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Kevin mentioned to me that there was a comment put online a few weeks back, whatever, and I

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won't take the time to go through the whole thing. I'll just refer to the gist of it. The

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comment was that generational curses did not pass through the cross. So all this stuff we're

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talking about about generational curses is false because generational curses have not

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passed through the cross. Okay, so I'm going to start my answer with a question in case

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you're listening, or you do listen at some point, and I'm not meaning this out of

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disrespect. I'm meaning this out of a reality check. How many demons have you

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cast out? To where they were manifesting, cussing at you, hissing, coming at you,

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trying to physically abuse you, anything in that realm. How many have you cast

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out? Because my guess is none. And like I said, I'm not trying to be

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disrespectful. But anybody I know of who works in deliverance and has worked in at

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any length of time deals with generational curses because they're very much alive

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and well. So I challenge you to go back and rethink that. I'm going to give an

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explanation for it. Generational curses. Where do generational curses come out of?

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Well, in the Old Testament is the first time they're brought up under Moses. But

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that's where they're brought up. That's not where they started. Generational

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curses started with Adam and Eve. When Adam and Eve led in the curse, that

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curse, if you go back and read the points, every point of that original

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curse is still active on the earth, every point of it. Christian women

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still have pain and childbirth. Christian husbands still want to rule their

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wife rather than keeping her as a companion. I mean, Christian men still have

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to sweat to earn a living. Every point of that curse is still intact. Now

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when we get to Moses, he develops on it and gives a lot of details of what

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that curse looks like. With Adam and Eve, God just gave some general

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statements. Moses broke it down to huge detail in Deuteronomy 28, 29 and 30

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and other places, but huge detail. Today curses are still active. Nothing

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has changed. The cross didn't stop the curse of women having pain and

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childbirth. The cross did not stop the curse of Christian men having to

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sweat to earn their living. The cross did not stop the curse of

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weeds growing in Christians' fields. That's all part of that original

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curse in Genesis 3. To say generational curses have stopped,

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that you're wrong. You're missing it. They're as much alive today as

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they were then. The difference the cross made was this. We now have

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the right to say no to them and stop them except for one. We're

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still going to die. This physical body is going to die. That one

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won't change. It's the last enemy Paul said that will be put under

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Christ's feet. So that one we're still all going to experience.

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But everything else that's a curse in Deuteronomy 28, 29, 30,

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in the original curses that God said, well, this is what you

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opened up the world to. Here's what's coming on you now.

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Every one of them we can beat as a Christian by faith through

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grace and a knowledge of the word. Women can have babies without

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pain, but it won't automatically happen. You're going to have to

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take it by faith. And I know a few who've done it. I could

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list. I won't take the time. We don't have the time. You

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can beat a curse by faith, but if you don't go after it by

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faith, the curse will try to manifest in your life whether

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you're Christian or not, makes no difference. And my point is

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this, just go back to the original curses and read them in

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Genesis 3 and tell me how many of those have disappeared in

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not only the unsaved people of the world, but in the

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Christian people of the world. How many are... Once we get

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saved, none of those curses are relevant anymore. They all

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went away. None of them went away. They're all there. But when

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we got saved, Jesus said, and I'm handing you the keys of the

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kingdom, take it back and come out from underneath that

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curse and live above it. So, you know, and it's not a

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unique point that gets brought up. I've had that brought

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up to me many times. Generational curses passed away at the cross.

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I don't see how you can read scripture and see that. I

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don't see a big picture of scripture. The soul that sins, it

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will die. That is a curse from coming under sin. That

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still stands. That curse hasn't gone away. None of them have

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gone away. We just have been given the ability to live

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above them. So, hopefully that answers that question.

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All right. Number ten. I need to just reemphasize

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this. This isn't a question. Just need to reemphasize it.

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But if you receive deliverance, recognize you are in

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sin somewhere. That's what caused the demon to have

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the live whole. Or have access to your temple.

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You're going to have to find it and deal with it. If it

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doesn't get dealt with before you get the demon out, you

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go to the Holy Spirit afterwards and say, what did I do

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to let that in? He will show you. He'll help you.

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So, you can close that door. Number eleven.

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When you cast out demons, you send them to the abyss

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using the scripture of the man with the legion. I have

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always used Romans sixteen, twenty and Genesis three, fifteen

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and bind them and place them under the heel of

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Jesus. I've heard other people say it this way. I place

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them at Jesus' feet. And I think they're both saying

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the same thing. So, they say, I bind them and I

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place them under the heel of Jesus. Is this right?

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Okay. So, let me give you a couple of my thoughts

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and principles. I'm not God. So, take that for what it's

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worth. But let's talk about it. Romans sixteen, twenty

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was one of the two scriptures. This scripture says

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the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet

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shortly. And the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ

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will be with you. Amen. So, now listen to how

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that's worded. And the God of peace will crush

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Satan under Jesus' feet shortly. Didn't say

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Jesus' feet. Said your feet. So to cast

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them under the feet of Jesus, Jesus is going to

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hand them right back and say, I did my part. Now

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you crush them. It's under your feet

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they get crushed. Genesis three, fifteen,

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I can see here this, I could possibly apply. Let's

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see. He's talking to Eve now. And this is the curse

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and the promise of the Savior coming in that section.

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I will put enmity between you and the woman.

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And between your seed and her seed. Now he's talking

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to the devil here. You and the woman are going to

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become enemies. And your seed and her seed are

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going to become enemies. So now just as a side

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thought in case you've never thought about it. Her

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seed, capital S, was Jesus. Of course it had to come down

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through the generations and land on Jesus. Who is

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his seed? Think about it. I will put enmity between you

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and the woman between your seed. He's talking to the devil and her seed.

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He shall bruise your head. And you

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shall bruise his heel. He, the seed

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of the woman, he, Jesus, bruised the devil's head.

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Didn't kill him, didn't crush it. That's coming. That

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final, we're done with you. But he took authority

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and he got the authority back. He shall bruise your head

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and you shall bruise his heel. In other

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words Satan, you're going to be able to cause him

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some pain when he steps on you. Which he did.

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The whole crucifixion thing and going to hell

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and the whole thing. That was not a happy experience, I'm sure.

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But either way. Okay, so the thought there is

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casting the demon to the feet of Jesus

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so that Jesus would bruise the head of the

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demon. He did that in context. He did that

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when he came. That's the way I see it.

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Jesus, when he said it's finished

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everything needed for life and godliness

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and to overcome the power of the devil was provided

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presuming he rose from the dead. Which he did.

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But while he was alive on earth, the last thing, it's finished

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because I'm coming back and that will seal the whole thing.

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It was finished. So going back to the first scripture

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it's, I see it as it's up to us.

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They're under our feet.

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So my question on, I got a question to go back

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to the person who sent this in. My question to you is this

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on the casting demons to the feet of Jesus after they're cast out

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so that he deals with them. Did the Holy Spirit

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tell you to do that to demons or did you hear it from somebody?

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Because that can make a huge difference.

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If you heard it from somebody

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I talked to the person and say

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let's go deeper with this. Help me understand this.

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If the Holy Spirit told you do this with them and you're sure it was the Holy Spirit

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I'll stay out of it between you

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and God. I'm not going to get in there and say, oh no you can't do

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that. If he told you then that's how he wants you to operate in it.

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But at the same token I would go back and say I need more Scripture

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on this. And he'll be glad to provide them. It's not a problem.

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Number 12.

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This has to do with understanding the rank and authority of the enemy and the rank and the

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authority of people. So now this person is going to talk

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about something that happened in a church.

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In a previous church we were able to have authority over our house

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which was the parsonage in the yard. So this person was in the ministry

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We had authority over our house which was the parsonage in the

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yard but no authority in the church and their yard.

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So they probably were side by side because the elders said

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that they have the authority over the church.

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Is this right? And they go on and say

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the demons there would manifest even for my children right on the

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property line. As long as they stayed in the parsonage

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side everything was fine. If they got over into the church side

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there was manifestations that would take place.

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Is it right what the elders said we have authority over the church

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property? You have none. It's right depending

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upon the agreement with the agreement you had

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with the church and how they limited your authority.

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Did they limit your authority?

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And churches will do that, especially established churches

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and they do, you know, there are multiple reasons. Let's not get into

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church government. But multiple reasons. They'll limit it.

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Certain churches, the pastor can't make any decisions at all.

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He can't spend any money. He can't

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preach things that they don't approve. They limit the authority.

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So basically the elders are in charge

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and the pastor just does what they say. Well in those situations

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absolutely they can limit your authority to get rid of any spirit

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because they might like the spirit that's there without even knowing it's a spirit.

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They may like it. So they'll limit your authority to get rid of it.

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If they didn't give you that authority, I mean if they didn't take

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that authority, if you've been given full authority as a minister

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and that's one of the blessings of starting a church

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is I have the authority here.

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You don't like it, leave. Bottom line.

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Yeah, we work with the board. The board gives advice.

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The board helps make decisions. But when it comes right down to push and shove

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nobody's going to tell me what I'm going to preach on.

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I'm not going to have to ask permission when I walk into the sanctuary

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and I sense there's an evil spirit here. I don't have to have a board meeting to decide what we're going to do with it.

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I'm going to kick it out.

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And that's one of the blessings of starting a church. Now at time goes on

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this church will be handed on. That same authority has to hand

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on. And that's what makes people nervous. Well we don't know what the guy

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is going to be like when he comes in. We don't know what they're going to do.

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Yeah, but you can't make a hireling out of them. Well we hired them to be our preacher

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and to marry and to bury and give messages on Sunday. If that's all

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he is as a hireling, he won't have the authority needed to do what needs to be done.

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So yes, it can happen. Okay, going on. Same

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story. There was a time where the elders were told that this is a problem,

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the demonic thing and the church authority and so forth. And their response

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was they did not know what to do so they did nothing.

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In other words they didn't know what to do with the demon issue so they just did nothing.

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The sad part was when they spoke this

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there was once it came out and they actually took that stand

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there were unexplained deaths on their farms and crazy things were happening

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to the point that one elder even announced in front of the church

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that if he offended anyone he asked them to forgive him

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because he was trying to make the deaths must have been of cattle, things like that

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on his farm stop.

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That's intense.

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My understanding is they verbally said out loud they do not know what

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or how to remove the church demons was this

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opening up with admission

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of no power. In other words were they admitting at that point they have no power

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so the demons just started doing what they do.

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Possibly.

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To cut them some slack

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they were probably as much victims as anybody else

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because they didn't know what to do honestly

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and they were in the position of authority

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they obviously did not have the wherewithal

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to handle and when they

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kept the authority but said we're going to live with these demons

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Because we don't know what to do. It just broke loose on them. Possibly, that's my guess.

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Could have been other things. I would also say there's probably other circumstances in their

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own personal lives that helped open the door to that. But yeah, I'm pretty sure it would have all

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worked together. It goes back to what we covered in the holding of the land study. You can't

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move in with the enemy. You just can't do it. You can't compromise, move in with the enemy. And if you

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say, well, I know there's demons in the church, but we don't know what to do with them, so we're just

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going to live with them. That's going to come back and bite you. You can't do that. You can't move

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in with the enemy. So, next question. This one is a two-part. It's a question and an experience.

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So, the person shared the experience first and then answered the question. So, here's the experience.

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My husband and I were at a prayer meeting. This is one that just started in an established church.

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For a few weeks, you could notice the Holy Spirit was moving and excitement was building within the

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people. The prayers changed from grocery lists, kind of prayers, to praise and seeking God.

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One night, our daughter came with us. She was 15 at the time. Two other girls were there. One was 17.

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The other was 14. And an elder came to the prayer meeting that same night for the first time. He

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hadn't been there before, came for the first time. Backstory on the elder. This elder had a

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daughter that is now in lock-up, in a lock-up facility because of her self-harm behavior.

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My understanding was it became very evident when she was baptized in water. That's when the

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things started flaring. And the elder said they did not believe in demon warfare up to now,

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but did not know what to do. So, they did basically what they had advised us to do in

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that first thing. Put her in a psychiatric hospital. That's what they did. So, there's

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the backstory in the elder who showed up that same night. The teenagers were there.

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So, we were praying and some were standing, sitting and kneeling. The 14-year-old girl

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was standing when all of a sudden she was thrown to the ground. When her parents helped her to

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the chair, she was a bit confused and said what happened. Then I was pushed down.

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We continued praying. When my daughter, who was sitting next to me, whispered,

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mom, help me. I cannot sit up. Something is pushing me down. I placed my hand on her and

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she then begins to panic because she cannot sit up. I turned to my husband and he begins

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to say we need to pray. Something is not right. He stands up, places his hands on

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their daughter and takes authority being her dad and her being a believer. So,

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everybody saved here. People gather around her and pray and she screams get it off of me.

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Others start praying and my husband as the dad is taking charge and praying.

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While this scene is going on, the elder stands up and says, this is what happened to my daughter.

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This is the same thing. And he was not saying it from the point of authority,

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but from accepting what will come. So, in other words, this is what happened to my daughter,

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so expect your daughter to end up in the funny farm too, because that is how it happened to

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my daughter. My husband then rebuked the words from his mouth and stood and prayed.

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Thank God. And that is where sometimes you have to push back, try to do it humbly,

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but don't accept stuff that will destroy you. Thank God. He said, new. We're not going that route.

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Our daughter said it flew off of her and she was a bit shook, but she was okay or fine. People

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sitting were a bit confused. The leader of the group just started praying again,

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probably because he had no idea what to do. The other girl said later she felt

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like she was being squeezed. Okay, so there's the experience. There's the incident. Here's the question.

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Was this demon or demons trying to stop the prayer and the praise obviously? Yes.

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And probably a whole lot more. Ultimately, they are all after any spiritual life or movement

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in the church or in believers. That's ultimately what they want to squelch.

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So yeah, the prayer, praise meetings are starting to gain momentum. This is good.

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So what are they going to do? We got to shut this down. So they did that, which will undoubtedly

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cause a ripple effect and affect people and cause people to back off. Okay. Number two

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question. Why did it hit our girls? Was it because of the elder that was experiencing this?

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So my assumption is this. In this situation, all of you were victims, the elder and the girls

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and the elder's daughter who was in the psychiatric ward.

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My guess is no one hears the specific cause. Now he did not know his authority in Christ.

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He did not have the teaching he needed or the knowledge he needed. So as a result,

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he was accepting of it, which was wrong. But I doubt he caused it. Here is my questions.

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And I was going to grab a booklet and bring it in. Kevin's got some in the media room.

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I think it was in 2014, we did a teaching on the infiltration of the church. Okay.

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What I'm going to briefly stay here, that describes that much more detail in that booklet,

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if you want to just ask him for it. Number one, there's one or two things happening here is my guess.

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You either have a practicing witch or Satanist in the church and you don't know it.

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For it to, for the spirit to be that strong in a praise and worship setting to where they are,

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there's poltergeist going on. They're physically manifesting and pushing people around.

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You got something big happening here. This is not somebody ate too much chocolate cake and

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they didn't repent kind of thing. This is bigger than that. So you either have been infiltrated,

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which is one of the things they love to do in witchcraft and satanism. And that booklet

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will describe it to you. They've been doing it for decades and the churches just

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were not sharp enough to catch it. They will infiltrate and they will become,

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if at all possible, the most willing worker, the nicest person. They'll work their way up,

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get on the board, get as close to the pastor as they can. And now they've been given authority

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in the church. And now the authority they start putting out there will be their true roots.

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But at that point to grab them and say, you're the problem, they've won over most of the

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congregation. Everybody loves them. They're so wonderful. They're so willing to help. I know

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their family, this, that, and the other. If you try to root them out at that point, you're

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probably going to lose a whole bunch of people. But if you don't lose, root them out,

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you have a spiritual problem in that church, which is going to affect a whole bunch of people.

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So what happened is you waited too long. It got too close to the leadership of the church.

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It's either that or there have been horrific sins that have taken place in the church in

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the past that have not been dealt with. This happens almost annually with a laity led church.

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Laity, I mean the congregation or the board runs the church rather than a clergy led church

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where the pastor runs the church and the board supports him. Laity led as the board runs the

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church and the pastor is hired to do a job. It happens almost annually at the annual business

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meeting because you will have clicks in that group and they want things to go a certain way.

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And they will face off against this group and then that group face. And you will have all

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kinds of conflict and strife show up in the business meetings because the people decide how this is

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going. And the scripture says where you have strife you have every evil thing. Confusion and every

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evil thing. So there you go. My guess is it's one of those two. Okay, next question. Why did

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it hit the teenage girls? Now I'm going to give you an answer here that's going to be straight

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on. It's my experience. It's what I know. And I'm going to come out of John chapter 14.

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This will be in your booklet. I'll just read it to you now. John chapter 14 verses 30 and 31.

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Jesus is talking to his disciples here. And in verse 30 he says,

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I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. So that's the devil.

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And he has nothing in me. But that the world may know that I love the father,

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and as the father gave me commandment, so I do. Arise, let us go from here. And they moved on.

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A couple of points here that are really important. The ruler, the prince of this world,

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the amplified says, the ruler of the world is coming, but he has no claim on me. There's

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nothing in common with him in me. There's nothing in me that belongs to him. He has no power over me.

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That's why Jesus had to lay down his life. It was not taken from him. Because they had no ability to

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take his life. And he just told us why they had nothing in him. He was sinless. There was no demons

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in Jesus' body. He was sinless. He was pure. So as a result, and there's numerous scriptures,

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if you want them, I can give them to you, where Jesus said, I lay down my life. A couple of times,

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he said, no man takes it from me. I will obey the father and lay down my life. Okay,

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so now take that principle and tie it back into this experience.

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I'll give you the long version in a second. The short version is, why did the girls get affected

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because they have demons? There's something in them that these spirits were able to work with.

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That's the short version. The long version is, welcome to Christian life and growth.

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I mean, for us to look and go, how could they have demons? Look in the mirror, honey. Chances are

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really good. You're not squeaky clean either. We're growing in this. And every year that goes by,

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we should be cleaner than we were the year before. But remember, for us to...

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Well, let me save that for a bit. I'll come back to it. I read on,

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my husband and I were told by the elders, so this experience happened in this prayer meeting and

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different people got affected. And one was thrown, one young lady was thrown to the floor. The other

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one couldn't move, couldn't get up. After it was over, my husband and I were told by the elders,

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we no longer could attend the prayer meeting. See, now here's my, I'm going to stop. It's

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in the middle of the sentence. I'm going to stop and give an opinion. My guess is because

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dad had enough gumption to tell the elder to shut up. And in those settings, you don't tell the elder,

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knock it off. You're wrong. They get ugly over that because they're the elder. They know. Okay?

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But that's not what was told them. We no longer could attend the prayer meeting and we're told

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this was just our daughter acting for attention. As for the other girls, they have normal

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explanations for what happened to them. And we are not to say that this has a spiritual root at all.

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So they were kicked out of the prayer meeting. Okay, so now we've got strong demonic activity

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happening in this church in that prayer meeting. What do you think is going to happen to that

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prayer meeting? Two months later, the prayer meeting was shut down. Exactly. That's what

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the demons wanted. Shut it down. The response of the elders and the people, typical religious response.

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We don't know what to do, so let's make something up. Some religious thing.

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Something that is interesting that we need to realize, Jesus talks more about heaven than

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hell. I mean, more about... I got that backwards. In the New Testament, he talks more about hell

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than heaven. And he talks more about the devil than he does angels.

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It would be good for us to pay attention. So the question goes on and says, can demons just

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taunt you? My husband has also had an experience where a demon had him by the throat and said he

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was going to kill him while he was sleeping. He said, Jesus, and it was gone. And then he

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prayed most of the night through scripture, not out of fear, but out of authority. So can

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demons taunt us? Well, sure they can. It's a form of oppression. But remember this,

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if we are seeing them, it has to either be by the Holy Spirit or it's by a demon spirit,

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because humans can't see in the spirit realm. If we are hearing them, it either has to be

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by the Holy Spirit or we have a demon spirit that's giving us the ability to do that.

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If they are touching us, pushing us, grabbing us, choking is very common. People will begin

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choking in the middle night. They'll feel something on them. They're choking. They can't

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say anything. Why is this happening? Because you have a demon in you. Because I can guarantee

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you the Holy Spirit doesn't do that. There's something in you. That's why they have the

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right to you. So you have to find what that is and deal with it. Could be generational

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sin, could be personal sin, could be whatever. Holy Spirit will show you.

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You got to deal with it. So the question ends with this. I ask because I come from a very

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traditional background where any of this discussion or experience would be denied.

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In other words, we're not going to talk about this. Never happened.

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Kind of a Jedi thing. This never happened and you all just forget about it. Typical

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religious response. And I was even told when I said I am in a battle, I was told that I did

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not have my armor on. That is why the enemy can be near me.

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I don't want to offend anybody, but that's a dumb response. Paul is using a Roman soldier's

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armor and a Roman soldier to typify our war with the spirit realm. The only way

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Roman soldiers armor did them any good is when they were in hand to hand combat.

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They were not only standing next to the enemy, they were engaged with the enemy. They were going

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to die or I was going to die. To say if you have your armor on, they can't come near you

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is taking that whole picture out of context. The reason you put your armor on is when they

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attack you, you've got some protection. They're not only going to come near you,

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they're going to smack around on you and you go back after them. So it's like,

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yeah, just we're not thinking this stuff through very well.

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And my guess is, you know, my guess is the person who said that has never cast out a demon in

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their life. So there again, you're getting advice from somebody who doesn't know.

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They closed it by saying, through the Holy Spirit and scripture, I learned the power of

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Jesus and how to fight battles with truth scripture. Good for you. You didn't lay down

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give up and die. Good for you. Okay? Are we done? We want to keep going.

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If you have to leave, feel free to do that. I know some have. That's okay. Number 14,

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how do you handle it when you know a person has a demon, but they don't know they have one?

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Kind of a repeat of an earlier question. You pray for them that they realize it or

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that it manifests. Number 15, what do you do when a person with a demon starts undermining

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or attacking you? Well, it falls under the category of persecution.

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So I would respond to it according to the scriptural rules of persecution that apply.

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So study persecution, how people handled it, what God said you're supposed to do,

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what Paul said you're supposed to do, the different apostles, and apply that.

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Because the reason they're persecuting you probably has nothing to do with them.

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Remember, we don't wrestle against flesh and blood.

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Well, that person, now it's not probably not that person.

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They got a demon and they're after you, the demon's after you.

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So you're going to have to handle it like persecution. Number 16,

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what is the most difficult part of deliverance for the person receiving it?

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Overall, my opinion, it's renewing the mind once the spirit is gone.

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Getting the spirit gone is the easiest thing to do in the world.

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Renewing the mind of how that demon taught the person to think can take years.

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Example, you had a spirit of poverty, you were raised in a family of poverty,

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you grew up in poverty, you were trained in poverty, you had a demon of poverty.

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Let's kick the demon out. All your thoughts will be poverty.

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They trained you on it.

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So you're going to think poverty, you're going to still make decisions, poverty.

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The demon's gone, but your whole mind is trained in poverty.

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Now you've got to renew the mind and come out of that.

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That is the most difficult part, because even though the demon's gone,

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the person still isn't free of poverty. They're living in it.

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Their mind has to now be renewed.

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So in my mind, overall the renewing of the mind is the most difficult.

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Getting the spirit out is usually the easiest.

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Number 17, someone said what constitutes a manifestation?

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We covered that in message number 15, March 14th.

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We covered that message 15 and outlined for casting out demons.

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Excuse me, what constitutes a manifestation?

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It's there, go back and check that and you'll have it.

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Should we be demon hunting or chasing looking for demons?

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Well, what does the scripture show you?

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Specifically after the death and resurrection of Jesus.

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Was Paul demon chasing? Was James or John these people demon chasing?

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No, do you know who they were chasing?

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God, with all their hearts, soul, mind and strength.

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If a demon popped up, they just did like the old whack-a-mole game.

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I'm going after God.

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They didn't run around trying to chase a demon out from behind a bush.

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It's just I'm serving God. You get in my way, I'll whack-a-mole you want.

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If we're confronted with a manifestation, well then deal with it.

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But move on, don't go demon chasing.

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If there's a demon involved, ask the Holy Spirit to show you.

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What is this?

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And there again, hearing the voice of the Spirit is paramount.

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Number 19, what about Christians needing to get rid of demons

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before they can overcome a certain sin?

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Like we'll cast out the demon of alcohol so they're no longer an alcoholic.

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We'll cast out the demon of adultery so they no longer go to the prostitute house.

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Can casting out a demon set a person free from sin?

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The second question they tie onto that is if sin is the core problem,

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why do demons need to go to live free?

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Well, casting out demons so people can live free of sin is a yes and no answer.

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So let me try to answer it quickly.

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In James chapter 1, 12 through 15, it says

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when we are drawn into sin, we are tempted and enticed by our own desires.

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There's desires in this fallen nature that demons watch us.

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They learn what's in the family line.

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They're familiar with our family line and they see what's our weakness

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and they will come alongside and try to enhance that.

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But they will never tempt you as something you don't have a desire for.

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It's a waste of their time.

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If you don't have a desire for it, they can try to hold it out in front of you all day long and

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you're not going to go for it.

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James 1 verse number 14, each one is tempted when he is drawn away

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by his own desires and enticed.

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So casting out a demon will not get rid of the sin.

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The sin is a separate issue from the demon.

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The key to the whole thing is repentance, James 4, 7.

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Submit yourself to God.

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Does God want you going to prostitute houses?

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No. Then repent of it.

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Take a stand against it.

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Ask God to work with that desire in the flesh

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and get you cleaned up and sanctified of it.

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The thing a demon does is he drives you.

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The Spirit leads us.

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Hey, come on, follow me.

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Demons go here.

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This is where you're going.

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And it's like a driving inside of you.

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And no matter how hard you fight it, not to go there,

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it just seems like you end up there because it's like you're driven to do it.

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That's demonic.

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The Holy Spirit doesn't do that.

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So casting demons out can help get rid of the driving.

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But if you cast a demon of adultery out

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and the person never deals with their desires, their sin,

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chances are good.

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In two, three months, they're going back in.

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The core is the sin.

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Yeah, demons can have an effect.

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And I've watched some of this stuff that

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lately has come online from the renewed movement of casting out demons.

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And I'm praying, Lord, help them start emphasizing this point.

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Because, you know, whatever the person is struggling with,

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the statement is made, well, you just come and we'll cast a demon out,

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and you'll be free of that.

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Or you'll be free of the demon.

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But whatever the sin is, you're going to have to deal with that issue.

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It's still with you.

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You go to the meeting, get the demon cast out.

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The sin issue that opened the door to the demon is still there.

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You're going to take that home with you if you don't get that under the blood

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and start taking a new approach to that.

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So I'm praying that they start emphasizing that, because that is huge.

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Sometimes demons go automatically when you confess your sin.

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Other times you need to resist them, kick them out.

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They can be very persistent,

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especially if you don't know your rights and authority.

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They'll just simply hang on to wear you down, you know.

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And it's like a white knuckling thing.

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And they'll wear you down, your will.

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In fact, remember when we were giving names,

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the favorite thing they like to attack in a person is their will.

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Their want to, their desire, their fortitude.

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They'll come against that and try to wear you down.

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To where it's like, what's the use of even trying?

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It's never going to work for me anyway.

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See, they got you.

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Once you quit the fight, they got you.

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And the fight comes out of the will.

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I'm choosing with my will to stand against this.

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But they'll just wear you down.

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A big one, smoking.

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Well, we'll cast out the spirit of nicotine

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and they'll be free of smoking.

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Hope so.

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I don't know why they got into it.

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Be good to check it out.

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Maybe it was just a nasty habit

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and there's no real sin there, whatever.

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But okay, now they're in bondage to its addictions.

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So there's some kind of demon there.

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So let's get rid of the addiction.

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Let's get rid of the demon, cast it out.

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And then from there on, they're white knuckling.

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I got to hang on.

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I can't smoke.

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I really want to smoke, but they're not free.

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That's not freedom.

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The demon's gone, but you're still not free.

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You're going to have to go back in

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and repent and submit and clean some things up to get free.

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This question came in right before the session.

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I have two questions for tonight.

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Does everyone have generational curses?

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Yes.

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Generational curses go back to Adam and Eve.

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We all have our little piece of that.

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I know you've said they strongly affect some more than others.

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Can someone be unaffected by them

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if they latched on to another sibling in the family, for example?

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Yes.

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And I don't know why or how this works this way,

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but you'll have one kid in the family turn out to be an alcoholic

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and the other three don't even drink.

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But if you trace it back, every generation has an alcoholic.

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So this is the generational spirit.

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Well, why did it hit them?

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I don't know.

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Does it have to do with genetic makeup?

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Does it have to do with wounds and lies that happen to them?

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Hurts? I don't know.

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But can it happen that you got generational curses?

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They will focus on one person.

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Absolutely.

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And different curses focus on different ones in the family.

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Everybody gets something.

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Some get more.

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And I have no explanation for it other than that's my experience.

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That's what I've seen.

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Second question.

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I know we shouldn't be casting demons out of other people's kids.

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What if anything do you suggest to do if you work with kids like in a daycare?

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And one child has anger issues and you can sense and see a demon flaring up in them.

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Okay.

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Number one question I have.

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Do you have the authority of the daycare?

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Are you a worker there or do you own it?

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Because if the owner, if you don't just work there and you're not the owner,

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you got to get the authority to do that from the owner.

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Because the owner is responsible for that child, not you.

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The contract the parent signed was with the owner, not you.

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You're a worker.

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Okay.

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So they gave authority over to the owner.

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So is the owner an agreement?

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Number two is the parent in agreement.

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Don't just cast it out because you could be doing a huge disservice to the child

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because if the parents are unsaved and you cast a spirit out of a child who has anger issues,

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what's going to keep that child clean?

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So that a few months later, they don't get re-inhabited when that thing wanders back around

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and takes seven other spirits worse than itself and goes back in that child.

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You might have done a huge disservice to that child.

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So my suggestion is without agreement of the people who are the authority over the child,

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leave it alone.

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Now if you all see the issue, you all agree something needs to be done

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and they say, does anybody know how to cast out a demon?

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I do.

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Go for it.

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Without that, I wouldn't touch it.

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This came in just this evening.

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I met a lady who does ghost tours.

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I am wondering if ghosts are demons and how to get rid of them.

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Yes, ghosts are demons and how you get rid of them is in the first booklet,

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Spiritual Warfare Basics.

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It's all covered right there.

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So grab that booklet or go back to it and you'll find it.

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Also, I want to know how to protect the children and the schools.

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Okay, so now listen.

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And this person is good here.

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They've got a little grasp on this.

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Do we have authority, okay?

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That's the key.

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Do we have authority over demonic activity in our children or grandchildren's

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schools and classrooms?

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I don't know.

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Go in there and try to teach them something one day.

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See if you have the authority to do it.

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Just drop by the principal's office on the way in and say,

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I'm going to teach math class today.

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My child's a freshman and if you could just point me to that class,

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I'll teach him today.

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What do you think he's going to say?

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That's the amount of authority you have over the school and the classroom.

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Zipple.

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Let's say give it to you, which is really chances are poor.

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Here is the here's the issue.

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When you enrolled your child into school,

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you gave the authority over to the school.

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For that part of the day.

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And thanks to our governor and our current legislature,

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we have given more and more and more authority away

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when we put them in the school.

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So we can't pray to change what's happening in the school

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because we have no authority over it.

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We... let me let me enlarge this.

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Well, can we pray over city demons

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or regional demons or the demons over the United States of America?

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We're going to we're going to pull them down.

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We're pulling down strongholds.

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And they'll quote second Corinthians chapter 10,

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which has nothing to do with demons, by the way.

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But our weapons are white are mighty to the pulling down of strongholds.

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Yeah, we'll read the rest of it.

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It has nothing to do with demons, but they'll apply that to...

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So we're going to go after the demons,

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the strong men over Washington, D.C.

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Okay, go back to the basic principles.

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We're going to go back to the demons over Princeton School,

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over Cambridge School.

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Go back to the basic principles.

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Why are those demons there?

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Why are they welcome there?

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Because of sin.

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Apparently the people in authority that we've put there

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want the sin to be there.

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Therefore we don't have the authority to take it away.

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Now the school board could do a lot.

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If they were all Christians,

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got on the same page and went after it.

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But they would really rile up the community.

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Because a lot of the teachers like cat litter and...

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I mean not teachers.

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There are certain parents that like cat litter

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in the corner of the bathroom,

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in case their child identifies as a cat that day.

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Can I lose you there?

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So we have no...

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Oh yeah, that happened.

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Oh yeah, that's happening right now.

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We'll talk about it later,

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bring you up to running speed.

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So we have no authority there.

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We gave the authority the way.

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Well how do we help our children?

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You're going to have to get them out from under that authority.

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That's the only way you can fix that.

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As long as the authority is evil

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and we're under that authority,

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it's evil if we can change the leadership,

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we can change the authority.

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If we can't change the leadership,

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the only way you deal with the authority

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is come out from underneath that authority.

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That's why some people are leaving the state of Minnesota.

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Because they refuse to be under the authority

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of what the government now,

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state government, has put into place as law.

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We're not going to submit to this.

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And there's families leaving saying,

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we're not taking a chance on this.

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We're out of here.

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So, I think that answers that question.

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Mary had a couple of things she wanted me to mention.

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She said, when you're dealing with demons,

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we can't let ourselves be afraid one ditch

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or arrogant, prideful the other ditch.

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It's not about us, it's about the person.

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Always keep that in mind.

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Well, I'm going to cast this demon out.

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I'm going to, it's about the person.

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So, don't get afraid and don't get arrogant.

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Just help the person.

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Prayer and fasting is used to renew our wine skin.

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So, if we have a bad attitude,

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do some prayer and fasting.

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Change that.

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People who are into casting out demons,

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but spend no time in the scripture at all.

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That doesn't work.

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Or one other thing she brought up.

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Watching scary movies, horror movies,

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but then we're going to cast out spirits of fear.

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Or whatever.

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See, there's a price to be paid that,

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and I have a message on this,

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I won't go to it now,

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but there's a price we pay

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to enter into what Jesus paid for.

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There are things we have to deal with to walk in that.

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It's as much as I'll say on that.

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So, I'll just list the topics to you

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that are going to be in the book.

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Won't cover them tonight.

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Demonic healing, demonic tongues,

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spiritual healers,

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operations that happen.

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I don't, I haven't heard of them happening in America,

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but other parts of the world,

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where they're claiming they're doing it under God's power,

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and if someone has an appendicitis problem or whatever,

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they will, with their hands,

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spiritual healers will just reach in,

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separate the skin,

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and go in and either remove the organ,

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or massage the organ,

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do a chant over the organ,

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fix the organ, whatever,

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and take their hands back out

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and close the skin back up.

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And is spiritual healing,

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that kind of thing?

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Is that of God?

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Is that demonic?

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Where is that?

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That's a topic that will be covered.

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After spiritual warfare, deliverance,

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does the atmosphere need to be cleared?

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We'll talk about that.

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When you're doing deliverance,

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it must be about the person getting free.

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Not about us, our reputation.

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I'm kind of going off Mary's point there.

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It's not about us, about our reputation,

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about our frustration, or whatever.

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It's about the person.

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The need for prayer and fasting.

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I'm going to cough here in a second.

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We're going to talk a little bit more

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of how to recognize a demon,

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whether it's in a person,

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and the manifestation is in a person.

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We're going to talk about that a little more in the book.

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Or in general life.

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We talked a bit about how demons talk to you,

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your thoughts.

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Well, there's other ways to tell if a demon is around.

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You can feel them, their presence,

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poltergeist experiences.

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There's a number of things we'll cover under that topic.

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And we will also,

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I'm not going to take the time to do it here,

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because it's going to take too long.

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We're also going to deal with mental illnesses and deliverance.

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When someone's mentally ill,

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how do we handle them in the realm of deliverance?

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Because undoubtedly there's demons there,

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when there's mental illness or weakness.

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We'll deal with that,

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and that's not going to be covered tonight,

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because I don't want to open a can halfway

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and cause problems.

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So I'm done.

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Are there any,

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wait a second,

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there might have been one that came in

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on my phone.

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Let me check.

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Yep, I see one.

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I am getting into the word more,

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typically a chapter day,

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and I'm getting into worship more

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and spending more time with the Lord.

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Is there anything more I can do

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to amplify my listening skills

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with the Holy Spirit?

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Those things are absolutely excellent.

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The main thing you can do you're missing.

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Talk to Him, continually.

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Talk to the Holy Spirit.

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Like the Scripture calls Him our Comforter,

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our Counselor.

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The Greek word is paraclete,

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which means someone called alongside

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to comfort and counsel you.

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There is,

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speak to Him like a living entity

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who's with you 24-7,

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right there.

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Talk to Him all the time

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about everything.

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And as you do that,

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as time goes on,

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you'll start recognizing.

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He'll be talking back,

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but to begin with,

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we don't recognize it.

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You'll begin recognizing His voice.

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Jesus said,

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my sheep know my voice.

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Strangers' voice,

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they will not follow

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because they know my voice.

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Well, now on earth,

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it's the Holy Spirit who speaks to us.

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So you will begin recognizing His voice.

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To begin with,

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it can be kind of fuzzy

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because there's going to be all kinds of...

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It's like the old radios

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that you had a dial in.

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And you get two, three channels

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at the same time,

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especially after sunset.

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You know, Chicago has a 50,000-watt thing,

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and you've got the local yokel here.

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It's got a thousand-watt thing,

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and you're trying to get on the right frequency

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to hear that channel.

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That's kind of a comparison.

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To begin with,

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you're going to hear all kinds of stuff.

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But the more you talk to Him

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and interact with Him

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and ask Him to teach you

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and ask Him to help you,

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it will clear up.

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And you'll begin hearing

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a much, much clearer.

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But it's a daily.

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You just go after it

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and you do it day after day,

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month after month,

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year after year.

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And as the years go by,

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you'll be amazed at how well you get to hear.

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Okay, do we have any questions

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other than that, or are we done?

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Okay, we have couple three.

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Can I have a mic runner here?

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Thank you.

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Should be on, I think.

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I would just like clarity on the school.

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We have grandchildren in the school.

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They're also believers,

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and they pray for their school.

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And, you know, they want to be salt and light.

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Were you saying they have

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absolutely no power there

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in their prayers because

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of the authority over there?

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And then what would be the difference

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between me going into a workplace

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that's not holy and bringing

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the light of the gospel

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or the military,

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being in the military

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and bringing, you know, as a believer

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because the whole world

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is kind of underneath

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the rule of the prince

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and power of darkness.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So wouldn't they have authority

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in the schools?

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When did Christian teacher

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have authority in the school?

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Okay, I'm going to try to

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answer that best I can.

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Thank you.

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Very good question.

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We'll try to clarify.

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We are called to be salt and light.

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The church is called

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to be the Ecclesia.

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The Ecclesia, if you study that

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and if you go through

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the Covenant Partner Series,

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I think it's the first or second

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message we talk about.

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The Ecclesia in the government

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of that time

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was a group of people

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that were called out

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to rule the nation.

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It's the only place the word

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is used in connection

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with anything in scripture

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and it's applied to the church.

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If the church were doing its job,

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we would be the school board.

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We are called out to rule and reign.

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If the church were doing its job,

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we would be the county commissioners.

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It would be all Christians.

57:00.690 --> 57:01.570
We'd be in there

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or we'd have enough Christians in there

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that we can call righteousness, righteousness.

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When we don't have the authority position,

57:09.830 --> 57:11.850
we're still called to be influencers.

57:12.730 --> 57:13.150
Salt and light.

57:13.270 --> 57:14.310
That's what salt and light does it.

57:14.690 --> 57:16.670
It throws light on the subject.

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It preserves it.

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It throws flavoring to it.

57:20.190 --> 57:22.470
We still are called to be influencers.

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But if the superintendent...

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I'm coming up with a hypothetical here.

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If the superintendent in the Cambridge school

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would decide to bring in transgender cross-dressing guys

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who are acting like women

57:41.890 --> 57:45.270
and have them teach the third grade class,

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read a story to them,

57:52.730 --> 57:56.110
unless we rally the ecclesia

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and they rise up

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and have enough authority to make him change his mind,

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you can pray about that for months

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and he's still going to bring them in.

58:11.870 --> 58:13.010
It's still going to happen.

58:13.650 --> 58:15.010
Now, you can keep your children home that day,

58:15.690 --> 58:16.910
but he's still going to do it.

58:17.370 --> 58:19.910
We don't have the authority to stop

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what an ungodly person wants to do.

58:23.570 --> 58:25.290
But as the church,

58:25.510 --> 58:28.650
we are supposed to be the decision makers

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not just in this building in the world.

58:34.030 --> 58:35.470
That was God's desire.

58:35.750 --> 58:38.830
His design is that we as Christians

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would be so influential,

58:41.830 --> 58:44.850
we would turn the whole world to Christ.

58:46.590 --> 58:48.810
But we've given those authority places away

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as the church is the problem.

58:51.530 --> 58:53.690
So, we can pray for the school,

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but you're not going to pull the demon out of that school

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until those who are in authority agree with you

58:59.630 --> 59:01.110
and they help you pull them out.

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We can influence in that school.

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And I'm not saying pull all your kids out of school.

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You've got to follow the spirit on that.

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That's between you and God or your children.

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You know, if you're a grandchildren,

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it's your children's option there.

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Between them and God,

59:12.650 --> 59:13.470
they're going to have to hear the spirit.

59:13.950 --> 59:15.070
Some will pull them out.

59:15.170 --> 59:16.270
The Holy Spirit will say pull them out.

59:16.550 --> 59:18.170
Others will say, no, keep them in there.

59:19.950 --> 59:22.470
Salt and light does no good if it's not in the darkness.

59:23.590 --> 59:25.810
If it's not in a position where it can preserve.

59:26.850 --> 59:30.250
So, God will keep a certain realm of people in there

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active to influence.

59:36.010 --> 59:38.110
So, it depends upon what we're praying for.

59:38.350 --> 59:40.310
So, I'm going to try to finish my answer.

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If we're praying, Lord, help me be a light.

59:43.130 --> 59:44.750
Help me show them truth.

59:45.290 --> 59:47.710
Help our grandchildren to be able to take a stand

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for righteousness, take a stand for you,

59:50.510 --> 59:53.970
and be an influence to everybody around,

59:54.110 --> 59:55.070
including their teachers,

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including the superintendent,

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including everybody.

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Absolutely, we can pray for that.

01:00:00.190 --> 01:00:02.030
Help my children go in there

01:00:02.030 --> 01:00:04.850
and stop this cross-dresser from coming in the school

01:00:04.850 --> 01:00:05.970
next week Wednesday.

01:00:06.270 --> 01:00:07.190
You're wasting your prayer.

01:00:08.770 --> 01:00:09.730
Because they're basically,

01:00:10.010 --> 01:00:11.690
if your child goes to the teacher and says,

01:00:12.310 --> 01:00:13.010
miss me?

01:00:13.850 --> 01:00:17.550
I don't want that person to come next week Wednesday.

01:00:18.510 --> 01:00:20.210
The teacher's going to say,

01:00:21.530 --> 01:00:23.770
I can't do anything about it.

01:00:26.640 --> 01:00:30.020
So again, it's we have authority over us.

01:00:30.500 --> 01:00:32.080
We have authority over our influence,

01:00:32.260 --> 01:00:33.720
no matter where we are.

01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:36.640
The only thing that gives me authority

01:00:36.640 --> 01:00:37.760
over a congregation

01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:40.960
is their willingness to submit to my authority.

01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:43.120
Otherwise, I have none.

01:00:47.160 --> 01:00:48.400
Let's take it a step further.

01:00:48.560 --> 01:00:52.880
The only thing that gives the state authority over us

01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:55.200
is our willingness to submit to it.

01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:58.840
And that's the war that's brewing right now,

01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:00.560
not only in this state, but in this nation.

01:01:01.240 --> 01:01:02.760
Because there's people who are saying,

01:01:02.860 --> 01:01:04.600
I'm not leaving the United States,

01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:06.280
but we're not doing this.

01:01:07.180 --> 01:01:09.760
And we're having resistance rise up.

01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:11.120
And that's exactly what we need.

01:01:13.080 --> 01:01:15.100
It's what has to happen.

01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.740
So if somebody takes that out of context and says,

01:01:18.140 --> 01:01:19.220
Pastor Byrne said,

01:01:19.520 --> 01:01:22.440
we should all join the militia and fight the government.

01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:25.120
Never said any such thing.

01:01:25.700 --> 01:01:28.720
But I do have to serve God before I serve them.

01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:31.040
That's my point.

01:01:31.640 --> 01:01:32.860
Did that answer your question?

01:01:33.300 --> 01:01:34.660
Kind of, okay.

01:01:35.140 --> 01:01:36.580
We can try to finish later,

01:01:36.720 --> 01:01:39.100
whatever other details I didn't get covered.

01:01:41.120 --> 01:01:42.260
They need to pray for revival

01:01:42.260 --> 01:01:44.600
and they can influence for revival

01:01:44.600 --> 01:01:46.080
and they can get kids saved.

01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:48.580
And they can get kids healed.

01:01:48.700 --> 01:01:50.200
All kinds of things can happen.

01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:52.620
They can help their friends not make a bad decision

01:01:52.620 --> 01:01:54.260
by influencing on them.

01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.200
But the actual authority over the classroom

01:01:58.200 --> 01:01:59.240
or over the school,

01:02:00.580 --> 01:02:02.760
unless we're in the position that we should be,

01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:04.400
and that's what the Ecclesia is called to do,

01:02:04.640 --> 01:02:05.680
unless we've done that,

01:02:05.820 --> 01:02:06.840
we're not going to have much authority.

01:02:07.160 --> 01:02:08.100
They're not going to listen to me.

01:02:09.640 --> 01:02:11.440
Unless there can be, you know,

01:02:11.640 --> 01:02:12.400
numbers speak.

01:02:13.520 --> 01:02:15.780
Because these people are all hired or elected.

01:02:16.980 --> 01:02:19.020
And if they make a bad decision

01:02:19.580 --> 01:02:22.160
and 10,000 people show up at the school

01:02:22.160 --> 01:02:25.140
saying we're not doing this, chances are good.

01:02:25.740 --> 01:02:29.100
The authority of that 10,000 people will reverse.

01:02:29.820 --> 01:02:30.940
They'll change their mind.

01:02:31.600 --> 01:02:33.120
That's the only way we can stop that.

01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:35.100
Or we have to vote people in that

01:02:35.580 --> 01:02:36.600
don't make the bad decisions.

01:02:36.600 --> 01:02:38.580
All right. Next.

01:02:39.660 --> 01:02:40.500
Up there.

01:02:45.670 --> 01:02:48.490
Going back to the discussion on authority.

01:02:49.850 --> 01:02:51.030
I have an opinion,

01:02:52.090 --> 01:02:55.630
and I'm curious on your feedback on it.

01:02:56.550 --> 01:02:58.030
Does authority follow the money?

01:02:58.730 --> 01:02:59.950
If I rent an apartment,

01:03:00.250 --> 01:03:02.330
rent a hotel room, rent a car,

01:03:02.890 --> 01:03:06.050
do I have authority in that place

01:03:06.050 --> 01:03:09.490
over that thing while I am paying for it?

01:03:10.470 --> 01:03:12.430
To a degree, yes, absolutely.

01:03:13.270 --> 01:03:15.590
Because you bought, like for instance,

01:03:15.790 --> 01:03:16.370
some hotel room.

01:03:17.390 --> 01:03:19.230
There's been motel rooms we went to

01:03:19.230 --> 01:03:20.510
that we went into and it's like,

01:03:20.590 --> 01:03:21.490
I don't know what happened here

01:03:21.490 --> 01:03:22.350
in the last week or two,

01:03:22.430 --> 01:03:23.370
but this is nasty.

01:03:24.310 --> 01:03:25.910
You know, I don't know what's kind of sin.

01:03:26.050 --> 01:03:26.850
It took place in here.

01:03:27.130 --> 01:03:28.430
But those spirits are still lingering.

01:03:29.410 --> 01:03:30.950
And on the basis of

01:03:31.510 --> 01:03:34.710
we paid for that space for the night,

01:03:34.930 --> 01:03:36.830
we now have jurisdiction over it.

01:03:37.430 --> 01:03:38.310
What's happening in there?

01:03:38.430 --> 01:03:38.990
We'll kick them out.

01:03:41.050 --> 01:03:44.070
Do we have the right to redecorate by morning?

01:03:45.710 --> 01:03:47.250
Repaint, put new curtains up?

01:03:48.130 --> 01:03:49.010
Probably not.

01:03:49.150 --> 01:03:50.390
Because we didn't buy the walls,

01:03:50.510 --> 01:03:51.270
we bought the space.

01:03:53.070 --> 01:03:54.550
So authority, yes,

01:03:54.710 --> 01:03:56.490
we do have authority by purchasing

01:03:56.490 --> 01:03:57.410
to a degree.

01:03:58.510 --> 01:03:59.270
But again, it's just,

01:03:59.330 --> 01:04:00.990
it's just step back and,

01:04:01.470 --> 01:04:02.990
and you know,

01:04:03.130 --> 01:04:04.290
I use the word common sense.

01:04:04.470 --> 01:04:06.450
It's actually in proverbs, it's wisdom.

01:04:06.590 --> 01:04:07.730
Just step back and use some wisdom.

01:04:07.890 --> 01:04:08.650
Look at the big picture.

01:04:10.330 --> 01:04:11.850
If it applies to one point,

01:04:11.910 --> 01:04:13.250
it has to apply to everything.

01:04:15.350 --> 01:04:16.830
So just step back and say,

01:04:16.890 --> 01:04:17.990
well, what would give me authority?

01:04:18.130 --> 01:04:19.170
Well, it would not give me authority

01:04:19.170 --> 01:04:20.530
and apply to such.

01:04:20.730 --> 01:04:21.750
But yeah, to answer your question,

01:04:21.850 --> 01:04:24.710
absolutely, we can buy authority

01:04:25.390 --> 01:04:26.330
in certain ways.

01:04:27.030 --> 01:04:28.550
You want to see the flip side of that?

01:04:28.690 --> 01:04:29.070
That's bad.

01:04:29.850 --> 01:04:31.390
Happens in our government all the time.

01:04:33.410 --> 01:04:34.630
People pay off

01:04:36.450 --> 01:04:38.130
people to make certain decisions

01:04:38.130 --> 01:04:38.830
in their favor.

01:04:39.010 --> 01:04:39.470
What did they do?

01:04:39.470 --> 01:04:40.270
They bought authority.

01:04:41.290 --> 01:04:42.610
And I'm going to step out here

01:04:42.610 --> 01:04:43.590
and make a statement

01:04:43.590 --> 01:04:45.370
that I think is quite accurate,

01:04:45.430 --> 01:04:46.390
but probably not popular.

01:04:47.890 --> 01:04:51.230
Joe and Hunter Biden exhibit number one.

01:04:52.810 --> 01:04:54.050
They were bought off.

01:04:54.210 --> 01:04:56.350
I mean, they've got the hard evidence now.

01:04:57.790 --> 01:04:58.870
They've been bought off

01:04:58.870 --> 01:04:59.930
by the Chinese government

01:04:59.930 --> 01:05:01.250
and other governments for years.

01:05:03.570 --> 01:05:05.270
And so they bought authority.

01:05:06.190 --> 01:05:07.990
So yeah, it can be done good or bad.

01:05:08.590 --> 01:05:09.210
Anybody else?

01:05:10.670 --> 01:05:11.310
Okay.

01:05:12.230 --> 01:05:12.870
Okay.

01:05:21.550 --> 01:05:25.030
So back to the smiling demon of deception.

01:05:25.490 --> 01:05:27.610
I just have a quick question,

01:05:27.730 --> 01:05:28.810
more like clarification.

01:05:29.370 --> 01:05:31.090
So when that manifests

01:05:31.090 --> 01:05:32.190
and someone's smiling

01:05:32.190 --> 01:05:33.650
and they shouldn't be smiling,

01:05:34.090 --> 01:05:36.290
I feel like there's a couple of people

01:05:36.290 --> 01:05:38.910
in my life that this manifests often.

01:05:40.270 --> 01:05:41.110
When it does manifest,

01:05:41.710 --> 01:05:43.170
this is what my thought is,

01:05:43.170 --> 01:05:50.150
is it's not really my place to deal with it

01:05:50.150 --> 01:05:52.370
unless the Holy Spirit leads you to do it.

01:05:52.710 --> 01:05:55.930
But it manifests often.

01:05:56.470 --> 01:05:57.510
With some people.

01:05:58.410 --> 01:06:00.830
And it makes you uncomfortable, right?

01:06:01.110 --> 01:06:02.230
You're like, this is where you're smiling.

01:06:02.870 --> 01:06:03.410
It's creepy.

01:06:03.730 --> 01:06:04.130
It's creepy.

01:06:06.890 --> 01:06:09.490
So that was my kind of clarification

01:06:09.490 --> 01:06:11.130
because I'm like, well, I see it often.

01:06:11.130 --> 01:06:14.050
And yeah, you can't just be like, you have a demon.

01:06:16.230 --> 01:06:16.950
Anyway, so...

01:06:16.950 --> 01:06:18.910
And then my second question is anger.

01:06:20.350 --> 01:06:21.590
Okay, before you go to that one,

01:06:21.690 --> 01:06:23.010
since it's not tied with the first one,

01:06:23.030 --> 01:06:25.810
let me throw a thought in behind the smiling one.

01:06:27.230 --> 01:06:28.490
What do you do with it

01:06:28.490 --> 01:06:29.790
when people are doing that to you?

01:06:31.850 --> 01:06:33.170
I'm not putting you in the spot.

01:06:33.290 --> 01:06:34.310
I'm just asking the question

01:06:34.310 --> 01:06:35.750
so I can throw some thoughts in.

01:06:37.170 --> 01:06:38.570
It goes back again to...

01:06:39.230 --> 01:06:39.730
Yeah.

01:06:40.850 --> 01:06:42.030
Am I supposed to...

01:06:42.030 --> 01:06:42.650
You ask God.

01:06:43.030 --> 01:06:43.750
Ask the Holy Spirit.

01:06:43.910 --> 01:06:45.830
Am I supposed to do anything about this?

01:06:48.410 --> 01:06:52.650
Am I supposed to do anything about this now?

01:06:55.150 --> 01:06:57.770
Or am I just supposed to recognize it and pray for it?

01:06:59.630 --> 01:07:01.530
Because sometimes he shows us things

01:07:01.530 --> 01:07:03.010
that we're not supposed to do a thing about.

01:07:04.790 --> 01:07:06.750
And that's a lesson to learn

01:07:06.750 --> 01:07:07.850
in hearing God's voice.

01:07:08.850 --> 01:07:10.510
Just because he showed you something

01:07:10.510 --> 01:07:12.590
doesn't mean you deal with it on the spot

01:07:12.590 --> 01:07:14.490
because he didn't tell you how to deal with it.

01:07:15.810 --> 01:07:20.710
For me, when I have the smiling demon talking to me,

01:07:20.870 --> 01:07:23.130
I just make note they're hiding something.

01:07:24.030 --> 01:07:25.310
There's a deception here.

01:07:25.650 --> 01:07:26.930
This is not the whole truth.

01:07:28.090 --> 01:07:30.190
So are you saying that that manifestation

01:07:30.190 --> 01:07:33.210
is showing that they are not giving

01:07:33.210 --> 01:07:34.470
the full truth in that moment?

01:07:34.690 --> 01:07:35.410
They're hiding something.

01:07:36.710 --> 01:07:37.590
It's deception.

01:07:38.110 --> 01:07:40.670
Now, depending upon how badly

01:07:42.430 --> 01:07:44.330
they are off they are,

01:07:44.470 --> 01:07:46.610
or how much they actually live in lies,

01:07:47.690 --> 01:07:49.170
they might be smiling all day long

01:07:49.170 --> 01:07:50.450
because their whole life is a lie.

01:07:51.390 --> 01:07:52.490
Well, that's sad.

01:07:53.130 --> 01:07:54.450
Well, it is, but...

01:07:55.310 --> 01:07:56.310
And it is creepy.

01:07:56.810 --> 01:07:57.410
It is creepy.

01:07:57.570 --> 01:08:00.970
Yeah, the smile totally contradicts

01:08:00.970 --> 01:08:03.130
what the emotion of the moment should be.

01:08:04.790 --> 01:08:07.570
And it just means that they're hiding things.

01:08:07.630 --> 01:08:09.070
Could be about the thing you're talking about,

01:08:09.170 --> 01:08:10.110
could be about whatever,

01:08:10.290 --> 01:08:12.830
but there's a spirit of deception there.

01:08:13.030 --> 01:08:13.970
So don't trust it.

01:08:14.370 --> 01:08:16.090
Okay, now go to the angry one.

01:08:16.630 --> 01:08:17.090
Question.

01:08:17.470 --> 01:08:19.090
So I've had this question for a while.

01:08:19.310 --> 01:08:21.090
It's like, how right to be,

01:08:21.250 --> 01:08:23.010
you're allowed to be angry but not to sin.

01:08:23.450 --> 01:08:26.010
And in my brain that goes to,

01:08:26.630 --> 01:08:28.410
well, we don't throw things,

01:08:28.410 --> 01:08:32.670
we don't punch people, that typical stuff.

01:08:32.670 --> 01:08:35.290
But then I'm like, Jesus be flipping tables.

01:08:37.230 --> 01:08:38.310
And I don't know,

01:08:38.330 --> 01:08:39.550
if my kids started flipping tables,

01:08:39.630 --> 01:08:40.530
I'd be like, that's rage.

01:08:43.050 --> 01:08:44.490
So you know what he mean?

01:08:44.710 --> 01:08:46.130
But, but he didn't sin.

01:08:46.330 --> 01:08:48.370
So obviously there was some type of

01:08:48.370 --> 01:08:50.590
righteous situation happening there.

01:08:50.690 --> 01:08:52.330
And I can't wrap my brain around it.

01:08:52.330 --> 01:08:53.730
And I was wondering if you had any thoughts.

01:08:54.290 --> 01:08:54.670
Okay.

01:08:56.270 --> 01:08:57.670
I do have thoughts.

01:08:57.830 --> 01:08:59.290
Give me just a second to

01:09:00.290 --> 01:09:03.270
my walking concordance tonight is not working very well.

01:09:03.770 --> 01:09:05.850
And I don't know where that scripture is.

01:09:05.970 --> 01:09:07.510
So let me see if I can find it.

01:09:08.090 --> 01:09:09.210
So it's, um...

01:09:09.210 --> 01:09:09.850
Do you know where it's at?

01:09:10.130 --> 01:09:14.590
Yeah, so it's John two, oh no, three.

01:09:14.590 --> 01:09:16.850
I have John 2.17 coming up.

01:09:17.130 --> 01:09:18.050
Let's see if that's it.

01:09:18.070 --> 01:09:18.590
Two or three.

01:09:18.970 --> 01:09:19.190
Oop.

01:09:19.290 --> 01:09:20.610
Somewhere, a minute.

01:09:24.130 --> 01:09:24.610
Yeah.

01:09:27.410 --> 01:09:29.150
So let's read it real briefly.

01:09:29.830 --> 01:09:31.490
It's John chapter two.

01:09:35.810 --> 01:09:36.850
Verse number...

01:09:36.850 --> 01:09:38.910
Starts around verse number 15.

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Two.

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Jesus cleanses the temple.

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Starts at verse 13.

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Verse 14.

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He found people selling oxen and sheep and doves

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and money changers doing business.

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So now to understand what that's about,

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you got to go back and study the culture of that.

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They were ripping people off.

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Okay.

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Well, hold on to that question until I answer the first one.

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Okay.

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So he had made a whip of cords.

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He drove them all out of the temple

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with the sheep and the oxen

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and poured out changers money and overturned the tables.

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And he said to those who sold doves,

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take these things away,

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do not make my father's house a house of merchandise.

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Then his disciples remembered that it was written,

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zeal for your house has eaten me up.

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So the Jews answered and said to him,

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what sign do you show that you have the authority to do these things?

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Verse 17.

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The zeal of your house has eaten me up.

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That's New King James.

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The NIV says zeal for your house will consume me.

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The amplified says,

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his disciples remember that it is written in the Holy Scriptures,

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zeal, the fervor of love for your house will eat me up.

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I will be consumed with jealousy for the honor of your house.

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The Young's literal translation says,

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the zeal of thy house did eat me up.

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So here's the interesting part.

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People attribute that action to Jesus being angry.

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It doesn't say any place he was angry.

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Notice that?

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He was, the amplified kind of says it the best,

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the zeal or the fervor of love for your house will eat me up.

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I will be consumed with jealousy for the honor of your house.

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Did he want it to stop?

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Yes, I'm sure he was angry.

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He wanted this to stop.

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That was his father's house.

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He was not happy about this.

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But the thing that caused him to throw the tables was not his anger.

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It was his love for what that house was supposed to be.

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And it was being polluted and desecrated.

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And his love for his father's house caused him to...

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That's what the Scripture says.

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Yeah.

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So it would be more of the position of his heart was

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filled with compassion leading then to action filled with love and wanting to

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bring it back to its wholly original state.

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I don't know if I'd use the word compassion there.

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Not compassion.

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Okay.

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Love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength,

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the desire to be obedient to the Father.

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And to be the Father's representative, the Lamb on earth who is going to bring salvation

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and to stand there and watch his father's house be destroyed.

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The love for his father to see that house be obedient to the Father's will

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drove him to saying, we ain't doing this.

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And then right away the scribes and Pharisees, well you have no authority to do that.

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Yeah.

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Because it always comes back to authority, always.

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So I wouldn't call it an anger issue.

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I'd call it a hot fervor of love zeal issue because that's what the Scripture calls it.

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Okay. Anybody else got anything?

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Are we done?

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Wait, so...

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Well, here's in my brain, so...

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How can you have a hot fervor and a love without being angry?

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No, no, no.

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No, no?

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No, I fully understand that one.

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No, I'm not fully. Probably this much.

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But I, I grasp...

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You got the concept.

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The concept.

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Yep.

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But to be angry and sin not, then what's the righteous way to then be angry?

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Excellent question.

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Because I feel like I don't know and I need to know.

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The righteous way to be angry is don't enter into any kind of sin to express your anger.

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Breaking windows, throwing pots and pans, cursing at people, yelling at people.

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Anything that is not like God's character, don't enter into that.

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And in your anger, don't sin.

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So express your anger in a mature, functional, adult way, when we all have struggled with that.

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Probably many times, maybe we still do.

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We have to learn how to say no and communicate without getting dysfunctional or operating in sin.

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Our voice has a right to be heard.

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And that's where boundaries come up.

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If I'm trying to express myself to you about something that I'm angry with you about, I want you to stop.

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And you just plain, I ain't listening to you, I want nothing to do with you.

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If I really love you, well then what does Scripture say I do next?

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Take somebody with me.

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Matthew 15, I get somebody with me and let's go talk to her.

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She's not listening to me.

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I'm not saying this right. Somehow she's not connecting.

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If that doesn't work, well then we get some representatives from the board.

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And we sit down and we try to deal with this.

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We try to fix this.

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See that's the adult way, a mature way of handling anger.

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And if it's not resolvable then, well then Jesus says, well then just separate.

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Agree to disagree.

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They go someplace else.

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You do something different just back away.

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But that takes a lot of self-discipline.

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It's just much easier to scream and yell and talk to other people.

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About how bad they are.

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Because we're angry.

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This might be stupid in my opinion.

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It's kind of a dumb question but I just need it to be said to me.

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So then when you're confronting someone and you're remaining calm.

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Telling them the truth but not in love would then be responding in some type of sin, correct?

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Truth can be really brutal.

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Yes it can.

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Doesn't make it wrong.

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But it can be really brutal.

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It's always good to try and it's hard to do this when you're angry.

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But it's always good to try to put yourself in their place and say if I say this to them,

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the way I'm planning to say this to them, what is that going to make them feel like?

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Usually we don't slow down enough to do that.

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We just speak our mind.

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They need to hear this, I'm going to tell them.

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And as a result, we fall all over our tongue.

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My mind's going in a number of different directions on examples and we're 10 o'clock already.

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It's okay.

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Let me just say that to speak the truth in love is going to require empathy.

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For the person.

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Put yourself in their place on what you just said and how you said it.

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To not speak the truth and just speak love, you're going to lie to them.

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I love them so much.

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I don't want to hurt their feelings.

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I'm just going to tell them what they want to hear.

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Don't do that.

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Has to be truth with love.

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And it's nice if you have a good relationship with them,

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but if you don't and God says you got to deal with this,

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well then you got to deal with it, whether you have a relationship or not.

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So anybody else?

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Well, thank you so much.

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We've reached the end.

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Tonight's been three hours.

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We had, I think last class was about the same.

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We've covered a lot.

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There will be more topics covered in the book,

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but we're done for this round.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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It makes it much easier to teach this class when people actually show up.

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So thank you.

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And thank you for those of you who watched online.

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Be blessed.

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Have an awesome night.