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You hear three stories, and then we'll go in the Q&A, and at that point you have to go.

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That's all fine, or you can just stay and learn something.

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I'm going to ask my wife to share first.

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And you just hang up here with me.

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I'm going to ask her to share first, what is it like?

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How did it start, and what is it like for you when it happens?

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Whichever.

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You want to come up there?

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So people can see.

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I like the illustration the Bible gives, and that Brad reiterated, and that's labor.

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There's something about, even when you get the baptism of spirit, I thank God.

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I was not a part of a group where they're like, does anyone want the baptismal spirit?

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You get prayed for, you pray in tongues, and then it's never done in church, it's

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never done at a Bible study, you just disappear into the night.

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And then what you learn by that is like, oh, I must have got it because I spoke in tongues

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a couple of words, and so I'm done.

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I didn't come into that like that.

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I was with a group of people that we travelled in the spirit.

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And so I thought, that's Christianity.

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I will tell you that to be pregnant with something starts with salvation and knowing

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the truth about salvation.

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When you started the message, it's the whole thing of come on up.

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Do you want to accept Christ?

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And you go, yeah, I accept him, right?

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And then we leave.

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We don't know what it is to be born again and to literally have asked for the

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kingdom of God to come rule in our heart.

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So when he comes in, he rules in our hearts and we know that and we're

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forgiven of sins.

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It's like the first thing I told the Lord is I owe you everything.

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So out of that prayer time, the beginning of learning to prayer,

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pray I got mandates, evangelism.

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The word tells us all what we're supposed to do, go into all the world.

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So I began to pray on that and it was like the mandate inside of me was

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the seed of pregnancy.

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So by around four months, sometimes earlier, you can feel a baby flicking

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in there just that little bit.

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And so you're like, it reminds you, oh, that's right.

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I'm pregnant with evangelism or I'm pregnant with whatever the

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mandate that he's really laid on your heart.

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And as it grows and it moves, there's a kicking.

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There's an awareness.

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There's an uncomfortability because you're like, this thing's

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getting close to me really doing it.

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Well, your prayers change in all those levels.

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But when you go into labor, the contractions start to remind you

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this is really going to happen.

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And there's a pressure and taking that time to pray is everything.

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Transition is the part of labor where, you know,

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there's no breaks between contractions anymore.

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This is a real deal.

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This thing is about to be birth.

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Prayers change throughout that.

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And you have to be able to work the same way a woman works

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with her body.

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You have to be able to work with the spirit.

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So I can give you an example of just years ago knowing

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that the Red Lake Nation that I'm called to,

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the native people, right?

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And so whenever I would get around anything, I'd just start

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crying and it'd be like, ah, they talk about it.

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I'd start crying.

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I'm like, oh, I just have this burden.

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It was like, I'm pregnant with it, you know?

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And sometimes I would cry like I'm almost like,

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like you have morning sickness or you get up and you're like,

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oh, you know, it's that type of thing.

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But then as it came time for me to really get closer to

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ministering there, I would get caught away in the spirit,

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just praying in tongues.

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And like Brad said, you can't make this up.

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You can't be like, I'm going to pray hard and I'm going

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to start saying this and that.

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And then I'll make myself pray for 10 minutes in tongues

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and all of this kind of stuff.

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Because you're pregnant with the mandate, there's a burden

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that comes up and you develop this love and desire like,

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this has to come to pass.

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There are people dying.

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See, I can tell you that's what comes up, right?

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I have that for this church.

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I have it for TBO.

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I have it for all the assignments.

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I have many children, right?

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And there's more inside of me to be birthed, the same with you.

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But this love comes up for that mandate and it causes you

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to be in a spot where you begin to pray in the spirit.

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How Lord, what Lord?

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And there's a difference when you cross over,

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where I've had it, when I've been praying in a car

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just praying in the spirit on the way up,

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I just got to pull my car over.

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I can't drive anymore.

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I am just, I am feeling what they're feeling.

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I'm feeling what the Holy Spirit's feeling.

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I'm feeling it to a point that I can't hardly talk.

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Some of it's my feelings.

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The rest is the love of God.

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Because I can't love the mandates he's given me,

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like the children he's given me, the way he loves them.

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On my best day, you know,

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I could push into prayer for a little while

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and be like, there, I love them.

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But when you feel what God feels,

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it's this relentless labor of like,

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this has to come to pass.

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And you feel it with your whole being.

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That's when you know you've crossed over into that.

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And so last time that I had that,

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I was pulled over the side of the road or whatever.

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I'm praying I start to see faces.

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I start to see these faces of people

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I've never met before,

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but I'm automatically in love with them

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because I'm feeling his love for them.

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It isn't me conjuring up a love.

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It's I'm feeling his love for them.

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And then when I get there to minister,

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lo and behold, two of those people walked in

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and it was like, those were the faces that I saw.

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And I had this just like, I love you.

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God loves you. He needs you.

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You know, it was like, that's just what came up

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and that came out of the prayer time.

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So it's not like being a machine.

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It's literally working with the same spirit

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that raised Christ from the dead.

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And as Jesus fulfilled his mandate,

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he is saying for us to do the same.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I'll just add this to that because,

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you know, you have to want to be pregnant.

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You know, I've got grandkids, you know,

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now that have gotten older and they're getting married

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and there's one particular couple of my granddaughter

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and her husband and, you know,

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we all bug them about having kids, of course.

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That's kind of the thing you do.

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We just want more great grandbabies.

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And, but they're just busy with life.

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And so they don't, they don't want to have any kids.

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And which is fine. I mean, that's not the problem.

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But the thing is this, you see,

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they don't want to do that

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because if they get pregnant,

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it's going to disrupt their life.

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And some Christians don't want to be pregnant

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with the things of God,

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because it's going to disrupt their life.

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I'm going to ask Felicia to share how it works for her.

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So putting it all together,

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I used to really seek in prayer and try really hard

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and time it 30 minutes an hour.

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Okay, I did it. I prayed, you know, and

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as time went on, life went on,

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I had, we have three kids and things get really busy.

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And there are things that you struggle with in life.

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And I told the Lord,

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I really need you in everyday life.

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It's great to meet you at church,

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but I really need my personal life

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to be more powerful than just church.

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Because I'm, I'm like dying here.

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I mean, it was like to that point.

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And I want to do things for your kingdom.

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I do, I want to pray, I want,

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but I'm like drained out, you know.

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Um, so yeah, I guess to put it in a nutshell,

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God encountered me and

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he encounters me regularly.

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And throughout my day, I don't just,

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because I have three kids at home school,

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you can't just go and leave.

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So he is, amazingly,

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there's been times where I've just sat there,

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they're running around.

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It's crazy.

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And God is speaking to me

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and I'm weeping and crying and interceding.

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And you just, you just go for it

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when they're there with you.

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And then there's other times too,

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where he'll wake me in the night.

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I'll hear him say my name, Felicia.

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Felicia, wake up and he'll speak things

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and he'll show me things and I'll start,

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I'll pray. You got to get up.

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You got to pray.

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So it's not like a striving

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to try and get to this place of prayer.

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He's walking it with me throughout the day

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with my children.

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And I don't know about you guys,

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but I have to have his presence with me every day.

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Or I don't want to keep walking.

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So it's to me, I'm not thinking about it like,

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I'm going to enter this and you do go in deep.

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And then I'll come out and I'll live everyday life.

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No, I have to have him every day.

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Like, he's got to be there with me.

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And there's times I've had people,

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I mean, we're at the movies

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and I was sitting there and I was like,

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and he started talking to me.

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So I closed my eyes and started talking.

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Ariana looks at me and she's like,

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but I'm just talking to him.

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I'm praying he's there with me.

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I'm listening, you know.

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And for me, that's how it works.

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And also when he speaks,

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write it down, write things down.

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Make it important, if you can,

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show him this is important to me,

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what you're showing to me, saying to me,

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and follow through with what he asks to do,

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like the, like she said, the mandates, follow through.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I'll briefly share how it happened to me.

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And I want young people, I want you to listen up.

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Because I was, I made Jesus my savior

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when I was seven years old.

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I was baptized in the Holy Spirit

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when I was in junior high.

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That's when my life changed.

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I was a goof off.

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From, salvation didn't change me a lot.

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It was, this is funny,

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but it was known amongst the teachers at school,

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great school, they pass the information on

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from year to year.

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If he, me, won't behave, get ahold of his parents,

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it'll take care of it.

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That's, that was me.

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It's just like, and I was saved, you know.

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But when I got baptized in the Holy Spirit,

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everything changed.

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The way the intercession started with me

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is I came to the realization as a freshman

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in high school that most of my friends

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were going to hell.

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It, it takes God to give that revelation to you.

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But once I came to the understanding that

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my friends that I hung out with every day,

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if they were, if something would happen,

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they'd die in a car accident or whatever.

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It don't make any difference if they're

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going to church or not.

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They're going to hell because you can't

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see any life of God in them.

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They're, they're going through a form and a ritual,

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but there's no life deposited in them.

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And Mary referred to it as a burden.

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I, you know, I, let me use a different word.

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You begin to become very concerned about something,

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heavily concerned about the welfare

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and the best of someone.

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It usually involves people,

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but it can involve situations too.

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You become extremely concerned for them

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and you begin praying.

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I had, I had, I had my friends

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broken up in groups of how I would pray for them.

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And, and every evening before I'd go to sleep,

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I would have my time where I'd pray.

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And that started developing into something.

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I had my friends in groups

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and I knew that this is not,

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I was praying for their salvation.

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And the concern grew stronger and stronger over time.

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And as that grew stronger,

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there's, there's a change that happened inside me.

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And I would, I would start praying for them in English

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and then I'd pray for them in tongues.

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And it would start down here,

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best way I can describe it.

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It'd start down here and it literally would start.

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You felt like your physical body was moving

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to begin with it was not.

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But you would feel this coming up out of your spirit.

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You have to just let that happen.

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That's God.

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Just go with that.

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And you, as you're praying in your prayer language,

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it begins to become,

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I don't know of anybody

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who ever has interceded in the spirit

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without getting emotional.

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You become very emotional.

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And that's when you begin feeling

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what the Holy Spirit's feeling.

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You begin feeling what

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some of the people you're praying for are feeling.

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And it starts to become very emotional.

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So for us good Swedes and Norwegians,

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we're going to have to learn how to

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let our emotions actually manifest.

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It's how it works.

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And as that would begin,

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there is, it becomes so overwhelming emotionally.

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You can't, like Mary said, I couldn't,

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I can't speak in English.

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I got to just pull the car over.

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I'm not driving well here.

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For me personally, it's the best description I can give.

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It's like having the dry heaves.

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There will be a contraction,

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if you'll just let it go,

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there will be a contraction

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that it's like you're trying to push something out.

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And it's your spirit and travail.

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And I didn't know what it was

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and the first time or two it scared me, so I quit.

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And afterwards that bothered me

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because what in the world was that?

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I grew up in a church that believed in it,

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but I saw it very rarely.

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I knew,

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I knew the presence of God enough as a junior higher

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to know this was not demonic.

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This was God.

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So I finally quit backing away and shutting it down

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and just let it happen.

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The whole thing is built on,

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let's just use the word love,

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you are so concerned for someone or something

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this has to change.

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It can't stay this way, not for me, for them.

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It can't stay that way.

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And you begin going before the throne and praying and saying,

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God you got to do something in this,

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you got to help this, you got to change this situation

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and it'll start moving down here.

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And if you'll just let that go,

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it doesn't take long,

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the Holy Spirit is praying through you

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with groans and utterances that you can't,

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words are insufficient.

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But you're very engaged emotionally.

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And like to me it's the best way I can say it,

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it's still that way, it'll become like dry heaves.

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It's like something in my spirit is trying to get out

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and your body even gets involved in trying to get it out.

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Which I found it interesting,

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you gave the analogy of giving birth.

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It's a different aspect of it,

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but it's a travail, it's a labor.

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That would go on for 15, 20 minutes, sometimes 40,

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as a freshman, sophomore in high school.

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And the one thing,

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well I'll just say it as one thing,

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once you're done,

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the peace that you're in,

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the nearness of the presence of God is overwhelming.

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There's nothing on this earth like it.

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There's nothing that compares.

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And I keep telling people,

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it's being lost.

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And I keep telling people,

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when you're at your wit's end,

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instead of getting on the phone,

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instead of getting on social media,

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take that stupid device,

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shut it off, put it in a drawer,

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get alone with God and just dump your heart.

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And if you're baptized in the Holy Spirit,

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that will turn into intercession.

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And once that is done,

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you don't need drugs,

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you don't need alcohol,

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you don't need your friends to prop you up and say,

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oh, it's going to be okay,

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you'll get through this,

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we're here for you,

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you don't need all the strokes,

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you don't need all the attaboys.

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You will be so full

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of pure peace and presence of God.

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You will fall in love

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with that time.

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And you will want to go back

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and go back and go back.

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Interestingly, it doesn't always bear fruit immediately.

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I prayed for my friends all the way through high school,

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I prayed for them into college,

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and then, you know,

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things disappear,

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you go different directions, and so forth.

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At the 10-year class reunion,

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they asked me to do a Sunday morning service.

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And a group of them

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that were on my groups were there.

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And every one of them that I had

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had travail over got saved that Sunday morning.

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That's awesome.

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There was 12 of them that got saved.

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That was the fruit of the labor.

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And it is labor, but when it's done,

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it's like a woman who just had a baby.

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Yeah, it is.

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You would think she'd be laying in that bed,

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holding that baby,

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saying, my God, I will never do this again.

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That was the most horrid experience

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that anyone can go through.

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They're not even out of the hospital yet.

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They're ready for another round.

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That's what this is like.

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That's what it's like.

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It's love.

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See, it's the Father.

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It's love.

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And so it's, you know,

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because it is work.

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It's a labor, you know.

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But the thing is, it's so full of love.

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You know, as you're praying it,

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because it's just the heart of God,

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in the Holy Spirit working through you

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to bring these things to pass.

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And so you do.

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I mean, the emotions flow,

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and it's just this love in the thing.

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Yep.

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And Jesus said he's the spirit of peace.

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Jesus is the Prince of peace.

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He gave us the spirit of peace.

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Peace I give unto you, not the world give.

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Give I unto you.

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So do not let your heart be troubled.

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Do not be afraid.

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Once you've engaged with the Holy Spirit,

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and it has to be him.

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And the thing that always births it for me

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is this heavy concern.

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This thing has to change.

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It's not God.

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What's happening now is not God.

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Has to change.

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If that will be allowed to grow,

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that concern that used to call it a burden,

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if that will be allowed to grow,

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it will take you into intercession.

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It's inevitable.

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And you fall so in love

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with interceding and what is left in your life

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when you're done,

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you crave for it to happen again.

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You literally crave for it.

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So we're going to go into some Q&A time

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because this is really, I'm 100% with you.

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This is a last days phenomenon.

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Once the last days began and the church was birthed,

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don't you dare leave Jerusalem

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until you've got the Holy Spirit.

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This is necessary.

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And with losing it, it's not, you know,

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things aren't going to go

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the way they should.

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So we're going to go into some Q&A time.

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You're welcome to stay if you need to leave.

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Please feel free to do it quietly.

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I just wanted to make sure everybody

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heard those stories.

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And we could have stories here.

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There's numerous people here who intercede

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and they could all share and, you know,

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maybe some of them still will during this Q&A time.

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But what, now I'm going to speak as a pastor,

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observing the Apostle over us

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As you were sharing, it's like the light came on.

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It's like, oh, I see it.

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I see it.

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God asked us to, in the physical,

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get ready for the next generation,

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get ready for the harvest.

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This building's not big enough.

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It's not going to supply what it needs to be done.

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We need to build.

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And we're in the process of the physical going after that.

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But I won't be surprised at all if this entire week,

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God doesn't work on getting us ready

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to not just do physical things.

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We can build that thing and have it done

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and it just sets there.

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It's going to take the Spirit of God

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to bring what he wants done.

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And I wouldn't be surprised at all

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if there won't be different things

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touched throughout this entire week,

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going with that theme of,

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this is what God needs to do,

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what he needs to do in the future.

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So I think you hit it a hundred percent.

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Your concerns are all true.

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Yeah, persecution comes out.

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People don't understand.

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People don't want to understand.

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But there are those that know.

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I have no clue what this is about,

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but I want it.

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And those are the ones that are going to carry it.

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And if we don't teach them

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at the risk of others going in and in and in,

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well, then you lose it all.

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So any questions?

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I want to share before I have to leave for Reddy.

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Well, I thought you were left already.

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Just this thought.

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And it was, I got saved in 1981

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and got the mandate just to evangelize.

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And I remember listening to Jerry Savelle

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and he brought up this,

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and it's always stuck in me.

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It's been a part of ministry for me.

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The scriptures that there's in two places,

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Luke and Matthew repeat it,

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and it says,

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Pray ye the Lord of the harvest for souls.

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So when I first got saved,

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and all that's we're supposed to do

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we're supposed to pray for souls.

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And so I'd be fathering the name of Jesus.

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I just pray for my uncle.

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And you know, the nice prayers

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where you pray around everything

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and make sure it's Stephen and make sure, you know.

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And then you're like, there, I prayed.

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Well, I was listening to Jerry Savelle

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who at that time was out on the beaches

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and that's where revival was, you know,

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that they had just come through revival

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out on the beaches, California and places like that.

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And I just really looked up

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to the evangelism that was taking place

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because I'm after souls.

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And he said there's a word picture in the Greek.

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So sometimes it'll say,

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here's what the meaning of a word is.

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And then sometimes the Greek will have

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like, here's the,

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here's what we're trying to get you to picture.

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Pray ye there means as if it begging

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with such intention

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that you appear to other people

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like you're begging God for souls.

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So then I tried to do that by myself.

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Again, you know, I didn't understand.

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I've had the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

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So I would go before the Lord and I'd be like,

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God, I really want this.

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You know, then I'd start getting louder.

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I, you know, I'm trying to conjure up

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some emotion and whatever.

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And to the degree we really think we want something,

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the timer about five minutes,

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your prayers, Peter out.

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You're like, you, like you said,

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everything you can come up with it

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to show them that you really want this or whatever.

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But I got caught in some revival services

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where we began to pray for the loss

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and literally hours would go by

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and you thought that you were praying for 10 minutes.

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It's just like when the Holy Spirit comes

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and works alongside of us and does that in us.

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I mean, stuff's coming out of you.

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You can just pray and pray and pray,

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but you can't conjure that up on your own.

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So that was part of the mandate that's for all of us.

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Pray ye the Lord of the harvest for souls.

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And it has to be by the Spirit to get that to happen.

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Yep. Very good.

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There was a hand over there somewhere.

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Okay. We'll have the usher come

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so that it gets on recording

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so people know what the question was

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before we try to answer.

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Thank you. So intercession.

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Can I just ask two questions?

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Verifying question.

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Intercession is not just praying over a brother.

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It's praying with the Holy Spirit.

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Right? Is that correct?

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That's what I would say.

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Yes.

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Okay. And then also,

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how do we get to that point of breakthrough of...

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like Pastor Mary said,

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yearning for other people, yearning,

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having that emotional breakthrough

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because I feel like that's a step

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that's hard to break through, you know?

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I'm going to say first

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and then you can answer.

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It is directly tied to how much you love people.

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The more intense our love is

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for people, for a congregation,

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for a situation,

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it just automatically happens.

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It's like Brad says,

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how do you teach somebody to do this?

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It all goes back to love.

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And the more we love

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and are concerned and want to see

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a situation change,

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the more the Holy Spirit,

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it just happens.

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If you just let it.

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Yeah.

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No, there can be individual situations.

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Like, say God really puts it on your heart to

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pray for someone.

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Say you got to notice that someone,

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you know, was in a car accident

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and it's a critical situation.

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And so you just say,

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well, you know, I'm going to pray for them.

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Well, you know,

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so the Holy Ghost then He comes along

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and He takes hold together with you.

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And so you begin to pray in that deeper realm

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for this person

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because it's a tragic situation

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there needs intervention like right now.

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And so you can pray that way

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and you just go with that burden

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and then you can reach a place

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where it's like, hey, we got it.

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We got it.

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We got the breakthrough.

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And you just begin to sense

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in your heart a peace that comes.

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It says, you know what?

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We got it.

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And I've even done this a few times.

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I've actually called people and told them.

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I said, you know what?

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Everything's going to be fine.

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Don't worry about it.

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Seriously.

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Because I have that kind of confidence

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in what you did.

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And so I just tell them,

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don't worry about everything's going to be great.

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We got it.

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We got the victory.

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It's taken care of because I knew it down here.

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But you know, there's some things

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that are like a more broad thing,

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you know, like for just praying for the loss

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and things like this.

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I mean, you're always endeavoring

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to be sensitive to the spirit of God

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because He's going to put burdens on you.

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You know, and I don't know

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if that's a good word to use burden,

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but I mean this desire to pray and so forth.

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And so that can be an ongoing thing

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and you just yield it to it.

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And, but there can be specific situations

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where man, you pray until you get the victory in it.

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And it's like, whoa, I got this just as peace comes.

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And I go, hey, we got this thing beat.

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And you have to be willing to stay.

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Stay till you get there.

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Stay till you get there.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It can't be.

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Well, I got 10 minutes.

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Let's get there.

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No.

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It probably won't happen.

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No.

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Yeah.

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Any other right there?

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So, an observation and also then I have a question.

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There are times where circumstances can trigger,

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for instance, during election times.

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And specifically in this country,

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I can be really stirred and it'll be really easy to go there to intercede.

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My question is, is when it has happened with me,

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a lot of what Pastor Verne has described,

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it's like you're, it's within your stomach

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and it's like you're doubled over.

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And there's been times where it will seem as though

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your physical body is just vibrating.

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I mean, like you're connected to an electrical current.

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Which I would recognize as the spirit.

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Is that to be expected or what is your input on that?

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I would say that would not be the general rule across the board.

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See, because God knows each one of us individually.

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Now I would say probably what you're just experiencing,

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you feel like my whole body is just really into this thing.

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You're just sensing the power of God.

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I mean, it's the power of God just working through you

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as you're praying like this.

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And I mean, and it's just disrupting.

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I mean, and we have examples of that within the scriptures.

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I mean, when God's presence came down and touched earth,

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gosh, the mountain shook and there was lightnings and thunders.

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I mean, and so when his power comes in contact with our bodies,

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man, sometimes there's a reaction.

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And I think a lot of that that you're experiencing is just,

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it's just the power of God just flowing through you

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in this place of prayer.

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But to say that that would work that way with everybody?

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No, because we're all different.

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And God knows what ministers to us.

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You know, I know with me, because you know, I don't,

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you know, you all don't know me all that well.

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But I mean, I'm a more reserved, quiet person.

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Now I can, I can get crazy if I want to.

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Put me on a, put me on a, put me on a snowmill and I'm crazy.

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But I'm pretty reserved and quiet.

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See, so I mean, God understands that he knows me.

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And so he'll work with me that way.

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You know, most of the time my praying is a lot like you've earned,

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man, I'll get to praying for things.

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And all of a sudden I mean, I'm just a mess.

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You know, I'm just crying.

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And, but that's just the way he uses me.

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And so no, I wouldn't say that we should,

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everybody should expect that kind of experience.

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But if God works with you that way, awesome.

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You know, because he knows that's the way you are.

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And does that make sense?

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Any other questions?

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You've interceded, haven't you?

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Can you explain what it's like for you?

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I'd like more women's perspectives here.

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I'm putting you kind of on the spot.

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You want to think about it just a little bit?

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Okay, think about it.

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Yeah, we just, you know, we just want to try and help you get to that place.

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Where did they do it?

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Yeah. I mean, and again, it's, it's,

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we don't want to make it sound like, well,

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this burden of prayer is like a real bad thing.

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Oh, you're going to, you're going to love it.

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You're going to love it.

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Yeah.

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Because you're, you're working with God and man,

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there's nothing greater than the fact that, man, no,

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I mean, I'm connected up with the Holy Spirit here

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and he's working through me and we're praying.

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And, and it's always, it's always enveloped in love.

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Because what is he?

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He's love.

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And so it's always this love.

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I remember just this last April, April 20, 25,

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I do my annual men's conference and,

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and I was praying one evening before the meeting,

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just back in my room and, and I just started praying.

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And then all of a sudden, man,

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just the anointing just came on me to pray.

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And I just, I'm just praying a minute.

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I'm just crying and, but you know,

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it was the most wonderful experience.

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You say, yeah, there was a,

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there was a burden there to pray for the guys,

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but yet it's not a bad thing because I'm working with God.

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It's a good thing.

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And it's like, man, this is awesome.

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You know, you can't hardly wait to get back to that place again.

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So it's not a bad thing.

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Yeah, you crave it.

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This is interesting.

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It's not a question, but I would like to say it.

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When we were having praise, the Lord said something to me

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and he said, write it down.

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And I thought, well, I don't know.

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I don't think I'll write it down.

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Yeah, write it down.

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So I wrote it down.

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And then I thought, okay.

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And then he said, you'll get the answer.

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And I thought, oh, so here's what he said.

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Would you, if you could,

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commit to me as I have committed to you.

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Will you, because you can,

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say yes to me and I will cause you to be able to do this.

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That's what it was.

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And I thought, okay.

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So I was waiting.

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And then you told, you answered.

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So also one more thing.

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When you were talking, isn't this,

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doesn't the scripture out of your innermost being

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will flow rivers of living water?

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Once you get in that water,

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and once you feel it and enjoy it,

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you're caught.

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You are, yeah.

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Is there anybody 35 years and under here

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who does this, praise this way?

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Do you, because if you do,

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I want you to share what's it,

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I'd like more of the younger generation to express.

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How does it work for you?

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If you need to think about it a bit, that's fine.

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No, I can go ahead now.

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If I've only done it a few times, I guess I'd say,

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and it's always been,

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most of the time it's been in a group setting,

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which gets a little awkward,

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because I'm not the most outgoing person

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or maybe the most confident sometimes.

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But there was one time,

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I'll give a specific story.

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There was one time,

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there was a gentleman up front,

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and we were going down, I believe,

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it was a prayer line, I think it was two years ago now.

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And I had,

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was sitting somewhere over here,

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and I was like, I should really go up,

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and I want to pray for him.

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I feel like I have something on my heart right now,

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and I get weepy.

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And I went up there,

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and I had asked you,

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do you think I can go up there and pray for him?

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You said, we're going to pray for him,

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and you go ahead and support.

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And it was like,

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I mean, I just break down to the ground.

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I didn't even know how to feel,

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but it was just this yearning,

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and like you're saying, you're just doubled over.

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I'm just, you know, I'm still kind of standing,

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but it's just as intense as I've ever felt it before.

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And I probably went on for a couple of few minutes,

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and I'm just praying in tongues,

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and I'm just crying out for his healing,

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and that his success and his family line,

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and everything like that.

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And then after that,

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I kind of just wrapped up.

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It was a little awkward the end, I guess, I don't know.

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What did it feel like inside you?

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I remember when that happened.

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Like a blender, I mean, I don't know.

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It was insane.

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It was a lot going on.

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Yeah, heavy emotion.

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Oh, my word, yeah.

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And it's not the emotion, it's not for you.

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No, it's all towards him.

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It's just felt, you feel like a funnel.

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You just feel like you're projecting everything you have

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and every bit of empathy in a way towards this person,

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and that, you know, you just,

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you need to see them change.

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You need to see their life changed in every way possible.

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Yeah, that's good. Very good.

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Awesome.

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Any other questions?

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Input? Right there.

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Brian, I'm going to have you share.

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I know you're not as young as you used to be,

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but I want you to share.

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I know, but I'm going to have you share.

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When I'm praying in tongues, I'm easily distracted,

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and I get very frustrated because I start praying,

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and then I'm distracted.

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So is there a cure?

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Well, you know,

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kind of hard to answer that question.

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For me, the way I would approach that is,

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okay, Brad, quit being distracted.

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You know, I mean, that's the way I would approach it.

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If I'm endeavoring to be praying,

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and I know I want to give this time to the Lord,

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and yet all this, this stuff keeps coming up,

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trying to distract, and we can all be there.

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You know, and a lot of times in our minds,

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that's probably the biggest thing for me,

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because I've got so many things going on,

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and so I want to give this time just to fellowship with God

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and so forth, and then your mind is just going everywhere.

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And what I've just done for me is like,

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okay, Brad, I'm just not going to let that influence me.

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And so I'm just sticking this thing out, so to speak.

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You know, I'm going to, I'm praying here until

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some of these thoughts start going away for me,

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and I'm just going to stick this thing out long enough.

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And that's why I said a few times when I was sharing with you,

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you know, sometimes you just got to pray long enough

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to get to that place.

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And then you just stick with it,

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and then things start, you know, working pretty soon.

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Gosh, you start sensing some things,

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and then you start following the Holy Ghost,

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and all of a sudden you find yourself in a really good place

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and praying for others.

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I mean, that's just me.

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I don't know if you got anything to add to that,

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as far as like distractions.

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Yeah, something that has helped me with that,

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and I still do it, I've done it for years,

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is I will have a pad of paper,

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because when you say, okay, I'm going to pray for now,

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you know, and I try not to set a time,

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because then that feels legalistic to me.

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I'm just going to pray until I feel like I'm done.

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Soon as you enter into that,

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I will have everything that needs to be done come to mind.

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And the only thing that works for me,

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because if I say, well, I'll remember that later,

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and then I don't, then I'm angry,

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because I had remembered it, and now I can't remember it.

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So I'll just start writing now,

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and sometimes I'll fill a whole page.

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This needs to be done, that needs to be done.

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In fact, I've used it as a tool, and I'm convinced

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it's more spiritual than it is flesh.

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I'm convinced of that, because if there's something I know

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I'm supposed to do, and I can't remember it,

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all I have to do is enter into my time of prayer.

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And within two minutes, it is there, and it feels so urgent.

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If you don't do this now, the world will blow up.

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And it's like...

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Thank you, demon. I'm going to write that down.

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Yeah, write that down, yeah.

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Because they're trying to get me distracted, and get me off.

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That's very good.

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And that has worked for me.

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And once the page is full, now everything calms down.

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And it's not as easy.

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I can't say you don't ever get distracted,

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but it's not as easy.

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You can enter in.

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And it flows a little easier.

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Yeah.

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You ready?

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I'll just share a little for me.

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I feel like a frequency or a vibration,

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like a chord plugged into a socket.

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And so sometimes I'll pray specifically for some things.

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And then systemically, I'll just ask the Holy Spirit

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to show me other things,

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because I want to see and hear what God sees in here.

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So I'll lean into that a little bit.

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And then people's sort of faces will come,

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or people that like I maybe worked with 30 years ago

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will show up, and then just, you know,

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they're showing up for a reason.

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And so I want to be obedient, and I'll do that.

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And then sometimes I'll just, like,

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when I walk every morning, I pray every morning,

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it's part of my practice.

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Great way to start the day.

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And there'll be times when, when even walking,

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I'll have to stop on the side of the road.

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And it just...

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It's willing up to you right now.

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Yeah, it's just so full of this emotion.

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And I, so I have a heart for this church and for people,

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but also what's going on in the world right now.

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And that God's justice and, you know,

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mercy come forth.

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And so a lot of times that will be part of it, too.

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Yeah, kind of going back to the distraction thing,

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I'll just add this to it.

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You know, find that place where you can be,

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where there's not a lot of distractions.

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And it's different for everybody.

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There's different things for me.

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I mean, this may sound a little funny,

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but see, you know, I've traveled my whole life pretty much with the ministry.

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And my place is in the car.

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I mean, I can, I can get in the car and all of a sudden

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every thought about everything else that I got going on in life

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just somehow seems to disappear.

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And I'll start praying, talking to God in the car.

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It's just, it's a place where there's not a lot of distractions for me.

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And so I like that.

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And so sometimes you can just find kind of those plays.

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Okay, what works good for you,

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where there's not a lot of distractions and just treasure that time.

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Yeah, for me, I have to get rid of the phone.

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Have to get rid of the phone.

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It just does not work with it.

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Did you have a question over there?

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Let's go to that question first.

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He'll come with the mic.

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Then we'll come back to Brian.

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I wanted to talk to you about the distraction.

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I used to struggle with that more.

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But you hit it too.

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As I'm praying, I will write things down as they pop up.

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And then I'll go back to praying.

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If it comes up, I'll write it down because then you can set it aside.

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But the other thing that you mentioned several times is pray out loud.

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It's harder to be distracted when you're praying out loud

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than when you're trying to pray quietly.

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So, and then that requires you to probably get into a

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place that you're not around other people as much.

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So, so yeah, that helped me.

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That's very good.

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Good.

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Yeah, thank you for sharing that.

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I've said it this way before.

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You will never get closer to heaven on earth than in intercession.

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It is literally, it's as close as I've ever experienced

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what heaven could be like is intercession right after.

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Brian?

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Hey, I'm sorry.

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I'll just add this.

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And seeing it, a great man of God said this.

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He's in heaven now, but he had said this.

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He would talk about how he would pray and you do kind of,

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as you go along, you start to work in this realm.

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Like it's like you're in this supernatural realm.

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And sometimes you're, like I said, you sense that your other places even,

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you know, you didn't physically get transported there,

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but it's like your other places, but you're working in the spiritual realm.

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And the more and the more that you give to that,

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the farther and farther you kind of get off into the spiritual realm.

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And this great man of God that like said,

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he was a great prayer warrior.

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And he made this statement.

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He said, there were times I got so far out in the spirit,

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I didn't think I was going to get back.

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In other words, like he's just, I'm just going on over in the heaven.

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He didn't know if he was going to get back.

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Now, but see, because there is a working out there.

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And I think we need to, we need to know it's there

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and endeavor, you know, to let's pray more and let's yield more.

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Because there's things that,

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because you get out in those places in the spiritual realm,

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you're accomplishing things that gosh, you wouldn't even think about otherwise.

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And God's using you in that place of prayer, man, to change,

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change governments and nations and different things happen.

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That's just amazing.

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And it's like, whoa.

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But anyway, it has to be right.

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For me, it's exactly what you said, Pastor Fern,

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where it's like a dry heave,

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where it feels like something's being pushed on my stomach.

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Like it's just being pushed and pushed.

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And it's just like, like you said, a funnel that was actually good.

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Just like it has to come out.

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And there's times where I'm in it.

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It's like, I can still think it's emotional.

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I can still, and then I can start seeing and hearing what I'm praying for.

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The one that really stood out to me was back in, I know the month,

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February of 2018, this happened to me.

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We were taking a trip to here and I was actually coming to preach.

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And I was preaching on something.

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And it just, all of a sudden I was in my, I remember being in my bedroom

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and it was just pushing and I was just praying out.

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And by the end of it, I knew exactly who I was praying for.

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And it was like, God said, this message I gave you is for that one person.

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It'll benefit everybody, but it was for that one.

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And it happened to be my father, which that was the year he died.

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So that fall, what happened was that was in February, June,

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he had a near-death experience.

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And then I was able to minister and pray for him.

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And he was able to receive the thing that I was praying for.

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And then that September, he ended up passing away.

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But it was just, just a pushing.

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And it gets to the point where I was like, I want to be done.

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Because it was like, it takes so much out of me.

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But it's like, I got to keep going.

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I can't be done.

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And then like what you said, when it's all over, it's just like that piece.

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Like the Philippians 4, where you brought everything to the Lord,

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you laid it upon him, you put it at his feet,

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and then he gives you that piece beyond understanding.

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It's just, the hardest thing, when we moved here,

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I had a secret place.

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I had that quiet where I had no distractions.

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And I didn't have that here.

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And I was like, I was lost for a couple of months.

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Because it was like, I need that.

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I got to have it. I crave it.

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I can't live without it. It's what sustains me.

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And you touched one thing.

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You can hand the mic up to Abby.

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She had a question, hand up.

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You touched one thing that I want to emphasize.

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You can stop.

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It's not something that takes you over,

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and you're out of control, and you're in a trance.

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I'm not saying it can't happen.

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I mean, if God wants to go there.

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But 99.9% of the time, you can stop.

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Yeah, you can stop it.

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And when you do stop, you know you missed it.

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I mean, you're just deep in your heart.

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It's like, ah, man, I shouldn't have done that.

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But you can.

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It's not like you're under the control of something.

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You're yielding to it. That's different.

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So in my time, when I pray,

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I just saw this clarifying question

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of the fullness of intercession.

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Because there's intercession and travail.

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And then there's times where it's time to dance

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and intercede through dance.

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And then there's times to intercede through singing

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and waiting to sing out something from the Lord.

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Or there's times where I see a dance movement,

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and then I do that dance.

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Does that make sense?

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So to me, I thought that that's a form of intercession.

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I'm just kind of measuring it against you

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on what you have to say.

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You know, I would...

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And then, you know, sometimes I mean,

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it's just kind of where we're at.

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I can't really point you to a certain verse

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or anything else.

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But when we're really talking about intercession,

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it really is an issue of working with the Holy Spirit

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and praying, saying something.

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Now, can the Holy Spirit, you know, move us in other areas,

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you know, move us to dance,

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move us to express something a certain way?

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Absolutely.

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But I don't think that we really can classify that as saying,

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well, that's intercession.

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It is the Holy Spirit doing things.

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And because, I mean, I've danced in the Spirit, you know,

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and people said, well, you look really weird.

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And I probably did, but I didn't care.

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And because, you know, sometimes the Holy Spirit,

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the Holy Spirit comes along on you,

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that anointing comes on you and it just gets in your legs.

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You can, you actually feel it in your legs.

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It just gets in your legs and you just got to do something.

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And, but, you know, so the intercession part

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still is you actually saying something.

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It's you working together with the Holy Spirit

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where you're actually speaking things out

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because these words create things.

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They cause things to happen.

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But now you're speaking it under the anointing

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and the help of the Holy Spirit.

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And you may not even know what you're saying,

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or it can just be like we talked about this travail,

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the groanings.

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And, but yeah, there can be other things,

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but I won't really classify necessarily that as intercession.

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Is that okay?

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No, totally okay.

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I was just like, just in that time,

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I get sometimes, not always, moved in that way.

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And then I like make my way back in a sense

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and then pray out something else or

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some other type of things.

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I was just curious, like, I wonder,

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I mean, that's, so I was like, what does that classify as?

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Yeah, and seeing that happen to me,

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remember I shared the story about

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when I was driving in the car

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and my wife was in the helicopter

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and I'm praying and praying, you know,

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and then like I said, just as anointing

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came on me, praying all of a sudden

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to find myself in the helicopter.

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I could describe you the inside of the helicopter.

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I would have liked to look at it in the natural

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because I saw it.

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And I ministered to my wife in the helicopter.

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And so I'm praying, but then all of a sudden,

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I find, I found myself

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and it was almost like I didn't have anything to do with it.

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I did because I was yielded, yes,

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because he doesn't just take you over,

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but all of a sudden I started to sing.

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Now you got to know this much.

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I'm a terrible singer.

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You don't want to hear me sing.

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Even when I sing in a crowd,

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I sing quietly because I'm terrible.

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But I was singing in my car

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and I'm just like listening

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to what's coming out of my mouth

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and it was the most beautiful singing

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I've ever heard in my life.

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And so it was different.

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I moved from that place

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where I was just interceding,

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you know, from my wife.

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I moved into that place where all of a sudden

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I'm just, I'm singing and worshiping the Lord.

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And so, yes, it can work that way

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because you're yielded to God

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and different things can happen.

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I want to hear from a man that I've watched do this.

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Dave, how does it work for you?

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There's several different types

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of things that you guys have hit on it.

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The one that comes to my heart

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most of the time is very emotional

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is just feeling what they're feeling.

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I think that's the one that gets me.

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In fact, that's, yeah.

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And the dry eve thing is always there.

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I mean, if I have kind of learned to,

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yeah, you know,

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but there's sometimes when it's like

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you just feel what they're feeling

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and then the Holy Spirit will be ministering.

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Sometimes he'll give me what to say

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or even what to do

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or that type of thing in the midst of it.

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Or sometimes he'll just let me feel

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the whole thing through for a while

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and then it'll just come in a wave

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where it's just so strong

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and it just collapses you.

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But it's that giving of yourself

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over to it that's so essential

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because you can hold it.

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You can stay there and not...

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You can cut it off, so to speak.

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Stop it and you know you're doing it.

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So it's that almost submission

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that tells you,

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no, you got to go.

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Holy Spirit's there.

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He's going to do what he's going to do now

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and you aren't going to be able

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to wait and do this later.

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You know, it's that whole thing of

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this is now and you got to go with it.

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And it's amazing what he does.

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And afterwards the peace

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or the feeling like you that

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you've seen him do a difference

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in someone is amazing.

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So it's that given over but it's that

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one thing too that came to my mind

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when you guys were talking was

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is that praying at home

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sometimes we just think it's

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we're not...

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How do I say this?

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You're not doing anything at home

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but you know many times

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at home when I was doing it

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and you get the list of things

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get the distraction whatever.

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Sometimes I'll get

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when I'm done I'll get things

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that he'll tell me like

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you need to fix this

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or you need to

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so-and-so is doing this in our home

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and you need to stop it

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we do foster care

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you know or sometimes you'll wake me

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and I'll start praying

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and then get you know

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this is going on in your house

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do you know that?

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Yeah.

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So it's not all just

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a lot of times we think

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intercession is for other people

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but a lot of times

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through intercession

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you'll get direction

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of what's going on

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and what you need to do.

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Yep, very true.

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I just want to tell you

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Abby I have had the same things

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with singing

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singing things out

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and then also dancing

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or certain kind of things

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where you're kind of acting

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something out.

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Right.

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And then the contraction thing

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is a very much a

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birthing kind of thing.

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Yeah.

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Is it similar?

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Yeah, it's the contraction

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is just huge

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double the over

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and it's like

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you guys are talking about

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dry heaves

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like it coming out that

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but I think for the woman

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it's that whole

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bearing down.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Well the Bible calls it

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travail.

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Yeah.

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Labor.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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I'll hang on to this one

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he'll come.

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But you know I think

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I think a lot of stuff

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you know like

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we give ourselves to that

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those places of prayer

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we don't we don't even know

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what's happening.

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You could be praying for someone

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you know on the other side

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of the world some place

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and you'll never know

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you know I hope

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it would be fun anyway

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I think I may not care

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when I get there

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but when I get to heaven

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I think it'd be kind of fun

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to be able to hear

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some of the stories

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and you know

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you know because you prayed

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you know this didn't happen

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in my life when I was

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rescued so forth and so on

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and because it could be

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I mean there could be things

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anywhere

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and and then it can be very

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personal to you

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it could be real close to home

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I just want to tell you

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when I get it

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I get it like

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I see a vision

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and it feels like I'm going

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to puke but it also feels

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like someone's sitting on my

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chest

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and it burns from my stomach

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to my throat

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and it feels like I said

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just a

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it's more than just

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It's just a dry heave, but I get really hot and like sometimes I'll like sweat and it just depends on what I'm praying for or who I'm praying for or I'll feel the pain that they feel like if they have pains wherever in their body, I'll feel that pain wherever it's at and then when I'm done it will dissipate and then I'll feel like it's over but I know when to stop you just feel that that like a switch that says okay you're done.

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It just lifts. So you have a strong physical reaction? Yes, very strong and like I said sometimes I have to bench over but even when I do that I sometimes fall to my knees because I just cannot stand anymore.

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That's interesting.

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Way back there.

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I've had the experience that most of us have described about like the groaning and like the gut wrenching contraction experience which by the way feels really soon to be talking about since he's not even two weeks old.

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But I've also had a different flavor of it where it's been more of like the anger of God where it's not just like an emotional experience of like all this needs to change and almost like a grieving or a groaning but just like this red hot anger that all of a sudden like this needs to stop and this needs to stop now.

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And I've had that happen both when I've prayed for people like over them as well as when I have like been interceding at home as well.

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So I just wanted to mention that since that one hasn't been mentioned.

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Yeah, and that can be there because there can be judgment. There can be an anger side.

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You know, even the Bible talks about you can be angry and don't sin.

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See, there can be a righteous anger and sometimes you can experience that with God.

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And that's kind of what happened even when I shared about that corporation because I was praying that day and it really wasn't anger thing.

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It was where God said they need to judge something. See in that corporation if they don't, you know, they're going to fold there.

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So it was an angry type thing. It was just judgment. It was anger. And that can't happen.

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You know, that reminded us. I thought it didn't happen through intercession, but I had the same thing happen in Colorado.

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We had a foster girl living with us and there was some kind of bill. It was minor. It was $15, $20, something like that.

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That the state was supposed to pay on her health insurance or she had gone to the doctor and the state didn't pay it.

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And I thought, well, it's not my responsibility. It's not my issue.

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Well, it ended up going to collections. And so this collections guy called me and said, you owe $21.33 or whatever.

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And it's like, why aren't you paying this? And I said, well, it's not my responsibility.

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I don't want to hear your blankety blank excuses. I hear them all day long from people just like you who don't want to step up.

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And I said, just let me explain. I don't even want to hear it. I tried to explain. He'd put me on hold.

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And then come back and say, you ready to pay now? And blah, blah, blah. Just harassed me to no end.

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And I got off the phone and it just welled up. I wasn't interceding. It just welled up inside of me.

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That should never happen to anybody. So in the name of Jesus, I commend that business to go under.

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If he doesn't repent, that business goes under because nobody should be treated like that.

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And he was one of the owners. So I commanded it to go under. Never thought about it again.

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Just no big deal. Went on in life. It was a year later. I never did pay the bill.

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And somebody from the state got a hold of me and said, what's the deal with this bill? Why aren't you paying this bill?

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It's so little. We know you can afford it. I want to pay it. So I explained it to him.

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And they said, oh, we didn't understand that. Well, let me fix that and the state will take care of it.

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I said, so whatever happened with, you know, I got reamed out from this guy in this company that he said, let me look it up.

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And he looked it up and he said, oh, yeah, that was such and such company. He said, it's kind of interesting.

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He said, they just went out of business about three months ago. And I said, really?

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I said, well, I was talking to one of the owners and I said, I don't know how big a company it was, but he got all upset.

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He said, no, this was pretty big company. They had over 200 employees.

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So apparently God started working with him and he got hard on the whole thing and God just shut him down.

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And it really had nothing to do with me. I said, God, there's no reason that anybody on earth should be treated like that.

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Shut that down. And he did. It was like, wow.

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Then I felt a little guilty because 200 people had to go find another job.

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But apparently it was okay because I didn't do it.

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Anybody else got anything? Are we done?

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Right up front here and in the back. We'll go front first and then back.

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Just what the Lord put on my heart is more of a story and some of you know it, some of you won't.

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But it's such a story of intercession and I thought about what was being taught earlier about generations.

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There's two little ladies that prayed on an island, the British Isles in the Hebrides.

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Two little aunties and they prayed for a long time, interceded.

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And all of a sudden, literally, revival broke out.

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And the Lord sent a pastor and they even questioned this pastor, are you right with God?

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And so they dealt with him. And there was a young man in that revival that they just sometimes find him on the side of the road just on his knees praying.

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And his name was Donald. And Donald became a huge part of that revival.

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Many people were saved, bars were closed down, life changed.

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And those two little aunties, their nephew is now Donald Trump in the White House.

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They had prayed for generations.

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And that Bible that they had during that revival was given to Donald Trump's mother and it's now in the White House.

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That's intercession.

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So the Donald on the side of the road was Donald Trump?

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No, but Donald Trump was named after that Donald out of that revival.

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Okay, we'll do Kevin yet and then we'll be done.

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I had a question about, something caught my attention when you were talking.

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So you said, you pray in tongues, you're in your flesh for a better word, but you're just, you're praying with your mind.

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And then you get, I can't remember the word you said, but you start working in conjunction with the Holy Spirit.

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And it flows and it goes.

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And then it sounds like what we're talking about with the intercession, the groaning, it sounds like a progression of that.

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So is there, I'm assuming it doesn't always go all the way to the groaning intercession.

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Can you sit in that middle part where you're just praying in agreement and in conjunction with the Holy Spirit

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and it never needs to go or wants to go full to the full groaning intercession?

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Yeah, I mean, well, when I, you can just pray in tongues now, it's not coming from your mind, it is coming from your heart.

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It's the Holy Ghost giving you the utterance, but it's just your language.

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You know, because I don't like to over spiritualize just the normal praying in tongues things,

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because it's something we got, we got this language when we got into the kingdom and got filled with the Holy Ghost.

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All right, we got a language to speak in this new kingdom.

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So I can speak in that anytime I want.

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I can talk to God, I do it just as my own will.

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I just choose, I can just start to speak in tongues and communicate with God, fellowship, worship him in tongues.

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I can, I just use my language.

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And then, and so I can be in that place of prayer.

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And yes, when it comes to praying for others, I mean, I can, I can pray just with my understanding.

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There might be situations I know that in their life, I can pray and speak the word.

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In that situation, I can use my mind in prayer and I can join in with praying in tongues.

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And all that is effectual.

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It, I mean, it's not like it's not accomplishing anything,

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but there is that place that we can get to that's a deeper realm of prayer

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in which the Holy Spirit just really takes hold together with us now.

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And that's when these groanings come and different things begin to happen.

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And that's where the Bible says that's the prayer that just makes tremendous power available.

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It doesn't mean that our other prayers are not effectual.

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It just means that there's a place that we can get to that's just, it's just got more power.

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And it changes things in greater ways than just me praying through my understanding

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or even just casually speaking in tongues.

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Does that make sense?

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And does it always have to get to that place?

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No.

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No.

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Because I can go throughout my day praying in tongues and doing things.

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I can, I can be mowing the lawn in praying tongues if I want.

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It doesn't always have to get to that place. No.

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But I, I guess kind of the part I was trying to emphasize is that

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see the church needs to have more people praying in that deeper realm.

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Yes.

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So do you, I've always said this.

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Do you agree with this?

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To go from, you know, we can be praying in tongues kind of like it's just running in the background, you know,

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versus a legitimate, hey, I'm going to pray about this now, I'm praying my spirit language,

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when it trans, when it moves from that to intercession, that's done by the will of the spirit.

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We don't choose that.

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He makes that happen for us.

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And you describe it as, well, he gets, he gets in the oak with us, so to speak.

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And he chooses that.

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We can't choose that. When we choose to go there, it's flesh.

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It's just an operation of the flesh.

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And like I said, people have tried that through the years.

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You know, well, we're all just going to get together and we're all just going to start groaning.

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Well, no, it's just a flesh thing.

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It has to be, it's almost like a prophecy or a message in tongues or something.

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It comes by the will of the spirit.

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And when it comes, you go with it.

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And if it doesn't come, well, don't try to make it up because now you're getting weird.

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You know, kind of thing.

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Alright, cool. Thank you for staying.

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Thank you for the Q&A.

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Now we've got something to work towards and move deeper into.

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Be blessed. Have an awesome day.