01:31:25.610 --> 01:31:28.590
If they wouldn't have, I wouldn't be angry.

01:31:29.830 --> 01:31:39.370
Oh man, you just beacon on your forehead. I got a demon. I got a demon. He's deceiving me.

01:31:40.970 --> 01:31:43.390
He's just openly speaking to you.

01:31:47.670 --> 01:31:49.910
He's caused us to believe the lies, okay?

01:31:50.230 --> 01:31:56.930
So when anger isn't handled correctly, we literally create a place for Diablos or demons to live in our physical body or our temple.

01:31:57.330 --> 01:32:02.610
So we can do it through giving a place to them, through our own sin or generational sin,

01:32:02.810 --> 01:32:04.690
or we can do it through unresolved anger.

01:32:04.690 --> 01:32:08.790
I call it live-holes because that goes back to that deliverance session.

01:32:11.970 --> 01:32:14.470
That's what they called it and that's a fond memory to me.

01:32:14.710 --> 01:32:16.570
So that's what I call it, live-hole.

01:32:17.710 --> 01:32:19.770
The Greek definition for the word place.

01:32:20.130 --> 01:32:23.890
Now remember what the Spirit said and in this one they were actually being accurate.

01:32:24.430 --> 01:32:32.050
They said there's a place in the person's temple that is like a hole we can move into and we can live there.

01:32:32.910 --> 01:32:35.630
And then whatever they are, of course, that's going to start affecting you.

01:32:35.970 --> 01:32:39.590
Now look at the definition of the word place.

01:32:40.010 --> 01:32:43.030
Do not give place to the devil.

01:32:44.210 --> 01:32:49.710
From strong's concordance it says a spot or a space that is limited by occupancy.

01:32:51.070 --> 01:32:53.390
Wow, you could stop right there and that just described it.

01:32:57.010 --> 01:32:59.850
Hey, location, must be a location.

01:33:00.850 --> 01:33:02.790
Cross that off, we'll fix that for the book.

01:33:02.790 --> 01:33:06.050
A location as a position, home or tract.

01:33:06.290 --> 01:33:08.450
So at some place they come in and take up residence.

01:33:09.270 --> 01:33:12.150
It's a condition the person is in or an opportunity.

01:33:12.870 --> 01:33:15.250
The place is a condition of the person.

01:33:15.490 --> 01:33:17.310
It will give an opportunity to a demon.

01:33:17.870 --> 01:33:19.810
From Therese lexicon it says this.

01:33:20.350 --> 01:33:24.990
A place or any portion of space marked off as it...

01:33:26.470 --> 01:33:28.830
as it work off double check, that doesn't make sense.

01:33:28.830 --> 01:33:30.690
From surrounding space.

01:33:31.690 --> 01:33:37.150
An inhabited place as a city, village or district.

01:33:38.550 --> 01:33:41.250
Remember this is a live hold, this is in the person's temple.

01:33:42.490 --> 01:33:46.790
A place or a spot when one can settle, abide or dwell.

01:33:48.070 --> 01:33:53.150
The place which a person or thing occupies or has right to, not ride to.

01:33:53.790 --> 01:33:57.110
Hate it when my autocorrect does that stuff.

01:33:57.110 --> 01:34:01.590
The conditioner station held by one in any company or assembly.

01:34:02.910 --> 01:34:05.250
Opportunity power, occasion for acting.

01:34:06.310 --> 01:34:12.270
So literally the word place is describing a spot in the person

01:34:12.270 --> 01:34:16.990
that is open for occupancy to the demonic realm.

01:34:17.970 --> 01:34:20.490
A live hold. We can do that two ways.

01:34:20.630 --> 01:34:24.970
Personal, willful sin, generational, I'll just put those together.

01:34:24.970 --> 01:34:28.050
And not resolving our anger correctly.

01:34:28.630 --> 01:34:31.730
Then it goes through some things that I don't think we have to go over.

01:34:31.870 --> 01:34:33.930
I think they're pretty much self-explanatory.

01:34:34.070 --> 01:34:35.970
It goes back to the scripture and reference it.

01:34:36.090 --> 01:34:38.730
We must to get free of Diabolos. We have to see our anger.

01:34:38.870 --> 01:34:40.390
We have to own it. We have to admit it.

01:34:40.630 --> 01:34:43.650
We have to change some things to get free of him.

01:34:43.690 --> 01:34:46.510
And it gives the things in that section of scripture.

01:34:47.910 --> 01:34:49.170
What we have to deal with.

01:34:49.390 --> 01:34:51.630
Page six, just so we're on the same page with anger.

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Our definition for anger is anger comes from wanting something to stop,

01:34:56.190 --> 01:34:56.910
but it doesn't.

01:35:00.310 --> 01:35:05.890
I got that definition probably 35 years ago.

01:35:06.690 --> 01:35:08.870
Because I couldn't figure out what anger was.

01:35:08.990 --> 01:35:12.230
Because all the things that described it and defined it

01:35:12.230 --> 01:35:13.370
didn't make sense to me.

01:35:13.730 --> 01:35:16.130
Well, then why can God do that and I can't?

01:35:16.310 --> 01:35:17.330
And you know, on and on and on.

01:35:17.930 --> 01:35:21.750
So I went and I studied every scriptural reference

01:35:21.750 --> 01:35:26.350
where God was angry, where it says God was angry.

01:35:26.850 --> 01:35:31.530
And I started seeing a pattern, especially in the Old Testament.

01:35:32.050 --> 01:35:35.150
God became angry with the children of Israel

01:35:35.150 --> 01:35:38.770
when he wanted something to stop and they wouldn't stop it.

01:35:39.570 --> 01:35:40.870
Then he'd get angry.

01:35:42.090 --> 01:35:44.630
So there is my layman's definition of anger.

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Something needs to stop.

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It's that flare inside of us that says this needs to stop.

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And it's not stopping. We get angry.

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And anger comes from unmet expectations,

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which is kind of the other side of the same coin.

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One coin side of the coin is something needs to stop.

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The other side of the coin is...

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Okay, honey.

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When I went to work this morning,

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the kitchen floor was clean.

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Now there's soup all over it and it's even dried on in spots.

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Oh yeah, that happened right after you left.

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And I got busy on the phone and then I had to go out shopping.

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I never got around to cleaning it up.

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That would make me angry.

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Do you know why?

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I wanted to stop, obviously.

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But my expectation would be

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this house cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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And we're going to treat it like this.

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We're going to ruin it.

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I get angry. I want this to stop.

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Okay, there's an example.

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Anger is the type of enemy that in yourself,

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you got to hunt and flush them out.

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It likes to hide.

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It talks about getting rid of Diablos

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and God becoming angry.

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And there's just information there that's good information.

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We're just not going to take the time to go through it.

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On page 8, I'll just mention this.

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Why is unresolved anger so deadly?

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Because it's tied to unforgiveness.

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When we're carrying anger, we have not forgiven.

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We haven't let it go.

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And we're angry about it.

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You have to set the person free.

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Release the person from this.

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And we haven't let it go.

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So unresolved anger takes us...

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it works hand in glove with unforgiveness.

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So you can read the rest of that.

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It'll be fine.

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The last page you read from the top to the bottom,

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that's the progression of that chart.

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It's resolving anger and relationships.

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Outline here is an outline of things that have to be dealt with

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to resolve unresolved anger.

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And it works its way down to the dashed line.