This morning I was going to finish a series on tithing. That's coming yet, I guess.
We'll wait till he's building his house. Some point in there I'll get it done.
But we're going to... the more people came talking to me, and I want to hear from some of them this morning.
So we're not going to go through this little hand outline by line. It's an outline.
I think it gives you enough that it'll jog your memory.
But I want to go through this enough to make sure we're on the same page.
And it wasn't an event. It's something that's supposed to take us forward.
So at the top there you had the question that was given as a theme to all the speakers.
The last day's church, living in the Laodicean church, what do they see we need?
There you go. I like that better. Good job, guys.
The weekend prayer fasting leading up to the meetings.
By the way, had we not had that, I don't think the meetings would have went well.
There were some things that we needed to deal with that prepared the way for the Lord.
And had we not dealt with them, I'm not sure it would have went as well.
One of the things that obviously was the Laodicean church attitude,
which most of the speakers dealt with that in some way, shape, or form.
In a nutshell, that attitude is, I'm good the way I am.
I'm fine with God.
That is the Laodicean church attitude.
That is the attitude of the church in our age.
It's that last church before things really changed.
That's the age we're living in.
And that is the attitude of most American Christians.
I am good the way I am. I'm good with God.
I don't need to change anything. I'm fine.
That means you're already deceived.
Remember Jesus said, they asked him what's the sign of the last time.
The first thing he said, watch out for deception.
The Laodicean attitude is an outward sign of inner deception.
We are never good to where we can just let off and go.
I'll just coast like this. I'm great shape with God.
Never. We are always supposed to be growing.
Always supposed to be changing.
So we dealt with that some and then the Lord had spoken to me
also about attitudes with people within the church
and taking communion that way.
And it's pretty much self-explanatory there.
That needed to be dealt with. That need to be repented of.
And some of these things were groundwork.
So I want to hit a few things here on the bottom of page one.
Let her see Monday, the first prayer meeting we had,
we had the mic set up here at the front
and people were coming up and praying
and there was nothing that they were saying that was wrong.
They weren't praying wrong, nothing was wrong.
They were praying for the week of meetings
and that God would come and that his spirit would move
and that people's lives would be changed and da da da da.
And while they were praying, the Holy Spirit started asking me this
and every statement they made, he kept asking me,
why? Why should I?
You know, Lord, come and move. Why?
Lord, we're asking you move in power. Why should I?
He kept asking me that question,
which is like raising a red flag.
We're missing something.
Something's off.
Not that we're praying incorrect things,
but something's off.
And if you were here, he let us into that humble ourselves thing
which again goes into repentance.
Folks, if we're not repenting,
I'll give you a little elbow room.
If we're not repenting of something on a weekly basis,
we're out of God.
There is nobody here, nobody there
who has got their life so exactly together with God
that we're not doing anything wrong ever.
There's stuff we're doing wrong all the time.
And when the Holy Spirit touches us and says,
you need to deal with that, the first thing we need to do is repent
and say, oh man, I see it.
Yep, that's wrong. I need to go a different direction.
That also was part of the preparation for the meetings.
So on Tuesday we dealt with have we lost the attitude of repentance?
This is on page two. Have we picked up the Leia to see an attitude
which says we're good, measuring ourselves only with the physical?
And there's the scripture for it. We're doing fine.
We've got a house. We've got money for going out to eat.
We've got health insurance. Our cars are paid for.
I've prospered. I'm doing good.
You can't measure spiritual things by the physical.
Can't do it.
In fact, Paul said in 1 Timothy 6, he said financial gain
is not a proof of godliness.
Or some of the biggest drug dealers on earth would be the most godly.
Because man, they're dealing with, I mean, the cartel.
Hundreds of millions of dollars. These people must be really godly.
Financial gain is not proof. We're godly.
You don't measure the spiritual by the physical.
Our spiritual condition is measured primarily, like Mary said this morning.
If there was only one prayer that God would say,
I'll give you this type of prayer out of the 15 or 16 types that we've talked about.
If there's only give you one, which would you pick?
She said repentance. Absolutely.
That's where I would go too.
Because out of that changes, that changes our life, that changes the world.
So I knew we were missing something because he kept asking the question.
And so we dealt with some things.
Friday we came back and we gave those four points of prayer and fasting.
Those four need to be ongoing, not only this year,
but probably for the rest of our lives.
Take personal inventory of what's going on in your life
and repent of the things that are wrong.
Change your mind, change your behavior, go the other direction.
Get in step with God rather than staying out of step.
We need to do that corporately.
And we always need to ask the Lord,
what do we need to do so that you can move freely among us?
Number three there.
What do you need from us to make way for the Lord?
And then we have to guard ourselves against the laity and attitude,
because it's heavy.
It's that unlawlessness.
It is heavy in our culture.
And if we're not continually on guard to it, we get sucked into it.
It's that we're going to talk about that deception spirit here in a bit,
but I want to just bring it up right now.
So I am not rooting for or against that Ms. Good,
who got killed by ICE this last week.
But if we don't stay sharp in our discerning,
we will believe what the corrupt media puts out there.
So I just want to give you an example.
After it happened, and it was tragic, it's too bad it did happen,
wish it wouldn't happen, but it did happen.
After it happened, for the next, it was like two days.
I told Mary, I said,
I wonder if they're ever going to pick up on this,
or they're just going to paint the story the direction they wanted painted.
They didn't start at the beginning of the story.
They started with her driving away in the gunshots.
She was just trying to drive away,
and a DEI officer shot her and killed her.
See that is pure deception.
Tell the whole story.
Why did they walk up to her vehicle?
Because she was breaking the law.
She was parked sideways in the street trying to block them
so they couldn't go down the street.
Had she not, I mean, try it sometime on 95, right in Cambridge.
Just turn sideways in a street there and say,
this is where I want to park for a while.
See how long it takes till you get a ticket.
You're breaking the law.
Had she not decided to take the authority,
which wasn't given to her,
which is, I'm going to make these agents stop what they're doing.
Well, who on God's green earth do you think you are?
Who gave you the authority to shut them down?
See, so the attitude was one of out of balance.
So then we break the law to stop them.
That's where the story started.
Had she stayed law-abiding, she'd be alive today.
Well, it's all their fault. No, actually, the story started back over here.
It'd be like when I was little and I stole my first pair of gloves from the drugstore in town.
Some people learn slower than others.
And my parents found out, because you're dumb as a kid.
You know, you're so proud of your new gloves.
You walk right into the house with your brand new gloves.
And mom said, where'd you get the gloves?
Well, now I knew I was had.
But it's too late.
So dad made me go back the next morning.
He made a trip to town with me and made me apologize.
Give the drugstore their gloves back.
Or he said, since he wore them already,
he said, I'll pay for them and then he's going to have to work it off.
Well, they were nice enough to take them back.
And I had to apologize.
Okay?
So now I could have started the story
as a little kid right there when I was telling my friends.
Do you know what my mean dad did?
He drugged me into the drugstore
and treated me like some kind of criminal.
He made me apologize to the drugstore owner
and I really didn't do anything wrong.
There is our present-day news media.
It's deceitful.
We're surrounded with deceit.
We're surrounded with lawlessness.
We have to stay on guard
because that is part of the Laodicean spirit
that tries to get into the church.
Okay, jump over to page three.
So Brad spoke the first Sunday morning
and I dealt with the attitudes thing
out of 1 Corinthians 11.
We dealt with that first and then Brad spoke
and he spoke of the necessity
of the future church continuing
to flow in spirit-led intercession.
Romans 826 type of intercession.
He said if this doesn't continue to happen,
it will be lost in the church.
This concept or this thought
goes through our entire vision book
for word of life.
It's always about the generations
that are following us.
It's for us, but we have to help them
get on board with this.
There's prophecies of 07 through 09.
You can find them online.
The one specifically of 516, May 16th, 2009.
If you go to page eight, the top of it,
quoted what Brad said word for word
back in 2009.
If we don't do this, it will be lost
to the next generation.
So this has been kind of a theme.
That caught my attention right away.
This has been kind of a theme.
And he sees the necessity,
and we're going to talk about this a little deeper,
but he sees the necessity
of the church flowing with the spirit.
The full flow of the Holy Spirit
in the church is crucial
for a last day's church.
It's crucial.
It's why the spirit was given
was for the last days.
If we don't have that happening,
we're going to get out of step with God.
It's absolutely crucial,
and there's various aspects of it,
but he dealt with the intercession aspect.
That's why the Holy Spirit
and the fullness of the Holy Spirit
is so under attack,
because it's so crucial for our time.
Now, different religions will say,
well, it passed away.
All that stuff with the Holy Spirit passed away.
That's why we're just trying to straighten out
the few who got their head screwed on backwards.
It's like, no, actually,
I have scripture that says it didn't pass away.
Acts 2 verse 39 promises it to me.
And to any generation is following me.
It has not passed away,
and those who say it has,
because you don't have one scripture that says
it will cease or stop at some point.
There's not one.
They always reach for 1 Corinthians 12, 13, 4.
It's in 13, I think.
That knowledge will pass away,
and prophecy will pass away,
and all this stuff will pass away.
When perfection comes.
Well, I'll tell you what.
If we're living in perfection, God help us.
But I mean, read the whole verse.
When perfection comes, knowledge will pass away.
Has knowledge passed away?
It's increasing quicker now than it ever has in human history.
So that scripture, you're taking it out of context.
You're making it say something it does not say.
It's, we're not there yet.
There's coming a time, but we're not there yet.
So his concern was that
Brian Holly, Monday night,
the church needs leaders,
and the church needs people who will follow the leaders.
Boy, didn't that sound like Brad the following Sunday morning?
They were saying the same thing,
just looking at the cow from two different sides.
God needs people who will work,
not lazy Christians.
So I'm going to throw something in here,
because we're trying to step up to a new realm.
Okay?
So if you want to see if you were in it,
go back and look at the video.
But remember when Pastor Igor said
the Lord is trying to draw people in
to help Pastor Mary at TBO and at Red Lake.
Get out and dance behind her.
She had about 10, 12 people behind her in that line.
That's awesome.
But don't quit after one week, after one month.
That's the track history.
Oh, we're with you.
Oh, God, I didn't think it'd be this hard.
I think I'll just back off of that.
Well, see, either you miss God at the beginning
or you're missing God now, but you miss God.
Either he never asked you to follow,
or you're giving in to the flesh and you're quitting.
Either way.
So when Brian said,
we need people who are willing to follow
and not be lazy.
Wow.
Couldn't have said that any better.
You know, I had someone tell me that...
I'm just going to call it out.
Don't tell her I said anything.
Someone was...
Kristen, Jesse's wife,
ran the nursery most of the week.
Not all the week, but most of the week.
And she had people coming to her,
thanking her for doing it.
It's so awesome you're doing this
because I want to be in the service.
And she said,
I want to be in the service too.
I would like to be in the prayer lines.
I would like to be over here
with all the action.
But if I'm not doing my job,
you can't be over there.
Why do we have so few helpers
with nursery and children's department?
Well, because I want to be in the service.
How old are you in the Lord?
How many years have you been saved?
Well, about 95.
He's got to pick a number that's bigger than most of us here.
So you've been living for the Lord that long,
and you've never overcome your flesh enough
to step up and serve.
You just sit and soak like a sponge yet.
Brian called it out. You know what that is?
You're lazy.
I'm just quoting him. Don't get mad at me.
That's laziness.
Is there a time to grow?
Is there a time to mature in the things of God? Absolutely.
Is there a time to get off our widening duff
and do something?
Absolutely.
That wasn't, that was, you were using verbal judo there.
You know, said that very nice.
He said this will be a house of worship and intercession.
Goes back to what Brad said Sunday morning.
Letter D on page three.
The last days church needs to be passionate about Jesus.
Laodicean church, lukewarm means tepid,
lacking in passion, force, or zest.
Exactly what I said when I started this.
We need to be passionate about God, including in our worship.
And repent, return to passion for God.
Don't get tepid. Don't get lukewarm.
Don't get, well, I don't see where I got to get.
I don't see where God would lead me to do anything different
than I've done for the last 95 years.
Yeah, you're lukewarm.
He's always going to try to pull you further
so the flesh dies more.
I've never raised my hands in church and I never planned to.
You're lukewarm. You're a laodicean church person.
And you're probably living in deception in many areas of your life
because you're refusing to submit and grow.
Is that too plain?
Then that night, after Brian was done,
and I'm going to spend a little time on this part,
Felicia shared her night vision about a demon of deceit
and she called it a dream at the time
and I renamed it as a night vision
because it doesn't really need any interpretation.
That's a vision.
Dreams need interpretation.
It has one spot where there was a dream flavor to it.
God will do that sometimes.
He'll give you a dream that needs interpretation
except for this one spot. It's just like a vision.
He just says it the way it is.
Or vice versa and that happened here.
But for a second time, I won't read through the vision.
It's on page number four.
It's at the top and explains the whole thing.
And in a nutshell, the Lord showed her
that there was a spirit of deceit sitting in the seat
in this sanctuary right where Kim is sitting.
Nobody was here. She was the only one here.
She went over to deal with it
and it explains that a little bit.
And then after she saw what was there
at the bottom of page four, I'll read this part.
The Lord told her, he said, this is the plan of the enemy.
It is to take true religion and make it worthless.
Well, how does he do that?
Well, we'll address that here in a bit.
So we'll come back to that, but he does answer it right there also.
It is to twist my words against me
and to twist my words against my chosen ones.
That is, again, the approach of this age.
It's in culture. It's in the news media.
It's in everything.
To take what somebody says and twist it
so it looks like something different.
It says something different.
We're surrounded with it.
Point out what's going on.
Point it out, the liar and deceiver has no place amongst my people.
He must be stopped at all costs.
And you are just the people to do this.
Why us?
We'll touch that in a bit also.
It comes out of Romans 9.
Point him out, call him out on the floor
for he is a deceiver and a liar
and he has deceived many of my people,
which means he's working on some of us here.
Listen carefully for what I'm about to tell you.
Do not take this lightly for it is not a light matter.
He comes even to deceive my most holy ones
that are precious to me.
He comes to deceive them and turn them against me
to stop the change that is coming
that is on the horizon.
Well, in my mind,
the big thing that we're looking for on the horizon
is the outpouring of the Spirit.
So if he's going to try to stop
the outpouring of the Spirit,
he wants to mess with the Spirit.
Holy Spirit.
He wants to mess with that.
And he wants to deceive us somehow.
Top page 5.
Shut him down now while there is still a chance
before he speaks to any more of my people.
Shut him down, call him out.
You know his name, he is called deceiver
for he comes to deceive.
The time is now to stop him
before he turns those against me
whom I loved.
So she asked, Lord, what is the deception?
He said, you know it, for it looks like face.
But it denies me of my power.
Didn't Paul talk about that?
In the last days,
you're going to have people who look like they have faith
but they deny the power of God.
It rank...
It denies me of my power rank
and it ranks people and things.
Rank is another way to say label.
It labels people.
And humans love to agree with that.
That's why we have all these different denominations
and religions.
Because you can, you know,
if it says this on the door, chances are really good,
they're going to believe this realm
and they're not going to believe that realm.
I mean, they're labeled, they're ranked.
It's like, in God's eyes,
it's not so much of a label.
In God's eyes, it's a rank of authority.
Because if you don't believe
in some of the things God has available,
you won't operate in them.
So you're going to be of lower rank in his kingdom
because you're of less use.
Does that make any sense?
That's why he'd use the word rank.
He says, get rid of it, get rid of this spirit.
I will show you in my word
and then he quoted a scripture there for her.
So she talked to me about that on Sunday.
She got this and then related to me on Sunday,
which was the fourth.
No, two weeks ago Sunday, the beginning of the meetings.
So I thought, well, this is very important.
I need to pay attention to this.
So I started praying about it
and on Monday the Lord talked to me about it.
He said, one thing you need to do
is to counteract this deceitful spirit.
And what it's trying to accomplish
is to begin to call the people to be hungry for,
want, desire, you know, that realm,
the things of the spirit and the supernatural.
We need to call the opposite
of what this spirit is trying to do.
This spirit is lying to them about it.
It's deceiving them.
By faith, we need to begin calling people
to the truth about it.
So let me interject something here.
And I just say this as a word of caution.
When she said it's a spirit of deception,
we usually do with information we get from God.
I don't know, it's humans.
We try to immediately take,
oh, I know how God applies that.
And we'll apply it to something that isn't God at all.
He never meant it for that, wasn't about that,
but it fits in our mind.
What's a spirit of deception?
That means there's probably people lying in the church
who are trying to deceive us.
Not what he was talking about.
Well, Pastor Igor, you know,
he says something sometimes makes me wonder.
Could be talking about him.
Now he wasn't talking about him.
And we will get words,
we'll get personal prophecies,
we'll get things said to us,
and we will grab it and apply it,
rather than grab it and say,
God, show me how this applies.
Please learn that lesson.
Because when you operate in the things of the spirit,
things get shown to you or told you,
and if you don't follow that up with God,
how do you want me to apply this truth?
That's when spirit-filled churches get weird.
And we're just weird.
Just sum it up with that word, okay?
So he told us right here,
oh, okay.
So it's trying to stop
the things of the spirit and the supernatural.
It twists the things of the spirit,
like we're showing her in her dream.
So let me make some applications.
He said, one thing you have to do to counteract it,
and we'll go into this a little bit deeper,
is don't agree with it,
but take a stand against it by faith, okay?
So when things of the spirit take place,
if the thoughts go through our mind like,
wow, that's weird.
He's speaking to you.
Or the thought goes through your mind,
yeah, I don't think I need that in my Christian life.
I'm good the way I am. He's speaking to you.
He's trying to deceive you.
If the thought goes through your mind,
anything like, wow,
that could be offensive to people.
He's speaking to you.
Because we're willing to trash the truth of God
not to offend someone.
But who is Jesus?
He's the rock of offense.
He never adjusts to our belief system.
He will offend us if necessary to get our attention
so we adjust our belief system to Him.
Or thoughts go through, you know,
you don't really need that, you know,
that stuff they do.
I don't really need that.
I'm living a really good Christian life
without that stuff.
He's talking to you.
He's deceiving you.
Anything God has supplied we need.
Or He wouldn't have supplied it.
We need it all.
So there's different things that can go through our mind.
Well, I don't know if the Bible really says that.
Careful.
Where is that coming from?
I don't think the Holy Spirit would come to you
and say, well, I don't know.
Maybe you should just throw that out
because I don't know if the Bible says...
the Holy Spirit is the one who brings up the Bible
and says, here's what it says.
So it's not the Holy Spirit talking to us
when we say that.
Or when those thoughts go through our mind.
Or be afraid.
You know, that feeling of fear just rises up in us
because somebody's praying in tongues.
I hope it don't get on me.
You know.
And it just rises up in us.
Careful, that's that spirit.
That's what he's talking about.
So jump over to page number six.
Call the people in the church, the visitors,
the people in the community to be curious
and have a desire for the supernatural
and the things of the Holy Spirit.
To want these things, to want the fullness
of the Spirit to crave these things.
And here is where he corrected me.
By simply accepting the statistics
at face value without coming against them.
See, I know what he was talking about there.
And it's not about people in the church lying.
It's not about some pastor
trying to lead us down the wrong direction.
It's not about you can't trust these people.
They'll try to deceive you. It's none of that.
He said, I am going to take you back to the statistics.
Oh, so I know what he's talking about.
I, Pastor Vernon, am playing into the deceptive spirit's hand
accepting the statistics as final,
rather than taking a stand against it
and by faith calling people out of that deception.
Change your posture to stand more in faith
rather than accepting statistics as final.
Make faith the final thing.
So what in the world is he talking about the statistics?
Go to page 12.
Page 12 to the end of this.
I'm going to go through it real quick
because I want to save time for people to share.
But back in the early 2000s,
when I was really frustrated in Colorado
because of the low number of people
who are interested in the fullness of the spirit
and the supernatural that goes with it,
I thought I'm going to do a study on this
and of course there wasn't as easy then as it is now.
You'll see and hear.
I just punched in two questions to Grock
and it did all my work for me
and gave you all the sources it pulled from and everything.
But it came up with really close the same answer
I came up with back then.
Second paragraph, if you don't accept speaking in tongues
you won't accept the fullness of the moving of the spirit.
The two are inseparably linked.
That is kind of my foundational starting point.
If you don't accept speaking in tongues
you won't accept most of the gifts of the spirit.
They're going to be irrelevant for today.
Words of knowledge, things like that.
If you don't accept speaking in tongues
you're definitely not going to accept intercession.
It's like it's the key link
that opens up a whole realm of the kingdom of God to us.
That's why the spirit and power of the age
the demonic realm, lawlessness, the anti-Christ
anti-annoying spirit, that I mean it's named different ways.
That's why it attacks the things of the spirit so greatly now.
Because the kingdom of darkness, Satan knows
we as Christians desperately need this
to walk out our life correctly.
So let's try to get it away from them.
So you can't just put in third paragraph.
If you simply research how many people in the U.S.
believe in the supernatural it's around 82%.
And it sounds like, oh that's a lot of people
believe in supernatural.
Yeah, the psychics, the people believe in ghost astrology,
paranormal, I mean it's all linked into that.
So I tried to ask the question
in a way that I get something more dealing with
what we're looking for.
First time I asked it I asked it this way.
What is the percentage of Christians in the U.S.
that speak in tongues?
Here's the answer.
The percentage of U.S. Christians who speak in tongues
or even have ever spoken in tongues
is relatively low overall
and varies depending on the survey.
Exact wording, you know, how you word it, etc.
Key findings.
Among all the U.S. adults, Christians,
broad population survey from Barna and Gallup
it's consistent about 7 to 9% of U.S. adults.
This is adults in America, not just Christians,
have ever spoken in tongues.
Okay, so now remember,
when I said I did the research in the early 2000s
it was about 7% is what I came up with.
So it's going to be there,
it's going to be between 7 and 10, 9, 10, 11.
That's what we're finding now.
But here is the point.
Out of 100 Americans,
let's be on the positive side,
7 to 10 of them are interested in what we do here.
90 to 93 are not.
Okay?
So in everyday life, especially, you know,
I went through this first time back in Colorado
and kind of made up my mind,
that made perfect sense to me.
It's like, yeah, well, that makes perfect sense
because there's just very few people
who want the fullness of the Holy Spirit in their life.
Do you know why?
Because that deceptive spirit has done such a good job.
Done such a good job.
To deceive them into believing,
I don't really need that.
I don't know, it seems a little weird.
It seems a little odd.
I don't know.
And it deceives ministers.
It deceives denominations.
It deceives, deceives, deceives.
If you jump to the bottom of page 13,
it says about 7 to 13 percent there.
7 percent among the younger Mosaic Christians,
9 to 13 percent among some of the older groups.
Bottom of the page in charismatic,
Pentecostal, leaning groups,
regular practice is more common.
But these represent only 20,
a third to a half self-identified Pentecostals
will speak in tongues.
But these represent 23 to 25 percent
or about a quarter of the U.S. Christians overall.
So if you've got...
here's what's interesting.
This goes exactly with what Jesus said
in the parable of the Sower.
You've got 100 percent.
25 percent are into this at all.
You've got the seed that's stolen by the devil.
You've got the seed with thorns and pistols.
You've got the seed on rocky ground.
And then you've got the seed that brings fruit to maturity.
You've got four kinds of seeds.
25 percent of Christians are ever going to bring fruit,
even have a chance of bringing fruit in their life to maturity.
And then Jesus broke that down into thirds.
Some will produce 30-fold, some will produce 60-fold,
some will produce 100-fold.
So out of 100 Christians,
one-third of the 25 percent, which is about 8 percent,
are ever going to bring fruit to full maturity.
8 percent.
Only about 7 percent speak in tongues.
Now, do you think it's coincidence
those percentages are so close?
You say, well, I know people who speak in tongues
who are not bringing fruit to maturity.
They're jerks. I know them too.
You know, it's not like...
it's not like just because you speak in tongues,
all of a sudden you've got the corner on maturity.
We still have to grow in our character.
But if we will be willing to submit to the Holy Spirit,
there's a better chance we'll grow.
The one thing, and I'll put it out here,
the 7 percent and the 8 percent,
the one reason many Christians,
much of the population, doesn't want anything to do
with speaking in tongues is because
of what Jesus and James said.
It's after our tongue.
And our tongue, as human beings,
has been set on fire by hell, James says.
And the baptism in the Holy Spirit
is to baptize you with the Holy Spirit.
And what did John announce? Fire.
So what does God want to do?
He wants to replace the fire of hell
that is in everybody's tongue
with the fire of God.
By the Holy Spirit.
Which means we got to change the way we talk.
To change the way we talk,
he has to change the way we think.
To change the way we think,
he has to change our heart.
Let me just be blunt.
93 out of 100 Christians aren't interested
in too much change in their life.
They want to get to heaven,
but don't make me change or submit
or follow on them too much.
I'm not interested.
That's that group.
I don't know.
I don't have a lot of time to dance around the subject here.
I just got to blunt it out.
So page 14,
practicing Christians 7 to 13% higher belief,
actually younger generations,
they're finding are more into this
than older generations.
They're more open to the charismatic
move and God doing things and so forth.
If you go to the bottom of page 14,
so in short, roughly 5 to 15%
of all U.S. Christians have ever,
have likely ever spoken in tongues.
Okay?
That means, because 25% of them
believe in it,
but only 5 to 15% have ever done it,
which means there's people sitting in the churches
who proclaim this, believe this, stand for this,
who are not baptized in the Holy Spirit
with the evidence speaking in tongues.
That's what that's saying.
Jump over to, we'll just sum this part up.
Jump over to page 18.
It says speaking in tongues.
I won't read it all.
Practice second paragraph down.
Only about 3% of Christians who are aware
of spiritual gifts claim speaking in tongues
as one of theirs.
So that's way down.
If you go to the bottom of the third paragraph,
third paragraph starts among millennial Christians.
Millennials actually are more into this
than some of the older generations.
But overall, for all Christians,
regular practice is estimated
at between 5% and 10%.
I said 7%.
5% and 10% of the population
is interested in the flavor
of the gospel we're presenting.
You say, why was that a big issue to you?
When you're trying to get enough people
into the church that you can actually live
and not starve to death,
it becomes an issue.
You're like, what in the world?
Why aren't we growing?
Why do so many people walk through the door,
sit here for a Sunday or two,
and leave and never come back?
Because 93 out of 100 people
don't want the fullness of the Spirit.
You say, why?
Because they've listened to the deceiving Spirit.
Who works not only in every church
and trying to work here,
trying to talk you out of it,
but he works through the world.
So go back to page 6.
I'll try to speed this up and go quick
because you've got the notes.
Here is what it landed on.
He told me this way back then.
He's told me periodically.
Because, don't kid yourself,
the people on this side of the pulpit
are being talked to by that Spirit also.
And if you would just lighten up
on this Holy Spirit full gospel thing,
it would be so much better
because you could influence so many more people
because they wouldn't leave.
So that recycles every so often.
So that is something I have to fight with.
So the way I had resolved it is,
well, it's statistics the way it is.
I mean, it's how I chose to keep my heart
from getting angry, bitter and unforgiving.
It's like, well, 90% plus don't want it.
So when they leave, don't get an attitude with them
because they just don't want it.
It's not on me, it's on them.
They just don't want it.
But inadvertently, I set my face there.
You've heard me say,
if we didn't do the Spirit-filled full gospel thing,
we'd be two, three times our size right now.
You've heard me say that.
Problem is, I was accepting it as a fact in my mind.
And God said, you're believing for the wrong thing.
Of that 93% or 95% or 90% or wherever it lands,
I want all of them in on this.
Amen.
So you need to switch your belief system
from statistics saying, well, that's the way it is.
Nothing we're going to do to change it.
To know as a congregation, as pastors,
we need to start calling these people by face.
They will become interested in this.
They will begin to crave it.
They will begin to long it
before they even know what it is.
They will start wanting more.
So that is a major shift he wanted us to do.
You say, well, why did you stick with it?
I don't have a choice.
Romans 9.
God creates certain vessels to do certain things.
He created me.
He told me in college.
This is a wonderful announcement in college.
You're going into the ministry.
God, anything I need to know,
show me, speak to me.
You know what he tells me?
I've created you for controversy.
Controversy will follow you all your life.
So just get ready for it.
It's like, what?
Can't you give me a better word than that one?
Why?
Why controversy?
Why did he say when you come up here,
you take the stand, you build a church on the word,
and the supernatural?
Why?
Because he always has a voice crying in the wilderness.
This is the way walking in it.
He needs a voice in this area
that will take a stand on spirit-filled Holy Ghost stuff.
And I...
He flat out told me.
He said, you back away from that.
He said, you got nothing to offer me.
That's what I created you for.
And I was like, well, great.
So interestingly enough,
Sally shared something with me this morning
that the Lord told her on Monday.
Can you concisely put that together?
I will try.
Because we're going to run past noon already,
but anybody bored?
Because I think we're going to go a little longer.
We're going to have people sharing things and speaking,
but go ahead.
Well, it started out.
The Lord was talking to me about the sermon.
And how Vern was wondering about the church
and the things that he had come before the Lord
and just asked him to show him on track.
Keep me on track.
Don't let me do this.
Don't...
He just poured his heart out.
So on Monday, the last Monday,
I said to Vern this morning,
I said, you really are kind of a troublemaker.
I said, you sort of had...
You took over my Monday,
but I was teasing.
The Lord said that the church will not be made
with man-made bricks.
It will be made with living stones.
And then he gave me this scripture,
which is in Psalm 20, Verse 7.
Some trust in chariots,
some trust in gold,
some of the verses say horses.
But we, I, you,
will remember the Lord, your God,
the name of your God.
And then the Lord said to me,
Vern will never go down to Egypt
for his source.
And so then we talked some more
about some different things.
Well, then this is what I heard in the spirit.
This was, this was him.
I will be glorified in this work.
I have chosen you to be part of this.
You, I can trust.
You're speaking of me.
He's talking to you about me.
Yes, he's talking.
Okay, just clarifying.
He sort of trusts me every now and then.
Okay, I'm going to start over.
This is what he said.
I will be glorified in this work.
I have chosen you to be part of this.
You, I can trust.
As you have been tested,
tried and prepared to be one through whom I work.
For you to do anything else,
except that which I have said would be...
Anathema.
Anathema.
Read that last sentence again.
For you to do anything else,
except that which I have said would be anathema.
Okay.
No, I'm not done.
Oh, you're going to go further?
Yes.
Pardon me?
Well, I have to, I have to.
Go ahead.
Well, I didn't know what that meant,
so I looked it up.
And Vern can talk about that.
Then the thing that he had said about Vern,
he said, Vern is solicitous.
And I thought, what's that?
Is that a word?
Is that even a word?
I thought, oh God, you're not playing a game with me here.
So I wrote down what I thought it would be spelled like,
and then I had to look.
And he said, the reason for this,
solicitous, to be solicitous,
is because you care about the welfare of others.
Okay.
So the part that stuck out to me,
and it's all great,
but the part that really stuck out to me
is if he chooses to do anything else,
it will be anathema.
Anybody know what anathema means?
Read it to us.
A formal curtain.
Well, I have two of them.
The first one is something or someone that...
Here, hang on.
They're not going to hear you online.
Let me give you the mic.
Anathema.
Okay.
So I'm going to butcher it.
First one is someone or something or someone
that one vehemently dislikes.
The second one is a formal curse
by a pope or council of the church,
excommunicating a person,
denouncing a person or denouncing a doctrine.
Read the first one again.
And stop.
Something or someone that one vehemently...
vehemently dislikes.
So if I don't do what he's asking me to do,
I will be anathema to God.
Someone vehemently dislikes.
And the second definition is...
It's where they get...
The word anathema is where they get
the pope excommunicating people.
They kick you out.
You're of no use to him.
You cross the line, you're of no use. Get up.
So if you want to know...
It goes back to Romans 9.
He creates certain pottery for certain uses.
And what gives the pottery right
to speak back to the creator and say,
I ain't doing that.
It's in our vision book.
One of the main things he wants us doing here
is taking a stand on the Holy Spirit,
the supernatural, the full gospel,
everything that comes with that realm.
And he had told me basically what he told her years ago.
He said, and if you don't want to, that's fine,
but you're of no use to me.
So that's what I created you for.
And he tells her, and if he, by the way,
just remind him, she had no idea
that he told me that.
Just remind him, if he doesn't want to do it my way,
I will vehemently disapprove.
And I'll even kick him out.
I'll excommunicate him.
I'll get your attention.
So he said, shift your face
to believe that more of the 93%
get worked on by the Spirit of God.
Rather than just accepting the statistic
as that's the way it is.
Then, interestingly enough,
we'll go through this real quick.
Jennifer, page six, number four, on Tuesday,
guard your faith.
In the last days, the devil and the culture
will be after your faith.
It's like you have no clue
what you just said about the Spirit of deceit
who's trying to attack our faith,
get us to stop believing in what the Spirit wants,
to go lukewarm, guard your faith.
And she emphasized humility
and not becoming offended.
Amanda, on Wednesday,
when we become fishers of men,
God will give us provision.
God sends our provision to where we're supposed to be at,
not where we're currently at.
Okay, so I'm going to apply this real quickly, two ways.
God will provide for that new building
because that's where he's sending us.
If we refuse to do that,
we will get to a point where we'll struggle
to pay our bills in this building.
Because he's not going to provide for here
because he wants us there.
And when we go there, the provision will be for both.
That makes sense?
Okay, so it's not only physical,
but it's spiritual.
Where are we supposed to be at spiritually?
Because if we'll go there, he'll provide for it.
And that's a whole big message, maybe even two,
all by itself, which I won't take time to talk about.
But think about that.
She talked about the valve
and controlling territories,
the physical building,
the call, that whole thing.
Sabrina in here?
Okay.
If she wanders back in,
because she's probably in the four-year with her child,
I would have her share it right here,
but I can have her share it at the end, too.
It deals with the territories and the region.
On Thursday, Amanda Hill kind of just shifted
the same thought over to more spiritual emphasis.
We have to know where we're supposed to go,
where we're supposed to be headed for,
because he will provide for that spot.
And she dwelt more on the spiritual side of that.
Well, then Vito shows up on Friday,
and between Friday and Saturday,
he says, and this is how you accomplish
what God wants you to do.
Well, by now, we have a good idea of what God wants us to do.
He says, you got to get into prayer and intercession,
which that's what Brad started with on Sunday morning.
And there's going to be some trying by fire
between God telling you what to do
and you getting it done.
Let her be.
But for God to join into this realm,
he needs altars built.
The demonic side needs it,
God's side needs it.
It's a principle, it's a spiritual law,
how God set it up. Go page 8.
He says, you need to establish altars at home
in your house.
Pray every day.
And he said, for one hour a day.
Now, this is the easiest thing to do in the world
if you're baptized in the Holy Spirit.
Because that's what he said,
pray in the Spirit one hour a day, minimum.
That's the easiest thing to do.
You just have to train yourself
to let your spirit pray in the background
of what you're doing.
And this is the best example I can think of.
You go to Walmart, you're buying things,
not paying attention to anything.
You come out of Walmart,
you're starting to put your stuff in your car,
and this song is playing in the background.
Where did you pick that up?
And it's just playing back.
And if you'll stop and pay attention,
it's like...
And it's like, where in the world did I come up with that?
You got it in Walmart.
That playing in the background,
if we will train ourselves to let our spirit pray
in tongues in the background,
that can go on 24-7.
We can pray without ceasing, like Paul said.
Because it doesn't take...
When that was playing in the background
and you were pushing your car to the car,
you weren't concentrating on,
I got to keep this song going, because if I don't...
It was just in the background playing,
a subconscious kind of thing.
Praying in tongues, unceasingly,
is the same thing.
The only difference is,
the flesh doesn't like it.
So you've got to train yourself
to make it happen.
Fast once a week,
and give sacrificially financially.
And that's how you set up an altar.
I'm going to jump down to the bottom of the page.
I'll just say there's one thing about Deuteronomy 7.
For those of you that got some deliverance,
that...
There's principles in that section of scripture
you need to learn to stay free.
Read it through, study it.
If you don't get it, come talk to me.
And I will say this.
There's different approaches to deliverance.
That series I put together on
demonic infestation and manifestation.
I said numerous times through that series,
everybody does deliverance differently.
It's just the way it works,
because there's no book in the Bible
that says this, how you do it.
So the Holy Spirit will teach everybody differently,
and they have different approaches.
Since I'm the pastor of this church,
I think I can say, for us,
our goal is to do it like Jesus did it.
Okay? Is that okay?
Good idea.
To do deliverance like Jesus did it?
Yes.
Okay.
So with that in mind,
I was taken back to the late 60s, early 70s,
with the garbage can thing.
That's how the charismatic movement did it.
And they would line up from the church with garbage cans,
because the only way you get a demon out
is somebody has to throw up.
A physical reaction has nothing to do
with the removal of a spirit.
Right.
Now, when a spirit gets stirred up,
you might get sick to your stomach,
and stuff can happen.
I'm not saying it's not possible.
It is possible.
But don't get the mindset that
the only way we know someone got delivered
is if they threw up.
That's stupid.
Because I don't read any place in Scripture
where Jesus had one of the disciples
totin' garbage cans with him.
Because we're going to have a deliverance service,
and everybody's going to be throwing up.
It's not in Scripture.
Do I believe it can happen?
Yeah, I've seen it happen and so forth.
I just don't want it to become the goal here.
Follow me?
Another thing that's not Scripture
is taking a deep breath in
and breathing the Spirit out.
Show me any place in Scripture
where it says that.
It's not in there.
So, I'm not saying
it may not help get the person's mindset.
It's how God taught him.
That's okay. I'm not going to criticize that.
All I'm going to say is
it's not our goal to become like that.
Scripture says Jesus cast them out
with a word.
And a subject.
He just cast them out.
You go.
It didn't take half an hour. It didn't take an hour.
My goals have become like Jesus.
To where I don't have to wear them down,
split them apart in their kingdoms
and groups so I can get enough power over
or I can finally get them out.
You just all gang together
and resist all you want.
But in the name of Jesus, the whole works goes,
and it's gone.
That's my goal.
So, I just wanted to throw that in for free.
Vito on Saturday talked about
building corporate altars
as a church.
And he gave some explanation there
how to do it. And then Brad came back Sunday morning
talked about the corporate anointing,
how leaders have to be brave enough
to follow what God says
and people need to be able to treat
what God says wholly enough
so that the leaders in them follow
because when we disobey
it causes all kinds of problems
and we won't go through that
for a sake of time because we're
running late on time already.
So let me...
I do want to go through some things here.
He did give us marching orders.
It's just all summarized right here.
Here's what we stepped up to
and he wants us to stay there.
Now, when
Jesus shows up
and moves
by his spirit, that's how he does it now.
Supernatural stuff takes place.
I'll just read one scripture to you to confirm that.
And the reason I'm saying this
is because a number of you
had supernatural stuff take place
and this scripture is not
in the PowerPoint so
you don't have to try to find it.
And I want you to share
what happened to you and what you saw.
But Jesus, when John
the Baptist was
wavering
in his faith,
Jesus, are you the one?
Are you not the one?
And he sent... John sent
his disciples and said
Lord, are you the one
or are you not the one?
Verse 22 of Luke chapter 7
Jesus said
He answered and said to them
Go and tell John the things
that you have seen and heard.
The blind see
the lame walk
lepers are cleansed
the deaf hear
the dead are raised
and the poor have the
gospel preached to them.
How do you know
if Jesus is working?
The supernatural
shows up.
If the supernatural
is not showing up, Jesus isn't
doing much.
Anytime Jesus goes to work
by his spirit, the supernatural
shows up.
Well, we had the supernatural show up.
So I want to talk about that some
and not me, but let those
of you who had some things happen
remember on Friday night
before the meetings
I talked about the supernatural
the words specifically, dreams
and visions. We prayed for people
so that language would become active in them.
Matt Ruth
I want you to share
what happened with you
and you don't have to be all proper
you can even sit there and share.
So I had
a dream Saturday night
or vision.
How many dreams and visions have you had in your life?
This is the very first one.
My dreams are generally warfare.
I wake up tired
and fighting for my life
one way or another.
So this is your first godly dream?
This is. And it was so
powerful that when I woke up
I was
broken down.
I felt
the presence so heavy
of the Lord and knew how
sacred what he
showed me was
that it brought me
to tears and
it was something that I just
it's hard to even express
in words.
In this dream
there was people there
around the Lord
and he was in the center and he was a bright light.
There was people
praising him, praying
all of them surrounding him.
Some angels were there.
Some people were speaking in tongues.
Some people were praying, some were singing.
There was people there from our church
specifically
that I was shown.
Not everyone was there.
There was certain people
in the cornerstones
that were
foundational
if you will and
I mean
realistically we probably know
the majority of them just by
their position in church here as well.
Some of them held
a higher regard if you will
of
their powers
that the Lord has given them
and what they do with them as well.
Not squandering them.
A command went out
from the center
from the light.
It all went out as once.
There was various different commands
and it was just like a bright light
or a flash.
Every person received it at the exact
same time so it was like
a bunch of different commands that went out
but each person
received it at the exact same time.
It was only intended
for certain people. Not everybody
got it. It was only for the
true followers, he said.
One of those commands was
that he showed me and there was more
but one of them was
go take back land
and it tied into the
bobbing as well
and
fighting for him.
It showed like
the warrior going out
and taking back that land
and it's a fight that we have to go through
to actually get that.
The second command
was to stay close to him
praying and seeking
him continually
making him that priority
in your life. Not making
time for him but making time
for everything else in your life because
he's the priority.
Bringing believers
into this church
we need the lost
in here. That's our job
in order to build this church
and to do what he has asked of us
it's to bring those people
in.
This was not
a rebuke.
It was more
of now is the time to decide
you have been warned.
Make your choice and follow
it. This church
through the sermons
that most everybody has been
present for over these last
years and months especially
has prepared us and set us up
for what the future
is to bring and what our jobs are.
And like Mary says
once you know you can't unknow.
And so he's given us
that knowledge, that opportunity
to partake in this.
And it is a covenant with him as well
and it's sacred.
And so now is the time
it's like if you turn your back
on me now
it might be the last time that he
allows it.
I was only
there to witness.
I'm not an interceder. I'm not
a prayer warrior.
But the sacredness of what I
was shown
was absolutely overwhelming.
It
it changed me forever
from what I saw and
how real that I knew that
it was it absolutely changed
me.
Why did he give me this? I believe
he knows
my heart and that I truly am trying
my best to seek him
and build this relationship with him.
I believe that's why he actually
gave me that opportunity
to do that.
One thing
he also told me is over the week
because open heavens was amazing.
I mean if you were here for the majority
of it there is not one person
I believe that's in this room
that can say that they didn't feel
the presence of the Lord
like no tomorrow.
I mean like there was
it was overwhelming. It was so powerful
this week. People were changed
people were healed. And one thing
he said was
things that were broken
that seemed impossible before
those chains are going to be broken forever
but not in a point to where
tomorrow then I go
back to it. It's a point to where
it should be done and over with forever.
It's not something that
is wishy-washy.
And he said
it can never be the same.
The only right the devil has
is if we give it back to him.
After those changes
were made, the chains were broken
he said the only right that
the devil has now is if
you give it back to him. So that's where
we're to stand firm in what
we're doing and continue seeking
him. Fasting
praying
intercession is a key
to holding on to that presence.
Now remember, we will be
under attack.
It'll just be blatant
attacks that all of a sudden
your life's turned upside down
and you need to understand that
this is an attack. So you need
to remember that, surrender it to Jesus
because his blood was enough.
And then
this morning he gave me the Scripture
and that was
Hebrews 12
24 to 29
and it says
to Jesus, the mediator of
the New Covenant and the sprinkled blood
that speaks a better word than the blood
of Abel, see to
it that you do not refuse
him who speaks.
If they did not escape
when they refused him who warned
him, warned them on earth
how much less will
we if we turn away
from him who warns
us from heaven.
At that time his voice shook the earth
but now he has
promised once more I will
shake not only the earth but also the heavens.
The words
once more indicate
that removing of what
can be shaken, that is
created things
so that cannot
be shaken will remain.
Therefore since we are receiving
a kingdom that cannot be shaken
let us be thankful and so
worship God acceptably with reverence
and awe for our God
is a consuming fire.
The reason he gave
that to you is to get it to us.
You were the vessel and it would
be great, we've got it on recording
it would be great if
we can get that written out a little
bigger and put it in with
that hand up.
He told us and there's three things
stood out to me.
Not everybody here, let me get away
from the speaker, not everybody here
are true followers
which means we have a problem.
We're not all
on track.
And number two it's about taking
territory.
We'll address that next.
And number three
is this is a
warning.
That's how he talked to the seven churches.
Everybody says oh Jesus
so loving he would never say
anything that would upset us.
You need to read your Bible.
Especially the seven churches.
I mean he flat out warned him.
So
he's telling us
here's what I need you to do but
you don't all have it together yet.
Not all of you are true followers.
That's a problem.
Which we won't go into right now
but that's a problem.
So let me say this because we're going to go on for a bit.
It's noon. This is when we usually stop
or try to.
If you need to go that's fine
but let me say something
to you.
Why are you going?
Why are you leaving?
Well because I usually leave at noon.
Yeah but that's not a reason.
That's a habit.
Yes.
Well I've got things to do.
What are they? Are you going to work?
Because if you're going to work well then you got to go.
Is your house on fire?
It would be good to leave.
Well no
because I want to go home
and have a nice lunch or go out to eat
and then I want to watch football
and you know what you are doing when
you leave on those grounds
you're telling God
you're not as important to me as football.
That's right.
Just saying.
Well
I have it set up with my children
to meet them at 12.30 at the restaurant
and I don't want to be late.
You know you should be late
to some of those meetings
and when you show up
tell them this
God was speaking this morning
and I didn't want to miss what he had to say
in case there was something he needed to say to me.
That will make a greater
impression on your children
for eternity than you showing up
on time to eat.
It goes back to
he's wanting us to step up a level
and stay there.
This is all part of it.
This is all part of it.
Sabrina are you in here? No, there you are.
Can you verbalize
because you've got a baby in your hand
you don't have to read it.
I'm going to see if I can find that map
so I can put it up.
Verbalize what the Lord shared with you
because it goes with what he told
Matt about territory.
On last Sunday
when we were praying for the church leadership
and Brad was praying over them
one of the things he said
was something about beyond the region
and as soon as he said that
I had an open vision
where hopefully he'll pull up the picture
because I managed to manipulate Google Earth
into a perfect representation of what I saw
but it was above the United States
above the region, above the area
and I saw this white light
outlining the shape
and the shape is not super accurate on the picture
because what I saw was like a polygon
that had multiple different
angles and corners and edges
and I
so it was like a white light outlining it
and I saw that there were angels
that were coming and going from
that shape over like a region
and I knew that they were working
and doing something and I was like
okay this looks like a Jacob's ladder thing
am I hallucinating?
what is this?
and so as we were continuing to pray
I kept praying asking the Lord
what is happening here
and it was like there were almost pathways
going out from every single corner
where there would be an angel going
and an angel coming
and an angel going and an angel coming
and again reminded me of Jacob's ladder
but they weren't ascending and descending
they were like going out in all directions
into the earth and as I kept praying
about it the Lord told me that what they were
doing was carrying our influence
and when they would come back
they obviously needed more but another one was right there
going out
and see that goes hand in hand
with another prophecy
we got back in eight or nine
of the corridors of victory
and how he is setting up
the red line is the region that we felt
the Lord gave us in oh nine
that we're supposed to have an influence on
And he showed us a vision of there's like corridors, not on the ground in the sky that go to different locations where they go and where we can come and they go and there's angelic movement in there and so forth.
But that is specifically the red line is the region that we feel we're supposed to be influencing as a church.
Her white line of what she saw just lays over that.
Which is kind of interesting going back to what God told you is you need to go get territory, get your land back.
Take back land. And it's going, yeah, may not be easy, huh?
So with that in mind, can you share what you saw last Sunday?
You might have turned me down just a bit because when I go by those speakers, it wants to speak to me.
So as prayer was happening around the pastor and the staff...
Last Sunday morning.
Last Sunday morning. And everybody came to surround them.
I didn't, I normally joined that.
So what happens to me too when the anointing comes on me?
And it just, two minutes ago.
Just hit you.
Here it is.
Jim calls that getting whacked.
Yeah, I think Mary calls it getting her face blown off.
So, yeah, yep.
So, I'm going to take it back just to touch.
The last several months, it's been the cry of my heart to know...
to know what my job is, to know who I am.
And that answer came two and a half minutes.
Give or take a couple seconds.
Is to be a provider.
Fast forward to Sunday.
That's why this is difficult.
That right there.
Fast forward to Sunday.
Everybody's praying.
I'm sitting over in my not normal spot.
And...
You were on that side, right?
I was on that side.
Okay.
And I didn't feel led to be part of the group.
Which is, again, uncharacteristic.
For whatever reason.
At that juncture.
As prayer is happening, Brad's praying and Dean is starting to intercede.
Yep.
Intercede in the spirit.
And prior to, I mean, within 12, 15 seconds to put a pin in it.
Before he interceded.
Before he interceded.
I was transported just out into a realm, I think I used last Sunday.
I don't know.
It's obviously the spiritual realm.
And as Dean was starting to intercede, I came back to my spot.
Looking at everybody through closed eyes.
An orb had come befell me.
That's what I'm getting now.
And it just kind of moved its way into the crowd.
From the north side?
From the north to the south.
Bending everything around it.
It wasn't for everybody.
It was for one.
And as that orb hit the center.
That's when Dean started his intercession.
Yep.
And there was a battle, which was quickly given over,
which I'm thankful for.
Because I think it could have gone another way.
So yeah, that's where the provision comes in.
To be the provider.
Like the father provided that.
It came through.
Many years ago.
I'll talk about that another time.
Okay, so now we have to broach something that
I absolutely believe that orbs like that can take place.
I've seen them.
Absolutely believe it.
There's numerous things that take place in the spirit realm
that I absolutely believe in.
But because I can't show you definitively from Scripture,
I don't hold them out front.
And say, hey guys, we all got to believe this.
This is great.
This is wonderful.
This is what God's doing.
And it's fine if that happens.
Like Jim is more in that realm.
And he's a paratrooper ministry.
He ministers here.
But he's got his own ministry.
And he sees all kinds of supernatural things
and all kinds of supernatural things happen.
And I believe what he sees and I'm with that.
But as a pastor, when someone says,
can you show me in Scripture where an orb ever did anything?
That's a hard find.
And since it's a hard find, doesn't mean I don't believe in it.
I just am not going to put it to the front of the attention.
And say, oh man, we got to be seeing this stuff all the time.
No.
And the way Matt described it to me is he said it was
like the size of a volleyball or a basketball.
And it was orange.
It was on fire.
And it just floated in.
And as it floated through this realm,
everything around it was bending to make room for it to go through.
Just like he described it.
And when we were here in a group
and when it came into this group, boom,
Dean started interceding.
You say, why would God show us something like that?
Because the church of Jesus Christ, in my opinion,
has become so physically minded,
it's hard for us to even shift into the spiritual side
and say, what?
Could it be?
And contemplate it.
Because there is a lot of supernatural stuff
that happens around us all the time.
We're not aware of.
But it's because we're saying,
God, we just want what you want for us.
So he just picked something out
and he said, here you go.
Like some wise person said a number of weeks back,
here you go, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Which is another way of saying,
think about that, contemplate that.
The psalmist is Sela.
Think about that, contemplate that.
You just had a happening here.
That was absolutely supernatural.
Why? Because when Jesus moves,
supernatural things happen.
It's just the way it works.
So if we want Jesus to move,
supernatural things are going to happen.
Certain ones we'll talk about,
where I can found it in Scripture.
If I can't found it in Scripture,
I might refer to it,
but I'm not going to make a big deal out of it,
unless it gets so obvious I have no choice.
Like for instance, we had one lady
who her whole face was covered with glory dust.
Mary took a picture of it.
She asked, we don't show the picture,
so I'm not going to show the picture.
But her whole face was sparkling.
And first question I asked, you wear makeup?
Do you got sprinkly, sparkly makeup on?
What do you got?
She said, I don't wear makeup.
Whole face was sparkling.
And I walked up to it,
and Mary and her were talking,
and then I looked at Mary,
and now it's starting to come on her face.
I said, okay, back up two steps,
because when glory dust,
which is another thing that's really hard
to substantiate in Scripture,
but it shows up.
So what do you do with it?
So to me, having watched over the years
when it shows up,
it's like a stamp of approval
on something that's happening right now.
And glory dust will show up.
And it's just like, boom, that's me.
Hello, pay attention, that's me.
So I backed up.
I said, okay, ladies,
what were you talking about
in the last two, three minutes?
Well, Mary said, well, so and so came
and said that God's just been on her heart
talking to her about getting the generations
to function together as one.
She said, that's what we were talking about.
And God went, boop.
I approve of that.
Pay attention to that.
But yet it's not one of these things
that we're going to go around proclaiming.
Oh, we're so awesome
that we have glory dust show up.
Actually, he's not approving us.
He's approving what was happening.
And he's saying this whole idea
of we got to get the generations to work together.
Yup, I'm in on that.
That's all he's saying.
So, let me see who's next on the list.
Sally, you said you saw Jesus.
I think it was.
You think it was?
You're going to get long-winded or short-winded?
It was.
I'm playing with you.
Now I'll get back to serious.
That same Sunday over there
where Igor and the pastors sit,
I looked over and I saw
and I believe it was Jesus
but I didn't see his face.
He had his back.
He was going down the aisles,
going to everybody.
I knew he would be coming here.
I didn't see him come here
but I knew he was working the whole sanctuary
and he was collecting old wine skins.
And the minute that he would get one
from someone he would vanish.
And then he said,
never to return again.
Boy, that's powerful.
And it's totally scriptural.
So let me ask, did anybody...
because it happens from time to time.
Did anybody else see Jesus during that week?
Did anybody else see orbs?
Did any of you see angels?
Got a number of people who saw angels.
You want to share your story?
You have a baby?
Oh, you don't?
You can come up here.
I was going to say I'll come back to you,
but what did you see?
So it was a relation to Amanda Hill.
She had prayed earlier about Minneapolis.
Sorry, I think I've got to move.
And then Pastor Mary came up here
and Pastor Vern and they were praying
and I was kind of standing right at that corner
and I looked over there.
They were doing the shofar
and you guys were on the stage.
And as I looked to my right to the corner
where the shofar was,
the first horn that he went and I saw...
He being Gary?
Yeah.
I saw rows and rows and rows.
Like you could not count the amount of angels
dressed in gold and silver.
And they were with like long hair.
You could tell they were not messed around.
And they were just standing there.
And the first horn went
and it was like what was being said by that horn
is we're coming.
And it was talking about the angels.
And it was relation to Minneapolis.
And so Pastor Mary said,
do it again.
And as soon as he did it again,
the angels just went.
And it was just blur, after blur,
after blur, after blur.
There was just so many rows.
And they were going?
They were going.
And the Holy Spirit said,
you get that because you asked for it.
And it was instant.
So if you were here that night
and knew what a man to pray about,
that makes perfect sense to you.
Because the angels were sent to deal with Minneapolis.
Speaking of the shofar,
can you share?
And then we'll open that up a different way too.
But go ahead and share.
When I was sitting here,
I was supposed to be standing according to Igor,
but I was sitting and...
You just lost points with him now?
I don't care.
And the shofar went off
twice over there.
Gary, Lua.
And part of my respect for a shofar
is you stand up when it blows.
So I stood up and then I stood up again.
And all of a sudden right behind me,
it seemed like right two feet behind me,
another shofar took off.
And I popped up.
It turned around. Nothing.
Nobody there.
Not even the usher.
And it just went on forever.
And then I sat down...
In other words, it happened over and over and over and over?
Well, this one was just once, but it was long.
And I sat down.
And a shofar in that corner took off.
That corner took off.
And then way...
Up there?
Way up there.
And you heard all of them?
Yes. And I got tired of standing.
So others have talked to me about the same thing.
And we've said before that...
It was like three years ago I prophesied
that people would start hearing in the spirit realm.
So this set of open heaven meetings,
it was quite a bit.
Now, Gary blew the shofar a couple of times.
And then one night he left.
And it was Friday and Saturday night.
It was the most pronounced.
I heard it once.
And so I looked, where's Gary?
Because I couldn't figure out where it was coming from.
And he was gone.
But how many of you...
How many others of you
heard a shofar blow
and it wasn't Gary blowing his?
See, so it's not just
one or two of us.
That's a dozen of us.
A dozen people.
When Jesus does things,
supernatural happens.
It's the way it is.
And God is trying to show that to us.
Vanessa, are you here?
There you are.
Tell us what you saw.
And I'll stay here so we're away from the speaker.
Got me just reading.
Yeah, you can read it.
So this was on Friday night.
The first night that Vito spoke
to back up a little bit.
That was the night that Pastor Igor
had kind of sent out a message
to some of the team members
of just being mindful that it is
very holy ground.
And immediately I just kind of went into
this role of
repentance and just like Lord
help us be mindful as a congregation.
Okay, so then Vito started
preaching and
he started doing deliverance.
And I just kind of sat over
in my corner over there
and
I guess you could say I was just kind of
taking up in the spirit. I wasn't
super engaged. I was just really
like, okay, Lord, what are you doing
because I could feel him pulling.
So at the beginning of the second
end of worship, it was Pastor Verne
and Heidi, they were up on the stage.
And deliverance was taking place
and some of it had already been accomplished.
And I saw a cube-like object
made of living gold and it
appeared at the front center of the stage
right here by the step. And it had
four legs kind of holding it up
and the legs were thick and they were sturdy.
I saw a slit or an opening
in the back of the object and it looked
like a gold panel was sitting in that slot.
Okay, and it kind of took a break
and then I had a phase two
and at this point the congregation went
into a very holy hush. I mean
everyone was just on their face or on their
knees and no one was talking.
You could just feel the holiness in the room
and it was recognized that we were on holy
ground. From the sanctuary
double back doors, a long white
fabric covered in dancing and glistening
gems glided and swirled
on the aisle. It was very slow
and intentional movement.
The fabric never touched the ground, it just
stayed low. It would sometimes
wrap in circles around itself
and stay in place. Other times
it advanced as it moved.
The movement was extremely slow,
time-wise, but yet it carried
the feeling of being very alive.
And then it took another kind of a break
and then the white fabric
it got to the very front, right by the golden
cube object. And I saw the
panel from the back of this object, it slowly
began to rise.
It had an appearance of a low sitting chair
still all gold
and acted as if it was still alive.
It just transformed once the fabric
approached it.
At that point I wasn't sure why I saw this.
I was just, you know, thank you Lord for
showing me and I knew that the fabric
was like the very essence of God.
Okay, so then Saturday night
Pastor Vito, he
started talking again about altars
and right away Holy Spirit
was like, hey, pay attention to this
and he started showing me. So
Holy Spirit immediately opened
my eyes and ears to the understanding
and revealed that I was seeing an altar
that turned into a throne the night
prior. The altar was placed
because as a corporate body
we were gathered in the name of Jesus.
We had his heart, his values
on our focus.
By being still, we made room
for him to enter and operate without
distraction and without disruption.
As he was moving, he found
us to be an obedient people
the obedience that flows out of
the place of first love.
A congregation of true prayer
and true worship. What was once
an altar is now a throne in which
his manifest present resides.
And that's something that Holy Spirit was like, but you need
to keep note of this, that the panel
that made an altar into a throne
can also make the throne into
an altar. The panel is not
locked in place. As a congregation
we need to remain unified
in prayer, obedience
and worship. If we
lose sight of our response to God's
why should I, as Pastor Ryn mentioned
and begin to corporately gather
for the purpose of self
and about self, then
it starts the backwards process
of the territory that we just
obtained.
That's heavy.
You've got the
altar, which
Vito was speaking about making alters.
You got the altar, which
what did Vito say, if the corporate
anointing will build the alters
that's how you take
territory, the throne.
So what Vito
was talking about he showed her
a picture of it in action
and the essence of God
is drawn to that.
Isn't that amazing?
That's amazing.
Anybody else have any kind
of supernatural stuff?
I know we're going late, but...
So this isn't
supernatural, supernatural,
but just can I confirm
what she...
So Saturday
when
Saturday took place
he said to me
because I was like, wow, this is
like different in here.
And one of the hearts of
like my cry of my heart is
unity within the body.
And I was just like, wow, this is
I mean, he talked about corporate alters
and I was like, whoa, this was established.
And I was like, that is so
holy. And I just knew
I just had a knowing like this is what's taking
I didn't see anything. This is what's taking place.
I was like, wow, we have
to stay in unity.
I mean, as we're singing, I mean
like staying in unity, like not just with your lips
but with your heart.
And just declaring something over and over
and a lot of people get annoyed with saying the same thing over and over.
But I was just like
I just want to confirm that.
That's good. So let's just wrap it up here.
Let me throw one thought out.
A couple thoughts. Number one is
this isn't an event.
This kind of thing
when Jesus operates, when Jesus
moves, this kind of thing happens.
This should be happening regularly.
This is just Jesus showing up and
when he does, when he does things
supernatural things take place.
This should be happening regularly.
So it's not like, well, we had an event.
Wasn't that awesome? Now we got to wait until next year.
No, this should be
the new standard where we operate.
Okay, so keep that in mind.
The other thing I want to point out
and then we're going to pray the prayer.
He said pray that people get hungry
and desire us for the things of the Spirit.
We're going to agree on that before we leave.
First Corinthians
chapter 2 verse 9
For as it is written
I has not seen
nor ear heard
nor have entered
into the heart of man
the things which God has prepared
for those who love him.
And I've
heard that quoted many, many, many times
and it's a good scripture
and most theologians
believe it's talking about
not only things he has prepared
for us on earth, but specifically
heaven and he's gone to prepare a mansion
for us, etc.
And we can't see, we've never heard
we can't even imagine
what this is going to be like.
New King James
has entered in the heart of man
I believe it's NIV and amplified
says you can't imagine
what the things that God has prepared
for those who love him.
But if you go to the next verse
but God
has
revealed
them to us
through his spirit
and then he goes talking about
how the spirit of man searches man
the spirit of God searches God
and how that he works to bring the two together
and so forth.
So now, here's the question
I'm going to ask you, because this should be normal.
How many of you
have seen
glimpses
let's just say glimpses
of the reward in heaven
you're running toward?
There's a few of you
maybe half dozen
which is awesome.
See the average
Christian our goal is
to run away from hell.
We just don't want to go to hell.
We're just trying to run away from hell.
God's goal
is to show us
what we're running
toward.
So we're not always running
looking over our shoulder like am I good enough?
Am I good enough? Am I good enough?
It's whoa.
Look what he has waiting
for me.
I
hasn't seen, ear hasn't heard, it hasn't
even entered into our heart or imagination.
We can't even imagine what God has
prepared, but
God has revealed them to us
through his spirit.
Every Christian
on earth
should be given a glimps
of what they're running
toward.
Once you see a piece
of the reward God has
for you, do you know what
it does? It makes you run harder.
This
thing of running away from hell, well I'm just
going to do the bare minimum just to
stay out of it.
I don't want to get too excited about this God thing, as long as I go to heaven
and I don't go to hell.
Once you see
whoa
look at that.
That will inspire
you
to throw
your entire being
into this.
Not only 7
to 10 out of 100
should be seeing that. It comes by the spirit.
That's what he just said, but the spirit
will reveal it to you.
That's not reserved for
7 out of 100
or 10 out of 100.
That is for all Christians
but it comes by
the spirit. And if we don't
embrace the fullness of the spirit
we'll never be showing these things.
So
out of love and grace and mercy
for the community, for
people, for
us, for whoever
we need to pray that
the deception of
the whole Holy Spirit
thing, that's just a little over the top.
I'm not interested in that.
That breaks.
And that more
and more and more
people are drawn
to the fullness of what
God has.
So that some of these promises
we can all live in them.
Everybody.
So Lord we come into
agreement as we end here.
We are asking that a hunger and a
desire be placed into those
who are born again to those
who are not born again. People who go to church,
people who don't go to church. Everybody.
Everybody that we can possibly
influence, whether it be personally
or whether it be online, there
would be a hunger and a desire
born in them for more.
There's got to be more
to this God thing and what God wants
and has for me than I'm living
in right now. Lord I pray
in Jesus' name that they would become
curious. That
they would begin searching and seeking
for what is it I'm missing.
I'm missing something here. I'm living
short to something. They'd become curious.
There'd be a hunger and a longing.
They would begin thirsting after
what's right. Hunger
and thirst after righteousness.
They will be filled. So Lord
we pray, 2 Corinthians 4
4 that the deceiver, the
mind-binder would be broken
off of them.
And they begin seeing
some things they have not seen
before which brings up questions
which gives the Holy Spirit ability
to speak to them and gives the Holy Spirit
the ability to place
that hunger and that longing
and that desire. Even if they
don't know God at all, they'll come
to know him as Savior, as Lord, as Master
and then it will just go deeper
and deeper and deeper
in Jesus'
name.
We pray that 100
percent
of the people.
100 percent
of the people.
All.
The Holy Spirit was
given for all
people.
That all people
would be pulled into the fullness
of what you're doing
in Jesus' name.
Amen.