Well, we are at war, in case you didn't notice.
Just have to announce that. I do it so casual, because I think I'm never not in it, right?
So it isn't like, you know, it isn't like all of a sudden, oh no, we're at war, and I got to get all hyped.
We're in it on a continual basis. We're fighting the fight of faith.
The biggest war we fight is between our ears, and that's on the mainland.
And controlling that, you know, and getting that under control within ourselves is the power of God really operating so that we can be obedient.
And so in any case, we're going to go back and talk a little bit about the dross this morning.
And then I want to gather in groups and or altogether and pray regarding Red Lake and some other places.
I will tell you that demonic flare up has been a little interesting.
We had some of this when we were in Colorado, you know, we came out one morning and our dog was cut in half, and the pieces laid ritualistically all just perfectly.
So it was kind of like, you know, or there'd be messages left on our answering service from the satanic church, you know, clearing messages,
and they'd be speaking backwards like they do or whatever.
And, you know, I could just keep naming things.
And I want to give glory to that, but I do want to say we're at war.
And so there's something about, though, that churches that have been taken over already by the power of witchcraft that look a form of religion,
but look like there's no witchcraft here. Everything's wonderful. We're all just wonderful.
They don't know what's taking place. They don't know the war that's against them.
When you're a church that follows the spirit, when you're a church that addresses things governmentally,
or like we address witchcraft in a region, just witchcraft in a region.
I mean, that's pretty big statement, right?
And so when that happens, you take some things off and some things were already ticked off that they readjust themselves.
But people are actually being sent. There's people being sent.
We're dealing with another church in the north that we're going to go and minister at together.
I've ministered there once where there's been some attacks.
Down closer to us, there's been some churches that it's like full on witches are showing up.
And by the spirit, the pastors know, I see you, right?
The Lord's highlighting them and they're getting addressed.
Well, things get hot when that happens.
So we got a little activity that goes on here also.
Just so you know.
So we've been talking about the dross.
And the dross for us is important to get that putrid stuff out because that's one of the things.
That's the description of the dross, the stuff that's impure, the stuff that's gross,
the stuff that it brings harm, the stuff that doesn't show the real picture of who you are.
Just like in silver, if you take a look at a piece of silver and you can go online and look this up,
you'll see it just looks like a funky rock.
There's nothing really attractive about it or whatever.
But who it is can't be seen because of the stuff that's hanging on it.
And that gets burned off first.
Then they run it through again to pull out the dross that's in the inside of it.
You're just dropping off chunks of things and melting things.
And then you're pulling out the dross that no one could see up to this point.
Then there's a period of time you'll go through as God does this in whatever areas he's doing this for the church or whatever.
If you look at a piece of silver, okay, so now the dross is out.
It's kind of, I don't know, looks kind of not shiny or it's just kind of still looks like a rock.
A silver rock, but it looks like until it's buffed.
And God will take you through a buffing time.
Then we're first ready.
God will use you at all different levels in all different areas.
But overall then we become first ready to shine and to also to see the reflection of Christ out of because you've been buffed up.
So now there's going to be such an influence when people come near you.
God will use you in a way where you're standing there and they see their reflection.
When they're looking at that silver they see themselves.
They see themselves and salvation can come out of that. Conviction can come out of that.
They might get mad and leave you.
Something comes out of it because they saw themself.
Because when we're under the power of sin we can't see ourselves.
We know something's jacked but we don't know what it is.
We're just like we're just a mess.
But what is it really until the Holy Spirit shows you and you see yourself?
The same way in the temple when you go through the temple you'd come through the gates of praise.
And as you're walking through there's a place where you would look at yourself.
You'd wash your face and take a good look at yourself.
That's giving an estimate of yourself.
That's giving something where you're seeing that reflection.
And God's wanting us to see that.
Here's what I'm seeing.
It's happening all over the place but people don't want to look.
They don't want to look because we have been trained.
Seeker-sensitive, user-friendly means you stay to yourself.
Everyone's smiling.
You carry your Bible a certain way. Praise God.
We just have a wonderful life.
And you fight all the way home with your family.
And there's big accusations at home that no one can know about.
You keep everything concealed so nothing can be healed.
That's what the practice has been.
And I have found that deliverance comes when I talk about how God pulled some of the dross out of me.
Like if I'm going to share my testimony.
It's more powerful to me to share how I pulled the dross out.
Then I have found it to be like in 1981 I gave my heart to Christ.
And God changed my life forever.
And those are wonderful things.
Those are like, yeah, testify.
But when I start talking about the dross,
it gives other people permission to see themselves.
Right? They're looking at my life and where it's been buffed.
I still need some buffing out.
I still need some fire.
I still need that.
But the areas that is buffed, they see themselves and suddenly it's like,
wait a minute, I need God.
I need God.
So it's important that we know that this is not a thing that is a bad thing.
You know, like, oh, now we're going to have to go through something again.
You're going to go through fire either way.
It's either the fire hell that's already present here on the earth.
This is hell on earth.
Right?
Then when a person goes to hell, that's a whole other level of hell.
I'm just saying.
And you can bring heaven down to earth,
but it's nothing like heaven and heaven.
Right?
We're pulling on it, though, to get this to cross over.
So you have hell on earth and you have heaven on earth.
And so when you get born again, the kingdom of God is right at hand.
We just repent.
It's like right there.
We grab ahold of it, right?
And so the kingdom sets up inside of us and rules,
and he rules with fire, with wind.
He rules by the washing of the water of his word.
He cleanses us all kinds of different ways,
but the fire is a pure fire.
That's the thing that draws out, the draws.
So people go, I don't want to get real,
because if I get real and I see myself,
then if I talk about it, it's just like,
then where's the positivity in church?
Where's, why do we always have to be so dark, one lady said?
We're not being dark.
We're actually talking about what's real.
That's not dark.
And if it was dark when it happened, yeah.
But we're talking about, here's what happened.
How do I get free of that?
And we're getting permission to just be real.
Now what we're finding as I travel and as I talk to other ministers
is when they go to try to minister in a church that doesn't know how to be real,
you can't get anywhere.
The word just goes and they're like, yes, we all know that.
Yes. Yes, amen. Praise God.
And everyone does their little plastic thing that they do.
But there's some churches, like Bruce Fanata was sharing about
one of the churches he had gone to where somebody just started confessing stuff.
I'm not talking about you have to hang all your sin out there,
but they were like, I need deliverance from this.
And this is what's real, right?
This is, you know, it's almost like saying the dross is coming out.
I don't know what to do. You know, they've been under fire.
There's something pulling there to get that out.
And the whole church comfortable enough to gather around go, OK,
yeah, that just happened to me last week.
So let's, you know, there's a comfortability.
We're going to have to have that for revival.
This house is not going to see a pretty revival because a pretty revival is not a real revival.
Because dead stuff stinks.
And the resurrection power comes on it and makes it all things new.
You got to start out with some smell first.
You got to start out with Lazarus and the tomb first.
You got, there's going to be some stinky stuff.
And then what happens also I want to kind of warn you about is that
when you're helping another person and the fire of God is on them
and you're helping them through the draw time, you're coming alongside of them.
The fire that's on you keeps burning and the fire that's on them
can add to the fire that's on you and vice versa.
It gets really hot.
Suddenly you're like, I was fine until I started helping this person.
Yeah, well, apparently the fire that it's going to take for them to be purified
is also you ministering and it's also God increasing that fire in your life.
It's going to purify you all over again.
And this is why people back out of ministry because it gets hot up in here.
You know, we have a sauna. It's a infrared sauna and I put it on 140.
You couldn't do this in the past.
It's probably nothing like Pastor Igor does with the saunas.
That's probably even higher, 200 or something crazy.
But this is infrared and so I started out like 100.
It was just like, oh, I got a sin. It's already been 10 minutes.
You know, I know it's like the fiery furnace is a whole lot hotter than that.
But I just, I had to build into the heat.
He is building our body into the heat.
So we run hot all the time.
We run hot all the time.
Now there is a place for the water and the word, right?
And they'll take a piece of silver and it's gone through stuff
and now it's starting to harden and then they'll, shh, as it's...
and they'll put it in the water of the word.
Let me help you out. We're going to reform this.
And then many times you go back into the fire.
All through the 90s, this has been forgotten for most places.
And now it's like, God's doing something new.
The fire has been here since Pentecost.
But it's new. There's a whole new move of the spirit.
No, repentance has been here from the beginning of salvation.
They tried to repent in the Old Testament.
They just had to do it a different way and they were building fires.
And then it became very spiritual when the Holy Spirit showed up.
And he shall baptize us with the Holy Spirit and with fire.
And our flesh right away goes, that's right, I got the fire.
God, when I come into a house, I just wave my hand.
People are falling down. I need that fire, you know.
It's like, no, the fire is a purifier first.
It's not going to do anything outward until it's done something inward.
And I think it's wild how they saw it on their heads.
Right over our little thinker here, our little gray mass.
They saw the flames.
He purifies us in our thoughts.
And it's a wrestling match in our thoughts.
And sometimes it's actually easier to go through,
I don't know, take a class on deliverance and be feeling like you're just casting this and casting that.
Because it can be an easier in the mind.
It can be an easier thing where we think we're having a big effect.
We're just going around speaking to demons and things like that.
But God's like, stop. This is where the fire belongs first.
Right? You can't even minister that out truly.
Because that's the working of miracles, by the way.
Deliverance is the working of miracles.
So yes, we should stand for what's right.
Yes, we should confess things. Yes, we should do that.
But the continual thing is like, light me up, God.
On a burn on your altar, I just sacrificed my life for you.
Burn out whatever doesn't belong.
Draw out the draws. I want to shine for you.
I want that to happen.
By the time you've gone past the draws and you've been buffed,
you forget that you're silver.
Because all the pride and all this stuff just comes out
and people will say, wow, I just felt the power of God.
And you're like, huh? I'm saying, Jesus was really in the house.
Yeah, he was. How'd that happen?
It doesn't come to, it was me. I was there.
I had the fire of God.
That's a worldly kind of way of looking at the fire.
The fire is a refining agent first.
So I'm bringing this up because he's taking us through this.
And it isn't God being mean, which one person had asked me,
well, why does God do this? I'm just like, he enjoys this.
He enjoys when we suffer.
We will suffer more staying impure
and having the demonic realm come against us
than if we suffer some and purify up
and have some more oomph to minister out.
So he's doing it out of his grace.
He's like, let me grace you with some fire.
Oh, like, you need to go through the fire first.
Come on, let's do this.
He's doing that out of love.
And when I figured that out, that's when I accepted it.
Otherwise, we end up spending more time fighting the fire.
We're fighting the fire.
We're like, God's trying to draw us into something.
We have a big argument in our head, our flesh,
and I'm still out of pressure,
and I got to take care of this,
and a lot of distractions start coming in.
Rather than just lay down on the altar.
Just lay down.
What are you going to do there?
You know, just lay down and let it happen.
Amen?
And he'll show you things as you go through that.
Now Psalm 6610 says,
For you, O God, have tested us.
You have tried us as silver is tried.
Remember when I shared about going across the lake?
I have a series on that.
It was after I came out having cancer.
And we're going across the lake
and all the preparation it takes to get across the lake.
The story, you know, where the winds picked up
and Jesus had to calm the storm
and he turns to the disciples.
Instead of babysitting them, he said,
Why are you so afraid?
He dealt with their fear and everything.
They had all this happen.
Why? Because he knew they were headed toward the legions of demons.
He knew where they were going.
He knew what was on the other side of that lake.
There was a higher power that was needed.
There was a higher demonstration that was needed.
The purifying thing was going through the storm.
Let's get the fear out of you.
Why are you so afraid?
You don't need to be up doing this, you know?
That kind of thing.
It didn't say he hugged them and rocked them.
I'm so sorry, you're scared right now.
I'm here for you.
He's like, why are you so afraid?
Because that's something that is dross within us.
That's something that's unbelieved.
That's something of the world.
And so as we're crossing over that many times,
this stuff, you're going through something
to get rid of something at the same time
you're going through something.
So use those opportunities of the thing that stinks.
I'm not saying God caused sickness
or your dishwasher to break down
or any of that kind of stuff.
The stuff that happens, yeah, take authority over it, whatever.
But constantly when you're doing that,
being like, I need the fire to burn out of me.
Any attitudes I have because I am going through this
and my attitude stinks.
How can I go through this and still be full of joy?
How can I go through this and still quote the word?
How can I go through?
Everything seems to shut down when it starts to get hard.
Good warfare is when it ramps up.
That's how you know there's no dross blocking.
Suddenly, instead of you going down and being less joyful
or in unbelief and all that, your faith comes up.
Your faith comes up when you go through this world.
We're just pilgrims walking through here.
So we're going to see stuff.
That ain't pretty.
We're going to see some stuff.
But if we let that hit us with fear
or let that do those different things,
then we know there's something in us that needs to come out.
So a lot of times I'll say, Lord, forgive me for having that
or whatever it is, wash that out of me.
Well, wash it out of me.
He does that by his blood and by the word.
So I have to apply the word and the blood.
The blood is his grace.
I mean, that just happens.
The word now I have to get into his word
and be washed by it, which means wherever I am an unbelief
regarding that thing, I have to come over into belief,
which means I have to have a word that I'm trying to believe.
Amen?
I have to find that word, that rena,
and it isn't just like it dawns on you
and you just Jedi it out there
and everything changes or whatever.
It has to become a part of you.
If you've been listening to the podcast,
you know, Beyond Sunday podcast,
they've been talking about predestination
and different things, but they've been talking,
you'll hear them say, in him.
In him, we have life.
In him is the fullness of joy.
Inside of him, it's in him.
We're in him.
We're in the vine.
We're grafted in.
When we're in that, see the word then has to become that.
It can't be a word that's intellectual.
It has to be like, I'm actually tucked inside of that word.
And that word is tucked inside of me.
And what does it say?
The scripture that we always quote,
you shall know the truth
and the truth will make you free.
If you abide in his word
and it abides in you.
That make sense?
So for you, oh God, have tested us.
You have tried us as silver is tried.
But he knows the way that I take
when he has tried me.
Job says 2310.
But he knows the way that I take
when he has tried me.
I shall come out as gold.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm in the fire right now in some areas.
Anybody else?
And you clearly know what the area is?
It's getting hot.
It's getting hot up in here.
Sweat beads are starting to roll.
You know, so verse Peter 1 7 says
compares the testing of faith to gold
that perishes even though it's tested by fire.
We're tested by fire.
And part of that, well, how does it test us?
It draws stuff out of us.
But at the same time, it's testing us
so that we see what it is.
We didn't even know it was there.
Suddenly we're seeing stuff
and then we have to pass the test
of giving that thing up.
We're not in a fight against it.
We're going with the flames.
We're going with it, yeah.
And it gets interesting, doesn't it?
So God is good.
The refiner fire that it talks about
in Malachi 3 3,
he will sit as a refiner
and a purifier of silver.
He will sit as a refiner
and a purifier of silver
and he will purify the sons of Levi
and refine them like gold and silver
that they may bring offerings
in righteousness to the Lord.
So even to give,
you got to be purified to be able to do that, right?
There's a purification.
So guess what?
This just came to me, all right?
So we're going to move into this building.
Everyone's excited.
We're going to get a big building.
It's so great.
And everything.
And then the offering plate gets passed.
We've been talking about it.
We pray about it.
Or even the tithe or whatever.
It's going to test us.
And in that test,
in order for us to pass the test,
we'll get purified.
So if we just stayed in this building,
then we'd only be purified up to a certain point.
When he asks you to go somewhere
you've never gone before
and do the thing
that you've never sacrificed for before,
it will refine you.
Amen?
Amen.
It will refine you.
And so if things all of a sudden seem harder,
I had one person say,
you know, I was planning on giving this,
a building fawn or doing the thing.
And it just seems like,
all hell broke loose.
That's the saying, right?
Like hell was there being held back
and suddenly it just broke loose.
No, what's in your heart is in your heart already.
It was in there before.
What's around you that's attacking you
isn't something new.
Like all of a sudden the enemy goes,
send in the troops.
We're going to just break out all hell
around those people.
You know, it's been there the whole time.
And so it's almost like,
thank you for letting me be aware
of the stupidity that I'm walking through.
And what kind of thinking is in my heart?
Oh my goodness, thank you for revealing that.
And so as it gets revealed,
the testing of it which refines you
is that you go on anyway.
You do the next right hard thing anyway.
Amen?
Yes.
Which is called obedience.
The biggest refiner is obedience.
I have to say, and I'll be talking about this
at a different prayer time.
I have to say that,
but I'll mention this this morning.
When I had someone talking to me
about the different gifts of the Spirit,
which I love and I covet and I want them all
and I want it to all operate.
And not for my sake,
not so I can feel like a Jedi,
so that we actually get something done.
You know, I don't want to live this life
and have wasted half of it.
When we could be more productive,
let's get the Spirit moving here
and let him free to do whatever he wants.
Well, in that, I had a person say,
God gives me a word almost every day.
Our vision is almost every day
and I have seen angels.
Okay, cool.
Where's your obedience level?
Because if I had to choose
which one is going to produce more,
it's going to be the obedience level.
That's what has to be checked.
How obedient is our heart?
Because I've had so many people,
I've had people come up,
I just have a word for you
and it's so off the wall,
it's not even funny.
They're not tithers,
they're not this, they're not that.
I can name all kinds of other things.
So the obedience level is really low
but they're being used in the gifts so high.
There's a problem with that
because he puts a high priority on obedience
and obedience comes through the fire.
The gifts of the Spirit
are the frosting on the cake.
You got to have a cake first.
No cake and then you got this,
this just gets weird.
It's weird frosting,
like you're going to get high off of that
because you're just eating sugar.
That's what you're doing.
I'm telling you,
you have to have some umph underneath it
and that is just the glaze,
that's just the woo,
that just topped it off.
That brought it home.
But if there was no gifts of the Spirit,
we would have to live an obedient Christian life.
Everything of it that way?
The obedient are blessed.
Blessed means to be empowered to prosper,
to have success down the road.
The obedient are blessed.
Amen?
Let's stand.
I'm going to have the band come.
So I started out by saying
there's some funky things.
There's been witchcraft things and all that.
And I don't want to rehearse all that.
But I will tell you this.
It's been to a level.
We poked the bear in the north.
Let's just say it that way.
They were like...
And now stuff has been showing up.
They had four days out of a five-day school week.
Each day in the Red Lake School,
somebody was having a seizure.
Not related.
Just somebody's all of a sudden foam coming out.
They're like, hmm, interesting, right?
We have a person in the ministry
that was going to go into the house.
She had like a casserole dish or whatever.
No one else was there.
There were no steps.
There's no reason to trip.
She never felt any trip.
But right between her shoulder blades,
she felt two hands to shove her.
And she went flying and hit the wall.
Sled down and turned around and was dizzy.
Nobody there.
I want to know that I'm in a spot of not...
I'm not perfect, but I want to know that God
show me the fire in my life first
before I go to try to mess with that.
So we can bring fire to that,
but we better have had the fire on us first.
The same way it's better to be obedient
than it is to be operating on all the gifts
and all this stuff.
These God's showing you the heaven leads.
And there's, okay, for what avail
unless there is no obedience?
If there's no obedience, why?
Why would he show you all that?
You ever think of it that way?
Well, you did now because I just said it.
Just went through if it was the first time.
Thank you for watching.